Budget Build Gone Bad - This Mopar 273 Scrap Pile Save For My 1966 Plymouth Barracuda Is Going Back

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Guys… I’m familiar with sleeving cylinders. If the machine shop doesn’t want a zillion dollars to do it, that’s what we will do. Also, this is true year round, but it’s especially important today - my channel exists in an alternate universe where politics don’t exist. Any comments that blur the line between these two universes *WILL* be deleted. I appreciate you, but I don’t want to know how you vote. This is my sand box, don’t poop in it. Thanks.

[@CamelGarage]

Hopefully it won’t have to come to that as far as sleeving the block. And I completely agree with the second part of this comment! We’re here for mopar/automotive/boat engine/etc! Take care bud

[@brianvanbuskirk9483]

Then I just won't bring up sleeving. Minds think alike. Thanks for doing the things. You are far more entertaining than the rest of the goings on today.

[@SchoolforHackers]

Appreciating this.

[@b.s.adventures9421]

I had a hot 283 Chevy in the 90s. It dropped a valve at 7200 rpm. Messed up #8 pretty bad. Block was already .060 over with trw foraged pistons. Machine shop sleeved #8 and it was back up n going. Fun little motor. Surprised a lot of guys on the street with that set up.

[@dadalebreton184]

It looks so easy on KZbin with dry ice and a sledge hammer. The hick is how the hell do you take the sleeve out? Grinder? Chizel ? Fry pan flipper ?😂

[@r1lark]

"my channel exists in an alternate universe where politics don’t exist" --- Another reason I love this channel!!!!!! And also the fact that your universe not only includes Mopars, but also Studebakers! 😞

[@AndrewMiller-vb9sx]

It’s so much more rewarding putting junk together, when we give in go to the machine shop it’s like tapping out lol

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I know 😭 not many other good choices here unfortunately.

[@joshjesch6000]

Just stopped for some semi truck tire replacement and figured "let's go on KZbin while waiting"....we'll worth it now. Thanks Jamie

[@bigwrenchtech]

Oh yes! Hello old friend, the best of garbage cans. So many great memories.

[@d1mennis]

Looks like it's going to be a never ending project! But then again, most of your projects are never ending! LOL

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Exactly! You get me.

[@blahblah4125]

That Barracuda is in good hands. Can't wait untill first burn out!

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Me neither! It’s been so long since the last one in that car…

[@ThisValiantAdventure]

So sorry to hear of your 273 build issues. Between you and Scott’s Speed Shop’s channel, we’ve been getting a lot of good 273 information for our Commado 273/D-Dart “daily” build. Thank you so much.

[@aceadman]

I feel very lucky to have had you pushed my way. The algorithm sometimes takes too long. But it gets there. Loving your stuff… and excited for the future. 😊👍👍

[@bobnuttall9203]

I can understand that. That would be a real score. Years ago, I knew an older guy who used to race a 55 Chevy with a 265 engine. He told me he used to shift it at 10,000 RPMs. Small bore short stroke engine. He used to build a lot of wild sbc engines back in the 60s and 70s

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Yesssss. That’s really the guiding light for this project. I know those little inch Chevys can do it… so why can’t this thing? There are probably good reasons why but I choose to ignore those for now.

[@brianl6798]

Get the block sleeved... just one barrel...and wallah! Magically usable again!

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

See pinned comment. Lol.

[@Ray-tf2fl]

I got a feeling this is gonna be a WICKED BUILD 👍🏻🏁🤘🏻🎶👍🏻✌🏻

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I hope so!

[@grantlee2975]

Jamie send it to the machine shop and put a sleeve in that bore and machine out to 30 thou, my 318 has 3 in it due to the rust in the bores , it runs fine. And remember don't buy a donor car from the Australian outback that was in a flood 30 years ago. Don't waste a 273 , over here they sell for good money.

[@klapaucius77]

It will be cool to see what the 273 will do. My brother had one long ago and unfortunately, it went to a scrap yard. The engine was freshly built before he got it and the car it was in had an incident with a busted fuel line and a spark. The engine looked fine, but he never got it into his Dart.

[@iamnoone.]

JAMIE Got 2-273 one fresh just broke in and one waiting for a rebuild. I'm trying to find a 4 barrel intake for it, and of course, it's a 66 with the old bolt angle. Thought of putting a newer 273 heads, and then it is easy to find an intake. But around here, it's just as hard to find heads as it is for an intake

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I have an intake but it’s spoken for… none of that 273 stuff is easy to find anywhere.

[@craigerickson6308]

Dang, that may need sleeved 😮

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Just don’t know that the ends justify the cost on this one. We’ll see.

[@poloquiles8626]

Could you bore just that cylinder out and sleeve it back to size?

[@dirtyoldfarmhand3]

Awesome. Thanks for the video.

[@rockystanaitis2908]

DUDE 60 over! I’ve always wanted to do that! You got this 🎉

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Hell yeah!

[@DPWheeler67]

It wouldn't be Dead Dodge Garage if anything went smoothly, ever LOL

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Exactly 😅

[@PlymouthOnPlywood]

I never realized you could mix and match front clips like that until I saw your car. The possibilities fascinate me. I like your table too, that looks like a good table and I’m kinda into tables.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

It's a damn fine table! It's all wired and steely and stuff. You know, for all the fabrication I hardly ever do

[@anthonyshelton6786]

been curious how the 273 was coming along thanks for reminding me to look through my cylinder heads to see if I have a good pair and thanks for the tip on 920 casting heads

[@rockystanaitis2908]

Watching for the second time as always 🎉

[@butcher390]

"Spicey 273 " ...... nice 🙏

[@fastlanegaming2000]

How am I always here within 20 min love the content keep it up

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I don’t know, but I appreciate it!!

[@JohnEvans-ct6mz]

I just recently watched your videos from earlier in the year about that Studebaker you fixed. I can now see what attracted you to that car so much. The styling of that car is very similar to the ‘66 Barracuda. The split grille, the profile, lots of similarities. I’m sure someone has pointed this out already, but I don’t read comments.😂

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I can't remember anyone bringing it up, but I can tell you that seeing the two next to each other after the white paint job on the Barracuda was very interesting! Not the same, but similar in spirit.

[@39KHall]

You had me at D-Dart....

[@dartdude4084]

Looking forward to the build. My 273 has the .030 egge and an LD4B and it's still pretty meh. Stock manifolds 2" exhaust dual. 8.75 3:23 65 Dart

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Huh. I wonder what’s wrong with it. I’ve never met a stock 2 barrel 273 that wasn’t at least mildly entertaining.

[@dartdude4084]

Barely breaks tires loose around a corner in 1st. Car weighs 3250. Maybe it's the Edel 600

[@Coronetguy]

Dang, ain’t gonna lie! I thought there might be a chance of a # 920 head becoming available!! Now we need 3……..😅

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Yeahhhh… 😅

[@Bob-Whiting]

You Should/Might be able to get that sleeved for somewhere in the $200 ballpark (per cylinder, I meant) Perhaps it's not garbage?

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I have two more blocks that cost way less than that. So I don’t know that it’s worth the sleeve job.

[@Bob-Whiting]

@@DeadDodgeGarage Well, it was WAY less, but with $5/gal gasoline and $3 tomatoes it's better to speak with yer guy. I gotta finish practicing my drums so I can pick my son up from college&work. "I got crank, no start, fuel, no-spark, waitin' on my truck-part blues" See ya manana Jamie! (or whenevs, you know)

[@pcbullets8726]

Good luck with that motor, hopefully you can get it fixed cheap enough. Or you use it as an anchor for your boat.....

[@unclebrentsshed4253]

If you go with another block and new pistons you might as well throw that 273 together , use up all your used parts and old stock gaskets and send it 👌🏽 it’ll still run fine . Might have a little blowby but it’ll be fun 👌🏽 I’ll be doing the same on my channel in the future with a 318

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I like the way you think…

[@ricksaint2000]

Thank you Jamie

[@LSSindustries]

Worst case scenario you've got a nice new anchor for the boat

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

That’s right 😅

[@MoparJimmy]

I forgot about this car, but I still like it.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Me tooooooo!

[@Rallykylen]

Well If there is anyone that can get this lovely offended engine put back together its you 😂👍🏻

[@allenm00]

World headquarters. Lol. Are you the CEO too? 😂😂😂

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

CEO, managing director, social media manager, head of production, HR manager, shop foreman, complaint department, and the list goes on… I’ve been calling my shop that for three years, and no one has ever commented on it before 🤣

[@allenm00]

@DeadDodgeGarage but has anyone called you the mechanic?

[@andrewkirtley6565]

Wife agrees?😅😅

[@peterparsons7141]

I really like the idea of the 273 in the late 60’s A body sized car. I always thought that was a perfect setup for around town coupe. Just a nice sporty car, perfect sized for a small V8. Always bugged me that Plymouth didn’t stick with those cars because today a similar sized car with a v8 is a luxury coupe and big money. Modern premium brands have a coupe with a V8 , and Plymouth was doing it years ago and anybody who had one loved them. Today a Lexus GS 350f is a good comparison .

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I completely agree! It’s a great one.

[@trojan440]

Nothing else you have the windage tray bolts.😊

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

And a 90 degree filter adapter, spare main caps, a cam core, and factory A body V8 mounts!

[@VolcanoPudding]

Every time you say "Barracuda," I hear "You gonna burn, burn, burn, burn, burn to the wick Ooh, barracuda, oh yeah," in my head. Well that and the voices telling me to do bad things.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I apologize profusely. Haha. I did reference that song at the end of the '68 Barracuda dash video. You may well have caught that.

[@dantupper1784]

It's frustrating- old blocks & heads are kinda like Schrodinger's Cat- it's alive until that 1 messed up cylinder...dangit! Comic relief @ 7:30- crusty cylinder head shows itself out...

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I’m glad someone noticed that 😅 and really glad it missed my foot

[@dirttdude]

i watch junkerup, he kind of specializes in fixing major rust problems, and there are a lot of people that specialize in interiors and drivetrains... if you had to specialize, what would you gravitate towards? Do you think a bridgeport would change your world?

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Well, I’d have to learn how to use it, but I’m sure it would. Engines and electrical are my thing.

[@redsgarage6472]

yeah, those pits make me think of a Grand Canyon. And water created that as well.

[@Littlehotrodshop]

I might have some parts to go towards a nice roller cam conversion for that

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Oooohhhh?! Because I want to do that…

[@bobnuttall9203]

The Chevy 265 had a 3" stroke and the Mopar 273 had a 3.31" stroke. That's almost a 5/16" difference. That doesn't sound like a lot, but in the grand scheme of things, it may be. I'm not an authority on that. I can say that back in the 80s I had a 70 Chevy 350 4 bolt main block in which I installed a stock cast crank and rotating assembly from a 68 350. I may have used better rod bolts but I can't remember. I used to shift that engine at 7,500 RPMs when I raced it. I'm not familiar with your 273's rods but who knows

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I would love to find a “destroker” crank as was used to build the 305 T/A racing engine. With a stroke of 2.96”, it would be right in that neighborhood. I have a nice set of new aftermarket rods, but they are still standard I-beams.

[@codyhollinger6531]

Oh man I really want to see Magnum heads on the 273. But i really want the tunnel ram also.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Yeah, I'd be shooting myself in the foot there. Unless I have Dan re-drill the intake holes, which he offered to do... The real reason I don't want to go to the Magnums for this build is I want to retain the shaft rockers. My goal is high RPM, and the shaft setup is just about the best you can get for that.

[@lessharratt8719]

My wife was walking by and saw those horrible heads. She looked at me and said " now that's dedication". I must agree.,

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Well… I’m nothing if not dedicated to this strange endeavor. Haha.

[@jamesretired5979]

Gen one HEMI!

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I have one!! It’s garbage too 🤣

[@RetroAnachronist]

Ya gotta do a 4 link conversion in one of these. I’m doing that in my 61 Comet. Parallel 4 link. 😊

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

You go right ahead 😁

[@geoffdeller7747]

I know it wouldn't be cheap but what about a sleave?

[@Bob-Whiting]

Should not be Super expensive.

[@robertspence831]

Yep, sleeve it don't leave it.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

We’ll see what the machine shop has to say about it.

[@bobnuttall9203]

I like the sound of that. Does the 273 have a shorter stroke than the 318?

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Same stroke. The only shorter stroke LA crank I’m familiar with was used in certain types of class racing in the 340 - and I’d love to get my hands on one.

[@T_Burd_75]

If the other cylinders hone out okay, could you just have one cylinder re-sleeved? What does a machine shop charge for that?

[@Bob-Whiting]

Yes! It varies by state and by shop, but you still should be able to get one done in this insane economy for like $140 to $200. (SHOULD, I Said. lol)

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I don’t know yet. My concern is that it’s a goofy size. Don’t know how readily available a suitable sleeve is. But I will find out soon.

[@idaholineman5788]

Ah well hopefully the machine shop has good news

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

We’ll see…

[@samuelgoodman2825]

Good news!My 273 is .30 and in a running car,so those domes won't go to waste,hint hint

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

👀👀 you probably don’t want them, but I’ll sell them to you!

[@samuelgoodman2825]

@DeadDodgeGarage I'll take your word for it lol

[@paulary5613]

Heh my local Bumper to Bumper auto parts store has lisle tools and stones on the shelf😂

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

The large style for the 15000 hone? Or the tiny crappy type like everyone else has

[@paulary5613]

A full wall of lisle tools and stones they have the big ones too.

[@timbarry5080]

BTW, I come here to get away from politics. I support your desire to keep the greasy sand box free of actual filth.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Perfect! Thank you kindly.

[@ScottOnDrums]

Can you sleeve the pitted cylinder?

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Of course - if it is cost effective.

[@timmcooper294]

Checked on my friends dart wagon parts car, and yes, it's a '66, and the 273 has the normal intake bolt pattern, and the engine's yours if you want it. (It's the right price).

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Is it in the pacific northwest?! Because if it's not... that's inconvenient. If it is, [e-mail]

[@cowthedestroyer]

I would have sent it. It probably would have sealed due to oil but it would prob burn some. Not as much that would have leaked out of the valve covers but its crazy what will actually work.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I know there is quite a bit I can get away with. That’s… *quite* a bit.

[@daltonsparks1293]

What about getting that one cylinder bored out and sleeved? Also thank you for these unique builds, so cool

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Money… but it could happen. Thanks!

[@nickbruni8041]

👌🏼✔️⛽️

[@paulary5613]

7:34 that’s almost as bad as the cylinders in the numbers matching 283 in my barn find 65 c10 pickup I bought 6 years back, fyi it still has yet to be put back on the road due to people wanting $1,000 for a worn out smog 305 that runs in my area of Kansas

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Ughhhhh…

[@brucenichols540]

Long time friends were 'heavily' into Dirt Track and MoPar. They had small blocks turning ...silly... RPMs for extended periods of time and never had failures related to the RPM. I'm curious as to what RPM you think a 273 will survive reliably?

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I want to see the awesome side of 7000. I know it’s possible.

[@KrisGreenhillsGarage]

(sees bore, hears Jamie talk about it being ruined, hones it for 30 seconds, throws rings on it, sends it again) Tis the KGG way. 🙂

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

If I couldn’t see those pits from space, we’d already be there!

[@Mr.mopar71]

Have #7 sleeved

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

If it is cost effective, I might.

[@Mr.mopar71]

​@DeadDodgeGarage if it's just the one, yes.

[@rockystanaitis2908]

I’ve always wanted to buy a big used jacuzzi and fill it with #2 diesel and engines.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Everyone around here should be thankful I hadn’t thought of that 😅

[@trojmn]

I've had my *running* 67 barracuda 273 4bl (30 over!!) for almost 15yrs. For at least 13 of those years, i have had a 40kmile 3gn hemi to swap in... hmmm I HAS AN IDEA!! kidding (sort of)

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Are you in the northwest? 😁 alright but that swap is going to cost a lot more than a 273. Haha.

[@timbarry5080]

"Cuz I like to party" .... lol.. shake and bake

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

You shake it, and then, you bake it!

[@cbobmonster]

At least you have a crap ton of spare parts lol and I’m curious can you put new sleeves in that 273 just curious

[@cbobmonster]

Never mind lol I just read your comment about sleeves disregard great video lol

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

We’ll see what the machine shop says about that. But yeah, I’ve got more. Haha.

[@dadalebreton184]

As seen on TV with Dr.Art and Tony with epoxy metal mix old school fix that still running after few hours on a small engine. Just saying, if it cost a Zillion $ and you need to sell your Boat and BBQ to fix it.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Oh trust me, I’ve had the thought. Haha.

[@countswing284]

The 273 is a thin wall block, .060 overbore is sketchy. If you want to use the junk block put a sleeve in it. As you already know a bigger block would save you time and money, of course that would ruin the science project. Good luck on the build! Cheers!😎👍🏎🏁🏁

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

We’ll see just how thin the walls are. If it’ll take .060, it’ll go .060. If it’s relatively affordable to sleeve it, we’ll do that. Otherwise it goes back in the scrap pile and I start with one of the others. Thanks!

[@jittychitty]

hypereutectic pistons are nice.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Are they up for 7500 RPM blasts?! Let’s find out!

[@Anthony-nw5zv]

Politics 🤣 no I'm not voting for the scrap 273 out in the yard 😊 just following you to get a laugh and informed.

[@StephenProcter-bt3su]

How about a resleeve? We used to do it a lot in the 60s/70s.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I really regret not saying the word "sleeve" in this video. I put up a pinned comment attempting to rectify that. I guess not everyone is seeing it. Oh well.

[@StephenProcter-bt3su]

Sorry, I saw your comment after I posted. My apologies.

[@Tumbleweed_Tx]

ultimate smallblock? Did you find a TA casting with a 305 destroker kit? :)

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

No destroking kit yet… I got the beefy over the counter successor to the T/A block, and a set of heads to match. 😁

[@Roosters_Restos]

Have I got a deal for you young man. Your phone will be ringing😂

[@trojan440]

Oh,oh. Rooster has a deal. Oh boy.😂

[@chriscordray8572]

I have a long block poly 318 just sitting.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Me too

[@kellyjones5619]

I think I’m gonna mimic DALES DEMON only I have a rebuilt 904

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Not fair. Haha. I have a race built 904 here too... I'm not planning to use it for any of my drag cars, but dang it, I have it.

[@boilerroomed3682]

F, why wasn't the kayak or an old tarp over the other 273 in the yard? Oh well, too late now! Maybe go for the .60 over but IDK. I do like short stroke small blocks for all the extra REVS though! The nose up GASSER look of the 'Cuda is also cool but understanding there's no WEIGHT in there right now...

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

That’s exactly the plan! And worry not, because those slant bars will be cranked sky high once the drivetrain is back in. That’s the stance I’m going for. That block was sitting uncovered next to someone’s barn for like decades. It was already scrap and outside for several months when I brought it home. The damage was already done, so I didn’t bother.

[@OldIron2188]

those goofy fake wire wheels must never leave

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

A young guy in Montana really wants them. They’re interesting but certainly not my favorite, and 14”…

[@chriscordray8572]

Have the block sleeved

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I might

[@knote4958]

You'll be on your way to a 318 by the time you bore out those pits

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

True

[@bobnuttall9203]

You may have mentioned this in a prior video, but what kind of RPMs do you think your 273 will see?

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I’d like to see the fun side of 7,000 RPM with this build.

[@AllensAutomotiveReparations]

Jamie maybe you have forgotten this but there is an old quote ..... it goes something like there is no replacement for displacement ........ your obsession with Chrysler's smallest cubic inch motors IE I think I'll turbo a slant six but wait lets make it the 170 cube engine for fun (shaking my head and thinking "why") next up I want to drag race a 1st Gen Barracuda with a high revving small block (OK one thinks) but wait I also want to tunnel ram it with multiple carbs (ok that's cool) but wait I want to use the 273 because they are harder to get parts for and I want to use stock heads and pistons if possible (again the head shake) from out here in keyboard land it appears you want to spend a lot of time and some money to achieve mediocre to dismal results but I suppose there is some reasoning in the " why do what everyone else is or has done when you can do what everyone says doesn't work just to be different and see if they really tried or are talking out their a$$" it can be fun to be the guy who doesn't follow and does what they want for no other reason than because you can. Good luck and thanks for keeping us engaged and wondering WTF.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

You tell me if the results are dismal. I don’t think they will be. The entire point is to do more with less. It’s the essence of hot rodding - which is what I’m trying to capture here. This pursuit of greatness where there shouldn’t be any is just about my *only* interest when it comes to “go fast” stuff. And a lot of people get that. The 170 is actually a great choice for boost. It’s the exact same bore as a 225 with a shorter stroke - IE, lower piston speed at high RPM than the 225. It is an over square engine, just like a muscular V8, and that is the better recipe for power production. I think the 273 *could* actually be a great choice for RPM. Tiny bore = lower frictional losses. I think the trick is sizing everything to the tiny bore. If you’re at all familiar with Studebaker’s high performance R-series engines, you know where this could go. Limitations are an incredible driver of creativity. The same is especially true in the art world, and in music production. You work with what you have, and come up with creative solutions. I don’t need to replicate any other build. If I do that, I will learn nothing but how to copy someone else’s work. I want to do what I want to do. I want to be myself. Yeah, you get it.

[@AllensAutomotiveReparations]

@@DeadDodgeGarage I do get it people have refused to give up on the 289 Ford and build them for fun hi revving applications and putting Turbos and building 200-300 cubic inch straight sixes has a huge following. I'm more mild daily driver than wild lets see what it'll do before it breaks. Hence my thinking a mild 318 will be equal to what the slant can produce and be more reliable and a mildly over built 360 will produce more usable reliable power than your 273 idea. I get your ideas are more fun and less main stream though. I do look forward to seeing what you can accomplish and it appears you are getting lots of comments and interest so I'm sure that too is a positive.

[@hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542]

Did you secure a 331 Firepower Hemi?

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Bigger

[@Anthony-nw5zv]

Can you sleeve it? Or, wouldn't you want to sleeve it? 😏 Sleeve Sleeve Sleeve Sleeveless 😅

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Moneyyyy… we’ll see what they say

[@hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542]

HAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA!!! AND THERE SITS ONE BIG 440!!!

[@raystevens1458]

I keep seeing and hearing a '66 Barracuda and I'm not seeing one. I have owned 2 '66 Barracuda's, "64 Barracuda, '63, '65 & '66 Valiant's. What I see on the lift looks like an Austraillian cross breed, the grill is similar to a '66 Dart, the body lines really don't look right, and where is that big rear glass window ?

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

You can’t see the window because the car is on the lift. I’m sorry I forgot to say “this is my 1966 Barracuda with a 1966 Dart nose” like I do in most other videos, because I learned that people come into this not having seen any of the videos I’ve been making about it for years and get confused.

[@timmcooper294]

I have a friend that has a parts car Dart station wagon with an original 273 that's never been molested, and it's getting scrapped. I need to check whet year it is, I think 1966.... I'm running up to Washington from NorCal in December, If it's the right one, I'll throw it on the trailer and it'd be free.... What's the casting # you need??

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Oh, I saw your other comment first. That's what I need. I responded to the other one with my email. Please and thank you!

[@timmcooper294]

@@DeadDodgeGarage Hey, Jamie, didn't see the other reply, but I'll put your name on it and yard it out. I'm in NorCal but have a lot of old friends in Washington state (Longview, Raymond, and Kent) that I visit regularly, half the time pulling a trailer, so It's no big deal to haul it up there. I'm huge fan of high winding small block v8's, and everything I ever owned has three pedals, LOVE this project !!

[@xozindustries7451]

Can you put the 273 crank into a 360 block?

[@mikusmaximus7507]

You can with bearing spacers. Callies used to sell.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

That would be interesting. I have read about the bearing spacers as mentioned by MikusMaximus but I've never seen them in use. Here's the thing, though - if you want a 360 with the stroke of a 273, what you actually want is a 340, as the 273/318/340 cranks are all the same (barring the forged/cast difference of course.) The stock 340 bore is the same size as a .040 over 360. And if finding a 340 block is challenging, well... find a really good 318 block to massively overbore. It's been done before. For my own education if nothing else, I have an interest in working with the small bore size. Working within limitations is where I find my fun.

[@rockystanaitis2908]

At 60 over what are the end cubes or cc’s?

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

A .060 overbore brings it to 282.4 CI. Not a substantial difference.

[@stannelson2582]

When all of this is done can you do a comparison build to a 360 and do all the same work. You know turtle vs hair test. Jamie it’s a joke relax. You will have fun and so will we following along.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Oh hell yeah! If this thing made 320 horsepower, that would be a *huge* victory.

[@racer6583]

Yeah what are your plans for the w block that Tom said you are to receive????????? It does smell that those sweet head are junk but here's idea take your nice original 273 do the .030 treatment take those forged pistons and soak em in evapo rust, then find a small flat tip screw driver that is slightly rounded at the tip then lightly pry the rings I sure you know how, its wither you want to. Of course I just saying what I would do. But it's yours so do it the way you want. And remember anytime you can save some penny's they become dollars in the future!!!!! Eventually.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I know what to do with the rings. The giant pits in one of them is another matter.

[@rexkean]

Bummer

[@michaelnault5905]

More grave digging may be required :⁠-⁠)

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I just got a new shovel 😅

[@MikeRoth-ex1wk]

Why not bore it and then reslieve it, it might cost a little but it could save your project.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Yeap

[@darrellwiley4288]

Put sleeves in it

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Money

[@darrellwiley4288]

@@DeadDodgeGarage How much do you think it would cost to put sleeves in that?

[@bartdaw6681]

Just sleeve #7 cylinder.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

See pinned comment

[@JeffLeblanc-xb7qe]

Why not just put a 340 or 360 block I see you broth got a good score at a swap meet as in free parts hop he can track guy down and find the other heads that were not ther hopefully the guy still has and didn’t scrap them

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I don’t think we’ll be hearing from that guy. I already built a pretty great 360. Now I’m doing something different.

[@Bob-Whiting]

So, ex-pres. Obama and his wife, walk into a machine shop looking for used engine parts, maybe cores even. The machinist listens politely and then asks, "so will you settle for a core?" "Yep" says Obama and his wife. "What's that on your back yer carrying?" says the machinist. "That? that's Michelle!" (for the sake of clarity and the joke itself, an engine core is also know as a "shell". Obama's wife's name is Michelle... or Chelle, for short. Wait for it... wait... DING!) Happy Holidays!

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

That was a lot of work for very little reward 😅

[@Bob-Whiting]

@@DeadDodgeGarage hahaha! It was as close to politics WITHOUT crossing the line as I dared! Love ya like a brother! Well, the brother I never met, yet. Hope to work with you some day. laters!

[@dginia]

After seeing so many engines ruined by rust because they were stored outside, I fail to understand why any engine stored for future use is stored OUTSIDE!

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Because inside is full of other engines…

[@dginia]

@@DeadDodgeGarageI guess that was what I suspected. Bummer!