Budget vs High End Comms : How to set it all up - A tribute to Hoplopfheil

Today we look at budget vs high end comms setups to help remove some of the confusion about the different tiers and how to set it all up.
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The first thing to remember is that it doesn't matter how fancy your radio setup is if you don't know how to use your radio. Spend the time with a cheap inexpensive radio to learn if you even like it, use it, or are interested in HAM and the licenses.
Everything we show here uses an inexpensive Baofeng radio. This is a radio anyone can purchase and is a great radio to learn on and grow out of. Starting with some super high end radio is not needed and is mostly elitist nonsense. Learn and outgrow your radio and pass it on to someone else on your team so you gain knowledge together.
The first setup we look at is just a radio. That's it. Just a radio in a pouch. This system is extremely basic but it's also cheap and effective. You have radio comms...but that may be about it. This setup isn't convenient and also makes using your radio or hearing your radio quite difficult.
We then take things up a level and move into an earpiece and microphone setup. This setup allows you to connect the mic cords into the two-prong connectors on your radio. The earpiece is then placed in your ear and under your hearing protection. Now you have the ability to hear your radio and interact with a pushbutton mic, but our ability to hear is now cut in half. With the radio mic jammed in our ear, any fancy multi-directional headsets are now just wasted.
So we take things up another level and add in a setup from Comm gear supply. Now, this setup is similar to our previous setup but includes various upgrades. The first is that the entire system can use a QD setup that allows you to connect to various radios. We also ditch the ear piece and use a 2 pin connector that can also take an adapter to a 3.5mm. This allows you to connect almost all commercially available active hearing protection headsets. You've not got your multidirectional hearing back with a system that fully integrates the radio and hearing protection in one.
Going up just one more level, we connect the Baofeng into a Push to talk, or PTT for short. The PTT used to connect to the baofang uses a kenwood style connector to the radio and a U94 connector to go into our headset. You can also sub in a PTT that uses 5 pin connectors in the same location if you're looking to connect into military style radios.
Hopefully, by seeing some of the different comms setups available, you have a better understanding of what will work best for you and your needs. And how to put it all together!
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[@agmsmith4079]

I have my general license... I’m telling everyone, programming a baofeng is actually quicker and easier than a lot of the other super expensive radios like Yaesu and Kenwood!!! I usually recommend a baofeng to everyone for their first radio. Like you said, start cheap, outgrow the radio and then move into expensive ones.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Absolutely. Chirp compatibility is basically a must for me now. Some people want an expensive radio...that they don't use. I'd rather seen a baofeng that died from overuse. Great input! -Walsh

[@50shadesofcerakote]

Supposedly theres a bluetooth adapter that connects to your phone and makes it even easier then chirp...

[@code-dredd]

Hey, is there a way to get your ham license _without_ having to doxx yourself in the process with all your personal info publicly accessible in the FTC and ARRL sites?

[@agmsmith4079]

@@code-dredd ...nope

[@code-dredd]

@@agmsmith4079 That's the main issue I have with the whole thing... I want to get a license, but I don't want any of this self-doxxing BS... 😕

[@jaylandroxas1544]

My guy said “repeat”. Screams in Arty and air support.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

lol it's more fun if it looks like I have no idea what I'm doing lol

[@paladin11C40]

That is exactly what I was thinking, I was 11C in my former life.

[@spinner4life2]

0811... was sh*tting bricks when I heard that...

[@JohnDoe-ih2fc]

I love it how everyone ducked for cover in this comment when he said “repeat”.

[@rakkasan-to4vq]

As former arty, saying "repeat" over the radio is one my my biggest pet peeves. I yell at people when they do it.

[@downunderprepparedness]

For a cheap tip, I use the baofang PTT that looks like a CB handheld but it has a headphone out socket and works well with my ear pro.

[@dutch1995]

What are you using for ear pro with the baofeng cb handheld?

[@downunderprepparedness]

@@dutch1995 impact sport and impact pro have audio on sockets.

[@canidsong]

For my setup I made a flowerpot type coax dipole (without radome) that I can just weave into my carrier. I think it's working out very well.

[@huntersmark917]

What?

[@agmsmith4079]

Also... geeking out... DMR radios can connect to android smart phones, and you can run your own ATAK server and ATAK devices over a private DMR repeater network. 😉. Enjoy!

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

OOoOoooO! Shows how far behind I am. I need to learn how to hook all that up. I'm already running ATAK and civTAK. I have a server and group I need to share one day...lol I THINK you can even use plugins to in ATAK to run that as a radio? not sure. I gotta play with it. -Walsh

[@gunsofmasseffect4321]

I love my Boafeng tri band radios, just trying to find away to adapt them to helmet wear and in some cases without a helmet and I think this video gave me what I needed.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Glad I could help you get some comms ideas! -Walsh

[@gunsofmasseffect4321]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo Once again thanks.I will be looking into some of these items this week, time permitted.

[@TempleGuitars]

Don't say "repeat" on a radio in a tactical setting like at 05:22 , when you mean to say "read back" or "say again". Repeat is a completely different command, and usually ends in someone getting shot.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

"mom... the radio fudds are crying about what's on my KZbin video again" saying the wrong thing may have been the joke... it was a bit high brow ill admit

[@ToysRUsKid_Critter]

This channel is like…..Tool Time ….for troopers….

[@pdxmarine1430]

I got a 5 pack of UV5Rs because they're stupid cheap and I figure I can use them to toss to others when I eventually upgrade to something nicer

[@stampydragon2739]

Id recommend getting something on family band to start before going into walkie talkie like the one he used in the video

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

You can use a basic baofeng on FMS or GMR or go into the big boy ham bands A crappy bubble radio is gonna be 15 bucks and the baofeng is like 20..... so buying the neutered one isn't very wise

[@stampydragon2739]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo there are programmable frs compliant radios that can also be programmed to connect it's a legality thing as if you do not have the correct paperwork it's illegal to broadcast on specific frequencies a bit of my background I'm ex navy with communication information systems training meaning im a fully qualified military coms guy I'm just saying for people who may not yet want to pay for licensing and everything it's a legal option and specific bands allow a maximum power output of less than the baofeng will output also I'm not suggesting a crappy bubble radio per say I'm suggesting a programmable one like the ksun M5 or as its called on Ali express ksut pmr446 cos it's pre programed for PMR but can be used on other frequencies if programmed for them

[@agileep]

Lmao spec ops looking on KZbin for guidance for issued equipment was amazing. Lmao😅

[@joemama69448]

Happens more than you would think.

[@TaterGrabbinBass]

Bahahaha, the “Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt” was hilarious. That old video of those LARP’ers is hilarious, and well this is “operator LARPing” in a way, unless shit absolutely hits the fan and then it’d be nice to have a lot of this stuff. Love the vids! Also, a 90 degree 3.5mm headphone Jack would be better and wouldn’t stick out and catch on things.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

haha glad you enjoy and concur on the 90 degree. They actually changed the design after this video was released. It depends on what headset you use though as the sordins are on the bottom...so then the 90 is a tad weird. -Walsh

[@twostroke12v71]

Commenting on the video for the algorithm

[@sink009]

While I and most of the people I larp with have moved on from Baofeng’s, I make sure to keep my Microsoft Surface in my pack along with all programming cables I may need for the exact reason that programming on the fly in the field sucks, especially once you’ve moved on to DMR radio’s and portable repeaters. Lol

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

haha I hear you. Having a radio that can connect to chirp or my laptop for programming is a must. Some of these folks scream for motorola...but then I look at their software and I'm immediately out.

[@johnsmith-fy8jo]

What you said about expensive radios giving away your location just as easily is simpily not true. Companies like Silvus use waveforing capabilities that make the radio hard to detect.

[@nathankimbro4404]

Thanks for the video. Definitely something to think about.

[@michal9314]

just withing first minute of watching this guy i subcribed xd

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

hell yea, thanks man! -Walsh

[@gabrieldominguez3162]

@14:34 I’m wondering what M4 mag pouch and admin pouches you’re using and how are they set up?

[@seanlowry7848]

Have you seen the Motorola attachment for the Razer? It's a built in Motorola radio with a boom Mike that attaches straight to your earpro

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

from the phone??

[@seanlowry7848]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo yes it clips straight to the headset. No wires whatsoever

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

@@seanlowry7848 ahhh the walkie talkie thing? Sorry thought you meant it connected into a phone. That works but it uses FMS/GRMS. You'd likely be fine but it's only a few channels that it would offer you and those would definitely be monitored. People call those "bubble radios" because they come in the little plastic bubble packaging. I recommend an actual radio but if this is what ya got... It's better than nothing!

[@BobBob-il2ku]

Great info! if anyone has the comms gear supply stuff please comment how you like it

[@TheRiskyDingo]

What budget headset with no mic do you recommend for the commgear supply setup? The headset I have isn't receiving comms through the 3.5mm jack and my budget is $300 cap. Has to be comfy under a ballistic helmet.

[@todop]

its not hard to program, its tedious to program all the channels, but putting a frequency ,shift and so on is easy

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Very true! tedious but not hard. It's just a pain when you want to add in like 80 channels and all all use a tx and rx offset. But yes, not hard...tedious is a better way to explain it

[@ahmadcampbell2626]

Good Stuff!

[@ATMENT1985]

I just got Impact pro headset connected to my beofang walkie-talkie just with a connector cord simple as fuck

[@danielberry7702]

Hi, I tried using your Sordin headset link (interested in using the code) but I was taken to the TEA website, where they dont do online sales. Just call em? or is the link a little wonky?

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Their model is a little different. You basically order a set for evaluation and the invoice is included. I'd call em. I also put a link the ones on Amazon. Tea usually deals with more business sales than individual commercial sales so it's a tad weird.

[@TexasLegionaryGuard]

Okay how do you feel about throat mics?

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

They go great with a ball and gag lol Lol I've never used them and have no interest. They seem goofy.

[@TexasLegionaryGuard]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo 😂😂😂😂

[@TexasLegionaryGuard]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo yeah I actually own a cheap one I don’t know how it sounds to others yet but they seem comfortable and I’ve talked to some people who have used them and they seemed to like them since you don’t have to directly talk into a mic, the main downside is a lot of them have a ear piece

[@Mcslap13]

I know this is an older video, but do you need any sort of license or anything Luke that to operate these? Total nub when it comes to coms.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

If you want to operate in the HAM frequencies you need a license.

[@Mcslap13]

@Thin Line Defense Co so, does that mean transmitting out? Or if there's local people nearby or a buddy with one, we can go back and forth as long as we are not on a spastic channel?

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

I think that was Jason that replied. Any HAM channels require a license to operate on. You could look at GMRS licenses but technically this device isn't supposed to be used on those channels... but no one besides people who yell at clouds would care -Walsh

[@jeremiahmaniscalco9308]

I just made the jump to pick up the com gear set up. But I had a quick question, I hooked it all up and only the left ear on my Sordin supreme pro-x is that the normal?

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Negative... Is it all sounds or just the radio?

[@jeremiahmaniscalco9308]

Just radio

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

@@jeremiahmaniscalco9308 I'd check your radio cord ends. Sounds like it may not be tight.

[@jakedub7453]

I feel like I’m watching a tactical Bill Nye

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

sometimes you need a dang degree to figure out how to put all this stuff together! -Walsh

[@pjackson239]

Just remember baofeng is the bottom of the barrel cheap radio. I have done many test baofeng vs whatever big branded comms. You get what you pay for.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

the beofeng is 20 dollars and the next stop up from it is 250.... so it's amazing when the rest of the market sucks

[@pjackson239]

@ThinLineDefenseCo baofeng is 20 dollars for a reason. I'm not saying it's useless but seriously consider what you really get for 20.00. They boast 10 watts when in reality you would be lucky to get 7 watts. Now 7 watts is actually good if that power is actually going out the antenna and not reflected back into the radio but there lies a other issue the antennas aren't that great. (I have tested practically every style that baofeng(bteck) or abbree makes. The winner is the ar-771 for gmrs. The other issue is they tend to be a little on the deaf side. All I'm saying is buy what you can afford but do alot of research and invest in something a bit better for the long haul. Just a side note I have a little 2 meter icom ic-v86 7 watt that can hit repeaters 15 miles away with the original rubber duck antenna cost me 120.00 new. None of the baofengs (more than 7) I have will do that or even hear them.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

if you gotta spend 5 sentences telling my why....it doesn't matter

[@slothking3756]

You should timestamp & title your videos. Great content

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

I do now... this was later so I probably should go back and fix it

[@ramonsanchez4022]

? Do I need any kind of comms if it’s just family and me

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

that's a you question. Some. would say yes. Getting a family games/frs license is probably smart but those channels would likely be loaded or highly monitored. I scan them and catch a ton of random chatter. -Walsh

[@ramonsanchez4022]

Neither anyone in family or I are former law or military what would u recommend for comms

[@ramonsanchez4022]

I’ll be for emergencies only to have

[@imabadonegetoverit6465]

Siad repeat over the radio......remember not military anymore....its ok

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

would it feel better if I meow'd into the radio instead? People seem to love when you do that....

[@imabadonegetoverit6465]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo Say Again?

[@imabadonegetoverit6465]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo Once somethings is engraved in you from day 1 of ait it's hard to get rid of. As arty we hear repeat over the radio and we are going to shoot the last thing we shot be it adjusting round or full fire for effect.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

@@imabadonegetoverit6465 haha well that is pretty awesome

[@LeadFarmer_84]

Ease up on the caffeine and/or cocaine. 🤨

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Lol don't be tricked by editing there new guy

[@TonywithaT]

What the fuck is up with you.. your character is peculiar…

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

*looks at you* sup Kettle.... -Wlah

[@gregderozier3846]

This is so incredibly silly. For god sakes grow up!!

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Hop calls me Dad. Just fyi and lost boys never die you pirate trash!

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Ro....

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

.... Fi

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o !

[@francism9782]

Every time someone mentions Hops, somewhere in the world a person's Slickster rig is giving them trouble.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

😆😆😆😆

[@shauwnmitchell1051]

I felt that… 😂

[@donherbert1561]

If you find yourself in a situation here in the United States, where you need to be concerned about having encrypted comms, then your problems are bigger than you realize.

[@zacharyfett2491]

There’s nothing more dangerous than a person with all the most expensive stuff, who has little to no idea how it all works. Solid video!

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

I think you just called out the entire tactical gear sub reddit lol

[@zacharyfett2491]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo Who mmmmeeeeeeeeeee? I would NEVER! 😇

[@leighwood8700]

As us Brits say “All the gear, no idea!!”

[@eastcoastflooring4624]

I don’t know about dangerous I would say easy target

[@blackr0se]

the expense is irrelevant. anyone not knowing how to use anything dangerous is scary. but people just like to parrot things they heard before

[@smoovedave]

Thin line: “Repeat” Fires: “COWABUNGA ITS IS”

[@Tism_me_timbers]

The fake, forced laughs were insufferable. Just be normal.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Haha you should meet me. You'd be mad.

[@PilotPatriot]

Great information and good quality video, but really difficult to listen to with you laughing through every sentence, we are here for the quality info, you don't have to try so hard to be funny! Just a small critique, Thanks for the video, big help!!

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Awww haha noted. I try to make it fun and genuine but I'll keep that in mind!

[@paladin11C40]

One thing to remember, put your radio where you can reach it so you can change channels if your comms are compromised, and put the PTT button where you can push it with your off hand, not the hand that holds the gun. I am right hand dominate, so all of my comms stuff tends to be towards my left hand. Another way to help protect your comms for short distances, and not be triangulated, is to use a mesh network device. I am using GoTenna because there are many out there to help bounce a signal, the app is already on the app stores, and it uses end-to-end encryption to send text messages. Mesh dont use any infrastructure to operate, just think of them as a cheap radio with limited range (think Baofeng) that sends texts. Great video.

[@jeffccr3620]

I thought the app store turned that feature off because of the CCP told them to over the covid riots in China CCP learned there lesson in the Hong Kong massacre

[@paladin11C40]

@@jeffccr3620 Not sure what feature you are talking about. GoTenna is not a feature its a stand alone product.

[@JoeBlow-ub1us]

Every youtuber talking about kit: Remember, expensive kit is useless if you don't train and learn how to use it. Me: No, no I don't think I will.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

haha well just look cool then. That's half the battle. -Walsh

[@RegimentJoker]

Why do you laugh awkwardly when you talk

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

I pay for your time in girly giggles He hehehe hehehehe -Walsh

[@Sprnklrmn]

You’re videos are very helpful bc I’m trying to learn these same things and this saves me a lot of time and confusion doing research in forums and such.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Haha I hear you. I'm always like "how the hell is this done" and it seems like a lot of knowledge is behind gatekeepers that don't want it all out there. Glad to share what I learn so you can get up and running too! -Walsh

[@spinner4life2]

Hearing someone say "repeat" into a radio seriously stresses me tf out. Perhaps the most dangerous bit or radio traffic I personally know of is the word "repeat"... got in the habit of using "say again" real quick

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Lol this is not the radio etiquette channel

[@Kghost0311]

Good thing no artillery or mortar teams were listening

[@jasonisoldi1584]

What you know about comm gear could fit on the tip of a 5.56

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

DADDDD!! SOME WEIRD GUY IS CRYING TO ME ON THE INTERNET AGAIN -Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalsh

[@adlucem9845]

Truth. Newbs please don't listen to this stupid shit.

[@number4777.]

So enlighten us?

[@14e]

Lol idk some LEO barely get issued out anything

[@Jewifer333x2]

I legit dumped my amps for a set of peltors. Amps have cool modularity and awesome noise protection... if you have a supply chain to replace them at the frequency that they fail.

[@davidboyd7773]

I can't believe I haven't seen this sooner great video. I would argue for non radio people to get a remote speaker mic with the 3.5mm connector and either a tube earpiece or a AUX cord to the ear pro. Less wires to keep track of on the kit.

[@steelwolfnolast6938]

The Kenwood handhelds also fit the baofeng connecter so it's not just one radio. Or even just one radio style and evolution. uvr5, uvr5+ the r8 and so on all use the same connector. There was a third ..Anytone DMRs. I'm sure there's more out there. 09:19 EDIT: 13:24 Spoke to soon. Host mentions what I just said about kenwoods. :)

[@trollslayer2116]

True budget coms is a fire with a towel being waved over it.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

No love for can and string I see... disappointing

[@EquipaPatriot]

I have a PTT for my Walker's Razor. I need a microphone. Any recommenations?

[@AlexCausey]

I do hope everyone Googles jamming devices and click images above then check out all the portable units available for disrupting communications. If the SHTF civil conflict happens the 3 letter agencies plan to deploy Jamming units that will cover all frequencies.

[@saucyscrambler8710]

Whenever he said fudd lord I knew I could trust his advice

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

haha well thanks for watching! -Walsh

[@steelwolfnolast6938]

Looked up several vids on uv5r and comms setup. Different vods covered it different ways so still got something out of this. Thumbs up.

[@theredcelt627]

I like it. I’ve been looking forward to this video. As usual, I think the best option for me is somewhere in the middle. I’ll have to watch again to pick what makes sense for my setup. Honestly, this is the first time in my life I’ve had people to use comms with. Most of the training I’ve done has been shooting. Haven’t really had the area to move or the people to communicate. Now that new avenues are opening to me, I’m loving expanding my skill set.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Badass! Get those folks on civtak with you too. I'll show you some tricks but making your own server and having the team all connected up is pretty crazy. Interested to see what setup you end up with! -Walsh

[@theredcelt627]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo I’ll keep you in the loop. It seems a little ridiculous how expensive PTTs can be, given they’re just relocating a function the radio already has. Refresh my memory, what’s civtak? It’s making a dull clunking that’s not exactly a ringing bell, in my head.

[@edwardfletcher7790]

There's no reason to not have a headset/remote mic now when they're only $5-10... PS : It's pronounced "BOW FENG"

[@silkplayer9]

I love you bro but you have that 80-90s action movie bad guy look 😂

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Hahah that's awesome. I need a good 80's bad guy name

[@Jkp1321]

Idk if I missed you saying this but, with the Walker Razors, if you run an audio output line into the headphones, you lose the Walker's microphone audio feed. Unless you're doing some sneaky squirrel stuff, which you probably aren't, it makes more sense to have a speaker mic when using budget electronic hearing protection. Speaker mics also have the distinct advantage of being used without a headset at all, or with a full cut helmet that cannot accommodate even the very slim Walker Razors.

[@kekistanimememan170]

I like having my radio coms heard by everyone so they can hear my expert half life 2 larping as a civil protection member

[@ladams2364]

I’m not sure acting like an idiot helps make a point .

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

you'd be surprised lol ... I got your point here ka-zinga!! -Walsh

[@HeliopausePictures]

This is a part of good point-making, clear explication, entertainment, and elucidation. Keep up the idiocy or I won't come back.

[@jonathonschram3429]

I had been running the Baofeng (AR-152?) for 3 or 4 years. I think I'm on my 4th radio. I'm not a comm wizard like some of my friends have become, but I try to be at least competent. When they all went APRS or DMR...I kind of fell behind the curve. If your like me...see if you can get your comm guy to get everybody on ATAK. I'm not smart enough to set it up from scratch, but a bunch of us switched over around a year ago. The hammer plug-in makes training easier (Run $20 UV-5R'S instead of $3,500 Motorollas for training), IF your someplace that has internet anyway.

[@adlucem9845]

DMR radio is the only thing you should be using. There are DMR's now that cost less than a UV-5R such as the COTRE radios. I can find you and intercept you within an hour if you're using a baofeng. And that with commercially available equipment. The fedgov has 100000x better stuff. Dmr natively encrypts it's transmissions.

[@rescuecomm]

Yeah, steal the PRC-152 and PRC-148 National Guard radios. When their comms people send the over the over the air stun/kill signal, you will have useless bricks.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

You'll like our meshtastic videos Plus 152s were awesome in 1985...

[@mrheart4242]

A unlocked uvr5 is better than a walmart blister pack radio.

[@Airsoftforall]

Personally, I use an antenna relocation and put my radio low on the right side.

[@WonderMonkeyRadio]

Something to add. When using a remote mic, that can throw off your compass. Know how I know? Because I know.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

OooOo very good to know!

[@mmpiforall5913]

If SHTF: I would not immediately PTT & Tx on radios of any kind to get ‘help’, there won't be any. Just folks looking to take what you have. Rely only on those you already know in your circle, etc. Instead I'd use scanners to listen to what everyone else is doing and what's happening. I have all bands/channels in this area programmed. I also use the 'signal stalker' feature on one radio to pick up 'danger close' radios & personnel, ie, those that may encroach my ranch fence lines. Using Ham radio, etc, to talk to pple 200 miles away is pointless. Do I have CB, FRS, GMRS, MURS, 2M, 70cm, marine VHF transceivers, etc? Sure, I’ll Tx on them if I really, really need to com with others outside the family, but only as a last resort! To talk to family all over the ranch when SHTF, we're considering a part of the HF band no one uses, so no one is listening either. We're looking at HF radios built for .5W to 2W ERP with off-channel freq's. CB, FRS, GMRS or MURS, etc, is like a white flag on your front door! Imho.... comments??

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

True! but those basic frequencies get folks familiar with radios and how to do the more advanced stuff. I'm with you though... I'd be on a random freq that would require an unlocked device. I talked about how easy it is to triangulate a radio signal on our meshtastic video... which is actually a better solution than what you mentioned. -Walsh

[@mmpiforall5913]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo Good point!

[@andrewfierek4646]

What antenna connection protector piece is that at 8:06 ? Looks like a metal piece protecting the radio volume and antenna port

[@Subgunman]

Great video! Very informative for nubies! Personally I like the Bowman PRR setup. Frequency hopping in the 2.4 GHz ISSM band. Squad spec. Short range up to 900 meters LOS. It will also screwup Bluetooth and WiFi comms of others who go for some of the gear based on those frequencies. Radio utilizes a single earpiece headphone style system with a condenser microphone. Held to ones head with a strap system that can be used under almost helmet system. PTT is on the side of the radio or there is a wireless PTT one can strap to their rifle or any other place they desire. Batteries. A weak point of many radios. Most Ham or medium to high tier radios use rechargeable batteries. One must keep several charged batteries on hand for a mission. This equals extra weight. Which can also result in the loss of several mags of ammo. The PRR uses plain old AA alkaline batteries. When your done chuck em'. (Not recommended, bad for environment) but one can keep a whole stack of batteries that weigh less than a rechargeable pack. Having lucked out and bought cut offs from non working headsets I have been able to make my own adapters to any headset that I own. As for long range comms, ham radios will do and unless this is a SHTF scenario where society has broken down DO NOT USE ham gear on FRS, MURS, or commercial frequencies. I prefer more current Motorola equipment with encryption for more serious and long range work. Yeah one needs deep pockets and must know what they are doing to use these toys but a bit more practical than using some of the old government PRCs (aka just plain ole Pricks). Yeah they are cool, cost a lot more than they are worth and a pain to repair since parts are almost non existent to civilians or are no longer made. One thing to remember is to use the KISS philosophy when setting up your gear. Semper Fi and 73

[@CRinJersey]

If I get a high threat lvl100 comms will you talk to me through them Walsh 😀 Great vid brother

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

lol get your HAM license, you can talk to me!

[@kippnovak9833]

Hey thin line...do u have a vid on how 2 set up & use the baeufong 5r ? ...I know there r vids out there but I like ur way of teaching

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

I don't yet but it's been highly requested. I'll make one and have it out soon.

[@kippnovak9833]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo thanx bro...

[@viktorkanyik3416]

Finally a video about comms that actually answered my questions and not multiplied them. Thank you Mr.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Glad to help and thanks for watching! -Walsh

[@viktorkanyik3416]

​​@@ThinLineDefenseCo The only question that I have after all of this that can I use setups like this for communication between units with dedicated radio operators in each unit. Or me and my teammates are gonna need another setup and these setups are only good for communication inside a small unit?

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

That depends on the unit. They could be using digital truncated which would require specific radios and specific coding. MOST likely you'd need another radio and as long as you can hook it into a PTT, you should be fine. Some units may use a PRC152 though and you could run on their frequency but it would still likely required coding for specific settings. Ultimately the answer it....it depends. I'd plan on needing an different radio when going from civilian to mil units. -Walsh

[@dad2022]

Excellent job brother. Thanks for continuing to put out great content.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Thanks for always watching and thanks for the support dad! We appreciate it. -Walshy

[@Tacticalquarterpounder]

In the crye SPC what is that multicam black on shoulder area and the black panel thing on the inside back area of carrier

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

that's the eagle ergo on the inside. The shoulders is a Haley hitchhike into a flatpack 2.0. The flatpack situation is ... well I'm still trying it lol the eagle ergo is fantastic

[@freshjnew]

I like the little earpiece. Be something good to keep in a pouch in case anything happened to the earpro

[@Shogun..]

Cheap Portable CB Radio BOOM

[@minnesotajames1]

One of the best videos I've seen on this topic. Well done. Really helpful for someone trying to get to that next level in comms.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Thanks

[@Skullfocher]

You're joking, right?

[@braaap690]

Great video! It took trying 5 different PTT to find the correct one that worked with my Midland GXT and Peltor Comm 3. And and over a year of mailing the PTT back and forth! But Tony at Comm Gear Supply in California was dedicated to find the correct PTT.

[@calebsone1630]

I get having fun but making fun of people and their hobbies is stupid if you join in the same one

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Anything that can't survive the rest of ridicule is probably garbage. Don't take me too seriously either, I have fun with it. appreciate you watching and commenting though! -Walsh

[@bordgamer5555]

What qd is that and what antenna? 8:09

[@TomahawksNShotShells]

Bro...cut back on the caffeine lol

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Haha I do love some coffee!!

[@TomahawksNShotShells]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo good video though, I'll buy ya a coffee next time....but decaff

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

@@TomahawksNShotShells hahah the video will be long... And boring... I'll need a nap lol but I'll take it!

[@gridbasedotnet]

Let’s collab.

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

I'm in! -Walsh

[@kippnovak9833]

How do u switch the mic to the other side if u r a lefty ???

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

which one?

[@Galildoughty]

I've never heard of Tea headsets before. Do they sell to civilians? It seems you have to request a quote. Do any retailers carry there stuff? Thanks

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

They do. I think they usually deal with larger scale but just reach out to em via their form.

[@larryjanson4011]

if chirp is FREE why do they need my credit card info?

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

Click download lol It's open source so you can donate if you want to....but you don't have to. -Walsh

[@Wes123445678]

Tongo tongo ambush is a great example, most people know the 4 special forces that died but most don’t know the rest of the detachment had to run for their lives and were being advanced on and had to render their radios useless and prep for a last stand they just lucky that isis began to lose intrest in attacking where they started to prep a defensive position, this is with high quality comms, so never underestimate the ability to Z out even the most simple radio

[@nathaniallischak3133]

Why do you keep fake laughing? What is so funny?

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

You Edit: I have fun making my videos lol if that bothers you then I'd move on

[@aaronwilson1666]

PRC-149 baby!

[@battlethebollocksrodgers9173]

Smoke signals it is

[@KaptaynAmeryka]

Could you recommend a setup for a BTech DMR-6X2 Pro radio and Howard Leight Impact Sport earpro?

[@RedHanded1969]

Luv it.. Goofy, funny, entertaining but quite informational..

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

3 out of 4... That's pretty good lol -Walsh Edit: I misread... It's early lol

[@BobBob-il2ku]

Please review the earmor m32 headset $89 and has a TP-120/ U174 DOWNLEAD

[@ichikurataichou3119]

I started with the uv 5r it's cheap and I don't know what I'm doing so I can mess it up. I'll try to get something better when I figure out when I'm doing

[@longshot82383]

I have a kenwood nx-210-k2 does anyone know if they are any good?

[@legallimitoutdoors9917]

Thank u

[@soulishere3869]

Do you have links for all the gear used in the last set-up?

[@ThinLineDefenseCo]

It should be in the description but if not I can help give you a quick list or point you to what's missing

[@soulishere3869]

@@ThinLineDefenseCo the QD system for the antenna and headset connector doesn't appear to be on the list

[@KHIJAPAN]

Does anyone know how to convert comtac 3 for left hand shooter? I am a left hand shooter and when I shoot, the buttstock touches the volume buttons switching off the headset! actually, moving the buttons to the right side instead of left

[@heykat18]

Your channel is costing me lots of $$$$$$$, but I'm glad I found it and enjoy your content.