Detroit diesel 8v92TA issues Wanderlodge rv

[@TruthProvider]

It's times like this when I'm happy to watch the video while not having to worry about paying for the repairs!

[@snuffysmiff]

Almost as bad as owning a used boat... that came with someone's else's problems.

[@mikemullay5622]

@@snuffysmiff Break Out Another Thousand!

[@Cameron-ur2tk]

@@snuffysmiff Depends on what kind of used boat and the condition. When i had no money I ran boats for 100s of hours that costed less than grand from the 70s... rebuild the carbs, some fresh gas, impeller and a battery and had minimal to no issues. When I found the a new better boat i often sold it for no loss. For me it was finding boats that were only used in fresh water especially for a decent old engine and drag them out to the coast. My current boat is a 97 23 foot with a 2010 yamaha 200, as far as the boat goes its been great for the last 7 years, i had to replace the 110 gallon gas tank last summer due to a pinhole leak and changed the electronics out (because i wanted to) but other than that I run it like I stole it. Standard engine maintenance. As long as your willing to do the work yourself and you buy it right its not bad. Probably the biggest joke is my boat is now worth more now then what i paid for it do the lack surplus of boats currently, almost sold it for 30 grand a few months ago and when I bought if for 20. IMO, stay away from project boats, buy something that runs and is complete with a trailer, wood free construction, stay away from I/Os and avoid certain volvo outdrives like the plague, take into account the age of the gas tank and what its made of. Theres a few outboard engines and years id avoid too. Personally id rather buy a 5 year old boat with 500 hours on the outboard then a brand new one, You see all the possible issues with the hull / layup when its that age, spider cracking, poor wiring, fixes (if any) and get a huge huge discount. When you buy a new boat theres a very big chance it'll be back for warranty work for poor wiring or gelcoat issues thats most likely been resolved by the first owner. With all that said, if you dont use your boat often its best to off it and put your money in your pocket, nothing more expensive than an unused boat.

[@coniow]

@Humpty Dumpty "Nothing is as bad as owning a boat..lol it's a big hole in the ocean that all your money falls into". I am told that a Russian Oligarch used to tell people: "If it Floats, Flies, or F(ornicates)**ks, RENT IT!"

[@jeremyd9826]

Hello in-frame overhaul! So nice to meet you lol

[@Wayoutthere]

Say hello to misery :p

[@R.E.HILL_]

Would be madness not to change all the liners... A very good video... looking forward to your next one.. 🙂👍

[@zukiboy94]

I drove truck back in the 80s & these engines would have to be overhauled about every 350,000. miles they were junk.

[@Draxindustries1]

Great workmanship and attention to detail. Good to see these 2T Detroits are still being looked after and kept running. Between yourselves you obviously have a wealth of knowledge. Keep up the good work. All the best from the UK.

[@jballard3253]

You've got to keep up on the overall maintenance on these engines and get the little stuff fixed right away. I'm betting this engine overheated BIG TIME at least once in it's life. I'm guessing he'll "bite the bullet" and do the "in frame" faced with the evidence that there's a 1 in 4 chance that the rest are damaged too. He's there, it's half way apart why pay labor costs a second, third or fourth time if he plays the odds, be cheaper in the long run to get it all done now. IMHO - I'd rather have Scott do the work then get stuck on the road & have to rely on "unknown" local mechanics or worse yet - truck stop mechanics!

[@hartsfire5706]

just from every thing i am seeing i am wondering how the blower looks? all the dirt came from some were and threw that blower.

[@MWestern-m4g]

Holy Cow!! I see a TABLE!!!! Beats the crap out of squatting in the dirt,rocks,chat,etc. Congratulations

[@nightsailor1]

Road Signs: Use Low Gear. 9% Grade. Check Air Pressure before Ascent. Jake Brake OK. Lenny says howdy.

[@thomasmaier5270]

I am surprised that old Lodge was able to climb up the hill.

[@MWestern-m4g]

This GREAT. I'm scrambling to find a motor pullout for a WL and lo and behold your pulling the head with it in the bay!!!!!!! Can't wait to see you lift that head out. Kudo's for the owner to let you proceed!!!

[@archstanton9206]

40 years ago, when I was a young man, I worked on a water well drilling rig with that engine, it was a V8 Detroit with the turbo, a TH-60 Ingersoll Rand rig. That engine turned the air compressor and hydraulics for the rig, and was the power plant that moved the thing as well. The owner of the company did not like it when we wanted to do oil changes etc, he wanted it out drilling...that engine was one of the most abused power plants I have ever been around and it just kept running, throttle pinned for 8-10 hours a day, screaming like crazy and drinking fuel at the rate of 125 gallons a day. But it ran, and ran, and ran. I have no idea when it finally gave up.

[@2packs4sure]

Any theories on why so much carnage,, scoring, cracked cylinder liners, pistons wasted,, was it grossly overheated or the wrong oil or lack of oil?

[@kenmatch8303]

If you hook your chain on each end of the rocker arm bolts the head will come on or off on the V8 angle. Good video, I don't miss the engine work on those tight buses!😬😁👌

[@DefconMaster]

That thing was running far better than it had any right to with that damage. Just goes to show, those old 2 strokes may not be the most powerful or efficient motors (at least by today's standards), but they'll keep chugging away when most other motors would have long since given up the ghost!

[@cbmech2563]

In the early 90s Via bus was pulling the 8v71s out of their mc9s and installing Delaney and Alf rebuilt 8v 92s at 450hp. Most of their trips were from Central California to Reno ,and they cut about an hour of the trip and just about doubled the mpg. 70 mph or better over Donner pass

[@harrowtiger]

We’re all sorry to see the scuffed, damaged and cracked parts coming out of one of our favourite V8 Detroit Diesels. Our eyes all collectively twitched just like Squatch253 as we started to really see inside. Regrets for all the damage from Down Under BONBEACH Melbourne Victoria Australia.

[@frankbrunner9360]

That R.C. plane looks so much easier to park than this monster M.H. Cheaper to do a head R.R....?

[@n4zou]

My old Tandy TRS-80 model 102 would be right at home with that printer and it could read the codes with the proper connector. It's out lived so many other computers I've had over the years.

[@mpccenturion]

It sounds like my 1970 Beetle and it smokes like it too! You are the expert!

[@fireantsarestrange]

Bearings and seals too looks like. Sucks but that is totally hammered.

[@detroitgarage9430]

Great video, liners and pistons have seen better days. Had a similar experience with my 4-53T but wasn't as lucky and broke the liner. Upgraded to a Silver Series now with 10,000 happy miles and runs sweet. Looking forward to part 2.:)

[@ItsAlwaysRusty]

Were those cylinders dusted with unfiltered intake air at some point? Everything sounds/looks gritty to me...

[@BlindBatG34]

I hope the lobes on the blower don't look bad as well.

[@DavidScheiber]

I wonder if the 39 historic "coolant temp too high" codes have something to do with it, then again I dunno the threshold for setting that code it could be programmed to set if goes 10 over operating temperature. I suppose the best way to know would be to check the blower for scoring.

[@TyphoonVstrom]

Nah, dusted cylinders don't score up and grab like that, they look more evenly worn all over.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

@@DavidScheiber I thought I recalled it's gotta be like 215 or more maybe 220-225 or so

[@dcallan812]

Its just a tad scored. 🙂 it looked a little better than I was expecting until you got it in the light.

[@michaelfinney2160]

Definitely needs a complete build if you don’t want more problems shortly down the road. Rig is too nice not to do the completely. I know it’s gonna cost but it will be worth it in the long run.

[@Mdbtyhtr]

The most meat in the piston is at the wrist pins, and where the most expansion occurs. Complete in frame.

[@philipwise188]

Hi u u hi

[@genourbanrain]

Clean engine, I always admire a clean engine and bay. It may not; but it makes a difference if you know what I mean.

[@Bus2000]

Wonder how the other side looks. Why did this damage happen? Bad oil filter ?

[@aarontrupiano9328]

on today's episode of hey lance?

[@diannesapp5984]

Hey Lance you’ve got a new friend : Hey Al ! Sicking to know what the repair is going to entail! William 😥

[@dennisreeves632]

Fun watching you guys work. I know it is going to run a lot better shortly.

[@maximolopezsr9399]

Scott don:forget to place a liner hold down if you are going to turn the engine ,after you remove the cylinder head

[@ToomasTelling]

"hey Lance" type of repair.

[@camshaftP16]

That looks like its been dusted to me. The DD tech that use to do our engines had a lifting jig that would bolt to the head one way would hold the head level, flip it over and would hold it at the correct angle for V block engines, small enough piece it could almost fit in your pocket. you need one.

[@herrkiwi3110]

That's why I used to state doing a compression test on a pre-purchase inspection that it does not guarantee the engine is in good condition.

[@Diesel8290]

Interesting that the oil control rings are below the wrist pin, I’m not familiar with this engine design atall,

[@American_Jeeper]

Scott, I learned from watching Adrien on Stu’s channel that Detroits get different piston rings, depending on whether the engine has a turbo or not...is that the case with Jerry’s and why there were failures?

[@ralphballtrip2214]

How many miles was on that engine? Thanks for the videos, Kentucky.

[@maximolopezsr9399]

Scott zI will love to see you guys using Safety Glasses

[@tommyhaggar6326]

Yes it’s nice to be able to rebuild in frame. What had caused such a mess, could that be poor maintenance??? I’m sure there aren’t many miles on that coach

[@dp.oennismaurer205]

I hate to say it, but it starting to look like an in-frame. As someone else said too much scoring & looks like it might have overheated at one time or another. If these 2 are bad how long before the other's go bad?? As someone else asked was the right oil used ?? Looks like a lot of turmoil ahead.

[@rdaw33]

You said you got a "new" injector, do they "reman" those so you just exchange (and pay!)............Love your videos!!!!

[@m.f.m.67]

I knew an RV owner that once bought a new Wanderlodge RV. He said you loose $75,000 in depreciation just driving it off the lot!😳

[@jorgefernandez-mv8hu]

That was pretty cool the way you pulled the liner out. I had never seen that. Can you smell the new pistons and liners all around?

[@robertdemore395]

The metal shavings you found in the inspection covers may be coming from the oil bath air cleaners if it has them the packing gets loose in the air cleaner and starts coming apart Had this problem on some equipment I use to work on .

[@stretch44875]

Paper filters

[@robertdemore395]

Ok sorry

[@davebetker8788]

Looks like wire wheel broken off wire bits, they have the twist....

[@jackkreighbaum783]

Is BGM learning about the DDeck Detroit?

[@mjmcomputers]

I can’t believe it ran so well. That crack was about 1/8in from from water.

[@markjgaletti57]

I have an 83 bluebird wanderlodge 118000 miles can I make an appointment I need your help

[@timpearn9383]

What is are the main causes of all these problems? Wear and tear, overheat, or lack of maintenance or perhaps a combo of all three?

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

Overheat

[@nexttrucker]

Hey bus grease monkey 🐵 I’m finally getting my fishbowl. Is in Georgia been sitting for about 10 years... any chance you can check it out to see what repairs it needs? Planning on moving it to Kissimmee fl in a couple of months. Thanks in advance.

[@RollinHomies]

Hello Scott! Can you recommend a store (or online source) for buying those blue union boots for the water pipes, pretty please😃?

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

Blue silicone coolant hoses. With constant torque hose clamps

[@AllianceB95]

I heared the damage the moment it was going up the hill... It had all sorts of Worn Out noises... This does show how tough a Detroit Diesel is... It will get you there eventho the engine is good as gone... With engineparts in the oil..... I hope the owner decides for the best option an Overhaul by Bus Grease Monkey.

[@hotpuppy1]

Got to it just in time. As others said, If those look that bad, the rest aren't far behind. Expensive to be sure, but better now than later.

[@brianbrwa]

I would be looking at an M11 retrofit, new pistons and liners, eek!

[@jeffbyrd7976]

These videos make my stomach turn...could be mine in that condition. Thanks.

[@mikemullay5622]

This is one unhappy sounding Bluebird. But it came to the right place.

[@dflood6111]

How many Wonderful Mechanics does it take to overhaul a WonderLodge?

[@cw3339]

So with all those bad liners are you going to do a complete in frame? Or would it be better to pull the engine and rebuild?

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Back in the day when I worked in an engine shop, I'm pretty sure I saw the Old timer pull the whole mess out of there in a coach to do liners in every hole. He woulda been hollering if it was an in chassis .

[@imchris5000]

are you going to get a bus lift when you build the new shop?

[@j1mbobtech]

how much is an inframe parts and labor approximately

[@battlebotts]

Hello darkness my old friend!

[@frankdeegan8974]

Red is Grey and Yellow White.

[@paulbusick5332]

That turbo looked pretty new, and the wire pieces look like the ones that end up stuck in my shirt when I’m using a wire wheel😒 I feel bad for this guy

[@hulk2891]

That is one beautiful set up , I have a Mercedes 815 atego motorhome swap any day🤣

[@leewalker3514]

Is that from over heating

[@TyphoonVstrom]

Don't like the cavitation pitting on that last liner, plus it looks like the whole bank was running hot to score them all up like that. Bad thermostat on that bank?

[@robertengster2962]

Looks like complete inframe rebuild on this one.. Pretty sure he wasn't expecting this big of expense..

[@travisallen206]

Scott is this the one yall just put water hoses air bags and shocks on?????

[@richardhaywood4123]

It's a different one I think as there was a video of it leaving.

[@davidbaker3270]

wow that looks like its gona be a lot bigger repair job is a recon engine to expensive

[@vector6977]

If there are any left.

[@davidthomas4489]

10:11: You're like a physician looking through a scope in a person's body. Cool!!

[@freebird1ification]

is that a desighn flaw or what causes that to happen ?

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

Overheating

[@gmtgmt123]

allways found it funny that this body style of wanderlodge uses Tail light from a volvo 740 sedan. as a volvo lover i find it amusing

[@john242ti]

I see there's another Volvo nut here... Thought I was the only one...

[@wildcoyote34]

cracked liners and scored pistons , i'm guessing that engine got HOT at some point

[@UncaDave]

Dr. Scott, Dr. Scott..........paging Dr. Scott. Please report to the ER stat. Another Wanderlodge with a critical Double D. Dr. Scott please make sure Dr. Tyler can assist.

[@MrTabbbs]

Whats the probable cause of all that liner damage and scoring ? Low oil pressure? Poor maintenance?

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

Overheated

[@digitalrailroader]

16:08 i chuckled at Tyler's joke.

[@noshsreqd]

Been badly overheated, that's the only thing that will crack liners and score cylinders that bad other side will look the same guaranteed. I'd pull the motor out to do it proper now.

[@bryce2680]

Where did you get that printer? That is cool. Is it yours or the coach owner's unit?

[@nickpollay1681]

It’s his. He just got it. It is SWEET!!!!

[@bryce2680]

@@nickpollay1681 Nice. I just found one on ebay. Hoping it works when it arrives. Is there anything special you have to do to make it talk to the 9000? Any special cables?

[@br1022]

@@bryce2680 DIp switches and a serial cable

[@Bruce-ub8dv]

Pretty soon you're going to be a Wanderlodge expert. :) Just wondering what alerted him to the problems that brought him in for you to look at it?

[@albertomoniz9051]

No power forsure, if it was a none electronic engine she would smoke like a pig, the ecm balances fuel delivery to keep the egine some what noemal, thats why with those scorned liners you didn't see any smoke at idle

[@drsethsr]

About how much (Parts and labor) to replace pistons, rings, and liners on one of these? Do you also replace rod and main bearings, too?

[@Michael-lg4wz]

Im interested in the repair cost as car parts rings bearings etc are not expensive. I would think liners would be alot

[@johnclamshellsp1969]

That engine was "sanded" and overheated.

[@4thstooge75]

How much does a liner & piston cost for one of these ?

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

Around $400 for what we needed here

[@grantw.whitwam9948]

I don't get it, what caused that, did it get to hot one time?

[@maximolopezsr9399]

Scott from A Old Dietroit Diese Mechanic I can see that you know all tricks about Dietroit diesel

[@natevanlandingham1945]

😳 Wow that's some ancient diagnosis stuff! Never seen you use that before? Must be after the really one ones and before the engine was really computer controlled?

[@Mdbtyhtr]

When the scoring is adjacent to the piston pin axis, it is indicative of an overheat.

[@SilversidesSage]

Looking at those patterns, could there be an issue at the crankshaft?

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

His bearings and crank look great so far

[@mrwolf9335]

@@militaryveteran6185 🤔 funny how they power so many different things inc emergency back up gen sets and marine engines

[@misters2837]

@@militaryveteran6185 Tread Lightly... most of damage like this is caused by heat!

[@chrisbeck8182]

Running high-ash engine oil? Overheated?

[@MrTheHillfolk]

@@chrisbeck8182 you can darn near pee in them for oil if you ate a greasy steak the night before, there would be enough lubricity 🤣 Overheat/ and maybe sucking some dirt at one point in its life.

[@steveswallows8525]

Scott, that looks like an in frame at least. But what do I know?

[@nadlubgo]

Where is your Shop? I thought it will be built in January?

[@harriettedaisy2233]

He's about to get the down payment.

[@Wayoutthere]

Did piston slap caused those odd vertical scratches?

[@larrywalker7759]

No, that is "galling" of metal liner against metal piston during a past overheat event. Galling begins as 2 things happen during the overheat. The piston swells due to exaggerated expansion to the point that there is no room left for oil film, and the oil contacting the superheated surfaces instantly becomes too thin to lubricate. During galling, the oil is actually being scraped off by the metal to metal friction. Even a small amount of initial galling will ultimately continue destroying the cylinder affected, there is no healing process except replacing the damaged parts.

[@steveswallows8525]

That cylinder looks like it could use some help with all those groves.

[@TommyboyGTP]

But wait, there's more!

[@8068]

I see an in-frame overhaul on the horizon for this engine.

[@toobglued]

that is a lot of damn work.

[@ServantofYaHi777]

Did that engine get hot to cause that ?

[@manowaari]

Cool that D-Deck report showed about 52k miles, is that actual and is that kind of damage normal on those miles or does it have more miles? You did mention it had low oil, but surely that amount damage does not occur instantly?

[@TyphoonVstrom]

All it takes is one momentary score on a liner, and the whole process goes from there. I'd say overheated badly once and has gone downhill from there.

[@silasmarner7586]

Sooooo....why is this whole bank 'o' cylinders so utterly garfed up? Did this thing way overheat, or ??? Filter??? whuuuuhhh???

[@albertomoniz9051]

Over heat,one of the history codes were low coolent

[@anthonybendl8125]

Move it from the ER to the OR.

[@BLAMBERRY]

A heavy Detroit is a 2 million mile engine. Could it be that this power plant received no attention or love and thats why it has deteriorated?

[@robnamowicz8073]

Was that a TrailX trailer?

[@kenbryant2570]

That engine is a mess. I would not even think about it. I would replace the the pistons and liners. The bearings too. I would just do an in frame on that engine. If he is going to keep that bus for a ling time it would be money well spent.

[@rightytighty2261]

Thats going to be expensive.

[@bruceshenkel6991]

Beautiful bus gorgeous bus however that things needs a looooooooooooooooootta work.........

[@cmdrdarwin3682]

Holy cow! Was this engine run hot to cause that much damage?