Buffy The Vampire Slayer 6x19 - "Seeing Red" Reaction

[@dephdeph1188]

Oh you poor poor thing. The shock on your face says it all. We've ALL been there. Rip Tara Macklay.

[@Theomite]

Yeah, it's like: "So *that's* what we looked like back in '02. Huh."

[@TheAnswerWillleaveyou]

It was great

[@ihateunicorns867]

This was 18 years ago and I’m still upset about it.

[@rcslyman8929]

Seriously, it was just so sudden and senseless. Everyone was so happy they'd gotten back together, then one stray bullet just... wrecked everyone. Everyone getting their knickers in a twist because GoT is killing off characters left and right, and I'm sitting there like, "yeah, I lived through the Dark Willow Saga. I'm good."

[@joetamburello6292]

Tara was a useless character

[@Cyborganna]

Just so you know, James Marsters had it written into His Actor's contract that He never, ever, has to do scenes like that again. It nearly broke Him and His career. Sent the poor Bloke into therapy. Hugs all round. 💖💖💖💖💖

[@MARYWTHER]

SMG hated it too. She hates s6 because of this storyline (how it turned up mostly, how detrimental it seemed to her character's arc and all)

[@everythingshiny]

@@MARYWTHER I feel the same way honestly

[@hajnijonas9510]

6 = BEST SEASON

[@nikkidawn7490]

matt djakei ya it was the most dramatic and sad except for this scene screw this scrne

[@timf7413]

@peter I think what they were trying to go for was the underscore and reassert that Spike was truly evil (which although he always nominally was, had long been forgotten by most fans by this point.) and to make the point that he had effectively hit a brick wall in his moral and character development which motivates him to take the actions he does subsequently. The idea is sound IMHO, I think it was just a victim of execution in that this scene is so repulsive, it overshoots the dramatic point they were trying to make.

[@qwerty77772]

The most ironic part: Tara and Warren's actors, Amber Benson and Adam Busch, dated for several years after this season. They broke up but do remain close friends and even directed a film together. Life is funny like that.

[@Aaerial15]

And the way Joss told Adam about it? "You're gonna kill your girlfriend"

[@frakkintoasterluvva7920]

Hard-Boiled Going by his interviews, Adam is really smart and a great guy.

[@qwerty77772]

@@frakkintoasterluvva7920 Oh, I don't doubt that. Warren has little in common with Adam Busch outside of appearence. A testament to his acting skills.

[@CarrotFlowers421]

I'll need Adam to do a Ramsay/Simon thing and portray a not cruel character for me to not get the heeby jeebies when I see him

[@RLucas3000]

Hard-Boiled It’s hard sometimes for actors that play horrific characters. I think it drove the your actor who played Geoffrey on GoT out of acting. And I still feel sad for the actor that played the rapist in a famous episode of All in the Family. He said the studio audience (it was a sitcom that dealt often with controversial subject matter) collectively growled at him and he thought they were going to surge at him en masse and kill him

[@FedralBI]

"I don't accept this." Yeah, 18 years after I first saw it, I still don't accept this. Tara was the one bright beacon of goodness, and innocence in a sea of evil, and pain. We still adore you Tara.

[@oofoof3011]

I hate Tara

[@jp3813]

@@oofoof3011 The OP didn't ask.

[@oofoof3011]

@@jp3813 k

[@TheScaleoh]

And we didn't ask for op's comment so what does it matter. Oh satan these kind of answers tick me off for some reason.

[@mb7626]

yeah she's like the best of them, or is at least the relatively normal/relatable/non super powered version of a generally good person.

[@jimyeow3379]

Sometimes I wonder whether Tara's death is the price of the resurrection spell. Her blood was splattered on Willow's white shirt, much like how the fawn's blood was splattered on her hands while she was wearing the white dress. Regardless, Buffy's resurrection sets up the events which lead to Warren shooting the gun in Buffy's backyard, and Tara being in the crossfire.

[@zachlina4812]

Willow does imply in the comics that she felt she chose Buffy over Tara and that its what led to what happened in this episode.

[@alexwright4930]

That's a good point.

[@alissamclaughlin1949]

Maybe. I never thought of that before, that's a good theory!

[@RitsychServare]

@@zachlina4812 She chose Buffy but then she also chose magic and power over their relationship

[@spiros1234ful]

Also, remember that Tara was initially against trying the resurrection spell, saying that it was against the natural order. Thinking that may have been some early foreshadowing as well.

[@jameskelly101]

I love how Buffy pushes Xander out of the way. Instead of jumping for cover herself, she tries to save her friend. She’s a true hero

[@jp3813]

She's been in heaven, so I don't think she's worried about dying.

[@catarinemarques231]

@@jp3813 She was ripped out from Heaven. If Buffy dies again she will go to Hell

[@jp3813]

@@catarinemarques231 Says who? Also, death is inevitable for her since she's a human.

[@IDyce88]

Buffy has a control complex...she feels she has to be in control at all times...she does care about her friends but that is secondary to her need to be in control of every situation around her. that is why she liked being popular in her old school and why she favoured being friends with xander n willow in Sunnydale...she recognised them as not only good people but also ones easier to keep on her side. later on in university more of this shows because she can't even handle having a roomate and Giles points out in a conversation being a single child has psychologically made her more...spoiled in some ways. the only roommate she is ok with is willow and well..not surprising really because willow she already knows and willow does her own thing in uni half the time anyway. then enter Dawn...the little sister...and i can't stress how badly buffy handles being an older sister...she knows has to care for Dawn but she is really quite harsh on her.

[@CoasterTrax]

How you down play her action here and elsewhere. She IS a true hero and you all just dont like her. Thats why you find excuse for her peotective behaviour.

[@alexwright4930]

Joss Wheddon is just evil, finally putting Tara in the opening credits for her last episode alive. Been dreading this episode since I stumbled across the reactions.

[@TheRaventwilight]

A Whopper of an episode. Seeing someone see the "your shirt" moment for the first time ever... Heartbreaking. 😣

[@lexlarae8466]

Truly

[@TheRaventwilight]

@@lexlarae8466 just watched Liam Duke in the moment this morning. Still heartbreaking 💔😢🥺

[@lexlarae8466]

RavenSteal me too I’m going back and watching my faves react to it too lol.

[@seangriffin2053]

Definitely the S6 episode that hits fans the hardest IMO, because losing Tara really did come out of nowhere. For everything they've been through, a stray bullet from a bitter man-child is what kills a family member and it proves how random tragedy can be. As for Spike, well... I think it's in this horrible moment Spike realizes why Buffy can never be with him. For all his feelings towards her, he is still little better than a demon driven by instinct. He's never known genuine love in a long time, and that coupled with mixed signals, he never understood until now. Buffy was right to break it off and the painful honesty coupled with it revealed her remorse.

[@MANJYOMETHUNDER111]

He still didn't understand it, he just realized that he couldn't understand it without a soul.

[@lessismore8533]

Thai comment isn’t fair. I’m TIRED of ppl judging Buffy’s relationship with Spike BEFORE he got his sound back. I still don’t think this episode was a good idea BUT it’s SO annoying because ppl NEVER act shocked at Angelus behavior. Cus they EXPECT him to be a certain way. Yet they judge souless Spike Luis he’s not soulless . Very unfair Her relationship with him improved in S7, and even in the comics it continues. Let’s say Spike DID have his soul in S6. Buffy was depressed. It still wouldn’t have worked. S6 was bad timing for many things..

[@ciantaaffe]

Yay! Amber Benson has been added to the opening credits! Finally! Oh... wait... never mind... I'll just be over in the corner balling my eyes out now...

[@mrspidey80]

Yeah, do NOT get attached to couples in a Whedon show. Ever!

[@amariebloom]

Now u tell me!! #bangelforlife

[@lionlyons]

Willow and Kennedy? Gunn and Fred (they broke up, but remained good friends)?

[@catherinebaker9075]

@@lionlyons Gunn literally sold Fred for his mental upgrade. He was the reason Illyria rose using Fred's body.

[@tuschman168]

I've got a good feeling about this Wesley and Fred thing though. They finally confessed and seem to be in a good place and I'm pretty close to the end of the series.

[@hannahasencio4340]

@@tuschman168 how was it lol I just saw this and was like ur in for a ride

[@stephenalbro9839]

Finally, Amber Benson gets her opening credits spot. At least we know she'll be arou- oh, come on, Whedon!

[@HowCaseySeesIt]

I saw that Spike scene for the first time when I was pretty young and don’t even think I completely understood it. Watching it now at 26 is much more painful. I definitely related to how you felt watching it.

[@buffycatnip]

i watched the episode when i was 16 and understood exactly what the scene was.

[@DaddyTwoFoot]

@@buffycatnip Good for you?

[@jaycievictory8461]

@@DaddyTwoFoot It's quite possible she's saying she recognised it because of personal experience. Be kind.

[@elliottsvibin]

Watched it when i was 9 and yeah i see it the same way

[@lessismore8533]

@@elliottsvibindang 9 years old? Thats was a rape scene. Buffy isn’t a kids show How were allowed to see it so young?..

[@SweenyTodd98]

six years after the pilot and Joss finally got to fulfill his wish to put someone in the main credits only to kill them off in the same episode. Buckle up because shit only gets crazier from here.

[@RomansR2]

I think I'm not alone in saying this is THE episode I've been waiting for your reaction to. Also, this is why Warren is the TRUE Big Bad. Someone you can dismiss as irrelevant for most of the season but who actually commits very real and human acts of evil just from entitlement, carelessness and pure selfishness. Nasty.

[@Philbert-s2c]

I've been saying this for years. The worst BTVS and AtS villains are always human.

[@80swoodpanel]

What an absolute piece of shit Warren is! Just a little human but he gets my vote for the most frightening villain in the Buffyverse.

[@QoQabai658]

Facts. Warren was like Dr. Frankenstein and Dark Willow was his lumbering creation.

[@sadfaery]

When I first saw this episode, I didn't go numb. I just started yelling at the TV, no! No no no. I think it was even worse than when Angel killed Jenny, because it just came out of nowhere at a time when Willow and Tara were so happy. Joss Whedon could give George RR Martin a run for his money in killing off characters we love. Big virtual hug. This episode really messes with your head.

[@charismaspencer89]

Spike doesn’t have a soul....he’s evil. His “love” for Buffy was obsession and this scene proves that. (in my humble opinion)

[@Olivetree80]

Yep, I think it was important to show who he was. It's what led him to choosing to get a soul, which motives aside, is something highly unusual for any vampire to do. I think Spike has always had attachment issues, and it showed in extremely disgusting ways in this episode.

[@Logan_Baron]

Yep. Even before this Joss had pointed out many times that the audience kept forgetting that Spike was a monster. Vampires can love, but without a soul it is twisted. It's obsessive, it's selfish, it's dark. I love the Spike character, but we need to understand this. It is what drives him to seek his soul back. It was pointed out that Buffy had said no to him before, and then had sex with him. This was different though. She was crying. He realizes that a man would know the difference. I monster wouldn't and he doesn't want to be a monster anymore. He gets the soul because he wants for Buffy to have the man she deserves rather than the monster.

[@Olivetree80]

@@Logan_Baron yep, I think people who loved Spike had a hard time accepting this scene. I love Spike as a character too, but in no way someone to ship with Buffy, without a soul.

[@willscorner8423]

I don't think Spike was really aware of what he is doing. He was desperate and that blinded him. Not trying to justify it, but People can do horrible things out of love when its connected with desperation and pain.

[@Olivetree80]

@@willscorner8423 He might have not had a goal in mind, but that only shows how selfish and in his own bubble he really was, it was all about making himself feel good, not considering her. But they did say vampires without a soul can feel love, it's just purely selfish love.

[@zachlina4812]

You know its gonna suck when you have to take a deep breath before you open the video.

[@Philbert-s2c]

When this episode aired, I don't know which group was pissed off more, the Spuffy shippers or the W/T shippers. I do know that a lot of the W/T people simply stopped watching at this point.

[@fadedneverland6091]

Yes, this was the episode that sparked a million rage-quits.

[@Nicamon]

@@fadedneverland6091 What makes it even worse is I remember discovering,at some point,that if Willow chose Oz back in"New Moon Rising"HE would have been the one to die.Tara's death was *only* functional to make Willow going Full Dark.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@killingerblue]

I haven’t even started this yet but i know it’s gonna hurt...

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

Whedon had to dip into reality a bit to touch true darkness. The last scene plays out every day in real lives somewhere. Every...single...day.

[@Henrik_Holst]

And so does the Buffy/Spike bathroom scene. Lot's of people hate that scene (and so do I) but I still think that it has it's place in the series to show the real ugliness of that true darkness that does exist in the real world.

[@zabukazar]

This episode is like getting punched in the face over and over again.

[@Frank-Voight-Kampff]

Normally I enjoy your reactions. When you find something funny, when you find something sad, when you realize something... But this one hits too close to home. I think a part of me is still shocked even after all those years. Tara is and always will be one of my favourite characters on the show. Seeing you react this time made me feel awful. Like I was a voyeur; like I was expected to enjoy your pain. Like Angelus in Passion. That clearly was a new experience for me. Thank you for sharing yours...

[@omalleycaboose5937]

Is it bad that I only watch reactions to specific see the pain

[@davidsumner7604]

@@omalleycaboose5937 These reactions really kicked off with the Red Wedding because it's fun to watch people be shocked.

[@TheCrippledEgg]

I like how you included your reaction to Amber Bensen being added to the opening credits.

[@noahmagana137]

This episode hurts the most. While spike will always be my favorite Buffy character, watching him trying to rape Buffy is one of the shocking moments in the show. Also Tara dying was WTF then and its WTF now.

[@Milleniumlance]

Spike is a soulless demon...with a chip leash....with bits of William in there...and I had that same face at the end my first watching..

[@jdcatabas2260]

I've seen this episode many times, but only now did I just notice that Buffy pushed Xander out of the way and blocked Warren's bullets :( .

[@chriscommons7915]

And if Xander died there would have been no one to stop Dark Willow

[@TheJDKNIGHT]

Tara was the most genuinely honest, reliable, caring and good person on this show

[@197508300610]

It's been sixteen years and I still hate this episode.

[@TheAnswerWillleaveyou]

Me and my cousin called each other when they episode first air then we laugh about it years later

[@everythingshiny]

I have never rewatched this episode. It was hard enough getting through this reaction and I started halfway through to avoid the Spike scene but then the flashbacks came... ugh. I hate that scene so much. The most terrifying thing ever to happen on Buffy.

[@christineherrmann9374]

this.

[@funnyvalentine8409]

I hate too

[@Celticbrit113]

I had the same reaction when it aired.. we had to tune in next week to find out what happened, spent a week at school with trauma lol

[@QoQabai658]

In all honesty, I never really liked Tara, her character felt a little bit forced on the audience. But yeah, this was harsh.

[@catrin3944]

The last episode and this one is so cruel because they make you so happy getting Willow and Tara together, seeing them happy together and then BAM! Then there’s Spike and Buffy which is so difficult to watch. On a lighter note, when Andrew crashes into that roof I laughed so hard hard the first time I saw it I laughed almost throughout the entire advert that came after it. Still makes me laugh lol 🤦🏼‍♀️😂

[@jayb7775]

The most horrifying part of this episode is that it wasn't a vampire or a demon. It was a human that caused the most destruction of anyone they'd faced.

[@Cleopatra7Philopator]

Enormous Warmest Hugs, Sweetie! So many Years, and Views, and Knowing it's coming, and I STILL Cry! I was a STRONG Tara(and Willow and Tara) fan! Amber finally made the Opening Credits!

[@tsukigalleta]

Sweetie, I'm so sorry, that's all I can say. When my son watched this one, he straightforwardly asked me where exactly was Joss Whedon's house. He was determined to go kill him

[@thelegendofthem6120]

😲😲😲😲

[@ladiblue03]

Lol

[@willsofer3679]

It’s not like Joss Whedon is the Marquis de Sade. What you just told us is kinda fucked up.

[@iprobablyforgotsomething]

That's... a bit extreme. Two wrongs don't make a right, after all. But fully agree that Joss is definitely not the "feminist-guy who can do-not-wrong" the way a lot of people make him out to be. I like that he turned the helpless-blonde trope on its head by making the cheerleader physically stronger than just about everyone. But he often forgot to show other kinds of strength besides traditionally-masculine (physical & arguably magical = another representation of overwhelming physical ability b/c of how magic in the show interacts with the physical world and renders others helpless). And he fell so in love with his grimdarkbad!realism and quippy-lines that he increasingly sacrificed character-consistency, to the show's detriment and in an unfair below-the-belt hit to the fans who expected better of him.

[@misteral1083]

@@iprobablyforgotsomething "But fully agree that Joss is definitely not the "feminist-guy who can do-not-wrong" the way a lot of people make him out to be. " Sadly, this comment has aged remarkably well....

[@andrewthezeppo]

This whole episode is basically being in shock for forty five minutes

[@sarahxo2317]

The most uncomfortable episode to watch in the whole series.

[@marceline_mal]

The second hardest episode to watch... after The Body of course.

[@everythingshiny]

I can rewatch The Body. It's hard but I can do it. I cannot rewatch this episode, I've seen it literally once.

[@christino3852]

The Body is insanely painful but watching Seeing Red I can feel the pain in my entire body. It’s worse, IMO.

[@ryanthompson1244]

A Hole in the World from Angel is similarly tear inducing.

[@PinkyPowers]

In some ways this is where we lose everyone. Not a single character comes out of this unchanged. Your face perfectly reflected my emotions upon first seeing the "Your Shirt" moment. Acceptance is a long, painful journey.

[@ryanthompson1244]

This episode, The Body and a Hole in the World never fail to make me cry.

[@YammoYammamoto]

Wow... you are beyond brave. Thank you for leaving your reaction to this great episode out there for everyone to... experience. It made it almost twice as painful to watch knowing what would happen and seeing your blatant disbelief. Soo many emotions in so few seconds.

[@nataliej54]

By far the most messed up/saddest episode of the series. The spike/buffy situation. I still like spike. I do not condone his actions. Just to be clear. I still can't watch the spike/buffy scene. I have to fast forward the scene. I apologize. Not very good with putting long sentences together. I'm glad he went away for a while. To take care care of some business. But I also understand he does not have a soul. James was soo affected by this episode. In his contract it says he refuses to do scenes like this, he even turned down roles like that. Also in between takes he went into the fetal position, crying. Constantly apologizing to SMG. She had to talk him into to finish the scene. Shan we are here for you. Soo sorry you had to see this episode. I always find a way to avoid it.

[@stanklepoot]

Well, you're REALLY not supposed to condone Spike's behavior in any way. Shan may be right that Xander's anti-Spike stance can come off as a bit self-righteous, but every time you here Xander try to warn people about Spike, you're hearing Whedon warn fans about Spike. Spike may do some good things, but without a soul he can never truly be a good guy. He can fall in love, but that love will always be tainted by the demon within him since there's nothing to counter the demon's influence.

[@nataliej54]

@@stanklepoot sorry I didnt mean to offend anyone. So I apologize. I'm just not soo good at putting sentences together. I sometimes agree with Xander. Thank you for the explanation. I understand now. When spike falls in love it consumes him. As he said he's "love's bitch". I like knowing he fell in love with buffy. But his obsession with her. Was sometimes too much to handle.

[@stanklepoot]

@@nataliej54 There is absolutely nothing to apologize about. I was simply trying to expand upon one of the things you brought up, and discuss Whedon's stated intent of the scene.

[@nataliej54]

@@stanklepoot thank you soo much. I just wanted to explain myself. I dont want to offend anyone. And my words might seem like it. Thanks again for the info. Now I have more insight now. Regarding this. All is well. Thanks again :)

[@wisewillow7530]

Did you know the guy that played spike, said that that scene was the most horrible scene he had to ever do in acting history and that he said that they only did one take and that he would never EVER do a scene like that again. Not in Buffy and not in any other show or movie. It effected him like the rest of us. You guys are right, no matter how good spike acts he still with be a demon. Sad but true but that doesn't mean we cant empathize with him.

[@NelsonVlog66]

The writer of this episode is a woman who based the rape scene on her own experience while in college, except she was the one who attempted to force herself on a guy.

[@talynstarburst2l2l2l]

Wow!

[@raheemdudley503]

I came just to see your reaction to the ending. I had the same reaction 16years ago when it premiered. Imagine waiting a whole week for the next episode 😩😩my childhood was stressful

[@kingcrimson2643]

You poor girl. You need a digital hug and some digital cookies. *Sends digital hug and cookies.

[@serenity4eva89]

Aww, you really deserve a hug! Seventeen years and I still don't accept it either.

[@DegrassiInstantStar]

Angel dies in season 2: Shan goes mental Buffy dies in season 5: Shan goes into denial Tara dies in season 6: Shan just shuts down Yep, save to say that _Buffy_ has numbed Shan's emotions to a point. I'm so sorry we couldn't protect you from one of the most hurtful deaths. Also, you kept questioning why Amber Benson was in the opening and I don't know if it's been explained, but Joss Whedon had always wanted to kill off a series regular, and with Tara's death at the conclusion of this episode, he put her into the opening for that sole purpose. And, as I began to warm to Spike and Buffy, this episode happened, and it kind of killed them for them. Yes, Angel/Angelus really hurt Buffy, but neither of them did what Spike attempted to do to Buffy, and that's revolting.

[@SpyroCynderFan]

That scene with Tara never gets any easier to watch. Just hits you out of nowhere just like Joyce.

[@Megan-rr6qg]

I could feel muscles clenching around the world in dread when u watched Buffy draw a bath...

[@Bartlebycs]

I keep thinking it's gonna be different this time. Tara's not gonna get hit. But she always does....

[@PatheticApathetic]

“I’m not sure if I should worry or not.” Mwahahahahahahahaha Joss always wanted to kill a character in the same episode that they were added to the main cast in the opening credits. This was his opportunity

[@marvindroide]

It hurt back then. It still hurts now. Sends a hug your way.

[@davidramirez4570]

I'm quite certain I told you this before, Joss Whedon likes to kick you when you're down, and we kind of love him for it. Clem needs some love too.

[@Palpad100]

Nowadays I don't think people like Joss Whedon much.

[@SunGawdRa]

@@Palpad100 They built him up to something he was not, instead of what he is: a talented director and creator, with obvious flaws like the rest of us.

[@s13rr4buf3]

Buffy was ahead of its time, illustrating how dangerous incels can be, 20 years before that term was popularized.

[@metroplex7986]

Yep...this episode happened. It hit like a ton of bricks. You'd think you'd be used to the shocks by now, but nope. Every time you get something great and lovely, he gives you something equally painful and sad. Shows today tries to be like this. Season 6 continues to hit hard.

[@Zaxbox]

That look on your face when the credits were rolling, we all had it. But at least you didn't have to wait until next week to see the following episode.

[@RitsychServare]

18:37 was my reaction throughout that Buffy-Spike scene and the Buffy-Tara getting SHOT one... I was speechless after that. And then I was like W.T.F. seriously? Yeah, this had to be the most painful episode to watch so far. I couldn't believe what I just saw. It's one of those things where I felt like yelling at whoever wrote this script ought to face that bullet that went through Buffy and Tara!! 🤬 But it had to be written in.

[@RickWeasel]

I remember watching it when it first aired thinking, hell yeah Amber is a regular finally! Then that last scene happens. 😭

[@evermoreisamasterpiece]

Your face when Tara got shot just broke my damn heart.

[@Logan_Baron]

Spike is cool and funny and interesting and such and has a chip in his head, so he fights on the side of the Scoobies sometimes, but he is still a soulless monster. We forget that, until we are reminded.

[@laughingman2060]

And i still hear that Buffy is a show for kids...

[@patrickcampbell45]

Ikr

[@fadedneverland6091]

I bought the first two seasons for my 62-year-old father for Christmas. Because we have very similar taste in TV and film and I recently watched (and LOVED) the series. Before he opened them, I told him, “I know you’ll think I’m crazy, but trust me. I know this is a show for kids but THIS IS NOT A SHOW FOR KIDS.”

[@stormnightmare4378]

@@fadedneverland6091 Why do people even think that Buffy is for kids? o.o The entire series is rated 16+ in Germany (where I'm from), so you wouldn't even be able to buy and watch it as a child.

[@fadedneverland6091]

@@stormnightmare4378 No idea. I would say maybe it’s because us Americans are edgier and have a higher tolerance but anyone who has ever watched a French horror movie knows that’s not true AT ALL. I avoided watching BTVS for years because it was a “campy 90’s kids show” but midway through season 2, I discovered this was absolutely not the case. I’m floored by how much they got away with as a cable TV show aimed at a younger audience. I’m even more floored by the things they DIDN’T get away with (just look up some of their scripts). This show was NOT afraid to push the envelope. Seriously, I lost count of how many torture scenes there were in the show and pretty much every character was kinky as hell. Heck, the character of Spike alone is a walking parental advisory warning.

[@Nicamon]

In Italy we have a way to determin the rate of movies and TV shows...green,yellow and red marks...the 🟢 means everybody can watch it,the 🟡 means kids must watch it with parents,the 🔴 means no kids allowed."Buffy"started as 🟡,then became 🟢 and finally 🔴.

[@danwiesdamageinc]

Yep, you are as observant as I thought..... you caught the sick joke during the opening credits - where Amber Benson was added in the episode Tara is killed. I know people who have watched the series a few times and never caught it. Joss Whedon giveth. Joss Whedon taketh away. As for Spike's attempted rape of Buffy: Spike and Buffy's sexual relationship was always rooted in violence. It was their foreplay, for the most part. Spike in an act of desperation went with what he knew - Buffy responds when he gets rough with her. Their relationship was never healthy. Tough to watch but it sets up the catalyst for Spike's venture to the far off land to make the deal.

[@stanklepoot]

Uh, maybe delete that last sentence?

[@circling-girl]

She's seen the entire season already.

[@Cleopatra7Philopator]

Joss wanted the death to be a Major Character, and "Officially" Amber wasn't. Granted at the last minute. Amber is in the Next Episode also, but not as "Tara".

[@TonUryuu]

i saw this when i was 13-14 years old and i was so shocked (aside joyce's death). ive been waiting for this reaction

[@lawrencewestby9229]

Shan, I only discovered your reaction videos a few days ago and have been binge watching them since. After seeing your reactions to five plus seasons of Buffy I could see how invested you became in the stories and the characters. This is the one episode I actually dreaded watching, not for what happened in the episode, I have seen it many times, but knowing how you would react and how hard it would be for you to experience the events within. I'm a 61 year old man who as I said have watched the entire series many times but I always tear up when watching Tara's death and did so even more as I watched your heartfelt reaction to it. I know it has been many months since this video was posted and I just hope the hurt you felt didn't last too long.

[@TabbyeLynne]

Watch Buffy they said It'll be fun they said

[@valinny8571]

Hugs to you Shan. I couldn't wait for you to watch this one and at the same time I dreaded it for you. Every time you say you loved Tara or the couple, I thought oh man, it's going to be that much harder for you when you see the end of Seeing Red. Even though it hurts, I'm glad you weren't spoiled for what happened. There are a number of scenes I always look forward to people watching during the seven seasons(lots of them are the shocking/ sad things that happen) but I have to say, Tara getting shot is the one I most want to see people's reaction, and I always get mad when someone gets spoiled about it. I don't know if anyone has followed the Mark Watches series on the internet, but he used to do reaction videos for the later season and Seeing Red was one of them, boy he flipped out when that bullet hit Tara. That was his favorite character and he lost it! The video isn't on KZbin or anywhere else I can find,but at the time, you could download it from his site so I did and I will never get rid of it. He also got very upset over the bathroom scene with Buffy and Spike. You can read his written review of Seeing Red here: markwatches.net/reviews/2012/08/mark-watches-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-s06e19-seeing-red/

[@aracelikiwrna5778]

Heartbreaking. Just HEARTBREAKING. I freaking HATE Warren. - Yvette

[@matthall113]

I still get full chills with the ending of this episode

[@obsidianshade9684]

Shan, you really need all of the hugs *hug*. I cried when I first saw this episode last year

[@cruman87]

Poor Shan, virtual hug.

[@Pumpkin3.14pi]

I have still only seen that bathroom scene once. I have to fast forward it every time I watch this episode now.

[@zoesmith12]

"oh! is that new?" yeah.. amber didnt want her credits in there until THIS episode..

[@alexmaster99100]

10:48..........yeah, me too, I had to compose myself after watching that.......something like attempted rape is still more terrifying than anything else we had seen

[@Rrknight2010]

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again. Your reaction to plot twists are priceless. I thought I was the only one that did that.

[@douglas2938]

To this day, I'll never forget the feeling on the back of my mind from the moment I saw Amber's name on the intro.

[@randomlibra]

I have no idea why I just watched you watch THAT scene again, but now I am crying. Thanks Shan :P LOL

[@subutaynoyan5372]

This is one of the episodes that's been written by Steven DeKnight. Who happened to produce Spartacus at the end of that decade. His style is always gritty and shocking and he really understands how to shake us with some crazy storytelling.

[@abel0002]

girl, imagine wait one week for the next chapter. i am so proud cause i saw it by tv.

[@RumplelpmuR]

Ok...you reacted like that the fist time you saw it. I react the same way every time i see this ep 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Polymathically]

I remember watching this when it first aired, but I didn't understand how disturbing it was until I saw it again when was much older. What makes that last scene with Tara so frightening is just how *real* it seems; all-powerful vampires and demons are scary, but fictional. Being attacked by a lone, raving lunatic with a gun is far, *far* more terrifying, because it could happen to any one of us. Also, James Marsters was so badly affected by that rape scene that he specifically put it into his contract that he'd never do anything like that again.

[@stargazer1682]

Oh man, I knew watching your previous videos and your reaction to Spike and Buffy (and Willow and Tara) how hard this episode was going to be for you, but your reaction was so heartbreaking.

[@theneverlandfairy4832]

Love your Buffy merch in the back. I LOVE your reactions.

[@alext9215]

After all these years it still hurts. This is more relevant now.

[@likeobvs]

Poor Tara! She deserved better! 😭

[@dannybolton6065]

Awesome A Yes. She did.

[@marceladiaz2020]

Yes!!

[@suncore598]

100% agree.

[@FuzzyDlop]

No, she didn't. She was a good character that served a great purpose in terms of character development(for WIllow) and storytelling. It's a great death, luckily not overplayed nor overdramatized.

[@Leafsdude]

@@FuzzyDlop Just like all gay characters in TV history up to then...

[@jacklegend5798]

Somehow this hurts even more now than the first time.

[@katiewhite190]

Your reaction was a lot like mine. I watched it the night it aired, was laying stomach down on the sofa and when she was shot I sat straight up & basically lost it. I felt a little sadistic watching this.

[@laurenmalone8335]

My sister turned me onto Buffy. I texted her one night after watching entropy and asked if I should continue on or stop because I had a class the next day. She said to wait cause something would happen that would want to make me keep watching. I checked it out the next day and I’m glad I waited cause I would have been up all night finishing up the season. I’m also glad no one was home when Tara got shot because I almost had a panic attack. RIP Tara, you and Willow should have been forever.

[@kindle9920]

Hugs all around for my BTVS fandom fam. This one hurts. I think we all feel similarly about Tara--her death was hugely shocking and devastating. "Your shirt" stays with many of us forever. The bathroom scene. For the actors, I hate that the writers put James and Sarah through such a scene. Both despised it, and James has spoken about the toll it took on his mental health. For the characters, I feel this was Spike's wake up call. He thought he could have a relationship with Buffy, but she understood that theirs was never a healthy romance. Compare soulless Spike to Angelus, who tortured the women he fixated on by killing their loved ones. Vampires can't love because they're inherently selfish. Once Angel regains his soul, we don't blame him for the actions the demon committed while inside his body. Nor do I blame William for Spike's actions. What Spike did was awful, period. The fact that he shows remorse, however, tells me that he's at least better than Angelus.

[@markusklemm4516]

It's not very often I see someone as shattered as you were. Last time I did, I spent several hours with them, helping them process. Last time I felt like that, I sobbed for a solid half hour. I wish you all the hugs.

[@antonnito9600]

ALL SEASON I cringed whenever you shipped your two favorite couples... for different reasons.

[@cirrustate8674]

Cringed because of this very episode.

[@alooncnej4696]

And the acting, in this particularly is excellent

[@TrevorMcNeil-e1y]

See? Jonathan actually is nice. He saves Xander from getting pulped, and tells Buffy how to defeat Warren. I think he only joined The Trio out of peer pressure and his heart was never really in evil. Also, the Tara shooting really did come out of nowhere but Joss Whedon is an a-hole worse than George R.R. Martin. Randomly and horribly killing and/or torturing the sweetest and most wonderful characters in any of his shows.

[@quinnsinclair7028]

Seeing red is a colloquial term for being so blinded by your emotions that you act impulsively. "I was so angry I saw red."

[@LordDarque]

yes. Joss Whedon is a demon who maintains his power by drinking from the tears of the viewers.

[@thomasdendtler4077]

I don't know why anyone would be surprised at that bathroom scene. It was inevitable. Evil. Soulless. Demon. Remember?

[@elizagaskell7957]

Just discovered your channel and discovered you are watching Buffy and you are going into the best of Buffy season....wahoo

[@NelsonVlog66]

I've also heard Sarah Michelle Gellar has yet to allow her and Freddie Prinze Jr.'s kids watch this episode because of the bathroom scene.

[@talynstarburst2l2l2l]

I think she ended the show with her kids on season 5 all together skipping season 6 and 7. I can understand why.

[@rogue42bdf]

Damn, I had forgotten how absolutely sudden and brutal that ending was.

[@Rachel-xu4br]

"How could he do this to me? He promised we'd be together, but he was just using me. He never really loved... hanging out with us." I never really paid attention this line when I was younger, but as an adult wow... I wonder what kind of private conversations they have together.

[@DeeDee97916]

I'm sure in the beginning it was genuine love that Spike felt for Buffy but, obviously it turned into a sick obsession!! 🤬 Poor Buffy couldn't get a break this season. 🥺 The ending of this episode had me bawling!! 😭😢

[@allis143]

Oh, and in the bathroom scene, when Spike says, "Great love is wild and passionate and dangerous. It burns and consumes." Sound familiar? That's because Plec took THAT line, paraphrased it, and it became Damon's line, "you want a love that consumes you. You want passion, adventure, and even a little danger." Of all the Spike lines/scenes to paraphrase, she HAD to go with a line from the bathroom scene. Nice job, JP.

[@lessismore8533]

I crazy cus I KNOW Spike doesn’t have his soul yet BUT this ep got tons of hate fan mail. I wish they gave Spike a different motivation to get his soul. He’s still MILES better than Angelus ever was. Angelus never felt remorse. Spike DID And don’t get me started with Tara’s death!