C4 vs C5 Corvette (Top 5 reasons I bought the C5)

When I was in the market for a Corvette, I carefully considered both the C4 and C5 Corvette. Here is my comparison analysis and the Top 5 Reasons I decided to go with the C5 Corvette and pass on the C4.
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[@nikkoalpha2]

Excellent video. After owning 3 C4's and 2 C5's I can attest to your observations. Each generation has benefits and issues. Personal preferences on styling and performance differences are important factors. The C5 hydroformed frame, rear mounted transmission, and interior space make the C5 a better choice with all things else being equal. One thing I did not personally care for in the C5 was its rear styling. Can't go wrong with either generation if one carefully does their pre-purchase research and inspection. I feel your channel is the very best C5 source on YT and thank you for your honest and detailed videos.

[@Toys4Life]

Appreciate the kind words and your detailed response sir, thank you!

[@nikkoalpha2]

@@Toys4Life I always enjoy your videos even though I no longer have a C5. Always advise anyone searching for a C5 to visit your channel before purchasing.

[@michaelcroos4713]

I agree with the rear end styling meme. It's worse on the C6, and the C7 and C8 don't even register as Vettes to me. Why? That rear reminds me of an ex's FAT ASS... Hate it. Tradition is now out the door, for a phony Lambo oragami look. YUCK!!!!!!

[@icurt06]

I've owned 3 generations of Corvettes. A C4, C5 and C6. My favorite at the moment is a stock one owner 02 C5 Z06 that sits in my garage. It's not the fastest Vette by todays standards. It sure puts a smile on my face every time I take her for a drive!

[@brassgasandbass]

It's still holding its own for sure

[@kimblem.w9952]

405hp and being the lightest Corvette is still a pretty damn quick car!

[@markcarlson8128]

Now 72 years old, and after owning multiple cars, I have never had more compliments than I do on my silver C5 Corvette.

[@jaws2003]

Do you have any issues getting in and out of the car? I've heard of many older men saying that. I'm 37 and it can feel a little awkward getting in and out but I've never had a sports car before.

[@txsailor57]

@@jaws2003 I'm 70 and have a C5 and a 1999 Miata. The C5 is a little harder to get in than the Miata but its not really a problem. My wife has had both knees replaced and doesn't have a problem either. Of course its harder to get in than our suv but so much more fun once you do. Also the visibility is great on the C5. It doesn't have a blind spot like so many other cars.

[@muffinmonster2714]

Great advice! I knew I wanted a C5 but didn’t dig in to all the differences between the years. I just got lucky when I found a clean 2001 that had some of typical repairs already done and a few nice upgrades. I love how we all have made these cars different with our personal changes and add ons.

[@Toys4Life]

Agreed - have to make it your own!

[@jimbuono2404]

I've owned a 94, 96, 04, 08 and now a 2014 Corvette. I agree with most of the observations. But I'll make a few observations from my experience. The C4 has more compact outside proportions than the C5. I think it looks better, more like a proper sports car. However, because of this, the C5 is much roomier and easier to get in and out of. Once you are in the C4 seat, it's actually quite comfortable. Driving around town or cruising on the highway you don't notice a lot of difference in performance between the C4 and C5. The C4 has good grunt off the line with it's 335 ft/lbs of torque. As speed increases the C4 runs out of breath much sooner than the C5 and the C5 will pull away. The C5 tends to wallow in the turns where the C4 is much more stable. Put a set of z06 sway bars on the C5 front and back and it cures this. A lot of the repair issues are related to mileage. A C4 garage queen with 30.000 miles is going to have about the same repair needs as a 1998 C5 with 80,000 miles. and the C4 is going to be a lot cheaper. All in all every iteration of the Corvette is better than the last. My C7 is the best Corvette I've ever owned. It's the fastest, handles the best, has the best interior materials, etc. But every Corvette has certain charms and you really need to experience each one to determine which is the right one for you.

[@Toys4Life]

Good points, sir! I want a C7 some day but I love the C5 and 6 gauges - and dislike the C7's. Despite that, some day when prices are lower (when the market is flooded with C8's and pandemic pricing is behind us) I will get one because the 7 chassis is quite a bit better!

[@averageracist_219]

Damn this guy writed a whole essay

[@jimbuono2404]

@@averageracist_219 You so right. I 'writed' a whole essay. Sorry, not sorry, you didn't like it.

[@conanlive3784]

@@jimbuono2404 I appreciate the essay that you "writed" (what do kids learn in school these days?). I have a C5, but am thinking of trading up for a C6 next spring. I'd like to crest the 400hp barrier without doing all kinds of aftermarket add-ons.

[@josephvaughan9856]

Formerly had a C4 and really enjoyed it. This past winter , while in Florida, I purchased a 2003 C5 and had it shipped home to New York. I used your expertise from watching your videos to make my decision to buy it. (Thank you) The car had 30000 miles on it, I have put about 2000miles on it so far and love it. The original tires were still on it, I put a set of Michelin Pilot Sport All Seasons and C7 ZO6 Wheels on it and the ride is amazing vs the original run flats. I always watch for your videos.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

I agree that the C5 was a major leap forwards. Plus it's a good looking car. ;-)

[@Toys4Life]

Indeed!

[@richarddobreny6664]

C5’s best looks are the front and hood, it looks liquid!

[@Toys4Life]

Agreed - It does look liquid !

[@KA-te7xk]

Well stated.. C5 all day every day.. I own a 2001 Metallic Silver with rare Cherry Red interior White Top Convertible 34 K miles.

[@Toys4Life]

Nice

[@waynegood9233]

I bought my 2001 C5 Corvette in 2011 with 2 owner 40k miles and then sold it in late 2013 and then both my 2014 Vette and still have it

[@kotysh]

Really enjoy your videos, great explanations.

[@ajcates9136]

He knows a lot

[@Toys4Life]

Glad you like them!

[@MCGDEC]

Owner of 2004 convertible, stock, 40,000 miles and it runs like the day I bought it. People who whine about the interior are just missing the mechanics of the ride. If the interior is what your after buy a Beamer or Mercedes but let me know how she's holding up after 18 years. Power window motors is the only repairs other than maintenance, change all fluids especially bleed out all the old brake fluid when replacing pads.

[@Toys4Life]

I agree, I have always liked the C5 interior - still looks modern today in my view! And it does not have a Cobalt steering wheel. Lol

[@carlschifano9655]

Your advice we’ll taken. I had a ‘93 beauty and loved it. Moved on to a ‘98 and I really see and feel the difference.

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks for the feedback, Carl!

[@markwest9447]

Hello, I presently own a C4 (1994), and a C5 (2002). The C5 hands down is a FAR SUPERIOR automobile. Moving the Transaxle in the rear made for a MUCH more comfortable interior... The list goes on & on... When deciding to purchase a Corvette, like most things in life "cheap is expensive", do your homework, spend a little bit more, be patient and in the long run you will get what are looking for... GOOD LUCK...

[@Toys4Life]

Love hearing first hand opinions from owners of both - thanks!!

[@EXCELSIOR_INC]

Thanks for the great comparison, I went with a black C5 as well Last year for pop up headlights that should have never been deleted Also the price for a nice 1995 ,1996 C4 is about the same as a 1997, 1998 C5 C4 0-60 5.2 C5 0-60 4.8 Not to mention newer technology , chassis and everything you addressed in the video

[@Toys4Life]

👍

[@ShellShock794]

I love my C5 and have absolutely zero plans to ever sell it but I can not wait to buy myself a C7 at some point in the future

[@bradkeeney5236]

Great observations! I have owned 69 435hp 427 Believe it or not with an automatic transmission! That was my introduction to Corvette! But that was my only C3. I sold that to get a Lingenfelter type 88 383 C4 (The guy I bought it from used many of his parts but not all) then I Vortech super charged it and it was fun!!! But then as far as Corvette I had 2 more C4s, a90 convertible and a 92 coupe with a six speed but they were stock. After all the racing fun I found my 98 C5 is really the best overall balance even with it being stock, but it Has to have a six speed! I actually did a super charged 71 Camaro in between my stock C4s it was in the November 07 issue of Chevy high-performance (in the spotlight, 25 local heroes) and that was super charged as well. So I was just looking for something simple and easy and the 98 was perfect. But now I’m starting to get itchy again.... I probably should just forget it, and see a good dermatologist...😂😂😂

[@fsm12385]

I own a 2001 C5 and love her. I was convinced once I saw the youtube on the build of the 01, plus they powered her with Ls1 , in the museum approved by Chevy, there are a couple of 01s with an enormous amount of miles on them, donated by the owners who daily drove them ,Love your youtubes

[@Toys4Life]

Very cool!

[@matthewboudreaux2693]

I bought my C5 1) Because. There is way more interior room especially the foot area since the transmission was moved to the rear. 2) The LS1, 3) there is way more 6 speeds available than the C4 platform and the was no way in heck that I was going to have another automatic sports car ( I also have 1992 Camaro that I bought when I was 18 because it was black V8 and has T-Tops) 4) the fact that the targa top has latches instead of bolts to make removing it so much easier. 5) it’s the 30mpg that I get on the interstate at 85 mph.

[@Toys4Life]

That foot room is big difference and many more 6 speeds out there to be found!

[@alaneasterday8327]

I currently own a c4 convertible, which I bought from a friend who had it 19 years. It's the condition and cleanliness that helped me make the decision to buy it. And he also owns an 02 c5 coupe which I've had a chance to drive several times. I agree there is big difference in power and performance to the c4. Might be making room for it too. Appreciate the great content. 👍👌

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you, sir!

[@HotRod-wv4vm]

Thanks for the tips 👍

[@Toys4Life]

Any time!

[@vitalirider707]

C5 is last pure sport car, last child of Zora Arkus Duntov

[@Toys4Life]

It is like his parents knew he was going to be an automotive designer. His name just says so!

[@muddypaper6895]

I love the C4 and C5 generations and how they look. Hope I can own both someday

[@co1bateman]

Great info ty sir!!

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you!

[@saintnificent5532]

I love the C5 body style. One year it was even made in *Green*. I own a Cyber Grey Metallic standard C6! Don't forget there is a ZR1 C4, I Love That car too.

[@Toys4Life]

I need a ride in a C4 ZR1, need to find one nearby!

[@irocvert8728]

Enjoyed the video but as a C4 fan just wanted to point out the C4 LT1 went to 345 ft/lbs of torque after 1992. Some people said on a dyno they created 5 more wheel horsepower too but Chevy kept the rating 300hp. In 1996 all 6-speed C4s had the 330hp LT4 which actually put down more horsepower to the wheels than stock 345hp C5s did. The C5 is undoubtedly a better performer BUT let’s not forget the C4 was kicked out of SCCA racing because companies like Porsche thought it was unfair how the C4 with world class handling and plenty of power dominated. Around 1992 Chevy was improving their manufacture techniques and the 1992 Thirdgen F-Bodies were tighter and had less rattles than the 80s IROCs. My 1993 Corvette feels tight and has no rattles. It feels very stiff and handles great unless you pop the roof off. That was an advantage of the C5 was no flex when topless. Styling-wise I liked the C5. It reminded me of the RX7 of that era but the rear end that bubbled out with big oval tail lights was not our favorite as GM fans. I always found the C4 tail lights to be more “classic”. We were also bummed as GM fans when they got rid of the pop up lights for the C6. The values are switching, Mecum early this year 30k mile C4s from the 90s were bringing more money than similar condition C5 and C6. The C4 is turning the corner on classic and C5 and C6 are used Vettes…. This recession is softening values on all Vettes. C5 owners are still asking high$$$ but they aren’t getting it. A friend trying to sell a C5 has marked it down $7k and still can’t sell it. C4 also gets a lot of attention for its quirks like the clam shell hood, back flipping tail-lights and it’s fighter jet cockpit…. It’s hard to get in a C4 but it feels like no other car. The C5 was made to feel like a normal car and is a better daily for sure. As far as reliability. Technically Corvette specific techs have pointed out to me the LT1 is a more stout motor with no service bulletins regarding engine failure unlike the LS1 which does have potential for lifter and oil pressure issues. The Optispark is supposed to be changed every 80k miles and you’ll never have a problem. It’s a tough job and amateurs don’t get the seals right so they get frustrated doing the job 4-5 times blaming the Optispark. An experienced tech can do it in 4-hours and it’ll last a decade. You do have to do the water pump too but it’s just regular service. Ultimately the C5 is more modern and can be made into a car that can hang with modern muscle more easily. The C4 is a great cruiser and a great driving experience that will draw a crowd every time you lift that clamshell hood at a cars and coffee. There are some LT1 tuners out there but obviously support for the LS is unbelievable. There’s certain year C5s that have unobtainable suspension parts and brake modules as well. With C4s the biggest issue is if you ever need an ECM you have to find a used one…. C4 and C5 vettes generally are reliable and cheap to fix though compared to other performance cars of that era.

[@craigt5906]

Actually NO LT1 or LT4 was rated 345 lbs/ft they were LT1 1992 330 lb/ft 1993-1996 340 lb/ft LT4 340 lb/ft

[@irocvert8728]

My mistake, you are correct I was off by 5ft lbs I just noticed in the video the C4 was downplayed a bit. He used the one year lower torque number and most images seemed to be the older, slower ones when comparing visually to a C5. He also compared used the 350hp LS rating when the first 4 years was 345hp. The LT4 was not even mentioned let alone the ZR1 which at one point was at C5 prices. They’ve gone up a bit now. A really low mile one sold over $80k this year. It’s not a straight comparison video with no bias.

[@Toys4Life]

IROC VERT - I appreciate your informative and detailed comment - thank you!

[@christianyoung1903]

My grandfather drives his c5 just about every other day including throughout winter, except for the once in a while snow we get here in TN, and he’s never had an issue other. And he has done all the preventative maintenance to keep anything from happening and has it making almost 450 N/A rn and looking to turbocharge or even procharge it in the future.

[@Toys4Life]

That is cool - wish I could but no way here in MN. Glad he has upped the HP/fun factor!

[@dannygeraldII]

C4. Its the look thats timeless, nostalgic, & unforgettable to me. I will say anyone who decides to get a corvette is ok in my books. Any year. I particularly have an 87. The new things ive added is tires p245 toyo extensa hp II, NEW: Radiator, yellowtop optima battery, fuel pump, fuel pump relay. I touched up the paint with red, but i will primer soon & change the color, what color would look best fellas? Let me know, thank you!

[@Toys4Life]

100% agree, and whatever color makes you smile the most is what it should be!

[@martinblanco7899]

I got my c5 for 103k miles for 14k but it is super clean to the point that my friends don’t want me to mod it lol I’m also from Minnesota

[@Toys4Life]

I love MN! I vote mod it to do whatever your interested in better!

[@Max-kk1wf]

educational. very good.

[@curtismuma1931]

Don't forget. The near 50. 50 Weight split

[@Toys4Life]

I was going to add that but, the C4 is pretty close to 50/50 too. Likely because of the fuel tank very close to the rear?

[@cdellis1000]

Agree with all of your points other than the looks = as you say that is a matter of personal taste!

[@ronsteitz4535]

The C5 having the lower entry sill plate and transmission moved to rear of car made interior of cabin more comfortable than C4.👍

[@truebetold65]

Both are beautiful

[@Toys4Life]

Indeed!

[@bobmrkus3185]

I love my C 5!

[@Toys4Life]

Nice!

[@daren9721]

I believe the c5 chasis was hydroformed.

[@Toys4Life]

Indeed!

[@gilgonzalez5902]

The 01+ C5 is really where its at and even more reliable long as you dont have the magnetic ride.

[@nunyabeeswax3061]

Me and my girlfriend each have 95 c4s and the main reason was price and there's no inspection where we live for cars 95 and lower.we also planned on driving them alot so a newer vette like the c5 would be kind of a waste of money.i put 8000 on mine she put 15 thousand on hers in the last 12 months.i definitely agree the c5 is a better performer and has the edge on looks.but I would be to concerned about it getting beat up the way we drive.our c4s were so cheap it was like a second used car.basicly paid less than 8 grand for each of them.we each have other everyday cars but we never drive them unless it's rain or snow or taking trash to the dump.lots of room under the clamshell hood for repairs which I've done alot! The opti isn't so bad as long as it's 95 96 vented style.also thread lock the rotor screws and seal the cap with some black rtv to keep her dry.putting a little snorkel on the water pump weep hole to direct coolant around the opti helps in case of that failure.

[@Toys4Life]

Nice - that would be cool to both have C4's!

[@GregSr]

I currently own both a C4 (1988) and a C5 (2003). I agree with all of your points. For me, the ignition systems are a huge factor. I love the C5's 8 coils and short spark plug wires. My 96 Impala SS (LT1) has the infamous opti-crap ignition system. It can't compare to the LS1 engine. My biggest gripe about my C5 is the rear main seal leaking. The local shop wants $1700 to fix it.

[@Toys4Life]

Hopefully it's not leaking horribly bad?

[@barco581]

I like how you said it is not to put down C4s or their owners. C4 owners can be a bit sensitive, haha.

[@Toys4Life]

Come on, now (:-)

[@bigikediesel]

I'm a bad C4Z owner, been an outside Z since the day I purchased her. Poor Juan has was garage kept for 24-years, not it's at 130k and lives outside. What a car.

[@Toys4Life]

Get a good cover and keep rodents away!

[@ChefofWar33]

It's better for the LS alone. But the transmission location is simply the icing on the cake. Makes for better weight distribution and a comfy interior.

[@Toys4Life]

Interior for sure, oddly enough the weight dist is almost the same between c4 & c5 I do believe.

[@ITWINGMAN]

I owned a 1994 C4 Convertible and I gave it to my son it was a dream, but the OPTI Spark is a deal breaker I had to keep the car dry and as long as I did it was very dependable but if it rained then it was hard to start even though it was covered and If I got caught in the rain it would start to stall. and the EVAP Canister cause major Gas Vapors to seep out because it clogged the PURGE Line.

[@zikegladion6848]

I definitely prefer the c4s looks, I just recently got a garage queen c4 for the same price as a good driving c5, and absolutely no regrets. It’s a triple black lt4 6 speed car, absolute peach. I’ve never seen a c5 that diddles my fiddle like many c4s including this one.

[@yesh3279]

Sound reasoning on your part. The style and design are of course subjective, as most aspects of choosing a Toy . For me. living in a remote area north 0f the49th one of the important considerations to go with the “General Mayhem” was Parts availability. Having considered Maserati ,Porsche even Ford/Jaguar, I dreaded the thought of having to drive 3-4hrs one way to have my Toy serviced. I absolutely agree with you on the styling aspect, though I went for the C6 Convertible. Having owned a C3 454 LS6 when I was young I am only to well aware of the shortcomings of Body on Frame Corvettes The C5/C6 and later are a vast improvement in all but the price categories. Another well done Video.

[@Toys4Life]

Thank you - much appreciated. 454 C3 with chassis reinforcements sounds fun! Love the old Big Block 454's!!

[@TheMjphoto45]

Love my 2000 triple black 6 spd convertible! Yes I replaced the Harmonic Balancer, oil sending unit and master cylinder clutch reservoir. 65 k miles. Pd 14,800 in 2019 and prob could get $18 k if I wanted to sell. Almost got a c6 2 years back but it was missing HUD and Bose. I will admit the c6 was quicker

[@Toys4Life]

Sounds like you got a good deal. Sell now and buy back in 3 years when prices go down??

[@toycorvette]

I just love C5, I had C4 but there is more power in base model C5 😎 and greetings from 🇫🇮

[@Toys4Life]

Finland, I believe?. Greetings back at you (:-).

[@toycorvette]

@@Toys4Life yes. Finland 😎

[@TJsVette]

The c4 was a beautiful car, but the redesign of the c5 was just one of the best looking cars of that time. I love my C5. I love the dash of the c6 but I hate the fact that they took away the pop up lights.

[@Toys4Life]

I prefer flip ups too - and the lenses don't get destroyed by the sun!

[@MC-uj4co]

I agree I got a well taken care of 04 C5

[@Toys4Life]

Nice 👍

[@jsmrgen]

I have a C5, C6 and C7. Just got a ‘96 LT4 Arctic White and put some masterflows people, especially young men, gravitate towards the car and want to see the lights flip….the other Cs didn’t get this much attention. People are starting to look at the C4s as retro and cool to have. The C5 is an amazing car and by far superior than the 4.

[@Toys4Life]

Very interesting comment, thanks for sharing!

[@kirkcunningham6146]

I have a 96 and just got done with tuning the car with Jets DST programmer. You would not believe the hidden torque and horsepower you can get with adjusting timing, wot tuning, transmission tuning that includes reducing torque management. GM bogged the car with allot of crap believe it or not. 95's and 96s are capable of much more especially torque once you tune it.

[@stephendibari5010]

Love the C5 more and more. It was my first pick, then liked the C6 and C7. I started saving for a C7 Stingray then realized they’re way too expensive, today a good used one w average miles is about $50k, conversely a good 2002 C5 base coupe is about $22k Yes the interior isn’t close to being as nice as a C7 interior but that’sOK. My current daily driver is a 2002 Lexus ES 300 which is all the luxury I need. The C5 to me has the cleanest and sleekest exterior. The C6 is more angular and less curvy In the summer of 2024 I should be ready to cherry pick a clean one or two owner, low to average miles base manual coupe w no mods (maybe exhaust). Non Z51 since I won’t be tracking it UPDATE: my savings will be put towards a 08-09 C6 base coupe manual non Z51. C6 is major improvement over the C5 both exterior and interior

[@Toys4Life]

Nice - Hopefully all used car prices will come back down to reality by 2024 as well!

[@stephendibari5010]

@@Toys4Life yes 🙌. A C5 like the one I’m looking for Pre-COVID would’ve been about $12-15k about $10k cheaper ! Ridiculous.

[@Toys4Life]

Indeed

[@jeidm9936]

Love the c5!!

[@Toys4Life]

Indeed!

[@mr.wildcat405]

Moving my C5Z to get the C6z. C5 is a good looking car.

[@Toys4Life]

C6 Z is a beast!

[@frankorasputin1929]

C5 ftw

[@StormAutoAdventures]

I agree. I much prefer the C5 overall, but the C4 is still amazing. Not including the C4 ZR1, my favorite attainable C4 models are the 1996 Corvette Grand Sport, and the 1996 Corvette LT4 Collector Edition. I don't like the lack of leg room, or room for your right foot while driving the C4. The tunnel sticks out so much, that your foot almost has to go around the wall of the tunnel to get your foot onto the drive pedal! For the C5... The (405 HP / 400 LB-FT) 2002-2004 C5 Z06, and the (350 HP / 375 LB-FT) 2002-2004 C5 Z51 MN6 are my favorite C5 models. The 2001-2004 LS1 Corvette with the automatic has (350 HP / 360 LB-FT). The 6 speed manual has the (375 LBFT). Can't go wrong with any well taken care of Corvette... I would only buy a 1995 or 1996 C4 Corvette if I were going to buy one. They had the least problems.

[@richarddobreny6664]

Comfort and balance because of the rear transaxle. Comfort because of a much wider footwell and weight distribution.

[@stephendibari5010]

Yes 🙌. C5 was the first Gen with a torque tube w rear transaxle and transmission giving nearly 50/50 weight distribution

[@Toys4Life]

The C4 is surprisingly close to 50/50 as well. Probably the gas tank placement in the rear?

[@maximusextreme3725]

Maybe I am just old but I find the C4 look much more pleasing to the eye than that of the C5. But like you said it's subjective.

[@Toys4Life]

Absolutely, you got to like the looks of what you're driving and it really doesn't matter if somebody else likes a Lamborghini or a c7!

[@Crypto13716]

I love my 85 c4

[@Toys4Life]

Sweet!

[@romanlugovoy5994]

Awesome 👏 The same reason why I bought a C6. Simple did not have enough money for C7 but C5 is older than C6

[@atokillers]

how much did you pay? i want one

[@romanlugovoy5994]

@@atokillers 25k

[@atokillers]

@@romanlugovoy5994 I can't find a clean c6 with the ls3 for 25k now 😫

[@romanlugovoy5994]

@@atokillers yea baddy, inflation got us hard

[@Toys4Life]

Even if I had the money, I am always a sucker for whatever I think gives me the best bang for the buck - unless is it extremely inferior - then I will pay up for better....

[@kirkcunningham6146]

96 tuned Z-51 here with Jets DST Tuner. I was looking at the C-5 but what turned me off was the bubble looking top and the rear being too high for my taste. The C-4 has a streamlined wedge to it. Your car is nice though, I enjoy following you...

[@Toys4Life]

Appreciate that, if the right c4 came along, I would like to buy one and see where that goes!

[@michaelcroos4713]

I got a white 88CJB Fiero Formula also,

[@Toys4Life]

You got me. What does CJB mean?

[@Ccrider363]

See I like the looks of the c4 way more just looks more classic. Might still buy a c5 and have one of each

[@Toys4Life]

Nothing wrong with that!

[@natesmemes1794]

*@Toys4Life I am currently looking to purchase a C5, I found one that is like new with 27,XXX miles on it.* *The car was in a minor fender bender, it needs a bumper, plastic radiator shroud, foam bumper support and 1 headlight.* *How much should I offer to pay for it?*

[@Toys4Life]

I would value the car vs others for sale in a 500 mile radius (assume they will sell for 90 - 95% of the asking price) and subtract the cost of the parts plus labor and paint and also subtract a margin for your effort and risk (in case something hidden is damaged) an the would get you in the ball park. Unless you specialize in repairing C5's you have to estimate these costs high or risk spending way to much when all said and done. Also - another deduction if the car will have a salvage title - that scares away a lot of buyers. If you fix a car - take tons of pics to the future buyer can see what was done and that it was done correctly.

[@bloodyman565]

Lol yep you know damn well every vette in MN is stored for the winter! I wouldn't even think about driving in the snow.

[@Toys4Life]

Only up the driveway if I have to back it out to do something quick in the garage and even that can be scary, LOL.

[@txsailor57]

My 89,000 2004 C5 doesn't have a single rattle or squeak. Non Corvette people are shocked when they find out its nearly 20 years old.

[@Toys4Life]

Absolutely modern looking!

[@gtdrummerdude]

I have a 40,000 mile C5 Z06 and an 80,000 mile one owner LT1 C4. Both clean and stock, problem free cars. I prefer the interior of the C4 with the sport seats. You have to climb into the car and drop down into heavily bolstered seats. It feels like a race car. There really isn't much difference in performance between an LT1 C4 and and a C5. The C5 is like 2 mph faster in the 1/4. You aren't gonna feel that. The 91+ C4 also has that cool jet fighter cockpit and it general it feels a bit like an old muscle car. I really like it, more than my C5Z in many ways.

[@Toys4Life]

Appreciate your honest opinion, love hearing from people who've had both!

[@MarkZart]

Sold my 2017 Black Rose GS with

[@Toys4Life]

How long ago and are there any main things that come to mind that you really miss about the C7 or really like about the C5 that the C7 doesn't offer?

[@philpernice4722]

Reason 6 and 7 Much Better dashboard layout and better windshield wiper direction

[@chadlafrennie4065]

You forgot to mention that c5 vettes are actually fairly fuel efficient. If you don't hoon them around you can get 20-30 mpg on the highway

[@Toys4Life]

While that is absolutely true - it didn't make my top 5. It would have made my top 10 though - I think!

[@georgebarich7298]

My 1992 C4 was my dream car in aqua marine turquoise with chrome wheels chrome door handles and emblems. Unfortunately, the body flex was so bad that it would crack the removable top. I babied this car and it never saw rain. With low mileage five years later,I took it to the Chevrolet dealer for a total inspection and they found nothing wrong. I proceeded to buy a new top for $1200 only do you have the body flex crack the new top as well. I kept the car for 25 years until I sold it for $10,000 with 50,000 miles. The GM dealership never informed me the car had excessive body flex under normal driving conditions. I’m still upset about it because they knew about it and did not recall the cars for repair or stiffening. I now own a 2004 commemorative edition coupe.

[@Toys4Life]

Excellent info, I appreciate your sharing sir!

[@gilgonzalez5902]

One downside about the C5 is that its more difficult to find with the 6 speed manual. Im in the market for a midrange example of a C5 currently as i want to daily drive it and finding a 6 speed is more difficult than i anticipated.

[@Toys4Life]

yeah, something like 20% are manuals? I remember my search as well looking up C5's and looking in the description only to see auto.... Nothing wrong with that - just not my preference either...

[@markcarlson8128]

Is there a common rear end whining noise. Without tearing the transmission and rear axle assembly apart, no one can tell where the whine is coming from??

[@gregmarkwood57]

Have your differencial fluid changed at dealership

[@Friedbrain11]

I like the looks of the C4 a bit better but know the C5 is better technology so that's the one I would pick of the 2. Yeah the Buick V6 3.8L iron block is actually lighter than the aluminum counterpart...strange.

[@destruxandexploze2552]

Would you take a C4 ZR-1 over a C5? I’m asking since the prices are similar and I know the ZR-1 is a damn good car, and definitely unique and collectible. But the C5 is also pretty good.

[@Toys4Life]

I'm not a big fan of rare engines because they can be difficult and expensive to repair / replace. That having been said, the ZR1 is pretty awesome, just make sure you know what you're getting into. And has a lot more parts availability.

[@19chucksmith70]

I have an off topic C5 question i cant find an answer to anywhere. I have an A/C leak somewhere. I get it charged 1x per year. It seems its leaking into the vents? Im getting a film on the inside of the windows mainly windshield. Hoping you can point me in the right direction. Thanks!

[@19chucksmith70]

1998 w 96k.

[@Toys4Life]

A small leak in the heater core will do that too. I am not an AC expert but if it is getting on your windows and is not a small leak in the heater core then perhaps your evaporator core is leaking. Hate to say it, not a fun job. Might want to get it professionally diagnosed to be sure. Good luck!

[@19chucksmith70]

@@Toys4Life Great.... thanks!!

[@croro7023]

The C5 is better overall in all objective categories. C4 has the 80’s charm. That’s all subjective though.

[@Sally-nd5pc]

Hello, where can i contact you about the product sponsorship?

[@Toys4Life]

Hi, [e-mail] - thank you!

[@chrisbelli445]

My gf's C5 has always been more reliable than my C6. My guess is the increased computerization.

[@Toys4Life]

What kind of issues have you had?

[@jaws2003]

I've been debating between the C5 and C6. I'm still torn.

[@drewb3665]

C5 all the way!

[@SLVRFOX88]

I’ve been waiting for a affordable C5 or C6 but have considered a C4. Seems only acceptable one would be a 1996 model I have driven a older 88 C4 I was not impressed. Plus most C4’s are automatic and I am seeking a 6spd manual.

[@Toys4Life]

6-speed manual c4s are a pretty rare animal is my understanding.

[@rcghalohell]

how hard is it to work on these compared to a typical rwd sports car?

[@Toys4Life]

I don't think they are too bad. Probably much easier (and cheaper) than a Porsche...lol

[@ericdolby1622]

I'm currently saving for a 2008 C6. They are slowly dropping to $28k or less.

[@Toys4Life]

Indeed 👍

[@jamesstaggs4160]

The price gap between these is starting to get smaller. Honestly I prefer the look of th C4 to the C5, but the C5 is just a way better car all around. I mean it has maybe the best V8 of all time. The L98 isn't bad at all and the LT1 is pretty great, but when you're talking about the LS nothing else compares to it. I don't care if everyone is sick of hearing about it, it's awesome. Then there's the awful 4+3 Doug Nash that's in most manual C4s, and I wouldn't want any automatic Corvette. The 6 speed with the L98 in the 90-91 models is a better combo, then the 92-95 with the LT1 is even better. Step up to the 330 hp LT4 with all 6 speed 96 Vettes and it's getting pretty close to the C5, but that also means on price as well. C4s are going up while the C5s look to be getting ready to hit their bottom.

[@speedfiend925]

Would you buy a C5 as daily driver given how old they are now?

[@Toys4Life]

If it was well taken care of, I think I would! I would consider a C6, but the price differential is still quite large and I think it will come down whenever we get back to normal automotive price times.

[@ramirezbrian86]

Should I still be waiting for Corvette prices to drop

[@Toys4Life]

I think they will continue to come down slowly for another year or two. I could be wrong (no one has a crystal ball to know 100% for sure). Whether or not you should wait depends on your financial situation, how old you are (i.e., how much time you have left to enjoy a Corvette) and other factors that only you can decide. If you plan to keep the car for a long time, price IMO is less important. Good luck!

[@vantharasc9967]

Man I wish you could film my car. I'm so stuck right now and just pulling my hair out with what to do. It would probably be even more content for your channel but I'm so far away.

[@Toys4Life]

Luckily there is youtube, you can pretty much find out how to do anything! What are you stock on?

[@vantharasc9967]

@@Toys4Life Well I got a boost gauge / fuel pressure duel gauge so that's taken care of. For the price of a boostapump it seems I could just swap the fuel pump on my 02 vette with like a Walbro 455 or something along those lines. I'm really stuck on finding a good guide for HPtuners and a supercharged LS1.

[@warzonefitness8937]

The LT1 is about as fast as the LS1, the LT4 and LT5 put all C5s to shame, the C4 is cheaper as well, for now. The only C4 corvettes one should look for when on the fence between the 2 is a zr1, 96 manual, or 95 manual, aside from that the C4 isn't quite as good for previous years to be compared to a C5 aside from the 90-95 Zr1s

[@davyhendrix]

I got C3 C4 and C5 I am keeping the C5 all three are hard to get in and out of but I like C5 the best, I am not a chevy guy or car guy my Nissan Titan is still my best ride but the corvette was an impulse buy

[@Toys4Life]

Fair enough 😉

[@davyhendrix]

@@Toys4Life so far after watching your videos and experiencing owning a C5 corvette I have replaced battery with a optimum battery I will replace altenator and replace radiator with a all aluminum for high performance engines I hope this fixes the electrical problems and overheating problem I have experienced, next problem is active handling thanks for all your help with videos and knowledge of these sensitive cars.

[@michaelm3381]

Not a Chevy guy, but owns 3 of them...ok.

[@davyhendrix]

@@michaelm3381 yes I did own 3 but now I only kept the C5 and the only problem I have with it is I am waiting for the title it's taking some time this is the first Chevy I have ever owned

[@ajcates9136]

I’ve had 3 c4 vetts and 1 c 5 and I will never sell the c5 best car I have ever had

[@Toys4Life]

Nice - Assuming the C4s were different years, which year was your favorite & why?

[@ajcates9136]

@@Toys4Life my 85 hauled ass it was tuned port and I got it for 1500 wrecked sold it for 11

[@rogermurph101]

Subjective is right. I’ve always thought the rear end on the C5 was too tall. Looks like a big fat ass. I also prefer the rotating headlights of the C4 to the plain old pop up C5 lights. The main reason the C4 is superior looks-wise is the profile. The slope of the glass hatch merges more subtly with the rear deck, whereas the C5 looks more like a bubble sitting on top of a slab. Yes, the frame is more rigid and it handles better. The LS motor is superior to a conventional small block. The tech is superior. So what? Not everyone is into road racing and pushing their car to the limits. Many just want a basically stock vehicle. If it’s one or the other, I’m going with a C4. Ideally, I’d have both. Oh, and a C3 while I’m at it.

[@Toys4Life]

Fair enough!

[@rapid13]

Funny. To me, the C4 still looks like the future while the C5 looks _exactly_ like the 90s: ridiculous bubble everything.

[@Toys4Life]

I love the fact that we all have different preferences!

[@johnsmithth3318]

Yup, opti and cooling issues on the c4

[@steveo3947]

That's if you get the later c4s with the lt1 for the opti. The 85-91 I believe are l98 350 tpi with a traditional cap location. The l98 still runs hot though, mine runs about 195-212 on average and it climbs fast at a drive through or stop light

[@Toys4Life]

What are the cooling issues you are referring to?

[@johnsmithth3318]

For some reason after doing top end it would eventually hydrolock, coolant would leak into the cylinders and crack the heads

[@c4vettester]

I think you might have missed the point of owning a C4. One part of C4's beauty is in its imperfections 😉. The imperfections are what makes them so fun to drive and perfect to own 😁. If you want your overall driving experience to be clean and polished (boring that is), then of course newer Corvettes are a better choice. It really comes down to what you want from your Corvette and how much money you want to spent into something that has four wheels in it. I personally don't like the looks of C5s that much 🤔. Their rear end design and puffiness is too much for my taste. Now don't get me wrong here, but in my opinion the C5 looks like a slacked off egg 😉.

[@Toys4Life]

I think I should get one as a project vehicle and see if you're right! I think it would be fun and after all, it's a Corvette!

[@c4vettester]

@@Toys4Life If you enjoy your Corvette and if it makes you smiling happy driving it, then I think that is just the right Corvette generation for you and no matter what someone else thinks of it. If somebody likes C4 better, well good for him/her. And if someone prefers C5 or perhaps C6, then that is equally fine too 👍.

[@winstonmccollum8992]

I own a 95 convertible......wouldn't trade it for 2 C5s. C5 is better looking? They are as big as an Impala!

[@Toys4Life]

You cold trade it for 2 C5's, sell em both, use the cash to buy a nicer c4 and pocket the difference? J.K. I get it - you prefer the C4 and that is totally cool! I might get one too some day - you never know!

[@danielmendricks7205]

I just never liked the styling, which is one of the biggest reasons to own a Vette in the first place!

[@JustaHondaAccord]

Nice pure hockey shirt you play?

[@Toys4Life]

Thanks! All winter Nov - March. You?

[@JustaHondaAccord]

@@Toys4Life nice, play year around. Thanks for posting the harmonic balancer video I didn't know you could slip the rack out without dropping the subframe. Just wrapping up my front crank seal leak.

[@rusilver2]

to sum up - buy the newest, lowest mileage corvette you can afford to pay cash with ...

[@Toys4Life]

Not a bad plan!

[@b58hustler71]

The problem with the C5 is trying to get electronic parts.

[@Toys4Life]

Some of them can be challenging for sure.

[@jeffspicolli593]

C5 is better than C4 in everyway except appearance. For me C5 looks too round and bloated especially the enormous butt covering the transaxle. It's C4 or C6 for me.

[@victorremick9721]

I don't know you are saying you no longer love your grand mother becouse she has wrinkles and wables a bit when she walks.But she is sweeter then ever. You make your own desition.

[@Toys4Life]

I dearly miss both of my Grandmas!!!