Top 5 Most OVERRATED & OVERPRICED Watches You Should Avoid

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@RichMitch
@RichMitch 2 ай бұрын
How about underpriced and underrated... That's more where I'm shopping at 😂
@shanghaiffgg
@shanghaiffgg 2 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@carlosoruna7174
@carlosoruna7174 Ай бұрын
Omega
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Video about this exact topic is incoming in the next few weeks. Please stay tuned! 🙏
@RichMitch
@RichMitch Ай бұрын
@@MarcoFerranteWatches 🫡
@Shawn-o4z8y
@Shawn-o4z8y Ай бұрын
@@MarcoFerranteWatchesyou look constipated me lad, stealing all the leads 🎉🎉🎉
@michaelnissen4322
@michaelnissen4322 2 ай бұрын
Tiffany stamps are the proof that rich people are easy to impress
@pt8208
@pt8208 2 ай бұрын
Says a guy who probably owns a G-Shock!
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 Ай бұрын
Collectors listen to salespeople
@michaelnissen4322
@michaelnissen4322 Ай бұрын
@@pt8208 now thats hysterically funny 🤣🤣🤣
@TriforceRich
@TriforceRich Ай бұрын
It’s just about exclusivity and flex.
@pt8208
@pt8208 Ай бұрын
@@BobbyDazzler888 Amature, uninformed-unknowledgable collectors, yes.
@ameeral-shammaa9012
@ameeral-shammaa9012 2 ай бұрын
Marco!! You’re spot on man with everything you said! I own aquanaut 5167A and paid over double retail for it as well as a few modern Cartiers. The Aquanaut is not worth the money although I love it. It’s just that I wanted a sports watch from Patek to add to the complication and grand complications that I have as well as a Calatrava and an Ellipse and couldn’t justify the price of a Nautilus. I love rubber straps and use after market ones for all my Rolex watches cuz it makes the wearing experience much nicer, therefore I bought that Aquanaut. I never got into the rabbit hole of vintage Cartier for the exact reason you mentioned, which is the quality of their movements and water resistance that makes the watch unwearable. I got into ordering those pieces from the new catalog that is not available for most people. I find the crash a hype watch and probably one of the least appealing designs from Cartier. RM prices are not justifiable and I don’t think it’s just the RM11, it’s just all not justifiable and I’m mind boggled about why these watches cost so much regardless of the innovation and material. Growing up in the Middle East and living for over a decade in Dubai, I still never understood why these Omani Khanjar stamped on a dial or engraved on the case back should make any difference at all in the price. Well I think the same concept applies to Tiffany or Gueblin stamps too. It’s just an excuse and a hype created by grey market dealers to maximise their profit. Roger Smith is overpriced and is not worth the money. I appreciate his art but I believe he is charging too much for it. Great content! I’m a big fan. Good luck.
@richardmorris6365
@richardmorris6365 Ай бұрын
Aquanaut is gorgeous, & agree a good rubber strap is a game changer.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you for the support brother I'm glad you enjoyed this. Agree and good to hear a lot of your points, thank you for sharing 🙏
@decundiwatkins4395
@decundiwatkins4395 Ай бұрын
How does RM get a pass for using non in-house movements from renaud & papi and parmigani
@josephwolf2256
@josephwolf2256 Ай бұрын
Dude, you have to stop apologizing. You undermine your own credibility when you keep saying "just my opinion," "for me personally," "you may see it differently," etc etc etc. We get it: it's YOUR opinion. Give it a rest...
@MrClaudeCrook
@MrClaudeCrook Ай бұрын
Canadians tend to do this lol
@blakeacheson
@blakeacheson Ай бұрын
weird to be triggered by this
@josephwolf2256
@josephwolf2256 Ай бұрын
@@blakeacheson"triggered???" Is that really what you want to call it? Gee, tell me more about me. You seem to have keen insights into my psyche...
@Nordic_Sky
@Nordic_Sky Ай бұрын
An articulate and intelligent video. A pleasure to watch.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@samplechannel2fiyd5idjfufjfud
@samplechannel2fiyd5idjfufjfud Ай бұрын
Daytona is overrated as hell; an unusable chronograph with screw-down button, obnoxious look, overall 2 out 10 from me.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Totally fair, I personally would disagree but I respect your opinion. Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@bertholdbach4959
@bertholdbach4959 Ай бұрын
​@@MarcoFerranteWatchesWhy do you disagree with him?
@emphasis20
@emphasis20 Ай бұрын
IMO, I don't like the over-polishing either.
@ListenToPowerViolence
@ListenToPowerViolence 2 ай бұрын
I see a Marco video I upvote and comment. It's really a simple process.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the continued support brother! 🙏
@theodoriller
@theodoriller Ай бұрын
I was at Leonard before and I am so glad that I found this.
@waynemoore9951
@waynemoore9951 2 ай бұрын
The aquanot. 30m water resistance for a water themed watch.
@Sumerdini
@Sumerdini Ай бұрын
👎
@davecorry7723
@davecorry7723 Ай бұрын
But didn't Patek come out recently declaring their water-resistance to be *actual* water resistance, and not the pressurized equivalent? Meaning that their 30m means you can actually dive to 30m with it ...
@choyayahyah
@choyayahyah Ай бұрын
No, it's 120m. 30m became the default standard for Patek but it's 120m
@LIONTAMER3D
@LIONTAMER3D Ай бұрын
​@davecorry7723 who's diving with a bezel-less watch?
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Hard to disagree.. hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@Iuckylukey
@Iuckylukey Ай бұрын
Your videos are full of wisdom, thanks!
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the support and kind words! 🙏
@SallaLaurila
@SallaLaurila Ай бұрын
I love watching your videos and MAMACOO to keep myself updated on the world of watches
@kaunas888
@kaunas888 Ай бұрын
I agree completely. These are the absurd of the absurd in terms of pricing.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@Illinination53
@Illinination53 2 ай бұрын
Agree here , 5167 worth retail value or a bit over all day . Nice video Marco !
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you brother 🙏
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 Ай бұрын
Kanjar stamped dials. Biggest luxury bazaar scam going.
@Uriel767
@Uriel767 2 ай бұрын
goodjob son... totaly agree on the hyped watches, beter a nice complication, some extra difficulties ,thats nice 👍👍
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@NerlyBellas
@NerlyBellas Ай бұрын
Love your channel with so many stellar watches! For me the MAMACOO’ watch is my favorite. Keep the videos coming. Thanks.
@Crackers2549
@Crackers2549 Ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more Marc ...! I never liked the look of a RM to begin with... AND yep that Patek way over priced... Spot on Marco and your presentation here is flawless, excellent video...! You're in my neck of the woods now LOL ... I need to drop in on you sometime... Greg
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Sure thing Greg! Feel free to stop in anytime I'm at the 120 E Oak St location. Glad you enjoyed this 🙏
@jemwatch1
@jemwatch1 Ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree with you more Marco! Good luck at Burdeens !
@mhardy5448
@mhardy5448 Ай бұрын
Rogers Smith made 18 watches last year (not 80-100)- up from around 12 a few years ago - he has a team and premises to pay for and my god the quality is terrific ! A watch takes utpo a year to make and the guy that makes it does everything
@FJMBZ
@FJMBZ 2 ай бұрын
Great video Marco, agree on Patek aquanaut and nautilus 100%
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@Nobiggiesal
@Nobiggiesal 2 ай бұрын
Completely agree with the 5167, coming from someone that owned it. A 3rd generation Overseas or an AP15300 is much more watch for the money. One in particular to me that I can't comprehend the secondary value is the Daytona LeMans. I've never handled one, but this piece goes for about triple retail. Great vid Marco.
@lv293
@lv293 2 ай бұрын
What made you sell it? Did you not like it overtime?
@troisk
@troisk 2 ай бұрын
The regular Daytona has the lowest supply out of the Rolex pro range, so the LM which is the rarest of Daytonas with a very limited production (the white gold 126529 was discontinued after less than a year, and the current yellow gold 126528 has only been around for less than 6 months and appears to be even more scarce), it's no surprise. And the celebration story, open caseback and revised 4132 movement all add to the hype. Completely agree with the 5167. I've tried one on and although it wears well and has amazing finishing on the movement and case as you'd expect from Patek, it still feels very underwhelming. I find it expensive for MSRP (basically the price of a pre-owned 126500...), let alone for twice MSRP. But with that said I don't think "value" is ever a valid point when it comes to luxury goods. They aren't necessities, you buy what you love at the price you can stomach. You will always find a watch with a better value proposition, all the way down to a Casio F91W.
@Iuckylukey
@Iuckylukey Ай бұрын
Apparently Genta hated the Aquanaut. That should tell you something.
@richardmorris6365
@richardmorris6365 Ай бұрын
Daytona is so well designed & feels & looks so iconic. It needs to be in the 18k range for steel.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you for the continued support brother! The Lemans is nice but definitely don't understand triple retail lol. But I guess it doesn't matter as I will never be able to afford one lol. Appreciate you 🙏
@ok_littleharry8846
@ok_littleharry8846 Ай бұрын
Thanks Marco. Wishing you well.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@Hilighted
@Hilighted Ай бұрын
Thank you very much! Liked, subscribed and shared. My absolute favorite KZbin channel by far.
@Brainiacmind2023
@Brainiacmind2023 Ай бұрын
Good work Marco !!!
@AJHall-y4z
@AJHall-y4z 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your bold, honest and courageous opinion. I am so glad to hear that there is at least one more person who has similar opinion as mine:)
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed this video 🙏
@choyayahyah
@choyayahyah Ай бұрын
Marco, I couldn't agree more as a watch collector. Regarding the 5167A I never owned one but i have a 5168G in blue and i almost never wear it because it just doesn't do anything for me. Thankfully, i got it retail from my AD though.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Obviously you are very safe having bought it from your AD. 5168 is a great watch but I just don't see it being worth $70k+ on the secondary market. Just not my thing personally. Glad you enjoyed this 🙏
@choyayahyah
@choyayahyah Ай бұрын
@MarcoFerranteWatches I agree 100%
@choyayahyah
@choyayahyah Ай бұрын
@MarcoFerranteWatches fyi, I had purchased a few nice VCs from Burdeens including an overseas perpetual skeleton in rose with blue dial (or whatever dial is left)
@creditguy4922
@creditguy4922 27 күн бұрын
Where is burdeens located.
@davecorry7723
@davecorry7723 Ай бұрын
Wow, Marco, what a great, refreshing video! Full respect to Burdeens to allow you to speak your mind and treat your audience like thinking adults.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! Burdeen's is amazing and gives me full autonomy (within reason of course) regarding my content. Glad you enjoyed this 🙏
@rxurph
@rxurph 2 ай бұрын
Hey Marco, what do you think of the Odysseus?
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 Ай бұрын
Lange after sales service and service quality is terrible. Look it up. So many people complaining
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Absolutely love the Odysseus! This may be surprising but my favorite is actually the white gold version on rubber. Cheaper and better than an Aquanaut!! Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@rxurph
@rxurph Ай бұрын
@ isn’t it still 50+?
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
@@rxurph I sold one recently for $48,000
@Ben-yw8be
@Ben-yw8be Ай бұрын
This is why I only shop underrated watches. I own a 37mm Yachtmaster and a two toned Rolex Explorer.
@akcoop
@akcoop Ай бұрын
Great vid. I totally agree with you. These watches are really all hype. Nice, but hyped
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@jakewilly8891
@jakewilly8891 Ай бұрын
Happy Burdeens picked u you. Congrats
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the continued support! 🙏
@The_real_Mr_Ghost
@The_real_Mr_Ghost Ай бұрын
Damn Marco…you will devalue my 5167a now 😂…..great video brother 💪
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Haha I doubt I have the ability to move the market like that. Thank you for the support brother I truly appreciate it! 🙏
@marcosdoyter7460
@marcosdoyter7460 Ай бұрын
I thought you worked for Roman Sharf. What happened? Did he fire you?
@WestCoastAce27
@WestCoastAce27 2 ай бұрын
Interesting choices. Totally agree on the Aquanaut. Valuations getting a free ride off of the Nautilus unavailability. It is a nicely molded rubber strap though 🤣
@richardmorris6365
@richardmorris6365 Ай бұрын
I like complications but on the Aquanaut it looks good as is on brown rubber but not for over 30k.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Lol yes comfortable watch no doubt. Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@leonardoluc6362
@leonardoluc6362 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, appreciated and agree.
@kaunas888
@kaunas888 Ай бұрын
RM's claim to fame seems to be that they are really really expensive.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
It has definitely become an F U money watch for sure. Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@Tomb3861
@Tomb3861 Ай бұрын
RW Smith makes 10-12 watches per year - and his order book is full for the remainder of his life. The prices kind of make sense when demand is that high...
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
That simply isn't the case. He produces multiple watches per month as he's expanded his atelier and his order book is open again as many customers have cancelled their order due to the price increases.
@Tomb3861
@Tomb3861 Ай бұрын
@ fair points! I didn't realise this. I stand corrected!
@billchan6180
@billchan6180 Ай бұрын
Thanks for being so brave to say what you feel. Khanjars are special but i agree without been stamped on the dial it looks just like any other rolex
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you for the support on the video 🙏
@billchan6180
@billchan6180 Ай бұрын
@ you are doing great, more believable than even your old company, who kinda do a know it all attitude.
@Yellowtang1
@Yellowtang1 Ай бұрын
Great video.I couldn’t disagree with any of your comments and observations.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@laszlos4892
@laszlos4892 Ай бұрын
The only think I can add regarding RM, when you are wearing other beautiful watches, people look at the watch, when you wear an RM, people look at the man. That’s the value. Personally I prefer my watches underrated and would rather that no one knows what I’m wearing, except for Cartier. Can’t help but love their designs. The Santos and the Tank are perfection.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Hard to disagree with what you have laid out. Love Cartier also! Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@michaelchiu7317
@michaelchiu7317 Ай бұрын
Totally agreed! Thanks.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you for the support 🙏
@alberto55679
@alberto55679 Ай бұрын
That aquanaut is the best😊
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
It is a great watch, just overpriced for what it is. Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@alberto55679
@alberto55679 Ай бұрын
@@MarcoFerranteWatchesif you buy on secondary market maybe yes. RM are all overrated
@Tuneitupful
@Tuneitupful 2 ай бұрын
Great video Marco👍🏽
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@John-yr8ep
@John-yr8ep 2 ай бұрын
Keep it up Marco! Loved the vid
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@ThomEmDee
@ThomEmDee Ай бұрын
Cool to see you running your own page now
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you for the continued support 🙏
@grant_a_parker
@grant_a_parker 2 ай бұрын
Have to agree re: Cartier. Like there’s nothing wrong with them, but they’re so trendy it would hard for them not to be overrated. And, yeah, I don’t understand the Aquanaut secondary market prices. But I also don’t understand why grey market Daytona’s trade at roughly the same prices as VC Overseas Chronographs.
@keltecdan
@keltecdan 2 ай бұрын
I think the key takeaway would be to stick with the icons and classics within the brand. Cartier would be the Tank and Santos. Patek would be the Nautilus in a complication and any perpetual calendar chronograph or minute repeater. Rolex has quite a few icons but the best would be Daytona and Submariner. I could go on and on.
@michaelnissen4322
@michaelnissen4322 Ай бұрын
@@grant_a_parker VC overseas Chronograph over Daytona always
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Totally agree with you. I'd take an Overseas over an aquanaut any day of the week and it comes with a bracelet, rubber and leather strap lol. Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@miabeatz80
@miabeatz80 2 ай бұрын
Another way of looking at the aquanaut and the Nautilus is comparing it to the sub vs gmt. The gmt is pretty much the same watch as the sub just different bezel and gmt hand yet sells almost double retail grey market with the Pepsi and batman. I look at the aquanaut like an alternative to the nautilus for folks who don't want an integrated bracelet but still want Patek prominence that's wearable everyday. That clearly comes with a cost. It's a great addition and alternative to all the dress watch only ethos that Patek have.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
I do feel this comparison is apt although I'd say the Sub is more iconic than the GMT while the Aquanaut is not more iconic than the Nautilus. But your point is not lost on me and I don't disagree. Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@gregsaga682
@gregsaga682 2 ай бұрын
Hey Marco, Great video. Tiffany stamped watches, especially Patek? Future secondary prices on the Cubitus? Not the same hype as Nautilus secondary prices in a year or so? Keep up the good work.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Tiffany Stamp, Gubelin stamp and others are objectively rare and not done often so I understand the premium even if I wouldn't pay it. Hard to know future of Cubitus. Thank you for the continued support 🙏
@katcrescent9856
@katcrescent9856 2 ай бұрын
Another great video!
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you brother! 🙏
@martinbishop2966
@martinbishop2966 Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more, I do have a Studio Underdog Watermelon gen 3 on order for delivery in March 2025. Cost £550.00p, good value! 😁
@blh940
@blh940 Ай бұрын
I wonder if anyone here has ever seen an RM in person/ tried one on etc. Marco is astute enough to recognize the innovation they’ve brought to the industry. Only commenting on a small segment of their offerings negatively.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! No doubt A LOT of their watches are seriously impressive and overlooked for the crazy innovation they showcase. Glad you enjoyed this 🙏
@inxs777
@inxs777 Ай бұрын
I have a huge watch collection with very rare and expensive pieces BUT the Aquanaut 5167a is my absolute favorite watch BECAUSE it is so simple and easy to wear
@JamalCarolina
@JamalCarolina Ай бұрын
What do u think about the Phillip plain?
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Not familiar with this brand
@watchGWW
@watchGWW Ай бұрын
Vintage Cartier is crazy over hyped, agreed.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Still love the content around that market though. Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@watchGWW
@watchGWW Ай бұрын
@MarcoFerranteWatches Absolutely! I think it's great you tackle all sides of the trade
@Hartwell10
@Hartwell10 2 ай бұрын
some controversial choices. But this was a good video. You have good reasoning behind all your opinions. Even if a lot of these models collectors are very fond of.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@NoDrivingNoLife
@NoDrivingNoLife Ай бұрын
Great video, but are you not working with Roman anymore?
@EulahFellezs
@EulahFellezs Ай бұрын
I've recently began my obsession as a watch collector. And i must say- out of all the luxury brands I've been researching, for me the MAMACOO's watches are the most intriguing.
@litan114
@litan114 2 ай бұрын
THIS IS A VIDEO WHICH HAS GOOD INFO SURE - WILL AVOID THESE WATCHES KEEP UP THESE GOOD VIDS
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@Nofold3
@Nofold3 Ай бұрын
Why don’t you work for LB anymore?
@blh940
@blh940 Ай бұрын
Excerpt from a watch magazine- a bit of a pushback on the anti outsourced movement view: “the aesthetics and materials of the RMCA4 are vastly different from its base - with largely skeletonised components, the usage of titanium for the bridges, and a plethora of custom components such as its variable geometry winding rotor. Nonetheless, the VMF 6710 is its foundation. So both the base and how Richard Mille ran with it, deserve huge props and offer a perfect example of how purely in-house can be overrated and how a manufacture can make a sourced design very much their own.”
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Regardless, the base movement - no matter how modified - is still a Parmigiani movement. I have no trouble using an off the shelf movement. I do have a problem paying $150k for such a watch. Just my opinion. Personally I do not care for the "In-House" movement craze. I think it is ridiculous. Hope my point is not lost on you and hope you enjoyed this video 🙏
@blh940
@blh940 Ай бұрын
@@MarcoFerranteWatches I gotcha but isn’t a heavily reworked version of a high quality movement a high quality product? Just bought a current release of the RM 010 with the Vaucher movement. Feel like you do that the in house thing is overrated which I why I’m ok with this type of collaboration.
@petenrita
@petenrita Ай бұрын
excellent presentation. will subscribe.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@musiclover4311
@musiclover4311 12 күн бұрын
Aquanaut 5670 IS my absolute favorite. I have many other high end pieces but I prefer it over 5712. Your taste and mine are diametrically opposite.
@416jr
@416jr Ай бұрын
What happend to LB ? You don’t work there anymore ?
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
I joined the Burdeen's team in July and it has truly been a blessing 🙏
@tictocbang7443
@tictocbang7443 Ай бұрын
Love Roger Smith watches, but at over $400K now is just insane.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
I could not agree more! 🙏
@shaifulothman7442
@shaifulothman7442 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you Marco. You can get a 5131/5231 for the price of 5711...my choice is obvious
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Could not agree more! 5170P I believe is now around the same price as a 5711 blue dial and that should flat out be a crime against humanity as I think the 5170P is one of the most beautiful Pateks ever made. Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@realdata8624
@realdata8624 23 күн бұрын
You don’t work for the ruskis anymore?
@briannguyen6509
@briannguyen6509 Ай бұрын
Spot on video! I don’t understand the whole Cartier vintage Mike Nouveau scene. He’s a great salesman though. Free merch and business class flights to Swiss compliments of Cartier and Hermes. I’m sure these watches he pushes suffer in value post sale from the new owner.
@WatchesCanBeFun
@WatchesCanBeFun 2 ай бұрын
Great video, especially calling out Cartier on making a bunch of junk (and good stuff too)
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! Tried to be fair and balanced, glad I was able to come across that way 🙏
@reconteam91
@reconteam91 Ай бұрын
Great video, way to take a stand on these overrated pieces. I can add 5 more. Keep it up!
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you for the support! 🙏
@masterwatch
@masterwatch Ай бұрын
some good points.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@o0MadHouse0o
@o0MadHouse0o Ай бұрын
The best value for money watch you can buy is the standard Rolex Sub Date. Hands down the greatest do it all watch ever made.
@Steve-cw1zo
@Steve-cw1zo Ай бұрын
Couldn’t have said it any better.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
It is hard for me to disagree although I would personally choose the GMT. I am just very biased towards it. Regardless I hope you enjoyed this video 🙏
@o0MadHouse0o
@o0MadHouse0o Ай бұрын
@@MarcoFerranteWatchesdon’t get me wrong, the GMT function definitely has a one up on the sub, but the monochrome look of the sub allows it to be worn with anything. The colourful bezel of the GMT does restrict it just a little.
@bertholdbach4959
@bertholdbach4959 Ай бұрын
One of the most boring watches Rolex has to offer? So much money for an unelegant divewatch. Datejust beats the Sub in all aspects.
@o0MadHouse0o
@o0MadHouse0o Ай бұрын
@@bertholdbach4959You have no idea what you’re talking about. Sit back down and let the adults talk.
@goldcds
@goldcds 2 ай бұрын
Another great video. I wholeheartedly agree with your analysis. The time only nautilus is insanely overpriced even at it's retail price. I basically dislike all Richard Mille watches, I think they are ugly as can be but do have some interesting technology but the 11 is really bad when a basic movement is used. I was a little shocked to hear that Roger Smith watches had reached that level of price. I am a huge fan of Roger Smith watches, the quality is as good as it gets but the last time I looked at prices, which was a couple years ago, the 3 hand watch with a date was in they $175k range. Now they are $400k+, that seems a little outrageous and also the last time I heard, they were making 12 watches a year, is it really 12 a month now? Anyway, another spot on video.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
I think my numbers were inaccurate in terms of production of Roger Smith. I know he expanded his workforce and is able to make more than 1 watch per month but supposedly it is no more than 3 watches per month. I think that solidifies my point even further despite me getting the figures incorrect in the video. And totally agree the price is simply outrageous now. Thank you for the support on the video 🙏
@kevorknourian5442
@kevorknourian5442 Ай бұрын
Agreed 100% finally someone speaks logically
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@RobertTaylor-ub6hv
@RobertTaylor-ub6hv 2 ай бұрын
I sure hope this drives the price of the 5968A down. I’d love to have one for my every day
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
It is an amazing watch no doubt! My point was specifically in reference to the 5167A. Regardless, hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@jamesenglish102
@jamesenglish102 Ай бұрын
R M looks like a piece of lego on a strap,but love an aquanaut
@remus2001
@remus2001 2 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why you think that the rarity of Roger W. Smith watches is somehow in tension with their prices climbing into the stratosphere. I would think those two facts are directly correlated.
@Greysprunkiyay
@Greysprunkiyay 2 ай бұрын
He talking about retail price, not market value. There’s no way you can justify $400,000 selling a Roger Smith considering the lackluster finishing.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
@@Greysprunkiyay You are correct, not talking market but rather current retail which is frankly absurd for a time only watch in my opinion
@jameswestconsultant
@jameswestconsultant Ай бұрын
Under rated and value priced pieces would include: 36mm Rolex Day-Date double quickset ref. 18238, 36mm DateJust pieces from mid-eighties to late nineties in steel or 18k/steel, 90’s-early 2000’s Omega Speedmasters and those years in Patek annual calendars ☝🏻😉
@richardmorris6365
@richardmorris6365 Ай бұрын
Dont care for skeleton watches at all,exposed back case fine it is not even a watch at this pt. The hands are almost invisible. The Aquanaut is simple & gorgeous but not above 30k. My opinion
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Very fair assessment. Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@gavinwhite9743
@gavinwhite9743 Ай бұрын
Richard Mille look like watches off Temu, with thousands of Chinese me too examples. It does not ooze class. It’s intersting, I’m not as convinced by secondary prices. A friend of mine struggled to find a shop that was willing to buy his.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Haha fair enough. I totally disagree but respect your opinion. Richard Mille is still quite liquid on the secondary market, it just depends on pricepoints. There is a big range in terms of what most dealers feel comfortable stocking these watches at. Hope you enjoyed this video 🙏
@Ferrucci_1666
@Ferrucci_1666 Ай бұрын
Great video
@DiegooJohnsen
@DiegooJohnsen Ай бұрын
I absolutely love watches, the high end watch brands are out of my budget but the MAMACOO has literally an almost duplicate of every single watch on the market . Always a great but no matter your budget.
@keeno57
@keeno57 Ай бұрын
My list of watches I would like to buy, is long, but it's not one Patek on it, they are simply NOT good looking.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Totally fair, I think they make some beautiful timepieces that are definitely worth your attention. Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@cb7903
@cb7903 2 ай бұрын
Agreed about the khanjar and how certain dealers pump those up
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 Ай бұрын
Luxury bazaar bought up and pushing these.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
Thank you, hope you enjoyed this video 🙏
@joannedrake6019
@joannedrake6019 15 күн бұрын
I purchase an Stainless Steel Patek Philippe Aquanaut in 1997 for £5750.00 and I've worn it twice as the watch dial looks odds to the rubber strap, and the rubber strap dries out and shrinks. Also you cannot dive in it or go swimming as its only 30 metres and its no way worth more than a 18Kt gold Calatrava. The 1976 Submariner 1680 is a far superior watch in every form and has been a daily wearer and handles everything you can throw at it. Another watch company who makes nice watches is Cartier but their after sales service is absolutely rubbish. I have over the years sent my watches to Cartier service via the AD and they have come back with more scratches on the case than it was sent. The last one was a solid silver Tank which looks like they've given it to a blind apprentice who badly scratched the case and the screws are protruding. It has been sent back to Cartier with a complaint letter as they argued that its not solid silver and plated when its quite clear that it's Sterling silver.
@j.m.4444
@j.m.4444 Ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@digitalskala
@digitalskala Ай бұрын
5167, time only? 🤔
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
The date is mostly immaterial in the argument presented in this video..
Ай бұрын
Your Roger Smith take is a little misguided. you want to make sense out of someone making almost completely hand made watches when the only reason to do so is because you can. he makes 12 watches a year and could problably sell a 100 so getting a slot is like being gifted future money but the buyers of his watches do not have many money problems
@MichaelMitchell-vk9lk
@MichaelMitchell-vk9lk Ай бұрын
I love vintage watches and have a great watchmaker restore them for me. They’re so different from the hot new watches and are great values
@PhattyPhil
@PhattyPhil Ай бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever agreed with a list video more than this.
@JasmineWhite-gd5sg
@JasmineWhite-gd5sg 2 ай бұрын
The Patek 5167 isn’t just time , it also includes a date . 😊
@richardmorris6365
@richardmorris6365 Ай бұрын
It's like the Daytona for me ,gorgeous but I'm not overpaying
@hatchegg80
@hatchegg80 Ай бұрын
exactly right, no reason why aquanaut should trade over the complications
@garypollard1821
@garypollard1821 Ай бұрын
Say it, say it again, say it again, and keep saying it. This video is a master class in how not to make a point.
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
What would you suggest to improve?
@tonys9923
@tonys9923 Ай бұрын
Aquanaut and Nautilus are both 1970’s designs that look almost like digital watches of the era. Not a pleasant shape, not elegant, don’t look sporty and if they didn’t have Patek Phillipe written on them, most people would think they looked very dated (in a bad way). Their only attractive watches are the calatrava range. All the rest look like a homage to the seventies!
@OrlandoCorrea-k2i
@OrlandoCorrea-k2i Ай бұрын
Is the same tiffany letters i don't understan kanjar stamp and tiffany you have too pay a lot of money for the same watch😮
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
The Tiffany stamp I can understand more given the historical relationship, rarity and given it is stamped on the dial. Hope you enjoyed this 🙏
@mikedonovan9783
@mikedonovan9783 Ай бұрын
There are no watches offering value if they are sold above retail . I would even say that a lot of watches are not worth their retail price
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
We all have different thresholds of what we are willing to pay so totally fair. Hope you enjoyed this video 🙏
@nadiakent4082
@nadiakent4082 Ай бұрын
If your justification for thinking something is overrated is because of a personal preference like, you don’t like vintage watches, then the video has limited utility for the consumer, unless you have some justification for that position. Personally it is very rare for me to buy other than vintage. I love the personal and unique story behind each watch. I love the place it has in horological history. Its popularity or unpopularity. It’s unusual or rare design. To beat this dead horse further with examples. I got a победа watch, because it was the same model as the first watch into space, that was worn by a stray dog from Moscow on Sputnik 4, put on the dog at random by one of the ground crew. I got Universal Geneve Polerouter, because it was the first watch designed by a 23 y/o Gerald Genta before he would go on to design the Nautilus and Royal Oak among many others. I got a Cartier Ballon Bleu, because my later mother always wanted a Cartier, and joked about it but saw it as excess that would cost her children something, so she never owned anything Cartier. I see these stories and a couple dozen more when I look at my collection. Many times a watch can have multiple stories. With such an emotional feast in the vintage market, it is hard to get excited about a new color dial or complication, though that story too can become compelling under certain circumstances, but to me in general, the human drama in this play is in the vintage market Brute.
@LIONTAMER3D
@LIONTAMER3D Ай бұрын
Every single Rolex is grossly overrated
@richardmorris6365
@richardmorris6365 Ай бұрын
Great watch but certain brands just become bigger than their product. At retail I'm all in..
@MarcoFerranteWatches
@MarcoFerranteWatches Ай бұрын
I personally disagree but I respect your opinion. Hope you enjoyed this video 🙏
@LIONTAMER3D
@LIONTAMER3D Ай бұрын
@richardmorris6365 yeah, so much bigger that the brand itself outshines the milk toast watches they're cranking out & charging a mint for =/
@bertholdbach4959
@bertholdbach4959 Ай бұрын
Rolex rides on its history and marketing more than on their products. The only Rolex I like are some Datejust models. I just dont understand what people see in those Submariners, OP, Airkings, etc... And I have seen some in real life, either on the wrist of someone or in a Boutique.
@LIONTAMER3D
@LIONTAMER3D Ай бұрын
@@bertholdbach4959 it's a fake history lol, subs were never used by navy seals, daytonas were never used by race car drivers; etc.
@WorldsOkayestGuitarPlayerKinda
@WorldsOkayestGuitarPlayerKinda Ай бұрын
I own a 5167A and although I love it, I dont disagree with you. Its alot of money for a stainless watch with a rubber strap.
@javieralborna9511
@javieralborna9511 Ай бұрын
that patek philippe with rubber straps is just horrendous! looks like a watch you get as a gift for changing your car tires to Michelin tires!
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