Governor Vs No-Governor Shootout On 2 Identical Mini Bikes! | Is It Worth It!

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Build Break Repeat

Build Break Repeat

Күн бұрын

In this video we bring back our Craigslist mini bikes for an epic comparison to truly answer the question of if you should remove the governor in your mini bike or not. To begin the video we did a preliminary drag race as well as a top speed run with both of the completely stock bikes, then after that we took them back to the garage in order to show you how to remove the governor as well as look for some ways to get some free power out of the harbor freight engine. After removing the governor, we put it back of the bike and re-did the tests, this time with it side by side the other orange bike so the true speed difference throughout the power band could be seen.
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@shlushe1050
@shlushe1050 3 жыл бұрын
To everyone planning on governor removal, would highly advise getting a billet flywheel. Those stock flywheels do explode when ungoverned
@dylew0893
@dylew0893 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard this is only an issue if you change the valve springs to stiffer springs, as at about 4800rpm or so the valves float and restrict really moving higher. I've heard this more than a few times on KZbin and forums however i have not removed mine yet to really see. I've got a predator 79cc and a Tecumseh h35 and will admit the flywheel on the h35 is alot more solid looking. may try with that.
@anonymousproductions1792
@anonymousproductions1792 2 жыл бұрын
And a new rod get a billet rod too
@t-rev-from-malibu
@t-rev-from-malibu 2 жыл бұрын
think itd have the power to screw the flywheel over ? jus a thought i had
@kingiument4627
@kingiument4627 Жыл бұрын
Been running mine for a year stock with governor bypassed, my clutch is burnt, my tires are bald, and my chain tensioner chewed itself in half. engine is perfectly fine
@corneliussianturi476
@corneliussianturi476 10 ай бұрын
@@anonymousproductions1792 Billet alumunium rod?? why not forged steel rod then, more robust and had High Fatigue range, not like alu does, easily fatigue cause it's was alu, even rod had silicon on it.
@ep0516
@ep0516 5 жыл бұрын
Is it worth it? Yes Coincidence? No Hotel? Trivago
@_kvngmilton_5522
@_kvngmilton_5522 5 жыл бұрын
Comment? Stolen
@_kvngmilton_5522
@_kvngmilton_5522 5 жыл бұрын
Nohh jp
@souljakilla1872
@souljakilla1872 5 жыл бұрын
My nigga
@shancyroesner9212
@shancyroesner9212 5 жыл бұрын
Subscribed? Notifications on.
@ep0516
@ep0516 4 жыл бұрын
@Chad Kunka fr lmao
@1darrious2tim
@1darrious2tim 6 жыл бұрын
Remove the governor. Put the 22 mukuni carb on it!!!! Tune pipe!!!! And go one chain system!!!! Hit 62 mph with a predator!!!!
@hezekiahjohnston8360
@hezekiahjohnston8360 5 жыл бұрын
CM .265" cam, 1.3 rockers on NON hemi engine= .345" lift at valve with 26# springs. that is the most lift some believe that does any good without RADICAL head work (welding/machining of head). port/smooth intake/exhaust, remove "step" from bowl to tract. dimple intake port like golf ball to keep flow turbulent to mix air/fuel going into motor. Billet rod as all is for naught if rod breaks and ruins motor. $65 for std, .020" or .040" longer BILLET ROD. extra jets for carb... to get light tan plug, not black plug from too much gas not enough fuel= backfire thru exhaust as unburned gas out exhaust pipe gets air and explodes, annoying. E 85... with A LOT BIGGER JETS as alchol doesn't have the BTU's of gas, methanol. that is hard on rubber parts and not recommended per sticker on the motor... NO E 85. a little 2 smoke oil in the gas to lubricate things better? 1:100 ratio?
@liltyee3709
@liltyee3709 5 жыл бұрын
What mini bike is that?
@hezekiahjohnston8360
@hezekiahjohnston8360 5 жыл бұрын
if going to open up the sidecover to do the gov removal... might as well have the $45 CM .265" lift cam ready to put in there, 26# springs ($8/pair), cut 3/8" off oil dipper on rod cap so it doesn't hit the bottom of the motor when u are SCREAMING the motor and break off the rod cap/ruins the motor. $65 for Billet rod isn't too bad though, have to have 12 Point 10 mm socket and HF $10 torque wrench (with coupon) oil on the threads and under the bolt head so don't get false torque readings when torqing the bolts/nuts to recommended torque. 17 ft /lbs is the torque for the side cover bolts and the head bolts... unless use head studs then 23 Ft/lbs of torque in a criss cross pattern. .009 head gasket, PORT the head STAY AWAY FROM VALVE SEATS!!!!!!!!! they are HARD... but not that hard. the ticket, some think, is the NON hemi head on the HEMI block and its flat top piston for better compression. the NON hemi head flows well enough, but ppl hear HEMI and think... WOOOOOO HOOOOO 1000 more HP!!!!! EVERYONE KNOWS THAT... but the WEDGE head is not a bad head on the NON hemi engine. on those mini bikes... they cum with 196cc engine... the STANDARD is the PREDATOR 212cc engine and that is what HOT ROD PARTS are available for to the MAX. the 196cc???? I don't know... I don't think it takes HEMI parts???? might take NON hemi parts... run it til it blows up and then get PREDATOR 212 @ HF with coupon for $107 OTD (out the door). break in for 3 hours on home made test stand out of 4- 2' long 1x1" legs and a 1' square table top out of plywood... with a shelf under it for tools/oil/parts/etc. change oil after 30 mins. several 5 minute easy runs to heat/cool cycles.... then gradually WIND IT UP... I could wait that long... before my fat finger was under the gas tank overriding the governor and the E bay tach was reading.... 5800.... 6000RPM's. but reading on karting.4cycle.com PREDATORS... ppl say that valves bounce off the seat at 5400 rpm and that is as fast as it will go with stock springs. they make 12.8# HD springs for a little more UMPH... or 12.8# (on the seat) springs 12.8i (improved) for stock karting applications that may or may not pass tech inspection. 22# springs for 6500 but max lift is .... .315" at valve? 26# springs max lift is ~ .415" @ valve but HARD to get the keepers in without that 3rd hand and arm to push down spring and get the keepers ON THE VALVE stem and not have the spring SHOOT the keepers... in your eye... across the room... never to be seen again... unless in ur eye. safety glasses are cheap, glass eyes and seeing eye dogs are generally cumbersome and don't work as well as ... normal eyes.
@killaz123456789100
@killaz123456789100 5 жыл бұрын
@@hezekiahjohnston8360 chill
@Nick-ip7ks
@Nick-ip7ks 5 жыл бұрын
hezekiah johnston you have too much time on your hands lol
@bobbyadamo152
@bobbyadamo152 4 жыл бұрын
So cool to see young guys doin what all my friends and I used to do in the 70s !
@matthewbalconi7093
@matthewbalconi7093 5 жыл бұрын
the comet torq-a-verter was the best mod i ever did to mine. you have variable gear ratios- which will make you faster (top speed) and quicker (acceleration). plus it keeps the engine under 3600rpm, and if you do any longer rides you can cruise in overdrive which is a lot more comfortable than screaming along at 4500rpm.
@elisnell7605
@elisnell7605 5 жыл бұрын
Lol you say 2011 is old I'm still running a four wheelers on a 1986 thoes things are immortal
@2strokesmoke857
@2strokesmoke857 5 жыл бұрын
Eli Snell see he’s truck
@marcodegiovanni9573
@marcodegiovanni9573 5 жыл бұрын
I got 3 1978 Yamaha three wheelers. They have never let me down and they’re a lot of fun
@billallen4793
@billallen4793 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcodegiovanni9573 the old 225cc ones or am I thinking of those black Kawasaki ones??
@marcodegiovanni9573
@marcodegiovanni9573 5 жыл бұрын
Bill Allen yea. All three are 225s
@oceanman7436
@oceanman7436 5 жыл бұрын
I've got an '89 warrior 350 and I love it
@phukyu1491
@phukyu1491 5 жыл бұрын
This dude would be the best ventriloquist ever!😎
@measurelessmotivation
@measurelessmotivation 5 жыл бұрын
Lol i died when he hit the jump after he started up his engine
@Jakerz007
@Jakerz007 5 жыл бұрын
Me too!!! He was whiskey throttle all the way lol
@josepena2024
@josepena2024 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao his mind went blink
@fullsendtv101
@fullsendtv101 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@karlg1535
@karlg1535 4 жыл бұрын
Legend
@williamsobkowicz6222
@williamsobkowicz6222 3 жыл бұрын
@@josepena2024 ¹
@GluteusMax777
@GluteusMax777 2 жыл бұрын
I must be favored by the small engine gods! I bent the throttle tab down, did the governor zip tie mod and put in a straight exhaust pipe. I get average 32 mph. And I'm short and fat af weighing about 225 lbs.
@tomwolf4609
@tomwolf4609 3 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is remove the rod from the carburetor to the governor rod..but be aware this engine is built to run at 3400 rpm max. So it may explode running without govenor.
@rilanphifer4372
@rilanphifer4372 2 жыл бұрын
If you come back to this please answer my question I got an old mini bike and I want to take the governor out of the engine would it still explode or is it just for the governor rod
@rilanphifer4372
@rilanphifer4372 2 жыл бұрын
@@sam66417 but what I was asking was when the engine it can get up to high RPMs which can cause parts to break and I could get things like valve flutter or the flywheel can break or just other parts can break because the engine can’t handle the speed and the RPM so I guess what I’m asking is there a way where I can do this for free without my engine falling apart and breaking
@julestrdprodjimavicpro2869
@julestrdprodjimavicpro2869 6 ай бұрын
These Mini Bikes are awesome on and off road! I just Love my TrailMaster Hurricane! stage 2 coming next weekend🥳
@ChannelZeroOne
@ChannelZeroOne 5 жыл бұрын
If you skip the cam gear up or back a tooth not sure, but it will make it a lot faster. Mark the 2 before you make the change. You will be surprised at the result.
@pterodox123
@pterodox123 5 жыл бұрын
I love the side by side comparison! Keep that one original to use it to compare after further mods!
@gamingwithscoob2433
@gamingwithscoob2433 3 жыл бұрын
@@everettstormy how would it granade?
@gazwoods7026
@gazwoods7026 3 жыл бұрын
Crack of thunder exactly when you took the oil bolt out , great video guys to 🇬🇧 ✊🏼
@mmhmmlala
@mmhmmlala 3 жыл бұрын
man, my trailmaster went 40 stock. that torque converter on the newer models really makes a difference.
@509minibikes
@509minibikes 2 жыл бұрын
how fast it go now?
@code23hyper44
@code23hyper44 5 жыл бұрын
Dude almost biffed that first ride 😂
@justaweeb9086
@justaweeb9086 4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting a cool shootout with a governor and a rebel but this works too
@Beemer917
@Beemer917 2 жыл бұрын
I went through a time where I was trying to figure out the same questions. How to have a carburetor to run under boost and a carburetor to run under atmospheric pressure. The whole solution of putting a carburetor in a can full of pressure works great but how to run without it. I finally came to the conclusion that it was much more complex than just figuring out how to run it with fuel injection. That was all on a old 1970 BMW motorcycle that I had a 1981 L engine in that was pretty trick. It put out about 100 horsepower unboosted but of course...
@ryandontlikeyou
@ryandontlikeyou 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even have to watch the whole video. That intro was a good enough selling point lol
@rocco3686
@rocco3686 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@G56AG
@G56AG 5 жыл бұрын
If you simply take out the governor and leave everything else stock, you will probably dramatically shorten the life of the engine. Quite a number of internal parts need to be changed out for the engine to survive the higher rpm. A brain is a terrible thing to waste, wear a helmet and strap it on properly, long pants and a long sleeve shirt and gloves are a good idea also, we have a saying in motorcycling, "All the gear, all the time", its good advice.
@valium4016
@valium4016 5 жыл бұрын
alex macy tuck n ROLL
@robspear03
@robspear03 5 жыл бұрын
Rod and flywheel are unecessary unless you are spinning 6 grand at the track continuously and are trying NOT to float the valves. Stop spreading misinformation.
@nativejuicevapors
@nativejuicevapors 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@lildad559
@lildad559 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao they aren't riding motorcycles tho and I've put down both sliding a mini bike isn't nowhere near as bad as sliding a motorcycle and you don't really need that much protection especially since mini bikes are severely underpowered
@vaultsoferowid
@vaultsoferowid 5 жыл бұрын
I thought this was America, where you are free to live your life how you see fit?
@manytrickpony695
@manytrickpony695 6 жыл бұрын
Dudes... more upgrades to come... this was simply an initial test to determine the difference between no governer vs governer. Found it interesting, looking forward to the next "small" step...
@simonallan9941
@simonallan9941 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't believe it 😲 taking the engine out, and apart ?? I'm thinking wtf all they had to do was disconnect the linkage from the carburetor to the gov and that's it, now it's a major to put it back to original if you don't want it to blow up, as the rev limiter stops the oil flying out too far and away from the big end bearing.
@ellisberry8747
@ellisberry8747 2 жыл бұрын
@@simonallan9941 so,thicker oil??
@woodroemitchell2848
@woodroemitchell2848 6 жыл бұрын
10 mph increase? If I had an engine I would certainly remove that bihh.
@doodlebug6833
@doodlebug6833 6 жыл бұрын
XD don't kid yourself, its not fine, its what you make it, truth is do you want to baby a 100 dollar engine for no reason because you got it for a 100 bucks or buy the extra 300 to 500 extra dollars to make a real bamf engine to take what ever amount of donuts or make some fast laps at the track
@robspear03
@robspear03 5 жыл бұрын
@mike stradling Just stop.
@robspear03
@robspear03 5 жыл бұрын
@@doodlebug6833 ...most likely id buy an actual Honda or an Animal. If im gutting a Predator 212cc engine for the sake of polishing a "turd", well, you get what you pay for. Rip out the gear, reroute the throttle and let the valves float be your warning system. Tell me one place to get non anecdotal evidence of grenaging flywheels. Ill wait.
@OnceUponASundayxxx
@OnceUponASundayxxx 5 жыл бұрын
Back in my day, we didn't wear helmets, we just go irreversible brain damage.
@DomesticBeats
@DomesticBeats 4 жыл бұрын
>in your profile pic and videos you're wearing a helmet
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
skin grafts are cool too.
@ianking.5721
@ianking.5721 4 жыл бұрын
Chad Kunka nah a helmet saved my life 2x
@ahwayzcool4630
@ahwayzcool4630 3 жыл бұрын
Drain Bramage!
@willtyler6
@willtyler6 2 жыл бұрын
Only if your a bad driver
@johnnyl7529
@johnnyl7529 5 жыл бұрын
man i had this same minibike i threw a gx160 on it and it was the fastest smoothest ride. sadly some scumfuck stole it last summer :(
@btefunnymanosama7417
@btefunnymanosama7417 5 жыл бұрын
What type of bike is it
@fullsendtv101
@fullsendtv101 4 жыл бұрын
That sucks who ever stole it must have been a real douche 😐
@CrashOutCatfishing
@CrashOutCatfishing 3 жыл бұрын
@@fullsendtv101 all theifs are douche.
@nollidelddik
@nollidelddik 2 жыл бұрын
I ride it everyday🤣
@juanorozco2487
@juanorozco2487 3 жыл бұрын
Gave that like kuzz you still hustling during midterms hope y’all doing well!
@marvicty
@marvicty 6 жыл бұрын
You guys removed the governor gear but did you leave the original governor arm and linkage?
@RoGuExPaNcAkE
@RoGuExPaNcAkE 5 жыл бұрын
Yes they did. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@michaelskagen1
@michaelskagen1 4 жыл бұрын
Leaving that linkege and arm in would be a good way to damage internal parts
@frigglebiscuit7484
@frigglebiscuit7484 4 жыл бұрын
they tied it back so it wouldnt move.
@angelmedina6390
@angelmedina6390 3 жыл бұрын
How would you have done it? Serious question. I Have a predator212 on a db30 that I'm considering removing the governor on.
@eddwiggins4383
@eddwiggins4383 4 жыл бұрын
That governor wasn't put there by some old man saying "Slow down!". It was put there so that the engine wouldn't rev higher than it was designed to. That extra 3 mph will greatly shorten the engines life.
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 4 жыл бұрын
That's not exactly a true statement. The governor is there as a means of automatic throttle control. It will react to changes in load at a fixed throttle position. Not allowing too high a rev is just a nice side note to their functionality. These engines were not designed for mini bikes and go karts. They are utility engines that are used to power equipment that do not have top speed and high RPM in mind. 3600 RPM has been a standard for decades and the engines are designed around that RPM. With the governor fine tuning screw you can set the governor to react at a multiple range of RPM values at full throttle including RPM higher than 3600. The governor will even react to a change in load at any fixed throttle position. It's not there for full throttle only. With the Honda designed throttle arrangement on these engines the governor is responsible for closing the throttle to idle at the moment of startup after the choke is manually opened. Yes, the governor does function at idle. The governors automatic operation is not very desirable in a variable throttle application like a mini bike or go karts where people want full control over their throttle. This full control allows higher RPM's than a governed engine would allow and is the reason people want to disable or remove them.
@scottbenzie7820
@scottbenzie7820 2 жыл бұрын
the governor Is there to meet epa grandfather standards. other bike like the yamaha tw 200 and the old Honda off road mopeds. they met minimum pollution standards in 1984. and because they've had no changes in motor design the do not have to comply with modern standards. and China does not give any fucks , and has been copying small Honda motors for 50 ÷ years
@weenfain2321
@weenfain2321 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted mine to last a long time and don’t have the parts to replace what’s necessary to remove the governor atm so I just did a quick little zip tie on the governor spring and muffler and got 11mph increase but I’m a 120 pound female which I’m sure makes a difference lol
@kingiument4627
@kingiument4627 Жыл бұрын
Nope im 170 and its the same for me here. Edit I just realized this comment was 2 years ago…
@st0n3p0ny
@st0n3p0ny 4 жыл бұрын
You gave your truck a guy's name? "Not there's anything wrong with that" -Seinfeld
@screemingturbo8806
@screemingturbo8806 5 жыл бұрын
Did you guys use the same connecting rod and valve springs?
@adrian-kr5fy
@adrian-kr5fy 5 жыл бұрын
Took the governor off my Coleman Ct100u. Keeps up with cars now!! 😁
@benderksen9455
@benderksen9455 4 жыл бұрын
I have a ct200u that does 60kmph with the governor off so how does a 100 keep up with cars?
@barrackobama6153
@barrackobama6153 4 жыл бұрын
@@benderksen9455 must be a slow car
@THEBOSS47MLG
@THEBOSS47MLG 4 жыл бұрын
Cardi B he probably isn’t testing his CT100 on the highway
@markcollins5026
@markcollins5026 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I removed the engine, now my Coleman goes over 100mph, with the brake on !
@gamerflop101
@gamerflop101 4 жыл бұрын
I took the governor out of my coleman ct200u and now it wants to take off on it own. Does anyone know how to fix it?
@perfectfan2006
@perfectfan2006 5 жыл бұрын
thanks i learned lots good job young men
@preventec47
@preventec47 5 жыл бұрын
The new MegaMoto 212 Pro series bike has hydraulic disk front and rear brakes ! They reportedly work well. That is mind blowing ! This will increase the stopping power by 300 percent ! There is nothing ever that could so dramatically affect safety. I would say it will reduce stopping distances to one third or less of the back wheel only drum brake. SO the big question is: IS the Chinese source of the MegaMoto the same as the old MiniBaha and if so there is a very good possibility that the front forks interchange in dimension and fit etc. This means a half million of the Mini Baja bikes sold in the last 15 years could be converted to include at least include the added feature of hydraulic front brakes added. I believe the current incarnation of the Mini Baja is called the TrailMaster but not absolutely sure they have the same source. It just looks very much like they share parts.
@jeremibisher5611
@jeremibisher5611 6 жыл бұрын
Man after watching that I should start making KZbin videos lol my Baja warrior has a 420cc a Polaris sportsman clutch and a Harley sportster tank.
@BeatersRus
@BeatersRus 5 жыл бұрын
you caught my attention with the polaris sportsman clutch.. can you tell me more? im assuming these are for 1 inch cranks yes? a real clutch would make many projects/toys possible..and ty in advance. Also tech tip for you builders,old >plastic dirt bike gas tanks< fit the baja warrior frames Quite Nicely and look good too.
@NicsElectronics
@NicsElectronics 5 жыл бұрын
Used to have a straight pipe on my mini bike back in the day....good times.
@headlessproductions8908
@headlessproductions8908 2 ай бұрын
i haven’t heard andrew apple pie in a video in so long that was unexpected. good music choice lol
@oneofthemodels
@oneofthemodels 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys new subscriber glad I found your channel enjoyed it I want to get me another mini bike now that I'm 63 years old LOL
@conracewhatever5224
@conracewhatever5224 4 жыл бұрын
Go go go!!!!!
@cgwkg8436
@cgwkg8436 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 67 and I love mine. Hitting 40mph on any minibike feels like 60mph. The most fun you can have with your clothes on ☺️
@rik4369
@rik4369 5 жыл бұрын
You young guys are so talented and have bright future at whatever you choose. From the old Marine " Put on a brain bucket" . And that is an ORDER!!! Great work!!!
@hezekiahjohnston8360
@hezekiahjohnston8360 5 жыл бұрын
REAL MEN DONT WEAR HELMETS!!!!!!!! til they are in nursing home with traumatic brain injury and don't know anything... then the nurses put a helmet on them so they wont hurt..... what little there is left of their brain after the head hits the pavement at 30mph++++
@royalunboxer5268
@royalunboxer5268 6 жыл бұрын
That was a sick ass intro keep up with the good work.
@dennischeslock7782
@dennischeslock7782 6 жыл бұрын
taking out governor there's a chance that the cam gear can shatter at high speed because it's plastic
@adamfisher4049
@adamfisher4049 6 жыл бұрын
Not all of them are plastic.
@JosephRMStapleton
@JosephRMStapleton 6 жыл бұрын
Add 18 pound value springs
@doodlebug6833
@doodlebug6833 6 жыл бұрын
still dont want to be floating those valve springs, btw its valve not value
@flhusa1
@flhusa1 6 жыл бұрын
you can explain it to them but you can't make them understand it!
@dennischeslock7782
@dennischeslock7782 6 жыл бұрын
Look at the cam gear in this motor was plastic ,,,,,,,,, stock has a plastic ,,,,,, hemi has steel
@michiganmagneto
@michiganmagneto 5 жыл бұрын
Torque converter will fix that low speed snail acceleration. Better yet, go to Harbor Freight and put one of those 22 horsepower V-twins on it with a real gas tank. There's another bike similar to that one, I think it's called the monster dog. Same set up but it has rear suspension, luggage rack, single down tube up front. I've always wanted one of these bikes but I would modify it by installing a rear drum brake system on the front. Might as well go all out and install a headlight, tail light, brake light, mirror, and turn signals, stretch out the frame to make a 2 seater with that V twin motor, a little larger diameter tires. Go crazy.
@kevinvandeford5562
@kevinvandeford5562 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought the governor was that idle screw on the carb lol
@sahibdipsandhu
@sahibdipsandhu 3 жыл бұрын
dude that thing hauls ass. Gotta do this to my Coleman powersport
@johnhalchishick6557
@johnhalchishick6557 5 жыл бұрын
My brother-in-law got a new little bike for his very young son.With a adult 200# it would do maybe 5mph.First we PULLED the exhaust pipe off.we found a washer that limited air flow we removed it.That got it up to 9 10 mph.THEN we pulled the gas line it also had a brass insert reducing gas flow.We removed that also.JUST removing those to parts and it topped out at 15mph.
@craigslist157
@craigslist157 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could post pics of my upgraded Hawg Ty, which is very similar mini bike. I enjoyed the upgrading process so much I hand build a drag bike mini bike with wheelie bars and Hoosier drag slick....thing will straight up fly down the strip
@teslamodhammer
@teslamodhammer 3 жыл бұрын
I got a doodle bug with a gx390 this has convinced me to do this
@Obnoxious_Dad
@Obnoxious_Dad Ай бұрын
Living that dorm life with that box of tissue lol 😂💪🏾
@h0ldmybull3t16
@h0ldmybull3t16 3 жыл бұрын
Did you change the oil in the other one that could be a factor also
@melvinhunt6976
@melvinhunt6976 5 жыл бұрын
In.The 60s, my brother had a mini bike. 28 miles an hour with governor, 38 miles an hour without! 38 miles an hour on a mini bike is a little scary.they absolutely would Not Stop!
@greghorn7650
@greghorn7650 6 жыл бұрын
You left the governor arm on the motor that's what we hear rattling around. You should have cut it off and bolted up the hole. It's dangling inside the motor and is going to either brake off, or damage the gearing.
@carsonmeyers5095
@carsonmeyers5095 5 жыл бұрын
That’s the chain
@nitroman365
@nitroman365 5 жыл бұрын
You're both wrong. It is the chrome cap on the fake gas tank. 11:45. You can see it flopping about and thr noise lines up with its movements.
@BigMacProDaddy
@BigMacProDaddy 5 жыл бұрын
We don't need no stinking helmets! Please be safe, ICU sucks. Cool truck, bikes, and video. I removed the plastic clip from my 9.9 hp Tohatsu outboard that I used to power my 11 meter Sillenger rhib and my 24' 1963 Columbia Challenger sailboat. the 15hp and 9.9 are the same, however, the 9.9 has a plastic piece, that prevents the motor from gaining an additional 400 rpm that the 15hp(same motor) has. As you can imagine, a 50% increase in power is super awesome.
@kiheirc3195
@kiheirc3195 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video you guys should definitely try to go power sports stage one my Coleman with the torque converter and stage one goes 46 mph all I did was zip tied the governor spring though again thanks guys have fun be careful
@jessemeade87
@jessemeade87 5 жыл бұрын
Did you buy a new gasket? im guessing there is a 50/50 chance the gasket breaks when you take it apart, even when new. What is the best method you all use for that? gasket sealer?
@THEMASTEROFYOU2000
@THEMASTEROFYOU2000 5 жыл бұрын
if you wanna haul ass on those things jb weld that slipper clutch solid, make a handlebar kill switch first tho, ain't entirely crazy..lol
@immrnoidall
@immrnoidall 5 жыл бұрын
why not just disconnect the governor. we used to do it to the go carts when the guy was distracted.
@kylewood5233
@kylewood5233 4 жыл бұрын
Worked at a gocart track in highschool and after hours would get drunk and stoned with friends and hit the track and cranked the governers all the way up. They found out after someone *cough* slid one through a fence at 40 mph and people were called. Obviously got the boot. Found out later they just spot welded those fuckers lower than the originally ran them, then people stopped going because they were slow asf. Place closed down less than a year later. Moral of the story? TURN UP THAT FUCKIN GOVNA'!
@gamerflop101
@gamerflop101 4 жыл бұрын
I took the governor out of my coleman ct200u and now it wants to take off on it own. How to fix this problem?
@amanteapasionado6836
@amanteapasionado6836 5 жыл бұрын
My mini bike when i was a kid went 35 mph. I was 10-12 when i had it,2 998 so i would have been way lighter so that would explain the couple mph difference. Idk if the gov was taken off it by the people i bought it from but id did go faster than my go kart with the same engine. And i did blow it up once having it wide open rippin down the train tracks for a long distance, it seized up on me. Back than i didnt know anything about a gov but lookin back on it now, i dont think it had one. Shit, i even used fishing string as the throttle cable lol. Run about 4 or 5 strands of high test thru the cable housing and you got yourself a cheap diy throttle cable. It does wear down and break, but it will last a long time. If it does break run more strands than previously before.
@cammm15yt74
@cammm15yt74 5 жыл бұрын
Amante Apasionado thanks for the info
@Bill-Rocker
@Bill-Rocker 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea to take the time to compare and post.
@kentuckyoff-roadjunky9273
@kentuckyoff-roadjunky9273 6 жыл бұрын
Add tourqe converters and put in a 12$ set of valve springs
@rustybeatty6567
@rustybeatty6567 5 жыл бұрын
Removing the governor system will give more power but you should build the motor to be stronger on the internal parts like crankshaft gears and cams lifters push rods rocker arms connecting rod and piston and piston rings and a lighter flywheel to help prevent engine damage and use 15w-40 engine oil with Lucas oil stabilizer to better lubricant the engine with that much higher RPM’s.
@robspear03
@robspear03 5 жыл бұрын
All irrelevant. Its not a GX160/200 or a Briggs Animal. Its a Chinesium clone that cost $100. Valves will float at or around 5500 rpms, sounds like a high speed misfire, meaning its time to get off the gas. Conrods fail from incorrect oil levels. Flywheels......show me where one turned to shrapnel and ill buy ya a beer.
@DaveDuzzit
@DaveDuzzit 5 жыл бұрын
Is it worth it? At first yes. Then the OEM valve springs wear, float, and full send your valve into the piston.
@officialjamescharleshatecl4990
@officialjamescharleshatecl4990 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed however predator engines are cheap so if it last for a while and they get their use out of it, it may be worth it
@code23hyper44
@code23hyper44 5 жыл бұрын
Anything can break really. They last if they aren’t running at high rpms, but things just rattle apart otherwise.
@DaveDuzzit
@DaveDuzzit 5 жыл бұрын
Mini Bike Madness that is definitely the solution. The people watching the video that don’t know that should probably be informed though. It’s also recommended to replace the piston rod, and get a carb build kit with a new main jet. More valve tension adds resistance to the cam/crank and requires more fuel/air to run higher rpms within a proper air/fuel ratio.
@chucklundborg8485
@chucklundborg8485 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dudes , been debating on removing the Governor on my kids mini , that helped a lot , peace and be safe my bro’s
@Bill-bi7sk
@Bill-bi7sk 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you have a billet rod and flywheel with heavier valve springs
@tyler238
@tyler238 5 жыл бұрын
@2:27= knarly ball smash💥
@OcotilloTom
@OcotilloTom 3 жыл бұрын
Good job. I went from 18 to 36 mph on my 2021 Coleman CT200-EX by switching the stock centrifugal clutch to a 30 series torque converter from Go Power sports. No other changes made to the stock engine and I weight 212 lbs.
@micahjohnson1855
@micahjohnson1855 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, get you a torque converter, be doing 50. And the. Hi 200ex is perfect for it cause a torque converter will mount easy
@Proto2011Rail
@Proto2011Rail 2 жыл бұрын
Predator motor or stock 196?
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
@@Proto2011Rail That doesn't matter. Both engines get about the same top speed on the Colemans with a torque converter.
@garyburbank8895
@garyburbank8895 4 жыл бұрын
What Clutch you Running? If they Don't already have a Torque Converter Belt Drive you need to Go that route it makes a huge difference my baja warrior has a Torque Converter Belt Drive and both mine and my brothers have the governor unhooked my brothers runs 40 45 mine runs 65 70 governor unhooked and belt drive mine wicked fast takes off doing a wheelie walk you'll love the belt drive
@jwalkerftw
@jwalkerftw 3 жыл бұрын
Make a full video how to take the governor out
@hezekiahjohnston8360
@hezekiahjohnston8360 5 жыл бұрын
got side cover off might as well put in a CM 265" cam, 1.3 rockers on NON hemi engine, 26# springs, longer BILLET ROD to see 6500RPMs+ header with scooter muffler, bigger jet in (390cc) carb (depending on elevation, check plug... black plug =too much gas/not enough air=wasted gas), light tan plug is what we are looking for. white plug is too lean/runs hot/burns up motor. port head with dremel grinder and 80 grit sanding drums to open up intake/exhaust port and ease valve bowl to intake tract "Step" so air flows free. NON hemi head doesn't seem to run into coil bind with the coils being compressed to MAX and breaking valve/retainer and dropping valve into the motor... ruining the motor. 26# springs good for ~.425" lift? 22# springs good for ~.325" lift? depending on casting as all are a lil different. BILLET rod .020" oversize ? to get piston to 0 deck height. .009 Head gasket (stock on NON hemi engine) so have ~.030" piston to head clearance. Billet flywheel if expect over .... 5500 RPMs? $120 for a flywheel for $100 motor???? epoxy magnet and holder to the flywheel so magnet doesn't fly out /off like a bullit... but 5.x # flywheel exploding cant be good to anyone within 100'+++ . 3/16" plate steel tween motor and operator? HEMI engine with HIGH LIFT cams might run into piston because of canted valves on HEMI, less of a problem with NON hemi engine which many believe is a better head than the HEMI head? who wud have thought?
@DrFoo-mi6nr
@DrFoo-mi6nr 6 ай бұрын
Bruh I know this was 5yrs ago are you still around?I got one these and had the gov out in a couple days I have wheelied over on it and landed on my back 3 times now there's a lot of mid range torque and I would hit a bump on purpose to try a wheelie and it would just keep coming like a tractor learned this is not a wheelie machine the hard way 😂
@ReelRadical
@ReelRadical 3 жыл бұрын
At the start of the video I heard “ supgy wshow remgiv gee roo minibike”
@James6fohh
@James6fohh 3 жыл бұрын
Bro this comment had me dead
@jasonchitwood7436
@jasonchitwood7436 13 күн бұрын
In my personal opinion removing the governor only increases top speed. As far as overall performance you just can't get beat having a governor. A governor gives full throttle it only back's off at higher speeds. Imagine having a riding mower without a governor Lol it would be horrible especially when it was in high Grass and your governor wasn't doing throttle control it would probably choke out you'd think It would have more power without a governor but that's not the case. Now if you we're building a race engine that you are gonna be running full throttle and near top speeds it would be great but anytime your trail riding etc I think you'll be surprised of the overall performance with the governor hooked up. Also unless you can adjust a governor and know anything about spring tension and it's affects you would be wasting your time trying to argue the matter.
@ceciljones4491
@ceciljones4491 5 жыл бұрын
Good vid. Its the same on any small motor that has it removed or bypassed
@mingusbreeze
@mingusbreeze 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, guys nice comparison video.
@TheTallRaver
@TheTallRaver 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Thanks
@jtamsett
@jtamsett 6 жыл бұрын
I do not understand the deal about taking out the governor just hook up the throttle cable directly to the carburetor and go for it. Wtf.
@Uscfan8510
@Uscfan8510 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Tamsett not how that works
@1darrious2tim
@1darrious2tim 6 жыл бұрын
10 mph more
@123jamesiscool
@123jamesiscool 6 жыл бұрын
Because the governors usually break apart inside at high rpms if you don’t take them out
@matthewgray1115
@matthewgray1115 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on whether you want shrapnel in your crank case or not🤔
@PucketyCrik
@PucketyCrik 4 жыл бұрын
Why don't you just disconnect the external governor arm and linkage?
@stevemoilanen3464
@stevemoilanen3464 4 жыл бұрын
Because then the rod would be loose, and free to contact the crankshaft. The arm/linkage assembly holds the rod against the governor gear which in turn holds the gear in place. Those pieces all work together and must be removed together.
@bassmafiavlogs7430
@bassmafiavlogs7430 5 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice he seemed a little smashed in the beginning???? lmao 🤣
@stormtaker63
@stormtaker63 6 жыл бұрын
The govenor stops the engine from over speeding. Once the engines starts overspeeding, the engine will start sucking the engine oil into the valves and into the engine. And there goes your engine with the aluminum rods
@SirHumboldt
@SirHumboldt 2 жыл бұрын
lol nah
@JoesGoldenGarage
@JoesGoldenGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a UGA boy but my Texas cuz is an Aggie so y’all good people. Good stuff. Just subbed
@johnchassie-rideout4927
@johnchassie-rideout4927 6 жыл бұрын
Hey guys check out red beards vid on removing the governor. He has a neat trick to make getting it out quick and easy. By knocking out the governor gear pin that it spins on. Also a 1/4 inch bolt will self tap into the governor arm hole and the governor gear pin hole.
@ploprod8021
@ploprod8021 4 жыл бұрын
damn, you gave the gasket a good run for its money!
@nollidelddik
@nollidelddik 2 жыл бұрын
Right off the bat dude almost eats shit!🤣
@HeyDude93gt
@HeyDude93gt 5 жыл бұрын
We used a string tied to our governor for short burst on our go karts when neighbors would chase us
@gabriellentz2516
@gabriellentz2516 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, my stock 1979 Honda Z-50 Mini Trail goes 34mph. But nice job.
@joshsrcs
@joshsrcs 5 жыл бұрын
You don’t gain HP by removing a governor you gain speed because the engine already has the power to make that speed
@coby4482
@coby4482 Жыл бұрын
higher RPMS create more HP. the engine is rated at 6.5hp.... at 3600rpms, if you're spinning faster than that, youre getting more HP. a.k.a removing the governor does gain HP...
@aaronmontero3406
@aaronmontero3406 4 жыл бұрын
What handle bars did you guy put on these bikes?
@josepena2024
@josepena2024 4 жыл бұрын
Im trying to find out to
@scottphillips2420
@scottphillips2420 4 жыл бұрын
it would be nice if you could do a comparison with every part you put in,in miles per hour,even a high-performance spark plug.
@toby4355
@toby4355 5 жыл бұрын
Is taking off the governor bad for the engine?
@mattb.2359
@mattb.2359 5 жыл бұрын
Toby 43 Yes. It governs how high the engine can rev, kinda like a car rev limiter. If you take the limited out, the engine can rev higher, but also cause damage. If this mod is done, install stiffer valve springs keep
@simonallan9941
@simonallan9941 4 жыл бұрын
It's designed as a rev limiter to prevent the oil from flying out too far and away from the bearings and oil pickup for top end and also it has all its torque below that anyway 😉 better off just gearing it up for higher top speed.
@floridahobo3698
@floridahobo3698 4 жыл бұрын
You can bypass the govenor with a small piece of speaker wire without pulling the whole motor apart.
@Shady12708
@Shady12708 5 жыл бұрын
My neighbor has one of those and it does 30mph stock
@maniacalmonster2293
@maniacalmonster2293 3 жыл бұрын
3 yrs late to it but was really hoping for more detail info about removing the governor..
@homefrontv2.064
@homefrontv2.064 4 жыл бұрын
i compared racing fuel and premium full and the racing fuel made it more fun I ran it all stock and it increased the horsepower a little bit
@andrewgarcia3136
@andrewgarcia3136 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you increase compression or advance the spark timing there is no point in using a higher octane fuel
@nicholasagnew2792
@nicholasagnew2792 5 жыл бұрын
With 212cc you should go twice that fast, those bikes need a second gear
@kenshi600
@kenshi600 5 жыл бұрын
My 50 cc minibike goes that fast stock. Granted am only 100 pounds
@ricksmotorizedbikeprojects9572
@ricksmotorizedbikeprojects9572 3 жыл бұрын
Are they 79cc or 212cc?
@SonnyGTA
@SonnyGTA 5 жыл бұрын
That pick up is awesome!!
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
dude i know i'm way late. tape the cell to the bars, use your whole hand. And as a guy whos been riding about 45 yrs wear crash protection,. Min jeans gloves helmet skin grafts not fun.. My opinion nothing more. Great info vid no extra bs included . I'm really trying to find one of these.
@kevingoon2747
@kevingoon2747 4 жыл бұрын
good job on the bikes where could i find those handlebars and risers or extenders on them
@fan1701
@fan1701 6 жыл бұрын
Come on guys, wear those helmets!!! Road rash is no joke!!
@wyattlarrick3246
@wyattlarrick3246 6 жыл бұрын
Nor is a fractured skull!
@wiley0714
@wiley0714 6 жыл бұрын
Why worry, you foresee anything remarkable coming from either one of these individuals?
@robertcole7874
@robertcole7874 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone is so worried about safety now. Not one person in our entire country that's over 30 used a helmet growing up. And we're all still here. To this day I still ride dirt bikes and four wheelers without a helmet and am still alive. Just tuck and roll bro
@wyattlarrick3246
@wyattlarrick3246 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertcole7874 Try rolling into a telephone pole without a helmet or tree at 30 mph.
@robertcole7874
@robertcole7874 5 жыл бұрын
@@wyattlarrick3246 I've done much worse and am still here. How about you try to find your sack and see if it has anything in it.
@thatonecarkid442
@thatonecarkid442 5 жыл бұрын
Is the orange truck a 1969 Chevy c10
@ryze6726
@ryze6726 4 жыл бұрын
My ct100 goes 42 and I haven't touched the governor yet, cost like 50 cents for the spring I used
@MybackHurtz1
@MybackHurtz1 6 жыл бұрын
Do TAV vs a clutch next !
@robspear03
@robspear03 5 жыл бұрын
Both suck.
@albertjenkins8121
@albertjenkins8121 5 жыл бұрын
I want your truck! An love the mini bikes I'd do valve springs torque converter an cam header an carb an intake on them both an maybe change your gears just a lil bit
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