Buying a Banshee Killer!!! Big Bore Suzuki Quadracer

[@2vintage]

Still time to post your bike of the month at : 2vintagerider.com/community/

[@AshKFW]

2vintage note. Squad

[@davidbarnes8921]

Clapped top end not minty

[@HondariderLee]

Get a honda250r 2 stroke

[@davidbarnes8921]

@@HondariderLee I have 2

[@ryryboyle6126]

Banshee killer? More like comment killer... just look at the comments everyone is talking shit 🤣🤣

[@nathanjunior5218]

Bored over on a stock pipe? Interesting... side note that motor sounds like somethings up with it hopefully not that bottom end

[@n2vxc]

he will give us the oh it has great compression line while he pushes it with his hand, yah id take my own compression readings,,,i highly doubt its 140 psi...

[@joshf8097]

Sounds like the rod bearing is shot. That happens on the CR500s as well. The little caged roller bearing where the piston pin and the rod meet... when it's time to do a top-end the cage roller bearing sometimes just decides to crap out and it will make that ticking and rattling noise. But a side note, it could just be a bunch of random loose nuts and bolts too. them things shake like Jack hammers ya know?

[@joshf8097]

And as far as people using the stock pipe I've seen it before people do the craziest stuff. Honestly really wouldn't surprise me. Thankfully it's a 2 stroke and they're not that reactive to pipe changes a lot of people think you need to do crazy jetting changes with a new pipe and you don't. At least not for me. I have an FMF gnarly on my CR250 I left the jetting alone and my plug is still a chocolatey Brown. And that's with the stock jetting. I'm not saying the pipe doesn't change the characteristic of the power because it does my bike clearly has more low-end then it did before but it's also sacrificing top end to get it. but still not sacrificing a lot at all. It probably will drastically change the power curve but not really drastically change the jetting. That's all I'm saying I can only go by what FMF recommended to me and they literally recommended me my stock jetting. But then again I do live at sea level and maybe that has a factor as well. I imagine when you live at or near sea level the jetting probably doesn't fluctuate all that often so my statement is definitely open for criticism but this is just what I have discovered on my own and from other mechanics near me. I do all my own work and I can only speak for myself at the end of the day.

[@_aakashpandey]

@@n2vxc 😂

[@danieltinsley8462]

I think it needs a new crank and new top end (piston rings/rehone cylinder)

[@mathemacits2400]

Prolly the crank bearings is the rattling

[@jacko3841]

Sounds like the conrod might have a bit of up and down play. It's gonna shit itself very soon so I would split the cases and change it now before it ruins the whole engine

[@jacko3841]

@Mike Lyons I can't tell. I said it might

[@Hanky_Bannist8r]

A Big bore with a stock pipe and silencer ? She sounded pretty noisy in the top end. It's nice looking for sure.

[@josephkemp4404]

Hey I entered in your bike of the month last month with my 87 lt250r, just a few things, I highly doubt that's actually a 300cc big bore given the condition of the rest of the quad and also the fact it still has a stock carb and then the fact that it's still on a stock pipe and silencer, I dont think somebody would spend money on a big bore and not upgrade the exhaust when used fmfs are available for 100-150 bucks all the time, also if it really was a big bore it would most likely be a trinity 295. Take the top end apart I'd like to if it really is, you should probably do the top end because that's definitely piston slap your hearing, normally on a good motor you just here a whooshing from the balance shaft. Your rear shock is also blown. It probably needs a arm bearings given the condition of the a arms and probably rear linkage and swingarm bearings.

[@josephkemp4404]

I should add on here as well doing a big bore isnt easy on these, on a stock cylinder you can get up to a 69.7mm piston if I remember right but then your only at 265 cc, getting an actually big bore done will put you well over 1000 bucks, you need to remove the old sleeve machine the cylinder, install the new sleeve, machine the cases to accept the larger sleeve, then you've have to port the new sleeve to the desired specs for the application, you'll need either a piston from something else like a trx big bore that has the correct dimensions or get a custom wossner piston made, on top of that already you need to remachine the head to match the squish to the larger piston and last youd need to order custom gaskets from cometic. Its alot of work and money to pull off on one these quads. I'll be doing one on mine but be a 296-318cc if I stay stock stroke.

[@Snide01]

It's funny how all of the "experts" come crawling out of the wood work to tell you what you need to do, and how you need to do it on all of your videos.. It has to be a bit annoying sometimes!! Have fun guys, looks like a cool project quad.. Learning comes with time and experience. If these experts have all of the answers, and think they can do better, then they should make their own channel.. You guys create great and fun to watch content for KZbin!! Thanks and Take Care..

[@whomattjones3580]

It doesn't take an expert to tell a clapped out quad from a mint one. This kid is just so clueless its hilarious. Its pretty obvious this kid doesn't learn from time and experience.

[@Snide01]

@@whomattjones3580 Who would expect a late 80's quad for 1200 to be "mint", and why would you want to pay for someone else's work when you can do things cheaper yourself? These guys are kids. All kids learn.. Jealous much? Is your ego hurting? Be humble.. If you don't like his content there's an easy solution, don't watch it.. The term "clapped out' sounds like a term for gays boys who had a bad night btw

[@FadedbyJay]

The reason he doesn't learn is cause he never truly fixes anything...puts a little paint and cosmetic stuff then ships it off to the next guy

[@codybuckley6561]

The bolt that mounts the top end to the frame is straight missing! Could have alot to do with it sounded bad in the topend

[@dilloncollins7521]

Ticks like a clock. Crank bearings...or possibly the motor mount missing on the top end?

[@CainSample]

😂 never was considered a banshee killer....even bored out. ..sry to burst your bubble

[@westcoastlifestyle5916]

Hes confused with the 500 quadzilla. That was the banshee killer. The 250 wouldnt stand a chance.

[@johnsmith-oh2xo]

Stock for stock the lt250r motor makes more power and will indeed beat a banshee like i said stock vs stock........................

[@johnsmith-oh2xo]

oh and it is the lt500r that was called the banshee killer and the lt250 88-92 power valve motor is the one i'm talking about not the early 85-86....

[@CainSample]

I think thats your powervalve making all that noise

[@Hahajones24]

This channel is legit POV of getting a bike and 3 rips up and 1 street and the occasional “trail ride” which is your back yard 🤣

[@andysims6478]

Was new plastics at some point before someone cut the front fenders off

[@lazarmrsic5623]

That back shock needs work it’s super springy

[@connerjones7902]

Hey just a heads up, i bought a yamaha blaster about a year ago and was told it leaked oil out of the shifter seal. Turns out, I took the stator cover off, and there was a fairly large hole in the crankcase right behind the front sprocket. I had to get it welded shut.

[@yfz350twin]

There was a KX 500 for sale in Dubuque for quite some time this past summer down near the courthouse.

[@kaidenseaman8895]

Hey big guy it's best if u gotta aftermarket pipe if bored n it needs back shock

[@thomasmcdougall8059]

What you selling behind the scenes? Heroin. Coke. Weed or phycadelics

[@OGKILLa9365]

rear shock its blown, engine is noisey. it's clapped. most likely needs a new top end.

[@splashdog8704]

John new piston for sure. Maybe some new packing in the silencer.

[@anthonybaker7918]

That’s gonna be a bit of a project to be a banshee killer

[@zackcalfee4844]

That rear shock is pogo sticking, I'd say ya got that quad pretty cheap didnt ya be a good project bike tho

[@downsouth701]

Tons of mods yeah right all i see is some cheap ass maier plastics. Banshee killer i dont think so buddy

[@alex-sanddevil5093]

Luv Dem Rotti's frs he down graded clapped out

[@Sleeper_Banshee]

Lol how you go from the banshee to this? If you have ever ridden a banshee that ran good and had a few decent mods, you know that they can’t be beat.

[@joshgessinger4509]

Man $1200 hard finding deals like that today. Love the LT 250r underestimated by many people idk why. Lite powerful fast machine i had a 85 and 86 was clocked doing 100mph down the road. Had fully built race engine geared up but still impressive.

[@tristenkiesow4061]

I still love that my blaster (banshee’s lil brother) can keep up with my brothers quad racer and his yfz 450 on the road. And whip his ass in the tight trails or in a sand/gravel pit. Put you might wanna try to get your hands on a tecate 4. My dad had a tecate 3 and a empty tecate 4 frame so he motor swapped them and the tecate 3 was the fastest between, 250r, and the tri-z. And he eats 500s and 350s

[@lafountainmountain3244]

No way your blaster is beating any of those quads in any situation. I like blasters for what they are but still

[@tristenkiesow4061]

@@lafountainmountain3244 I have a 3mill airsal set up. My motor makes more than those 250s. And I have yfz a arms and shocks and a rear elka. It's as wide as a yfz with 2+ a arms. It's a nasty woods quad

[@zackcalfee4844]

Noisy engine DOES not mean it needs a piston I dont kno where your getting that, as many bikes you have owned you kno good n well that it needs the cases split and new rod bearings and then new piston and rings

[@maxharper716]

I've owned like 3 bikes and I know that's not the piston

[@joshgessinger4509]

85-92 the quadracer was made. Owned a 85 and 86 my 86 was ported pipes head milled geared go 100mph. That one u found is a deal but have to get a good pipe for it the stock is very restrictive.

[@brianj123458]

Banshee killer lol yea right. Not even close. But the lt250 are a fun bike great video. My banshee does 81 mph stock with pipes and jetting will be watching

[@bronxnm]

I just bought a stock banshee with Toomey pipes and I think I need to rejet it because sometimes it bogs or it has a hard time cutting on. I usually stand the bike on it’s two back wheels until the carburetor leaks out and it kicks over on the first kick every time. I just don’t know what jets to put it the carburetor. I stayed in Columbia Sc, density altitude is between 2800-2200 ft and the temperature is between 90-80 degrees. Oh yeah I also clean the carburetor and it is still bogging and hard start. Do you have any idea on what I should do?

[@brianj123458]

@@bronxnm if you can tell me the jet size I can give an ideal on what area you need to be in. But with what you said I would think a 27.5or30 pilot jet and maybe between a 270&290 main jet. But I can say for sure. Do you still have the TORS on mine was really boggy when I bought it the first thing I did was get rid of the TORS and all was good. Hope this helps if you have anymore qeustion just ask good luck

[@bronxnm]

Main jet is 290 Pilot jet is 25 Float needle was on the 3rd groove, but I changed it to the 4th groove to have it tune for the k&n filter and the t5 pipe. I also found out that the left carburetor float wasn’t at its normal spec so I bent the tab to get it to 21mm. My gas and oil ratio is 32:1 using red line two stroke racing oil. Oh yea the TORS is disconnected too

[@brianj123458]

@@bronxnm I would try a 280 and I would think 25 would be to lean I would try a 27.5 and bring it back to the 3rd groove on the needle, adjust the idle screw all the way out make slide drop all the way then adjust idle screw in until you feel the slides move and then once they start moving go 2.5 turns in then adjust the slides to the center of the glass eyes up top. Then turn the air/fuel screws all the way in and then turn 1.5 turns out and then start it and you should be able to fine tune from there. There is some good video on how to synchronize carbs on southern Texas banshee he has lots of great videos to help I think the videos name on his channel is called how to synch carbs. Anything else I can help you with let me know have a great day and good luck

[@brianj123458]

@@bronxnm also do you still have the TORS on top of the carb? If you do I would delete those before you change any jets or anything. You can watch the video on southern Texas Banshee to do TORS delete good luck

[@lukecombs5659]

The first year for the lt250r was 1985 it was the first high performance 2 stroke racing atv then in 86 Honda built to this day the best racing atv the mighty trx250r those old lt250s are garbage good luck with it best move it down the road man

[@aaronronnebaum5469]

Luke Combs amen to that I’ve got a 265r nacs bike!

[@carsonsmith3959]

Top End destroyed, and your shock is blown out, I had the same shock bounciness when I got my 250

[@gtisid]

i would have held out for the kx500. would like to see a complete rebuild again. what happened to the RM that you tidied up?

[@WheelLoveTV]

This is wat Im getting ready to purchase within this month 🙌🏽🙏🏽 Tuned in!

[@camc7187]

It’s probably not a banshee killer....

[@n2vxc]

hahah oh you know were gonna see videos titles " insane fast, Top Speed" insane. lol "

[@joebrownfield7946]

Suzuki anything ain't touching a banshee

[@nitroboynik]

I strongly agree the Banshee will kill the 500 quadzilla to, ride a 4mil, or bigger stroker banshee, with good port work

[@joshjosh3779]

Hahaha i laughed. As soon as i herd him say that. Banshees are nasty. Love em ....stick to my yamahas. I have a built raptor. And wouldnt go anything else

[@msims1985]

@@nitroboynik stock vs stock the quadzilla kills the banshee. Just so much more aftermarket support for the banshee. But mod the 500 to its potential and it would be tough to find a banshee to beat it

[@its_just_me7057]

Nice shock and wrist pin!!!!

[@ryanhutton8972]

loading it is the hard part, unloading all you gotta do is push it out, it has suspension for a reason. but its nice to be careful with them sometimes

[@koiireland]

How is that the next best thing to a kx500?..140psi?.probly watches Yr channel and knows ye don't check it

[@rmB-up6it]

Ouch has some serious top end rattle pull that too and check it may just need rings

[@reubenkoehn122]

Hey 2vintage I love your channel I’m not trying to be mean or act like I know it all but I think your back shock is shot. Nice quad racer btw

[@lukecombs5659]

Oh and the rear tires are stock and the rear shock is toast and definitely not a banshee killer lol

[@maxharper716]

First off if hes buying a quad for a grand it will most likely need work two that bike ain't worth 1000 maybe 800 or less

[@jacoblatour6192]

its funny how one year later this same quad is worth 3500-4000

[@GreeneAlien]

86 ATC 250r or CR500. Or maico 500! I’m always watching

[@Smokinbighit]

So I watched the whole video now. And you bought a bone stock lt250r. But for 1000 bucks you scored a decently clean machine.

[@josha5563]

Smokinbighit only thing not stock is the plastics but man lots of other issues even for 1k

[@wadeperkins6746]

I thought it had new back tires ? Those are old.

[@manuelchavira9142]

Wade Perkin Fr 😂😂

[@lukecombs5659]

Yes that's the original factory rear meats and they have maybe 20% tread left

[@wadeperkins6746]

@@lukecombs5659 what happened with the new tires he had on the add ?

[@lukecombs5659]

Wade Perkins they were new in 86 😂😂😂

[@dwalker2431]

Change the ball joints for sure i had a 92

[@travisoneal5261]

I had an 1987lt250r . My friend had a 1994 banshee, it was piped. My quadracer was piped, reeds, pwk carb. First 4 gears the quadracer would eat the banshee.. after that the banshee would pull on past me and keep walking away. But in a short drag race I always won, the suzuki was also much better in the woods, or anyway where low end power counted.

[@Johnbruzzi4234]

What is your deal with the lights

[@OldestYoungenInGuidePost]

The tic over is high because the crankshaft bearings are probably the original ones , it's a shed!🤷🏼‍♂️

[@machines1431]

Rear shock needs rebuilt

[@erreseis1]

A 250 quadracer is NOT a banshee killer. Never has never will!

[@maxharper716]

@Mike Lyons on a track maybe a drag race wouldn't realy matter abt the rider

[@maxharper716]

@Mike Lyons that is true a rolling start would be fair but tbh he doesn't realy know how to ride a 2 smoker

[@wadeperkins6746]

I had a quad racer that would smoke a STOCK banshee. It was modified of course. Now a modified Banshee , would beat me in a drag race but not necessarily on the track.

[@tristenkiesow4061]

Hahaha this is funny my brother and his friend they have ltr250 big bore, and a 521 cub banshee and the quad racer wins every time

[@keithparady2594]

Where can I find a 05 kfx 400 crankcase mine threw the chain and grabbed the shifter jus thought I’d ask for ur advice

[@its_just_me7057]

That bike ain't killing no Banshee!!!!!!

[@cxvasqu]

What site(s) do you use when shopping around?

[@stores1553]

Honestly before u buy something I’d check out first alittle bit and sense it sounds clapped you should do a full build on it

[@JJLyon-xg5co]

Why was the first vid of this bike removed earlier

[@chrislayne427]

Changed name i think so he could add killer in title without getting demonitized

[@Smokinbighit]

That’s funny Hartford is not far from my house at all.

[@msims1985]

Anyone know what oil to put in the crankcase of an 87 Tecate 4? The old manual says 10w40 motor oil but not sure if that would be the best option now.

[@msims1985]

@@motofarmmx2430 thanks man. I run that in my high hp boosted cars. Conventional or synthetic?

[@rigguyjt]

Good deal Joe. I guess it's just people in Wisconsin that don't fix all the problems on bike and quads before they sell them. It's to your benefit but it would be nice to buy something you didn't have to work on.

[@Marcus-o8o]

so supposibly it has a 300cc cylinder but ithas a stock pipe and everything but plastic n tires are oem

[@ChiefTrapHustle]

Bud I think the banshee is better than the Quadracer just my opinion, great video

[@Lucas-eu3fq]

Engine doesn't sound too healthy

[@joshuacampbell4800]

*stock 250 that's clapped and has already busted off the case saver* no way that has a big bore kit. What makes you think its has a big bore kit? just cause that kid told you?

[@mxbeanz1206]

Went in on him haha these videos are gold.. it's hard not to get mad xD

[@2strokesmoke857]

No one sell this man a 500 plz

[@occif2023]

I have found that people who lie or dont know about the year also lie about the bore size. Not saying this is the case here but double check before you order a top end kit. I have made that mistake and now have a piston in my shop that I dont fit any bikes that I own.

[@andyshelly3473]

another blue engine ?

[@tpghl5225]

Sounds all rattly on the top end, probably piston slap. Sounds like it needs some work, rear suspension is shot.

[@geopioneergsxr5357]

You have the much start lever too far forward on your foot, especially for kicking an old quad over. If it kicks back hard you're breaking your ankle! The lever should be more towards the back of the arch of your foot, so if it does kick back it'll put all that energy into your whole leg instead of just your ankle.

[@zackcalfee4844]

You win some and lose some gonna have a hard time with that thing man it's pretty much junk, you messed up selling that purple banshee, and no that wouldn't touch that banshee at all..good video tho as long as ya happy

[@maxharper716]

I wouldn't sell the banshee for that thing the money he would make out of it would have to be put in that quad racer

[@southernslipping4225]

Banshee is better for sure but the one he just got ain’t junk easy to rebuild motor

[@m8fusion712]

I love the 250 quadracer's, its a really nice quad good video

[@joshf8097]

Wow a Banshee killer a 500 that's gotta have like eight geas right? Top speed 120 mph STOCK GEARING Lol . I'm just joking, relax guys. LOL love the videos man keep up the good work. I swear I'm just messing around. Good luck with the new project

[@BaltaM4ster]

i think is the pipe rattling

[@coltonmick8610]

those are the stock rear tires.

[@4chan393]

I think it needs a bit of wd40 and it'll be brand new

[@fredfrost1121]

The lt250 isn’t the banshee killer the lt500 aka quadzilla was the banshee killer

[@ericmacnichol3791]

I'll race you Joe, I've got a built and modded 421 stroker banshee.

[@Smokinbighit]

You cannot bore a 250 quadracer to a 300

[@codybuckley6561]

What state do you live in?

[@occif2023]

WI

[@barron1122]

Banshee killer lol gotta be joking right😂😂

[@jesusdelgadilloiii684]

Love the title

[@austind191]

I guess you like what you do, buy and flip... But that thing sound more like a blaster, and it's not a banshee killer , that's why they came out with the Lt500! And I bet the engine is all stock too. I'll be waiting to see that race, let Chuck ride the banshee 👍

[@snowrunneraddict7461]

Do you even lift bro lol good video man and that's a minty quad..btw good seeing minty jade lol.

[@crystaljenkins3564]

Love your videos great job

[@jillparsons4547]

They made Suzuki LT250R quadracers from 1985 to 1992

[@davidgurbisz6474]

Definitely not a Banshee killer, even on it’s best day.

[@poppawheelie6925]

Sounds like crank bearings my blaster made the Same noise

[@chrisdills2885]

the 250 was never a Banshee Killer...just FYI

[@250R4life]

Lol trx250r with a real Big Bore 350 cylinder is the banshee killer😂😂 show me a nice quad that runs well

[@aaronronnebaum5469]

250R4life amen!

[@Desert-brat]

Don’t tell him that I’d hate to see him get one and ruin it :(

[@DAndy4201]

why would u ride it when it w ounds like that man

[@JnJ_Cars]

85 was first year

[@hotsauce7522]

First year was 1985

[@southernslipping4225]

Getting it off is easier than getting it loaded

[@marinava3731]

You should get a Yamaha raptor 350

[@kevinmiller5722]

You know there aint nothing that runs like a Banshee you can modify the hell out them to they will do over a 100 with the right mods.

[@anthonyk6265]

150 hp bamshee kits on ebay

[@jeffferguson899]

Needs more minty Jade.

[@thedancingpickle6362]

NOW DON'T SELL THIS IF IT KILLS A BANSHEE DON'T SELL IT! Edit ( even if the thing doesn't kill the banshee please don't sell it)

[@brianj123458]

It will not kill a banshee

[@2strokesmoke857]

My banshee will smoke anything u have 😂

[@rictan6866]

kickstart boots pedal fun with it

[@jjoeabhn2526]

Clap clap clap clap clap

[@jerry-ii2pm]

Plastic an seat yea that's worth 1500 bucks I guess??

[@Desert-brat]

He Over paid for a stock clapped lt250r

[@AngryScottishGamer-nx7gu]

the rattle is real hahaha