Buy now or wait? | Intel Arc A770 in 2024 / 2025

[@IcebergTech]

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[@castielades]

Package detained by Customs Clearance Service lol no thank you aliexpress

[@karstenswiridjuk4747]

You should test this card and make a video about using it for video editing and other uses besides just gaming...from what I have seen from other reviews is that this card is awesome for editing. Happy New Year, keep up the good work, videos are always top shelf.

[@karstenswiridjuk4747]

Love that GUNNIR card too, they make some beautiful GPU's.

[@IcebergTech]

FYI, the B580 *finally* arrived and that video will be my first of 2025. This one should have been ready a week ago, except for... er, "reasons".

[@JoshuaSolanes]

A direct comparison between the A770 and B580 might be interesting also

[@yuukiya8982]

wow! looking forward!

[@LunarList]

I'd really like to see a behind the scenes about the physical clips from your videos

[@SL4PSH0CK]

Ngl a banger content for entering the year seeing how the card will grasp it

[@legomovieman2]

I know this is a weird use case, but have you tried emulation on the B580? Not seen a single video on KZbin actually do any testing, not even ETA Prime.

[@LewdSCP1471A]

This video is gonna age in about 10 hours

[@IcebergTech]

... assuming I don't change the title 😉

[@UltraVegito-1995]

I feel like the Alchemist is like prototype and the Battlemage is like the official GPU... Meanwhile UHD is the concept

[@Odinsday]

For an entire GPU lineup that was built from the ground up, the fact that it only took 2 years to get performance like Battlemage is incredible. Even with how broken Alchemist was, their passion for this GPU line up is obvious.

[@AlfaPro1337]

You forgot the Iris graphics, the successor of the U/HD graphics.

[@michaelkoerner4578]

Iris exists...

[@HunterTracks]

​@@OdinsdayIt's significantly less impressive when you consider that B580 has almost the same die size as a 4070. It's like a 16 core CPU that's barely keeping up with an 8 core from the competition, saying that this level of performance is impressive is a bit of a backhanded compliment.

[@waterfelon]

@@HunterTracksyeah you didnt even read what he said

[@DESARD12]

Titling it "in 2024" with less than 24 hours remaining for the new year is *devious.* Happy new year mate.

[@IcebergTech]

Pff, people complained when I made a video about Buying Used in 2024 on the 1st of Jan, I don't think I can win either way... 😞 HNY

[@ItzYell0w33]

⁠@@IcebergTechnah, better late than early

[@alex-o9o8q]

Well, all the games tested are from

[@hendrixc6988]

@@IcebergTech Just change the title tomorrow to 2025 :)

[@AikelJoseph]

that makes more sense than saying 2025 when the year's just begun

[@trueNahobino]

Been using my Asrock Phantom Gaming A770 for nearly a year now at 1440p, I've been very happy with it as it's been able to handle everything I've done with it, including 3d modeling, video editing, and AI. Very good card for only $300.

[@Lurch-Bot]

Very good until you look at some benchmarks and realize that it often doesn't perform any better than the $200 RX6600.

[@certs743]

Same here. I have the same version of the A770 and I have had a great time with it. Like AMD it just works in Linux with no fuss and in Canada it is $100 cheaper than any competing GPU so it was a no brainer for me.

[@Karti200]

I had A770 since release, and i moved to B580 literaly same day as reviews came out . And my overall opinion about Intel Arc cards (at least 5x0 and 7x0 series) did not change - this is not card for person that runs 1080p, but it is a GREAT entry level card for people that daily run 1440p - but only if you can get it in very decent price.... CoD MW3 2023 and Black Ops 6 runs very well even on A770 at 1440p

[@Thomas_Angelo]

Why not 1080p?

[@Mcnooblet]

Why is it not a card for a person that runs 1080p? Usually they scale down much better than they scale up. These days though, resolution doesn't equal resolution, it equals output so you never know what the heck someone is talking about these days. "its a 4k GPU!" while they upscale it from 720p.

[@Karti200]

​@@Thomas_Angelo it's getting outperformed by 3060 and 6600 in 1080p, while sharing puncher with 6700 and 4060 in 1440p. Why that? Because of 2 reasons → extra vram and wider bus. For 1080p you are not able to use the whole of your A770.

[@Karti200]

@@Mcnooblet it's the problem related to both software and hardware - Alchemist does not scale up well in 1080p you cannot really utilize whole chip we have there sadly. But becase of extra vram and wider bus compared to other cards, it jumps higher in 1440p and hnigher

[@Thomas_Angelo]

@Karti200 alr. I guess I can continue loving my 3060

[@nakomapala5388]

Perfect way to end the year

[@ashce10]

The real champions are the beta testers for alchemist so Battle mage could run

[@leotide1990]

If you want to play Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora, DO NOT BUY AN ALCHEMIST CARD! The iteration of the Snowdrop engine used in that game has known issues with constant, rhythmic stuttering that cannot be abated with any settings adjustments or different resolutions. However, the Battlemage cards - or at least the B580, since it’s the only one currently released - don’t exhibit this issue. It’s an architectural problem and not a driver issue.

[@connivingkhajiit]

this information is helpful to me, thank you. I have an ARC card and was tempted to try the game as a huge avatar fan.

[@mahockey3]

This is pretty bad for all 20 people playing that game

[@connivingkhajiit]

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[@mahockey3]

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[@connivingkhajiit]

@@mahockey3 you have my respect

[@mraltoid19]

A770 vs B580, I imagine, is going to be a LOT like comparing an R9-390X to an RX-480..comparable, with the newer one being a bit better, but using A LOT less power...SO, if you don't mind the power usage, it could be a good deal.

[@dagnisnierlins188]

Nope, b580 is completely broken in terms of performance, you can't extract all of the performance even with ryzen 7600x cpu, you need 9800x3d 😅 Driver overhead is ridiculous at the moment.

[@jussikankinen9409]

Nuclear plants better if life near, cannot save money cause not real

[@reyzafany1992]

2:45 Maybe the fine wine for Alchemist is to use Regular DXVK/Async DXVK. I've come across some videos on Alchemist that suggest it can significantly boost 1% and 0.1% low by over 40 FPS, and increase average FPS by 20 to 100 FPS, depending on the game. This improvement almost completely eliminates stuttering. Moreover, it enables GPUs to run games like Batman: Arkham Knight, which otherwise wouldn't even start due to poor compatibility with older DirectX drivers. At this point, Vulkan seems to be the "fine wine" for both AMD and Intel GPUs.

[@phenom957]

I just received a NUC12 Enthusiast Kit with the i7-12700H and an ARC A770M. Replacing my now failing R9 5950X with STRIX 3090. I am not gaming as much these days, and when I am it's just Stardew / Minecraft or some other small footprint title. It's nice to see that Alchemist is still receiving support, despite some setbacks still. The 16 GB is very nice. For what it is, I am happy with it. My only downside is my primary display has now gone to 4K xD

[@RuruFIN]

Almost got one in late 2022 but ended up with a 6700 XT since they were priced exactly the same (480EUR). Glad that I went for the Radeon, now serves me in my media-PC.

[@malomal4]

Impeccable timing! I've been trying to build a budget All Intel build and my local Microcenter has a bunch of A770s in stock. Gonna wait for the B580s to get back in stock having seen this video. Thanks!

[@carter7894]

Kind of a weird idea but I’m curious to see this card vs the Radeon VII

[@adi6293]

I got A770 16GB two weeks ago to play around with it , at 1440p with upscaling it runs all the games I play at Ultra settings at decent fps 80 - 100 - 140 depending on the game of course , probably wasn't worth the £269 I paid for the ASRock Phantom gaming OC but I was dying to try it out 😅 the drivers are pretty good, overclocked to 2651Mhz , I intend to keep it in my PC for 3 months then it will go back to the box and I will go back to my 7900XTX 🤪

[@Helikopterrrn]

With games like CS2 it would be nice to see lower but more frequently used resolutions like 1280x960 and 1440x1080, just to get an idea on how it'd perform with the typical competitive graphical preset

[@Marko-di3mb]

Actually majority of gamers switched to 1440p, and only handful are using stretch, so this does make sense.

[@Helikopterrrn]

@ not in cs2 lol

[@safnaf8737]

Watching this in new year of my country.

[@Mackm249]

My arc a750 usally preforms better than my 3060 with my experience with Alchemist. Alchemist has been working fine for me, and everytime i put my 3060 in my pc alot of the games i play stutters alot more and its a overall worse experience. Also for me when i turned on low latency mode + boost when it came out it fixed the fps drops in the dx11 games i play.

[@mattirealm]

It isn't the drivers. If it was the drivers, the B580 would have been crap, but it isn't. Intel had to redesign the Xe cores because they were flawed on these GPU's. They fixed a lot of issues with the new cores, and if you go out and listen to any of the interviews that Tom Peterson gave before Battlemage launched, he made this point A LOT! I personally don't think Alchemist is worth buying into, given the structural issues. Battlemage is going to expand in lineup and Intel has already stated that Xe3 is done now. If a person wants Intel, they should wait until Battlemage gets much better stock out to market and expands the lineup to (hopefully) include B700 series cards. Just my opinion.

[@Flank.Sinatra.]

high settings on entry level cards is insane. i have a 4070 ti and tune the settings. usually low with some medium. only high on those low taxing settings and only when i can notice the difference.

[@Mo-gk9qb]

happy new year iceberg, looking forward to the battlemage review! good video as always.

[@WallyP2]

Would love to see an updated video with the newest drivers for this card

[@GoldDmg]

Can't wait for the B580 Review :)

[@xDraga]

for cs2 there is a command you can add to launch options -vulkan that could do a complete 180°

[@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh]

Happy New Year

[@Dustin-d4z]

My a770 titan sparkle does amazing and you can get a big bump in 1% and .1% lows just by bumping the power budget up to 275 watts and nothing else I can get an extra 10 fps usually if I need it to pass 60 at higher settings

[@lauritz221]

Been dailying arc cards for about a year at this point, paired with a R7 5700X startet with a A750 (as the 3 fan sparkle variant was sub £200 at the time) and recently found a steal of a deal on a A770. and i honestly have no complaints about either of the arc cards, but i also dont care much for the latest and greatest triple a games, the main use for me is CAD programs and the ocasional gaming sesion of BeamNG or SnowRunner wich both cards have handled with no problems so far.

[@lamhkak47]

The blue really shines this time

[@milescarter7803]

13:22 Codes not working for USA?

[@davidpomerantz]

My b580 already arrived so I'll just have to hope

[@Heavy_Chevy]

Ah perfect timing to count down 2024

[@theMF69]

I have the A750, very similar performance and I bought it for £180 a year ago, and considering that was less than half the price of the 4060 back then, I'm still very impressed with the price to performance ratio.

[@Xeonzs]

I was very dissapointed by the a770 I put in my media PC (attached to my TV) the drivers didn't just suck in games, even when you open netflix or disney plus the screen goes black for a second or 2 the moment some movie preview starts autoplaying. I bought it simply cause I had had money to waste and wanted it as a shelf piece, but ended up putting it in a media PC (which I also didn't need to build really, but that's hindsight). The intent was to support the endeavor so that we'd have more competition on the GPU market and in that regard I'm glad we do have affordable budget options again. 'Tis also good for Intel honestly since their CPUs have been such hot garbage the current and last 2 generations. I have a 14th gen system collecting dust and would rather use my 11th gen system again with ddr4 simply cause it "just works" as daddy todd always says.

[@Tomazack]

I had an ASRock ARC A770 16GB which suffered from blackouts while watching videos from YT, Netflix or any other similar service. Got a new card through RMA and yeah, it was suffering from the same issue. Ditched A770 and went with Asus TUF OC RX 7800 XT and never had any such problems since.

[@Xeonzs]

@@Tomazack yea I also considered the 7800XT instead, seemed like a good balance between value and performance, shame I went A770 at the time. I was stupid anywya back then for buying shit I didn't need, so my own fault I guess.

[@Eonymia]

I imagine this would be something that's been worked out by now with the massive driver push they've been doing since release. Have you tried it recently?

[@Xeonzs]

@@Eonymia yea it's still in teh same machine, same issue persists

[@Eonymia]

@@Xeonzs Well that sucks

[@milescarter7803]

12:22 There is one saving grace for the 4060, the low power consumption means you can get a Low Profile version. As a matter of fact it's the only reasonably priced and performant low profile card to recommend (assuming you don't find a company unloading an Ada generation workstation card).

[@bryanwages3518]

I love my a770 but i have 2 conplaints. Intel did have a fps counter on there metric overlay and well with the new intel graphics software, they added the fps counter but got rid of the overlay. Like why did you do that also with the new update i cant share my screen on discord anymore. My framerate drops to the 20s. No matter what game i play. Also the new intel graphics software crashes all the time. I mean come on intel, what are you doing.

[@matgaw123]

I noticed problem with discord too

[@matgaw123]

For me Intel graphics software works well and never had any performance problems

[@adi6293]

Did you OC your card? I have a A770 and it's only crashed when I OC'ed too much

[@matgaw123]

@@adi6293 this or maybe weird CPU + GPU combination Like those Intel CPUs wchich sometimes fail

[@bryanwages3518]

@adi6293 yes I do but b4 the update, my oc was stable now it's not oc anymore.

[@zonta71]

What are the arc driver settings? Smooth sync or smart sync? Turn off vsync at driver level and use game settings for vsync on. Much better performance.

[@springbonnie6407]

09:55 you wrote Stalker 2 Heart Of Chornobyl Insteand Of Chernobyl.

[@IcebergTech]

I sure did.

[@springbonnie6407]

@IcebergTech At first i tought it was written like that in Ukrainian but i realised i had just gaslighted myself😭

[@Sengero]

For Cs 2 you should try Vulkan aswell its really easy to enable and works wonders for intel cards and should also show us how the game performs with other cards aswell

[@mikkelaagaard240]

i have this one with a samsung g9 49 i love it

[@jotaa9660]

who would ever tought intel would make a GPU so good that it sold out everywhere

[@desktopstu4145]

Had a look at Ali Express as of 31st Dec the cheapest B580 on express is £270 plus £16 P & P plus £55 import tax putting the price well over £300 which in my opinion is too much compared to the MRSP of £250.

[@FiveMissiles]

great video gane. thanks for

[@GamersGuildMaster]

I just picked up an A750 for $125. Just wanted to check it out, before putting into a build to sell. I'd say it's on par with 3050 8gb

[@lewisthegeek4307]

Hey I love your videos I have the 8 gb A770 version Asrock, can you do a video or would that be a waste?

[@sweatbox128]

do you plan on opening up a channel membership option in the future?

[@IcebergTech]

Maybe. I have a Patreon now but I'm not currently offering any perks, it's just a tip jar. What sort of thing would you like to see if I had memberships enabled?

[@sweatbox128]

@IcebergTech thanks for the reply. personally, I just enjoy interacting with creators more using memberships; I like the member community posts and exclusive discords, you might be able to livestream editing your videos or something if people were interested in that. I don't use patreon but want to contribute to people like you in ways that also give benefits to me. Just my 2 cents, I enjoy your content a lot

[@BonusCrook]

Will we be getting a B580 vs A770 vs 4060 video?

[@Marko-di3mb]

Lets be real even plain RX 6600 would probably be better choice despite lower perf. in some games, but it's just going to work everywhere. I even use it with 1440p monitor... just need to adjust details in some games of course.

[@chomper720]

Still trying to make up my mind between the ARC B580 and upcoming RX 8600?

[@Malaphisis]

B770

[@corey2232]

It'll depend heavily on the price. I'm not sure AMD will offer a card at $250 with comparable performance, but maybe they'll price more aggressively because of pressure from Intel.

[@vanfly6731]

if only there was a work around on Re-bar for incompatible units

[@misterPAINMAKER]

Is the ARC B580 better than the ARC A770?

[@eclipsegst9419]

I already have a 6700xt so I'll wait for the B770 or C580 but I am definitely thinking hard about switching to Intel. I don't care about DLSS, or RT in games except a few that do it well, but I do care about RT in Blender, and Stable Diffusion performance, which AMD is very poor at. The B580 even beats my 6700xt in those things handily but it's a gaming side grade so I'll wait.

[@robindebondt4643]

Your discount codes only work in the UK?

[@IcebergTech]

I'm checking with AE, but for the moment, yes I'm afraid so

[@ferdinandsantiagojr1272]

From that list is only three games that I play CSGO2 and the new Indiana Jones, and ratchet and clank at 1080p on my sparkle A770 and I’m getting much higher frames than that I don’t know maybe it’s because of my CPU or my RAM

[@Voldson]

Video went out just in time 😅

[@justarandomkid2216]

Guys, I think we should wait.

[@sofiane8082]

Wake up me, iceberg just uploaded.

[@headbreakable]

better than the radeon should be enough for intel's low end, AMD is been around how long since they brought ATI?

[@catherinemorgan2741]

Or even never winter kind of games played so I can make a change in GPU

[@Mr.maffii]

Should I buy a RTX 4060 low profile or wait for next generation I need a good low profile card my budget is 200 dollars

[@wagnonforcolorado]

The cheapest LP 4060 on Amazon is $330. I'd wait for a few weeks, and see if any new LP cards are released. Sadly, LP gets very little love from GPU manufacturers...huge price premium and usually released months or years after a particular gpu generation debuts.

[@Mr.maffii]

@wagnonforcolorado thanks for your advice mate

[@corey2232]

4060 is going to cost a lot more than that, and it'll offer worse performance despite the increased price. And given what the leaks have said about the 50xx series, expect the price to go up even more, with the 5060 only coming with 8GB of VRAM (STILL!) Also, the rumors are that Nvidia plans to release the 5070, 5070 Ti, 5080 & 5090 in the next few months, but the 5060 won't come until quite a bit later in the year.

[@lunardata8080]

I daily drive an a750, and i can confidently say that i can play 90% of all games with no issue. The other 10% is mainly driver over head, so unless you have a beffy cpu, you won't get the max performance from your card. I wouldn't recommend an alchemist card unless it's for a good price. Also, the b580 doesn't have as much of a driver overhead because it runs features natively instead of emulating like alchemist. I cant really recommend alchemist new when battlemage exist.

[@MarsMarsTitan]

why is ddr6 video ram 2000mhz?

[@raresmacovei8382]

While I know 6750 GRE is basically 6700 10 GB and should be faster than 6650 XT ... but it's still barely faster than it, accounting for stock clocks for all.

[@Rmstrjim]

6:07 SHOW ME WHERE THE 'K' IS IN THAT WORD LIMEY 😂

[@kaithong8482]

fine wine, more like fine for 1080p low

[@d4nith3]

Waith for RTX 5060Ti 16GB GDDR7

[@elwinroyale]

Did you know there's also an 8GB a770

[@pupyboy7788]

Still waiting for the r.i.d vega vii(7) video pls

[@IcebergTech]

The RID site appears to be offline, and the last update on Sourceforge was months ago. I'm wondering if the developer has stopped working on them?

[@pupyboy7788]

@@IcebergTech i didn't check well sorry for the inconvenience and happy new year!

[@pupyboy7788]

@@IcebergTech sorry but one last thing make a video with ryzen 9 5950x paired with the 6700xt (that's my setup)

[@JBrinx18]

​@@pupyboy7788I think HWUB has that exact setup tested on launch day for that card

[@grayhowls]

They are still working on it, and have a new version done, but they're waiting for something on Microsoft's end iirc?

[@Dingbat1967]

Nice. Yeah looks like the old arc cards aren't gonna be as good.

[@Calypso694]

I was just thinking about this 😂

[@bumbaclot813]

What a great New years gift. Also, it sucks being reminded of how much a disappointment starfield was.

[@tonymontalvo2004]

Stop reading my mind!

[@IcebergTech]

No

[@jonjohnson2844]

I really don't get the buzz around the B580...it's keeping up with 3 year old mid range cards, wow.

[@trueNahobino]

Uhh... since when is the 4060 3 years old?

[@DavisSgt]

It's literally the only budget current gen offering under 300$ & beats the RTX4060 & RX 7600 for way less..

[@drewnewby]

At £270, neither the A770 or B580 is a buy. That said, the A770 is quite a bit slower, roughly 1080 Ti level. The real comparison would be with the B570, assuming we ever see it at list price.

[@takehirolol5962]

Well, market share in the main market is possible. World-wide, Intel is not winning...PC gaming for most of the planet is a huge investment, Intel not locally selling their GPUs is not good... But I will not recommend ever a new build with a 8 GB GPU...

[@mrich70]

I had no idea how weak the A770 was. I would rather iust buy a console.

[@Oka_z]

It's just broken , theoritically it's faster than the 3060 12gb but it's actually faster in only specific software , and never in game where it's buggy esspecially when the game are'nt dx12

[@Flomockia]

On Linux it's faster using vulkan drivers for majority of the games

[@connivingkhajiit]

@@Flomockia in my experience, native vulkan games have had lots of issues, but games that use specifically DXVK (non-native DX9-11) run incredibly well.

[@Flomockia]

@@connivingkhajiit which distro were you using and were you running a Nvidia GPU?

[@connivingkhajiit]

@@Flomockia Fedora 41 KDE. Intel Sparkle Arc A770.

[@jussikankinen9409]

A770 needs driver soaping

[@Flomockia]

Im suprised seeing the a770 do badly most my games i run 1440p medium or max and almost always get 60fps stable or 50fps then again i do run Linux

[@JayPadrino]

I am also running 1440p and it just can't hang.

[@Flomockia]

@JayPadrino what games you running?

[@dbunik44]

wait...get the Battlemage

[@GameFrostYT]

Wait till it becomes $100

[@waterfelon]

Slight mis wording on indiana jones and the great circle

[@Kreeschon]

10:00 waiting on the STALKER devs to optimize anything is like waiting for Intel to stop making 250+ Watt CPU's. it's not gonna happen and the only reason you'd bring it up is if you're trying to be funny

[@virtualwasteland]

Coming from a gtx1080 the a770 seems like a solid upgrade when comparing specs on techpowerup with double the vram and compute for the same power but it gets bad when you take in consideration that it performs like a 4060 that uses half the energy and since I dont really play any new games its not worth it, maybe the 50 series will provide the generational leap...

[@minizamorak]

yea the a770 is just a bad card even with the driver updates, if u can get it for around 200 id say its worth it

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

*Intel Arc A770 on the last day of 2024!

[@Arax.__.]

Spent 248 USD on my a770. Great for NEWER games. Older Games like the suffering and halo custom edition do not run well or at all. And Linux can be a trip and a half for functionality.

[@p_sn00ter]

A770 was made for 1440p.... Playing at 1080p is intentionally crippling the card

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Do not buy A770 . Intel is stopping production of it, focus is on B580 and B570 . Drivers will not get much better because hardware is inherently flawed. Finally, there is a pressure on AMD to lower prices, so it is better to wait for something like 6700XT to drop in prices.

[@Dj-Mccullough]

I hate to say this, but with how much games have sucked the last year, I really could not care less about games and gaming use of graphics cards. Im finding that AI functionality is proving to be way more intriguing than all these low effort games. The Ai performance of a graphics card is more interesting until good games start coming out again.

[@cxngo8124]

watching this is 2025 😐

[@oj2416]

archh

[@vlassistsakiris9116]

Jesus in 2025 driver problems 😢😢😢😢

[@Sundayinthelife]

I don’t understand the complaints about star wars outlaws. #1, it’s a great game. #2, it runs great on both my Ryzen 5 3600 w/ an RX 6700 build. I also have a better setup that runs even better, but that is irrelevant. I play the game on both computers, depending on where I want to be in my house. I recommend the Hardware Unboxed optimized settings, but honestly the presets are fine.

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

As usual,the driver is the issue!!

[@keithmiller9665]

and for all the game review videos not a word about its video transcoding performance. YAWN ! 😮

[@JayPadrino]

I purchased a sparkle a770 16gb for $200, I must say I am not satisfied at all. Compared to my nephews 3070ti, arc has piss poor performance. I don't recommend this card to anyone. Just stick to Nvidia or amd

[@returo7297]

B850?

[@StrixWar]

hey a card i actually own lol

[@milescarter7803]

8:00 Sony ports have a history of poor running 🤷🏼‍♂️