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Predator 212cc Stage 1 With Dyno Results ~ The Road to Horsepower Ep1

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Red Beard's Garage

Red Beard's Garage

Жыл бұрын

Today is the very first episode of The Road to Horsepower!!! In this episode we test a stock Predator 212cc Hemi engine stock vs stage 1. Stage one consist of a new carb jet, air filter adapter, air filter, and exhaust. We test it on a mini bike and on the dyno. Check out the links below and like, comment, and subscribe to keep this series coming!!!
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@TheShepard5348
@TheShepard5348 Жыл бұрын
Loud pipes save life's --- Jesus Christ saves soul's --- but ------------ mufflers make horse power. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
@jeanlawson9133
@jeanlawson9133 Жыл бұрын
AIN'T IT JUST AIN'T IT 😎
@fish_R_stinky69
@fish_R_stinky69 Жыл бұрын
@@thehemiolds455 False. If you make the straight pipe longer, it will make MORE power than the muffler.
@RC_Trailblazers
@RC_Trailblazers Жыл бұрын
Back pressure and exhaust scavenging are real things. Having a little bit of back pressure in either a longer pipe or even in this case a muffler causes a small vacuum between the strokes in the pipe and head when the exhaust valve opens and the exhaust gasses are forced out. That little vacuum helps pull more of the burnt gasses from the cylinder head allowing the next combustion cycle to burn cleaner and make more power since there is more clean air and less burnt air if you will. To much back pressure can hurt performance though too. Hence why millions of dollars go into R&D when building a high performance engine.
@Spacecruizer203
@Spacecruizer203 Жыл бұрын
My bike is faster when I add the wd40 homemade can on but with the 3stage from go powersports go on get u a d battery maglight hollow it out pop it on and man u will have alot more deeper power then I messed around at the electric department at home depot scored me a trumpet attachment from the light lamp section it really makes it faster now too on the cheap
@fish_R_stinky69
@fish_R_stinky69 Жыл бұрын
@@jeanlawson9133 Mufflers don't make horsepower.
@lizzard7473
@lizzard7473 Жыл бұрын
The world needed this. Thank you for this build.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@chickenlittle5916
@chickenlittle5916 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@mikesbarn1858
@mikesbarn1858 Жыл бұрын
The whole concept is awesome. Helps everyone decide how far they want to go. This may be your best series yet.
@warpedangel20
@warpedangel20 Жыл бұрын
This will be the true game changer. I won't be able to get enough of this.
@cupwalker24.7
@cupwalker24.7 Жыл бұрын
Harbor freight has kept a ton of lady's and gentleman on the track and on the road for many years !! And that deserves more than tons of respect.... Without these engines alot of people's dreams would not be able to be accomplished in life .
@billbalke7572
@billbalke7572 Жыл бұрын
I love what you do !!! Saves alot of us from the expensive mistakes and helps us get it right the first time. Thanks to your sponsors for helping you out ...
@devivoman
@devivoman Жыл бұрын
For sure this needed to happen, you have been showing a true talent with your build and fabrication quality on KZbin for some time now, I'm glad that you will be delivering this content. Thank you for bringing it to us.
@michealarburn9861
@michealarburn9861 Жыл бұрын
It's the most fantastic idea for a series ever! I didn't have four wheelers or dirt bikes growing up I was fortunate enough to have a pile of yard carts. I always built traded and swapped trying to squeeze more power from them. It will be amazing to see the before and after results of all the types of stuff I used to do. I will be here for every one of these.
@TheFastKart
@TheFastKart Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Finally, we've got a guy that's providing the straight-up no bull scoop on what works and what doesn’t. Thank you RB and thank you Aimsoil for making it possible. Can't wait for more of this!
@miketee2444
@miketee2444 Жыл бұрын
This is a fairly simple idea that I'm sure many have wondered the answers to. Many have wondered that actually had the equipment and means to find answers. You are just the one that took the time to plan the tests and gather what is needed to get data. Thanks, it's not a lazy man's game for sure. I always knew y'all had it going in the right direction.
@Thorbrook
@Thorbrook Жыл бұрын
That's awesome. Can't wait for the next one. It's definitely my new fav series
@JCTEAM60
@JCTEAM60 Жыл бұрын
This series is going to be awesome. Great idea to show what effects these actual upgrades have.
@chipbruner2412
@chipbruner2412 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job RB and crew! Awesome way to start a series!
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thank you for supporting!
@jasongrinnell1986
@jasongrinnell1986 Жыл бұрын
Wow! What a game changer. Love seeing the results with the modified parts.
@Goblingimp
@Goblingimp Жыл бұрын
just wanted to say i love your channel every video is so clean and professional
@devenbelanger8463
@devenbelanger8463 Жыл бұрын
I love this series. Great work. Educational and informative.
@sethgarrett1994
@sethgarrett1994 Жыл бұрын
Love what you're doing brother I'm glad to see you guys doing this the right way with a good reliable dyno
@Logic44
@Logic44 Ай бұрын
11:07 That dyno recreated the downhill pops almost perfectly lol
@DangOldHillBilly
@DangOldHillBilly Жыл бұрын
GOOD STUFF. Can not wait to see the Predator 224. Excellent job guys.
@lloydbaker7099
@lloydbaker7099 Жыл бұрын
Great addition to the channel
@seansysig
@seansysig Жыл бұрын
RBG awesome series! Can’t wait for next video in he series.
@brianking1138
@brianking1138 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I am looking forward to the rest of them.
@DanielTD2
@DanielTD2 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, can’t wait to see the full build!
@clayhunna7357
@clayhunna7357 Жыл бұрын
Great series look forward to seeing the figures on a big block. thnx RBG an team
@johnmattinson3513
@johnmattinson3513 Жыл бұрын
You should make a score board like the British top gear used to do but with hp numbers instead of lap times. You should include engine cost and stage. Like first would be, stock 212 $129 6.5 hp, Then 212 stage one $200 9 hp. You could add to it every episode.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
I will do that sir. Thanks for the idea. Ill give you a shout out when we do that!
@a1racer441
@a1racer441 Жыл бұрын
I liked this shows a very clear with numbers and real world test before and after.
@OGTtom
@OGTtom Жыл бұрын
Great information Greg , thank you , will definitely watch the next video .
@jeffreypowell3427
@jeffreypowell3427 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video, and thanks for investing in the dyno, it’s good to finally be able to see some numbers on these parts.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
Big thanks to Mark for the dyno. Its a game changer for sure.
@051570orion
@051570orion Жыл бұрын
I like all the videos you do but these tutorial/instructional videos are really good
@jonsiglar2505
@jonsiglar2505 Жыл бұрын
Great idea and series.
@shark11175
@shark11175 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Editing and Video!
@kainthepain7126
@kainthepain7126 Жыл бұрын
Love this series can't want for the next
@CODOutdoors
@CODOutdoors Жыл бұрын
It is awesome to see the real results, thanks for sharing!
@davidperryman1759
@davidperryman1759 Жыл бұрын
I love this series… I’ve always wondered just what performance differences there are with each stage of performance mods! Thanks guys, y’all are great! Keep up the good work
@davidperryman1759
@davidperryman1759 Жыл бұрын
I don’t have telegram
@james10739
@james10739 Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect that much of a difference
@jonathanzimmerman2976
@jonathanzimmerman2976 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait till you get everything possible done to it and see the numbers enjoy your show Merry Christmas and God bless
@Charles-bj7qu
@Charles-bj7qu 8 ай бұрын
I do appreciate everything you do.
@charlesgraham9954
@charlesgraham9954 Жыл бұрын
sweet.! iv been waiting for a channel to do this, I'm glad its u RBG.
@downtoearthconstruction7768
@downtoearthconstruction7768 Жыл бұрын
Well as Martha Steward would say about the muffler removal, “Back Pressure, It’s a Good Thing” 😆
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thats what a muffler shop has told me for years. Guess they was right!
@danf4616
@danf4616 Жыл бұрын
Stage 1 Speed Gains are actually: 0 - 35 ---> 20.1%, 0 - 39 ---> 33.5% Still pretty darn good! 👍👍
@sfeather7088
@sfeather7088 Жыл бұрын
Really Fun Too Watch!
@CastleBravo187
@CastleBravo187 Жыл бұрын
I've got a Pred 212cc sitting new in the box in my garage, I'm looking forward to this series!!!
@rednecksdoitbetter491
@rednecksdoitbetter491 Жыл бұрын
Me and my cuz always talk about power gains from different kits and we can finally see the truck thanks brother
@donduck6195
@donduck6195 Жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes!!! This is what I've been waiting for. I know you're going to be doing lots of other Dyno tuning, but if you are taking requests... I would love to see a dyno shootout between a gx390, predator 420, Duramax 440, and predator 459. Stock / stage 1 for all of them. I would love to know if the Honda is underpowered and if the Duramax makes their claimed HP etc. Keep up the badass videos
@cjsexton5380
@cjsexton5380 Жыл бұрын
Ya this is the best video for the small engine community in awhile
@daevincaldwell3201
@daevincaldwell3201 Жыл бұрын
I’m getting into this small engine world coming from v8 mustang engines. This series is matching exactly what I will be doing through these next few months. I’ll be stopping at stage 3 with a non-hemi 212 similar to your “billet everything” video you’ve posted before. Can’t wait to see the results! I’ll be subscribed and watching all of them!
@CodyPowell-oe4pj
@CodyPowell-oe4pj Жыл бұрын
ive been waiting for a series of videos like this to come out. simple concept but very good idea considering ive yet to see anyone els try to cover it. RBG is the shiii so ill be lookin forward to the next
@gregswafford9839
@gregswafford9839 Жыл бұрын
Great video, look forward to upcoming videos showing progress on these builds. Real world numbers never lie, thanks for sharing the info. This makes me want to ditch my shorty header and try a longer header pipe.
@tommybally03
@tommybally03 Жыл бұрын
Finally a no BS way to see what each modification does! Absolutely what we (your viewers) wanted! I would ask the you please consider running a test tube (exhaust with bung and wide band 02 sensor) to keep an eye on the air to fuel ratio. There by ensuring that each fuel mod isn’t adding too much or too little fuel. If you’re interested in doing so I might have an new extra wide band and gauge squirreled away in my garage.
@jessebrowne5243
@jessebrowne5243 Жыл бұрын
Validated my theory on my fun cart, awesome vidja!
@trumpfancardanostakepool4737
@trumpfancardanostakepool4737 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Nice to finally see the hp changes.
@ericmorgan7657
@ericmorgan7657 Жыл бұрын
This is so awesome,Thank You!!!!......I pray you do a wildcat 223.
@lloydbaker7099
@lloydbaker7099 Жыл бұрын
Love the upgrades
@andyb9994
@andyb9994 Жыл бұрын
Great vid glad to see you got a dyno, we use these engines on race Karts, and this is super helpful info... Thanks!!!💯
@josephschmier3733
@josephschmier3733 Жыл бұрын
I love this stuff and the way your doing it. I would love to see preditor Goast vs tillison stage 1
@igokarts4510
@igokarts4510 Жыл бұрын
Had to pop some popcorn for this one.
@kirkclegg5960
@kirkclegg5960 Жыл бұрын
I have plans to build one of these soon. This will be so very helpful!!!
@SRT-Dani
@SRT-Dani Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the 224 dyno run
@morgunfreedom4346
@morgunfreedom4346 Жыл бұрын
Going to be a great series... How about flathead briggs up on there
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
We will be doing that soon sir. Thanks for watching!
@DOITALLMFER
@DOITALLMFER Жыл бұрын
Ok I’ll subscribe now hahahaa. Let’s get it man these dyno videos are gonna be the best thing out.. please pump em out man thanks.
@jwish29
@jwish29 Жыл бұрын
Very excited for this series. Maybe only show one of the dyno runs from each variation though? Seemed to drag on seeing the entire pull of each run.
@thewildernessfactor2667
@thewildernessfactor2667 Жыл бұрын
Love the vid I’ve done lots of big bore kits and stroker cranks on the gy6 engines, now I’m looking forward building my 212 on my go kart now because of you
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
We have everything you can think of coming. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!!!
@3dconceptsofutah757
@3dconceptsofutah757 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Red Beard! Great to see the data! Like you mentioned, it's hard to quantify stuff just by feel. Cheers mate!
@marvicty
@marvicty Жыл бұрын
This dyno is a game changer plus Lonnie in the vids is always a good thing
@yoster77
@yoster77 Жыл бұрын
This series is great!
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@lungsup
@lungsup Жыл бұрын
This will be like Richard Holdener's videos proving what works and what doesn't. Useful beyond description.
@NatashaB
@NatashaB Жыл бұрын
Love this. Would also love to see similar rundown for a 420 in the future!
@lifeisabeech941
@lifeisabeech941 Жыл бұрын
Love the idea for the magnetic dipstick def gonna pick one of those puppies up
@kinotransam
@kinotransam Жыл бұрын
That A/F Ratio sensor would really improve your tuning capabilities to get the max power. If the 17.7 AFR that was displayed is what that engine was actually producing, it's entirely way too lean. Most naturally aspirated engines like to be between 12-13.5 AFR. General rule of thumb is the right timing for torque, and the right AFR for horsepower, but both tuning aspects effect both parameters in different ways.
@dirtfootracing8788
@dirtfootracing8788 Жыл бұрын
Great Info....keep it up !
@Konnersaki
@Konnersaki 10 ай бұрын
Wow this is an awesome video even have the tools step by step at the bottom I will definitely be back to install the stage 1 on my 212 swapped ct100 👍
@406life
@406life Жыл бұрын
Just bought a 224 predator lol,you just earned a sub,great stuff
@troysmoliak4924
@troysmoliak4924 Жыл бұрын
I would just like to say Merry Christmas and a Happy New Years to you red beard and your family I really don't hope you're having a good one God bless and amen to all of you my respect from Canada. Oh yeah I almost forgot Lonnie Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year's to you and your family as well.
@sammylisasmith2104
@sammylisasmith2104 Жыл бұрын
Great video bud can't wait for the next one 👍
@ryanswiggart7553
@ryanswiggart7553 Жыл бұрын
Got in an argument with the tech barn last weekend when they claimed no mufflers make more power. Thanks for proving me right!
@bbaaspencer1
@bbaaspencer1 11 ай бұрын
That dyno is a game changer!
@justinvanburen8259
@justinvanburen8259 4 ай бұрын
Another great video!!!
@edwardrivera3031
@edwardrivera3031 Жыл бұрын
Love that kind of video!!
@jessiemckinney1104
@jessiemckinney1104 Жыл бұрын
Love the videos
@BradVentureAZ
@BradVentureAZ Жыл бұрын
i love the comparison video !!!
@clivecole1290
@clivecole1290 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, you cant beat empirical data, well done
@LordFred69
@LordFred69 Жыл бұрын
just bought a 224 cc so appreciate this video
@michaelnelson7305
@michaelnelson7305 Жыл бұрын
One thing to consider is A/F ratio, keeping it consistent after each change will give better results. After removing the muffler, the engine may have been too lean to make power....
@fish_R_stinky69
@fish_R_stinky69 Жыл бұрын
Then it'll make LOADS more power when you rejet it.
@joshivy7792
@joshivy7792 Жыл бұрын
Great content perfect execution
@coachjbates
@coachjbates Жыл бұрын
Just found you guys and thanks.. Bring back memories of my Rupp Mini Bike... Yep i am that old... These seems fun
@im_ur_huckleberry8998
@im_ur_huckleberry8998 Жыл бұрын
Great video brother!!
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@laynelommen9460
@laynelommen9460 Жыл бұрын
Thx alot red beard. Great video.
@montanasoftware5954
@montanasoftware5954 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Please do this with a Briggs 627 vanguard 23hp engine. Thanks!
@jimciancio9005
@jimciancio9005 Жыл бұрын
Awesome tool my man! Thanks for someone finally doing something like this with actual numbers to back up the claims! And let me know when you have a Dyno capable of handling a Briggs Vanguard 570 fully modified billet, chrome-moly and roller everything inside and out, oh and its also superchargerd via a Eaton belt driven supercharger. I'd be afraid of it breaking your new machine there!?!? Lol! Believe it makes somewhere up in the triple digits if not right at them? But definitely worth the time and effort to make these videos to show the differences between the modified engines and how they change its characteristics and performance levels. Where you may gain power you may lose torque and this will be really interesting to see how it goes with a billet flywheel??? I believe the one on the Vanguard was something stupid weight wise difference? Like almost 20lbs down to a 7+lb flywheel. It was worth the money to get one of the ARC billet wheels when you're acceleration more than quadruples off idle!
@ricardomelo4097
@ricardomelo4097 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations.... Do this with 420cc engine...
@darrellnichter9894
@darrellnichter9894 Жыл бұрын
Finally a dino...I'm excited for this and I think everyone else will be too!
@notimegarage8632
@notimegarage8632 Жыл бұрын
This is so awesome!
@jacksonboone8396
@jacksonboone8396 Жыл бұрын
Love your work.
@randywelch55
@randywelch55 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Taking out the guessing of HP gains with real data. I'm looking forward to more "Road to Horsepower" episodes. Would like to see what an all out race motor makes on horsepower.
@GibsonsGarage
@GibsonsGarage Жыл бұрын
Love the fact you can get hard numbers to put behind these engines now. Make me want to build a drag shopping cart
@TheFastKart
@TheFastKart Жыл бұрын
@redbeards garage - Lets prove its the timing causing the torque loss by putting an offset key in to retard the timing 4 degrees. We all need to see this in action to be sure we know what works and what doesn't. Thank you for a great series of videos!
@treya2403
@treya2403 Жыл бұрын
Duude I love the videos we need more lol I wanna see you take your favorite yard cart that you have and see how fast you can make it meaning how bad can you make that motor and be able to fire it up and hit the woods
@rnbfishinchallenge5231
@rnbfishinchallenge5231 Жыл бұрын
This series is awesome. Keep it up. I just have to make sure my son doesn’t see this or I’ll have to build him another go kart with all these upgrades. 😂
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
Lol we feed addiction.
@delandbrooks3291
@delandbrooks3291 Жыл бұрын
This makes the mods comparable. I want to see this same testing done against a Ghost.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage Жыл бұрын
We will in an upcoming video.
@str8mac842
@str8mac842 Жыл бұрын
Real nice video 💯
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