By the Star - Caravan of Qur'anic Contemplation: Tadaburat #85

[@Lens.Grinder]

This is one of the most beautiful sessions so far. Especially the sufi turn with the female speaker. I really enjoyed it.

[@mohamadnymeri3048]

I loved the conversation between Khaled and Shaima. Good topic, nice dynamic between you guys and great insights. You should start a podcast

[@OMAR-REZA-HAMiM-77]

Please do translate The wise Qur'an it'd be great 👍😸

[@Shaima_Yacoub]

This aya ties in beautifully to our discussion in my view. Ibrahim 14:43 مُهْطِعِينَ مُقْنِعِى رُءُوسِهِمْ لَا يَرْتَدُّ إِلَيْهِمْ طَرْفُهُمْۖ وَأَفْـِٔدَتُهُمْ هَوَآءٌ The people described here just keep going with no limit that effectively causes them to stop.. they race ahead in their delusion of false reassurance and their whole way of thinking is encompassed in hawaa'. This طرف is like the sidra that should cause a true abd of Allah to STOP, go back and readjust.

[@QuranicIslam]

👍 Jazakallah

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

If hawa is a desire to please yourself to the extent of being in disservice to Allah you are no longer an abd of Allah. He knows those abds who have subdued their desires in service to Him so he turns to them mercifully and they satisfy their hawa in His Grace, whilst others desire no difference between lover and beloved and He keeps breaking their hearts each time they repent until they are intoxicated with love, No difference between drunkard and drink.

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

​@@QuranicIslamhow do i contact you?

[@QuranicIslam]

@@Nellytheelephant2012 But that doesn't mean you an 'abd to someone else, doesn't it?

[@QuranicIslam]

@@Nellytheelephant2012 Either Reddit, Twitter or email

[@MrMShake]

4:15 is basically an inspiration for Dr Strange "dormammu i've come to bargain" lol

[@QuranicIslam]

😆

[@nikobellic3096]

Assalamu Alikum, please discuss music in your next live, Jazak Allah

[@QuranicIslam]

I don't really have much to say on it to be honest

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

I do have one important thing to say about music. Sound is measured by frequency. There is a natural frequency of sound in which the Quran exists. Music uses sine a synthetic frequency that is between 20-40hrtz. It a taghout that blinds you from Allah. The music synthetic frequencies are so powerful they take over your mind body and soul. You are in full servitude, you even get images of what the music intended to programme you with. You are in servitude to that rather than allah. natural frequency music should remind you of the divine having pure thoughts and being in service to Allah. The sine frequency music is changing the creation of Allah. manipulation of sound to make you commit shirk. I recommend you stop listening to sine frequency music which is everything today. Best to recite the Arabic quran, it produces frequency divinely tuned to a frequency that will bring you closer to Allah.

[@prayasaneffort3231]

Allah has not prohibited music instruments ..your subjective qayas don't force on others ..Music is not forbidden don't put your words as Divine.​@@Nellytheelephant2012

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

@@prayasaneffort3231 you make statement without using your intellect to get to the wisdom of the Qur'an. Sine frequency is a synthetic frequency they use to program you. This is a fact. You can see the fruits of the music industry from the pop idols who turn satan worship. This stuff is on public record. Are you denying the science and the clear stanic agenda behind the music industry? You make stupid comments calling me arrogant, pride and have no evidence to back your nasty vile false allegations. You haven't even taken it back like you have a privilege from Allah to call humble believers arrogant.

[@nikobellic3096]

​​@@Nellytheelephant2012 Bro I think you are a bit pessimistic, I know you follow Sheikh Imran Hosein, I too follow him but disagree with him on certain matters! Please learn some manners and ethiquets and learn to be patient

[@IMHS21]

Interesting stream as always, may Allah reward you. It seems clear that there was a decent of one angel (Jibril) two times. Which in and of itself is for a human certainly one of the greatest signs of Allah. The location of the first meeting appears to be physical in this world. The second one, regarding the lote tree, needs more research or thought. Was it also physical or was this a spirtual one without ascending, in a 'dream format' Maybe the words can be translated differently or extra quranical sources, or even other Quran verses might give some answer? There are other verses about Angels descending like surah al Qadr. How do you think verses 17:90-93 relate to an ascension, they seem to rule it out. And what do you think about the night journey, verse 17:1?

[@QuranicIslam]

I don't see why it can't be both physical and spiritual, that as he saw a descent physically he experienced it spiritually bc it was a descent of an angel/wahy "on/into" him. Yes, definitely a lot more research needs to be done but I haven't really gone more than what I showed here. Yep Q17:90-93, in the same sura as the Israa', rules out a possible mi'raj and further shows that "they" (the opponents) didn't dispute with the Prophet regarding any sort of ascension since they were asking for one. I completely forgot about that! Here it is also not even called a mi'raaj ... the word used is raqaa' (to rise) We also have no narrations of Meccans denying the mi'raaj As for Q17:1, yes it refers to the Israa of the Prophet I think. I don't think it is about Musa as some Quranists say.

[@easky363]

​@QuranicIslam I thought ibna Abbas said prophet Mohamed saw Allah. Aisha said 'no'. and recited the ayah no vision can grasp him but He grasps all vision. Who do you think was more knowledgeable, aisha? Or ibna Abbas?

[@QuranicIslam]

@@easky363 Ibn 'Abbas was far more knowledgeable but he was still wrong if even said that. Most of his knowledge came second hand from sahaba, including hypocrites of course. The problem was he went around listening to everyone, plus Umar tried to promote him as the most knowledgeable of Ahlul Bayt in order to compete with Ali. He was sort of influenced by that

[@easky363]

@QuranicIslam but Aisha was closer to the prophet than ibna Abbas, she was also older than ibna Abbas. Unless you're saying she was less knowledgeable because she was a woman.

[@QuranicIslam]

@@easky363 Ibn 'Abbas was more knowledgeable because he took knowledge from many sources, and especially from the most knowledgeable person after the Prophet, Ali. As for the wives, the most knowledgeable and best of them after Khadijah was Um Salamah not Aisha. That's why the Prophet sought out her advise and often acted on it. Ultimately though, these are historical judgments we make with the best we have and aren't very relevant .... who was more knowledgeable or not shouldn't blind us from accepting a piece of knowledge from and ignorant person, nor recognizing and calling out a falsehood from the most knowledgeable of people. Like Ali himself advised; "don't come/try to know the truth by people, get to know the truth itself/yourself and you will come to know its true people"

[@Shaima_Yacoub]

Al-Ahzab 33:37 وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِىٓ أَنْعَمَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَٱتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ وَتُخْفِى فِى نَفْسِكَ مَا ٱللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى ٱلنَّاسَ وَٱللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَن تَخْشَىٰهُۖ فَلَمَّا قَضَىٰ زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنَٰكَهَا لِكَىْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِىٓ أَزْوَٰجِ أَدْعِيَآئِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا۟ مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًاۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ ٱللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا English - Sahih International And [remember, O Muḥammad], when you said to the one on whom Allāh bestowed favor and you bestowed favor,[1] "Keep your wife and fear Allāh," while you concealed within yourself that which Allāh is to disclose.[2] And you feared the people,[3] while Allāh has more right that you fear Him.[4] So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort [i.e., guilt] concerning the wives of their claimed [i.e., adopted] sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command [i.e., decree] of Allāh accomplished. Some reflections on what اذ يغشي السدرة ما يغشي might mean. The sidra that he experienced created a stronger emotion in him than any factor(s) that were hindering him from uncovering the truth. The sidra overpowered these factors basically. The above verse is an example of how that might manifest itself practically. In this specific case, fear of the people hindered him from revealing the truth. He kind of covered/withheld the truth due to this? The verse that follows اذ يغشي السدرة is saying that he remained 'in place' basically and didn't get swayed... Due to the strength of this realization or sidra. So to translate it..."when the sidra covered/overwhelmed that which he covered"... Thereby enabling it to prevail.

[@Shaima_Yacoub]

Let's try this again... Take 2: lol If we are to understand غشي as overtake/overwhelm ..then: For اذ يغشي السدرة ما يغشي ...... The sidra overwhelms "ما يغشي" . So to translate .. it's "when the sidra overwhelms that which overwhelmed ". For something to overwhelm there must be two conflicting sides. I believe there are two stages of internal battle being referred to in this verse. The initial stage "ما يغشي" or "that which overwhelmed" is when x has overtaken y... Let's call that state of being Z. So Z=x>y. This is an incorrect/harmful distribution or a قسمة ضيزا like described in verse 22 of the same surah. (Incorrect distribution is a super important theme. The Muslims of today are guilty of an incorrect distribution when it comes to the Quran as described in suratul hijr 15:90.) The second stage is when the sidra (B) comes and overwhelms/dominates the previous distribution to facilitate a purified state of being called (A) where now y>x. So A=y>x ... This is a correct قسمة or distribution. Mathematically, it would look like this ... Z (the first stage) times B (the sidra) = A (the purified state) So to simplify, اذ يغشي السدرة ما يغشى can be represented by : B x Z = A The next verse tells us that after B happened he was securely stationed in A...correct distribution... And the verses that follow tell us more about those who are still in Z....incorrectly distributed To put the whole thing into context... You can say that Hawa potentially pulls you into a state of wrongful distribution where the wrong overpowers the right. So it might be that the first verse is actually stating the obvious. That the prophet Muhammad did actually Hawa... but came back eventually. He didn't stay lost due to his being chosen to receive revelation, his seeking of Allah , Allahs response, and then the sidra which caused him to correct course. This might all be definitively incorrect because of syntax or any other reasons. Please feel free to counter it. Please feel free to verify that it would work syntaxically and semantically and thanks! On a side note. Sulaimans Dua of ربي أوزعني means that he asking Allah to distribute him correctly in terms of the specific requests I think. 👍

[@QuranicIslam]

@@Shaima_Yacoub Salaam and very nice. I'll have to read it all again later. It's all very Zen. How would you relate it to the next verse though? About his sight not straying nor going over. I think I can guess/see how in what you said about "not swaying"

[@Shaima_Yacoub]

Yeah pretty much. I understand ما زاغ البصر to reflect a secure station in that state. Being firmly planted because of what has been realized.. the lure that was previously a problem is dismantled. Any station outside of "a correctly distributed" state... would be طغيان I guess. Hence ما طغي. Not sure!

[@jonghoonpark5497]

​@@Shaima_Yacoubdo you think there is any way or method to achieve that state, so that nothing can overwhelm you? So that you remain loyal to truth and revelation above all things

[@Shaima_Yacoub]

@@jonghoonpark5497 I dont think there's ever a way to guarantee indefinite safety for yourself in this life. There will always be lures and temptations until its over. Maybe this stage is just describing a significant form of passage where one succeeds in ridding themselves of the weight and falsehoods that were holding them back for so long. then they progress into a stage where they have alot more clarity. and what they were carrying becomes manifest as falsehood. but other trials will come. other tests will come. Our best method is to seek out Allah sincerely for guidance and discernment....to study and ponder his final message to us for guidance and to adhere to the parameters laid out for us in it. no matter what anyone else says. even if youre the only guy against 1000000. Sharing the benefits you recieve from this process with others is very helpful too. I sincerely believe that if youre doing that and you make a mistake within that framework its forgiven in sha Allah. the whole point is to face your direction purely towards god and not to let pollution sneak its way in. not to get it perfect

[@OMAR-REZA-HAMiM-77]

Awesome stream as always brother 💚, I had a question what do you think of Muhammad sahrour,s idea of shari'a

[@QuranicIslam]

I'm not really aware of his ideas there. He has great insights but I've often found a lot of his things also confusing and muddled so I have never really pursued his work

[@OMAR-REZA-HAMiM-77]

​@@QuranicIslamSharia law also comes under fire from Shahrur's critique in terms of what he perceives as the primary source of jurisprudence, namely, the Koran. Here, he steadfastly maintains the thesis that all traditionally accepted normative statements in the Koran must be seen as historically conditional. On the basis of this premise, he formulates a "theory of limits" as a universal solution to address divinely prescribed norms of behaviour. Statue of Averroes in Córdoba, Spain (photo/source: Wikipedia) Shahrur does not want to re-invent Islam. Instead, he hopes to revive the timeless message of Ibn Rushd Shahrur understands the concept of limit (hudud) not according to the traditional Islamic reading as a "commandment" of God, but instead as divinely set boundary. According to this position, Islam makes no laws, but rather only sets limits within which man must enjoy the greatest possible degree of freedom. The rigidity of currently accepted Islamic jurisprudence is contrary to the elasticity of the Koran. As such, God has set an upper and a lower limit to all human actions mentioned in the Koran, with the lower limit representing the minimum and the upper limit the maximum stipulated by divine law in any specific case. By instituting gradual increments of punishment for crimes, the Sharia would gain much greater flexibility and realistic sentencing could finally be determined according to human needs. As an example of his "theory of limits," Shahrur introduces the case of punishment for theft. According to his understanding of verse 5:38 in the Koran, chopping off a hand is the most severe, but not the only possible punishment. A judge could also sentence the guilty party to do volunteer work instead. Ps. What do you think brother

[@aladindelic]

You brought up a very interesting surah (even all are). I've to say that I don't believe in Israa' and Mi'raaj, as we were taught by our elders, so I'll skip that part 'cuz I think it's not the main topic here. But I'd like to share my thoughts on the topic. First, the start we-l-nejmi is translated as "By the Star", and I agree to that almost completely, but I have to say that we have Bismillah before this. In it is bi- which can be translated into English as "by", and with a conjuncture "we" it means "And by the Star" (not just by). This is why we have a genitive for a noun nejm (en-nejmi). So, all what comes after is by ismullah er-Rahman er-Raheem, and by... (something) What the Star is here? Is it some special star? It was said "idhaa hewaa". Word idhaa means "after" and it is a time adverb, which is telling us that we have to think about the Star after some action took place. I said took because a verb hewaa is in a perfect tense, it already happened and it can't be translated as a present tense; we (have to) think in present, but after this verb happened. So, this verb can't be "descends" or anything in a present tense. Meaning of a verb and other words from the same root point to something empty, vain, etc., as air. Now it can be clear that the Star is not about any star but about all of them, when they perish from our sight. What's happening in that time? The new dawn is born, after darkness. If we continue reading we can clearly understand that what was said in the 1st aayet is about the Qur'an. I'd just like to tell about 3rd aayet, its end "'an-il-hewaa". Now we have a noun hewaa from the same root as a verb. But the preposition 'an is wrongly translated as "from" or similar, even with a little knowledge of Arabic it's clear that it means "about" or "of", as in "I'm talking about that". This simply means that Resulullah doesn't talk about some emply, vain, etc. things, but what he's talking about (from waHy) is very important. If we really think about the Qur'an we can surely experience our own Mi'raaj.

[@QuranicIslam]

Jazakallah

[@1tcam]

Bit off topic but what is your view on the wudu verse , i recently started wiping my feet rather than wash although it feels strange , however i am beginning to have 2nd thoughts as even Zaydis & Ibadis wash their feet so although Twelvers believe this is closest to the prophet and his family could they be wrong in this regard ?

[@QuranicIslam]

The original qira'a was certainly to wipe, but ultimately everyone made a mountain out of something simple. The "sunnah" parts of wudu are/were just the Prophet's cleanliness practice that he did, nothing more. Bc the first step of wudu is to wash your face, but with what? Your hands of course ... and if your hands are dirty? So he would usually first wash his hands before using then to wash your face. If his hands were clean, he wouldn't. Simple. And since you are going to be praying with others likely, or just so as to recite with a clean fresh mouth if you have eaten recently, rinse your mouth and blow out any mucus from your nose while you are about your face. When you wipe your head, include your ears too with a little wipe and clean. And if your feet are dirty, wash them. Every wash includes wiping anyway So they are just cleanliness practices, that's all. If know your hands are clean enough to rub over your face, your breath is fresh, your nose isn't clogged up and your feet are clean, then just skip them ... if not, then going to pray with better cleanliness is a bonus. If your feet kinda stink from sweating in socks, it would be good courtesy to others to wash them. If you are walking around in clean sandals having showered in the morning, then certainly don't bother and just wipe. It's just common sense. The "strangeness" you feel is just the clutches of herd mentality we all have of doing things differently and maybe smudges of OCD. I likewise felt that way about such things early on, best thing imo is to break yourself out of it by deliberately only wiping until it feels normal

[@1tcam]

@@QuranicIslam Thanks ! and yes your right it’s defo a bit of OCD (wasswasa) on my behalf lol.. it’s like you said you’ll be wiping when washing your feet anyway so your point there helps me put things into perspective. Yes currently on that journey of breaking away from the sectarian division May Allah make it easy for me. I do believe the Islam of Imam Ali is the closest towards our prophet hence I try to follow his way from all sources. Glad I found your channel and the work you do it’s been a big help in the past year !

[@xyve6129]

Is there a better way to reach out to you aside from commenting here? I wanted to ask a few questions but was wondering if there was a better place to ask you privately?

[@easky363]

Ask him here, so we can all learn from your private questions

[@QuranicIslam]

Yes, you can DM me on Reddit or Twitter. In both my username is Quranic_Islam

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

Isra and Miraj journey Firstly, it was the majority view of the prophet’s followers, that it was a real journey and not some mental state or a spiritual journey. This narrative can only develop by prophet’s description of the event itself in the Qur’an and hadith literature. We have to reject it was a mental state because Isra is to understood as transported. In Surah al- najm the Miraj is can be under from the ascend and descend. The context is the Prophet lying place was still warm upon his return, his claim of drinking the water and the runaway camel he retrieved. The only way to explain the proof is in the context of claim of the prophet it was a real journey and hence a miraculous journey refuting the apostasy of those who rejected it including Modern secularist Muslims. Isra and miraj the journey and accent is related to the transcendental worlds of different spatio-temporal dimensions of existence. In fact it’s situation is similar to the accent of Jesus body into the heaven to return to this world at that moment when histor culminates in Jerusalem. The physical body occupies this lowest spatio-temporal dimension of existence so it cannot be a physical ascent to Allah. Because Allah is non-spatial, whilst closer to you than your jugular vein and encompasses everything. The only way to explain it is by the transformation of the physical body into it’s transcendental form which by definition is the part of existence which transcends space time. Also the prophet never mentioned the participation of the physical body. Allah transformed the personality of the prophet from the physical to the transcendtal dimension of existence. These are dimensions of the human personality developed from light. The isra and Miraj involved the personality of the prophet from one dimension of existence to another. Parapsychology may explain it to be a mental state but we know from Surah Al- Nur: Allah is the light of the samawat: plural for multiple spatio-temporal dimensions and the earth. Meaning the origin of everything created is light - that it is a light which produces energy and gradually transforming into matter. The first thing Allah created was a particle of light in intense motion and from t emerged all of creation. Since all matter is from light science needs to discover how to reverse the transformation of light into matter. Here lies the scientific explanation of how physical body of the prophet miraculously transformed during the Isra and Miraj. We need to understand the process of creation through the transformation of light mentioned in surah Al Nur and explained in Surah At Talaq: At-Talaq 65:12-12 (12) اَللّٰهُ الَّذِيْ خَلَقَ سَبْعَ سَمٰوٰتٍ وَّمِنَ الْاَرْضِ مِثْلَهُنَّ ؕ يَتَنَزَّلُ الْاَمْرُ بَيْنَهُنَّ لِتَعْلَمُوْۤا اَنَّ اللّٰهَ عَلٰي كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيْرٌ ۙ وَّاَنَّ اللّٰهَ قَدْ اَحَاطَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عِلْمًا It is Allāh who has created seven spatio-temporal dimensions or different worlds of space and time, and of the material earth or matter including our body, is the like of them (meaning potentially seven dimension of space time existence) command descends among them so you may know that Allāh is over all things competent and that Allāh has encompassed all things in knowledge. And we know from Surah Al Mulk that they are all interconnected. So now look the verses of Surah isra and Najm in this context and you will realise that his body was miraculously transformed so he can travel to Al-Aqsa masjid connected to the seven spatial-temporal dimensions and the accent to Allah through the samawat. We know during this event there was no structure of Aqsa masjid in Jerusalem so the masjid was the part that transcendental space time and yet connected to the physical Al- aqsa that was a dump yard at the time. The prophet’s claim of drinking the water and his help to retrieve the camel was Allah’s miracle of his personality traversing in the journey from this realm to the other transcendental realms back and forth in a moment, SubhanAllah! Surah Najum 1-8 informs us the Prophet reached the lote tree being the furthest point that is boundary between creator and creation. The analogy is of the point of the two semi circles touch. That is the miracle of the prophet Allah blessed Him with. The prophet said to his followers the Salah is similar to the Miraj. So by the virtue of the prophet’s miraculous journey Allah has permitted from his followers to experience a mini Miraj in Salah. Rather some Muslims have decided to argue is s parapsychological explanation that the apostates were taunting him of. This is a true test of faith because if you believe it was a mental state your Salah experience will be no different than a person doing yoga. In Surah Al-mulk Allah is telling us to repeatedly see within the context of return Al-Mulk 67:3-4 (3) الَّذِيْ خَلَقَ سَبْعَ سَمٰوٰتٍ طِبَاقًا ؕ مَا تَرٰي فِيْ خَلْقِ الرَّحْمٰنِ مِنْ تَفٰوُتٍ ؕ فَارْجِعِ الْبَصَرَ ۙ هَلْ تَرٰي مِنْ فُطُوْرٍ (4) ثُمَّ ارْجِعِ الْبَصَرَ كَرَّتَيْنِ يَنْقَلِبْ اِلَيْكَ الْبَصَرُ خَاسِئًا وَّهُوَ حَسِيْرٌ (3) [And] who created seven spatio-temporal dimensional layers interlinked. You do not see in the creation of the Most Merciful any inconsistency. So return, vision do you see any breaks? (4) Then return, vision twice again. Vision will return to you humbled while it is fatigued. The preposition before the word return may indicate to the context of salah is Miraj for the believers then what you can see in your miraj is what Allah is telling you repeatedly to experience in Al-mulk and more if Allah wills. This is at the heart of Islamic spirituality but in the modern age the secular mind is disengaged from the samawat and reduced to the Ard or the material matter of spatio-temporal existence.

[@QuranicIslam]

That's a very takfiri view, calling those who rejected it was physical apostates ... and there were many amoung the early Ummah. Honestly, I stopped reading that jumble half way through and the rest I only tried to skim. There's nothing in that mix mash that mostly relies on Hadiths that interests me. This was about Surat alNajm. I gave actual understandable points as to why it can't be in any way taken as confirmation of the mi'raaj narrative. Unless those are addressed adequately, I'm really not interested. Thanks anyway 👋 salaam

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

@@QuranicIslam your cutting the the spiritual cord of the Qur'an and islam. You have reduced it to the secular psychological narrative that is dangerous. The hadith is not completely rejected. The Qur'an is the foundation and we accept the hadith up to the extent it agrees and can help build the explanation of the Qur'an. When the hadith is in manifest contradiction of the Qur'an we reject it. I merely used the facts from the hadith and explained it using the Qur'an. If hadith is problematic everything about it must be false is an illogical fallacy. Your explanation is very primitive and dangerous for islamic spirituality. People are doing astro projection for outer body experience and your saying it was a mental state as the Abu lahub and jahal used to say. Come on seriously are you kidding me. I really don't know what your agenda is but it is clear by denying Miraj you are cutting the way the believers can receive knowledge and more dangerously deny the second coming of Jesus. This is the crucial test of faith in this last epoch of history and I think you know the truth but why you chose to deny it I don't know. I hope you return to the truth.

[@QuranicIslam]

@@Nellytheelephant2012 Let's just agree to disagree on this one 👋 Salaam

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

@@QuranicIslam ok but read what I wrote carefully and contemplate over it.

[@Shaima_Yacoub]

@Nellytheelephant2012 "I merely used the "facts" from Hadith and explained it using the Quran" A sentence that speaks volumes.

[@easky363]

When will you translate the Quran into English please?

[@QuranicIslam]

That would be a huge project. Hundreds of people start/attempt translations but don't finish them. If I start I'd really like to complete it.

[@easky363]

@@QuranicIslam start with Juzz Amma maybe? Or the opposite?

[@easky363]

KHALEEFA? Is Isreal a Khaleefa now? Isn't America being Khalifa now? Wasn't England the Khalifa for centuries? Aren't there 2 different Khalifas? Khalifa for God? And Khalifa for Shaydan.

[@qoachel4833]

Sorry if this out of topic, but is it true that if a husband didn't give his wife any living or psychal intimacy for like 3 months, then the wife can divorce him?

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

Women are emotional beings that crave a deeper connection. Do you have a valid reason from the Quran or some medical reason for denying her intimacy. If not then ask yourself why are you doing it? In answering the question you will find your answer.

[@QuranicIslam]

That's nothing the Qur'an tries to micro-manage. That will come down to the customs, laws or what is between the families or spouses themselves. I don't see why the wife cannot divorce him anyway without that, or him her. Generally, here is no sin in divorce even if nobody provides a reason. You just try to stay together if you think that will be for the best, or divorce if one side no longer wants to be in the marriage.

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

I disagree the verse is clearly talking about miraj from the word istawaa!

[@Shaima_Yacoub]

You can get a deeper understanding of the word istawaa from verse 28:14 when Allah is talking about Musa. His wisdom and knowledge was given to him by Allah after his istiwaa'. When he was ready to receive it.

[@Shaima_Yacoub]

In colloquial Arabic we use the term to describe food when its fully cooked and ready to eat.

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

@@Shaima_Yacoub Isra and Miraj journey Firstly, it was the majority view of the prophet’s followers, that it was a real journey and not some mental state or a spiritual journey. This narrative can only develop by prophet’s description of the event itself in the Qur’an and hadith literature. We have to reject it was a mental state because Isra is to understood as transported. In Surah al- najm the Miraj is can be under from the ascend and descend. The context is the Prophet lying place was still warm upon his return, his claim of drinking the water and the runaway camel he retrieved. The only way to explain the proof is in the context of claim of the prophet it was a real journey and hence a miraculous journey refuting the apostasy of those who rejected it including Modern secularist Muslims. Isra and miraj the journey and accent is related to the transcendental worlds of different spatio-temporal dimensions of existence. In fact it’s situation is similar to the accent of Jesus body into the heaven to return to this world at that moment when histor culminates in Jerusalem. The physical body occupies this lowest spatio-temporal dimension of existence so it cannot be a physical ascent to Allah. Because Allah is non-spatial, whilst closer to you than your jugular vein and encompasses everything. The only way to explain it is by the transformation of the physical body into it’s transcendental form which by definition is the part of existence which transcends space time. Also the prophet never mentioned the participation of the physical body. Allah transformed the personality of the prophet from the physical to the transcendtal dimension of existence. These are dimensions of the human personality developed from light. The isra and Miraj involved the personality of the prophet from one dimension of existence to another. Parapsychology may explain it to be a mental state but we know from Surah Al- Nur: Allah is the light of the samawat: plural for multiple spatio-temporal dimensions and the earth. Meaning the origin of everything created is light - that it is a light which produces energy and gradually transforming into matter. The first thing Allah created was a particle of light in intense motion and from t emerged all of creation. Since all matter is from light science needs to discover how to reverse the transformation of light into matter. Here lies the scientific explanation of how physical body of the prophet miraculously transformed during the Isra and Miraj. We need to understand the process of creation through the transformation of light mentioned in surah Al Nur and explained in Surah At Talaq: At-Talaq 65:12-12 (12) اَللّٰهُ الَّذِيْ خَلَقَ سَبْعَ سَمٰوٰتٍ وَّمِنَ الْاَرْضِ مِثْلَهُنَّ ؕ يَتَنَزَّلُ الْاَمْرُ بَيْنَهُنَّ لِتَعْلَمُوْۤا اَنَّ اللّٰهَ عَلٰي كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيْرٌ ۙ وَّاَنَّ اللّٰهَ قَدْ اَحَاطَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عِلْمًا It is Allāh who has created seven spatio-temporal dimensions or different worlds of space and time, and of the material earth or matter including our body, is the like of them (meaning potentially seven dimension of space time existence) command descends among them so you may know that Allāh is over all things competent and that Allāh has encompassed all things in knowledge. And we know from Surah Al Mulk that they are all interconnected. So now look the verses of Surah isra and Najm in this context and you will realise that his body was miraculously transformed so he can travel to Al-Aqsa masjid connected to the seven spatial-temporal dimensions and the accent to Allah through the samawat. We know during this event there was no structure of Aqsa masjid in Jerusalem so the masjid was the part that transcendental space time and yet connected to the physical Al- aqsa that was a dump yard at the time. The prophet’s claim of drinking the water and his help to retrieve the camel was Allah’s miracle of his personality traversing in the journey from this realm to the other transcendental realms back and forth in a moment, SubhanAllah! Surah Najum 1-8 informs us the Prophet reached the lote tree being the furthest point that is boundary between creator and creation. The analogy is of the point of the two semi circles touch. That is the miracle of the prophet Allah blessed Him with. The prophet said to his followers the Salah is similar to the Miraj. So by the virtue of the prophet’s miraculous journey Allah has permitted from his followers to experience a mini Miraj in Salah. Rather some Muslims have decided to argue is s parapsychological explanation that the apostates were taunting him of. This is a true test of faith because if you believe it was a mental state your Salah experience will be no different than a person doing yoga. In Surah Al-mulk Allah is telling us to repeatedly see within the context of return Al-Mulk 67:3-4 (3) الَّذِيْ خَلَقَ سَبْعَ سَمٰوٰتٍ طِبَاقًا ؕ مَا تَرٰي فِيْ خَلْقِ الرَّحْمٰنِ مِنْ تَفٰوُتٍ ؕ فَارْجِعِ الْبَصَرَ ۙ هَلْ تَرٰي مِنْ فُطُوْرٍ (4) ثُمَّ ارْجِعِ الْبَصَرَ كَرَّتَيْنِ يَنْقَلِبْ اِلَيْكَ الْبَصَرُ خَاسِئًا وَّهُوَ حَسِيْرٌ (3) [And] who created seven spatio-temporal dimensional layers interlinked. You do not see in the creation of the Most Merciful any inconsistency. So return, vision do you see any breaks? (4) Then return, vision twice again. Vision will return to you humbled while it is fatigued. The preposition before the word return may indicate to the context of salah is Miraj for the believers then what you can see in your miraj is what Allah is telling you repeatedly to experience in Al-mulk and more if Allah wills. This is at the heart of Islamic spirituality but in the modern age the secular mind is disengaged from the samawat and reduced to the Ard or the material matter of spatio-temporal existence.

[@newseefgenesis9191]

(1) You says Shirk is never forgiven evennif u repent as Shirk is not a sin but a llulm. What is the meaning of lulm? (2) Allah says in the Quran that Alllah has made jannah haram for those who commit shirk. If shirk is never firgucen and shirk wil make you jannah haram..So how does anyone enter Heaven? Also in another verse it says... Many people worship Alllah by committing shirk...

[@QuranicIslam]

I'm not sure where i said "llulm" ... i think i must have said zulm ... which means injustice. But that isn't why shirk is not forgiven, there are lots of other things that are zulm and which are forgiven. It is that it is such a huge zulm. For the second question, yes someone who is a "mushrik" ... by state, religion and main attribute. One who is a mushrik "continually", more or less, always in 'ibada to others with Allah. That doesn't mean that everyone who commits a single or even multiple acts of shirk is a mushrik. A mushrik is someone who has taken shirk as his default way. For such a person to enter Jannah they need to first stop being a mushrik, then try to make up as much good deeds as possible to outweigh their past shirk When i say shirk is never forgiven it means that, unlike other sins, it will always appear on the scales on judgment day. Other sins, like theft, adultery, bearing false testimony, lying, etc if you repent for them and are forgiven, then they are wiped off from what will be weighed on judgment day on the scales. They won't be there because they are forgiven. Any acts done in shirk however will be there ... because Allah doesn't forgive shirk. You don't have to be forgiven every single sin in order to enter jannah ... you just have to make sure your scales of good out weighs your bad. Hope that makes sense.

[@newseefgenesis9191]

@@QuranicIslam No.. Quran says those who ashraku in God.. God has banned Heaven for themm.. Not mushrik..

[@newseefgenesis9191]

@@QuranicIslam well Quran says.. Allah will forgive all sins... So doesn't that mean Shirk isn't a sin?.. So Quran contradicts? He forgives all sins.. And He doesn't forgive shirk?? Note: All sins!!

[@QuranicIslam]

@@newseefgenesis9191 Which verse is that? With "ashrak" form That's right, shirk isn't a "sin", ie ذنب ... rather sins are done in shirk. Remember shirk is about 'ibada to others with God ... and many sins, practically any, can be done in 'ibada

[@newseefgenesis9191]

@@QuranicIslam I remember mo hijab saying a swear word citing that Abu backer ra has also swore .. Like suck the clit of latta once in a hadith.... But i believe that Islam doesn't support swearing.. Does that make he made Abu bakr a sharik of Allah

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

Khalid deeds or actions stem from the actions of the heart. A humble heart will manifest Good deeds in contrast to an arrogant heart that will manifest bad deeds. The two are ends of an arrogant humble spectrum as human actions have degrees of goodness and badness. Beliefs on the other hand are separate and Allah does call out certain beliefs as lies like the trinity which led to christian taking Isa and his mother as gods besides Allah. Allah may forgive or punish them for this. On the other hand a person can have correct beliefs and be a muslim outwardly but inside is arrogant and showing off and is cursed by Allah, like the example in surah Ma'un. Allah calls out the belief of an arrogant heart as one who outrightly rejects the day of accounts. Then curses the muslim who does salah to show off. So people do deeds like charity but inside there is little humility so these are bad actions. On the other hand Musa was pursuing justice and he accidentally killed the man when he punched him and Allah forgave him, but taking a life unjustly is murder. So i guess outward deeds can be justified by rationality as good or bad there is no escaping the internal aspect of arrogance or humility that determines whether Allah will consider it good and bad. examining atheists is no different. Some are arrogant, and chose atheism to follow their hawa. They and the muslim who prays salah to show off are no different. whilst other atheists like the zionist want to kill arabs and muslims for no justified reason these are in hell. whilst other atheists such as Norman Finkelstein live by his moral fira and based on this belief he fights for human rights of the palestinian people. If he is humble as humble internally as he appears externally then his deeds will never go to waste. That is what i have to share for now. What do you think?

[@QuranicIslam]

I think we might be talking past each other. There's no doubt that what you believe can influence your actions. But many other things do to. And more goes into what you do than your beliefs. Ultimately though, what you are judged on are your actions, not your beliefs

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

@@QuranicIslam im with you and trying to expand on what you are saying from the Quran. righteous actions stem from a sound humble heart in tuned to the innate natural disposition known as morality or Fitra. This will be the base entry of judgement. however someone who is doing this and they also believe for them will be double reward in the hereafter. Saba' 34:37 وَمَاۤ اَمْوَالُكُمْ وَلَاۤ اَوْلَادُكُمْ بِالَّتِيْ تُقَرِّبُكُمْ عِنْدَنَا زُلْفٰۤي اِلَّا مَنْ اٰمَنَ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحًا ۫ فَاُولٰٓئِكَ لَهُمْ جَزَآءُ الضِّعْفِ بِمَا عَمِلُوْا وَهُمْ فِي الْغُرُفٰتِ اٰمِنُوْنَ English - Sahih International And it is not your wealth or your children that bring you nearer to Us in position, but it is [by being] one who has believed (and is secure in it) and done righteousness. For them there will be the double reward for what they did, and they will be in the upper chambers [of Paradise], safe [and secure] So beliefs are judged

[@QuranicIslam]

@@Nellytheelephant2012 I still don't think "beliefs" are judged at all. Beliefs are involuntary. The closest thing to beliefs that will be judged is your testimony to what you believe is true and your honesty towards it ... whether or not what you believed to be true is true or not.

[@Nellytheelephant2012]

@@QuranicIslam ok so how are you interpreting the verse i quoted. Speaks of beliefs with righteous deeds will have double reward?

[@QuranicIslam]

@@Nellytheelephant2012 Well, it explicitly says that this reward is because of what they did (بِمَا عَمِلُوْا) ... so faith is there, but the reward is for the deeds. Secondly, it _is_ faith, not belief. Those being addressed in the verse already believe in God ... they even seem to think that it is their wealth and children that will bring them closer to God, which they are seeking as a goal. So the verse is just correcting their false notions.

[@knkn5049]

no way you believe in "night journey" !!! no way it is mentioned in a quran!

[@QuranicIslam]

@@knkn5049 😆 I actually don't understand. Is it a "no way!" of good surprise or bad surprise?

[@knkn5049]

@@QuranicIslam it is chapter of beni israil, it is full chapter anout moses, and full story about "night journey" is fabricated: it is journey of Arda Viraf+ dialogue of Abraham with God from bible story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

[@QuranicIslam]

@@knkn5049 I don't think the Israa is fabricated. The mi'raaj yes, and all the fabrications around it happened bc the Israa was real.

[@knkn5049]

@@QuranicIslam people do not need to fabricate, when they have true original: Here is three hadiths of our favorite story: Sunan an-Nasa'i 448, Sahih al-Bukhari 7517, Sahih Muslim 163. Oh i have lost my list of questions, the idea is: all hadiths contradict to eachother in almost every detail of the story. So i had list of questions i need the answer, based on what you have read: from where prophet ascended to heaven and where was he washed by water of zamzam? was there animal? Did he spoke to other prophets? What prophets was on 2nd and 6th heavens? Did the Prophet ﷺ got 50 prayers before he reached lote-tree or after? You can add sahih muslim 162a, 164a and explain to me where was Prophet offered wine? In Jerusalem or under Lote-tree? As long as you add new hadiths to clear some contradictions, they add only more questions. And you can actually see how they fabricated things: one of hadiths uses analogy of "two bow lengths" it is quote from Quran (verse 53:1-10) , and you want to say, that people, whose whole religion based on memorising the Quran, all forgot bunch of verses, that part of the story itself? It is ridiculous. Author of hadith just added verses to give his story more weight. To make it more quran-like. As i told already, it is book of Arda Viraf, + famous dialogue of Abraham with god from bible. Arda Viraf was drinking wine, but to show superiority of "our prophet" we will change this part, now Muhammad refuses wine, our prophet is better than zoroastrian prophet, our prophet do not drink. We will establish bloodline between Muhammad and Abraham himself, and Abraham will call him son. And our Prophet obviously better than Moses, why? Moses himself will cry how good and superior Muhammad and his people. And he will accent higher than Moses in the heavens. You know, modern fan fiction about Harry Potter and Draco Malfoy not as obvious as those hadiths about Moses and Muhammad. Even angel of hell himself run towards Muhammad to greet him first.... Everything is fabricated from top to bottom.

[@knkn5049]

@@QuranicIslam people do not need to fabricate, when they have true original: Here is three hadiths of our favorite story: Sunan an-Nasa'i 448, Sahih al-Bukhari 7517, Sahih Muslim 163. Oh i have lost my list of questions, the idea is: all hadiths contradict to eachother in almost every detail of the story. So i had list of questions i need the answer, based on what you have read: from where prophet ascended to heaven and where was he washed by water of zamzam? was there animal? Did he spoke to other prophets? What prophets was on 2nd and 6th heavens? Did the Prophet ﷺ got 50 prayers before he reached lote-tree or after? You can add sahih muslim 162a, 164a and explain to me where was Prophet offered wine? In Jerusalem or under Lote-tree? As long as you add new hadiths to clear some contradictions, they add only more questions. And you can actually see how they fabricated things: one of hadiths uses analogy of "two bow lengths" it is quote from Quran (verse 53:1-10) , and you want to say, that people, whose whole religion based on memorising the Quran, all forgot bunch of verses, that part of the story itself? It is ridiculous. Author of hadith just added verses to give his story more weight. To make it more quran-like. As i told already, it is book of Arda Viraf, + famous dialogue of Abraham with god from bible. Arda Viraf was drinking wine, but to show superiority of "our prophet" we will change this part, now Muhammad refuses wine, our prophet is better than zoroastrian prophet, our prophet do not drink. We will establish bloodline between Muhammad and Abraham himself, and Abraham will call him son. And Moses himself will be jealous how good and superior Muhammad and his people. Everything is fabricated from top to bottom.

[@julienlefranc]

Salam brother , I would like to write you an email hoy could i do so ?

[@QuranicIslam]

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