★ 🇨🇭Cab ride along the Rhein, Glattbrugg - Basel RB, Switzerland [11.2018]

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Enjoy a beautiful trip along the Rhein, the northern boarder of Swizterland and Germany on a late Autumn's day. This is a very special stretch of track, especially the section between Koblenz and Laufenburg, because there is no longer passenger services operating on it. It is one of the few tracks in Switzerland serving only freight traffic. The highlight for me is crossing the Aare river just before it enters the Rhein after Koblenz. We are travelling with 2 empty Kerosin trains coupled together, forming a long but not overly heavy tank car train with destination Germany.
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[@jgbusey]

I love these cargo train videos, you get to enjoy the ride and see the country without stopping every 2 mile to pickup passengers.

[@uwesiewert168]

Schön mal wieder diese Strecke zu fahren. Das Wetter war anfangs nicht so toll. Aber wie lautet ein alter Slogan der Bundesbahn : "Alle reden vom Wetter, wir nicht. " 😁

[@patrick8490]

Je regarde cette vidéo avec retard. Le parcours est magnifique et doit être très intéressant pour la conduite. Merci beaucoup et sincères salutations.

[@lorirocks777]

Merci beaucoup!

[@richardhaas2487]

Deine Videos geben einen herrlichen Eindruck über die schönen Strecken in der Schweiz. Danke für diese Mitfahrt und Danke für die interessanten, eingeblendeten Informationen.

[@lorirocks777]

Gerne =)

[@Tridhos]

I have had several boat trips along the Rhein and I would repeat them over and over if I could, wonderful scenery, fantastic food and great atmosphere wherever you dock.

[@robertcummings1971]

!Man! this train ride is fantastic Iorirocks777, even in the rain i am enjoying the beautiful scenery of switzreland, so im just going to sit back with some nice music in the backround and enjoy. great video my friend!

[@iantaf5559]

That was a great journey along the north of Switzerland. There some great cab rides coming out of Switzerland these days. Many thanks 👍🏼

[@lorirocks777]

Thanks for watching! There are more to come :)

[@HenrysAdventures]

Brilliant video! I really enjoyed seeing the freight only line from Koblenz to Laufenburg.

[@lorirocks777]

Thanks! I have filmed it in 4K both directions, just need to get round to editing. I have about 40 videos to edit.

[@HenrysAdventures]

@@lorirocks777 I know that feeling! I've got quite a few of my own videos to edit.

[@claudi.o]

Nice trip through one of the most beautiful countries in the world.

[@Welcome_back_96]

Люблю такую погоду! Спасибо автору за комфортное путешествие! 🤓

[@dereuregioman]

Danke für das mitnehmen. Wieder eine tolle Fahrt!!!!!

[@lorirocks777]

Danke =)

[@stefanwernli190]

Super Video entlang dem Rhein, eine Strecke die man leider nicht oft sieht. Danke

[@adamw1944]

Excellent video. I love all your cab rides.

[@lorirocks777]

Thank you!

[@UncleKenInAz]

Thanks so much for the beautiful ride along the Rhein. So different from Arizona USA. Happy Christmas to you and yours!

[@lorirocks777]

Ken Gardner Thank you! Glad you liked it. Merry Christmas & happy holidays to you too!

[@jstyson68]

Great video informative and very pretty thank you for allowing us to see and learn

[@herbertbasta3578]

Herzlichen Dank für die Mitnahme, wieder ein super Video!!! Ihre Fahrten sind immer sehr schön ;-) Herzliche Grüße aus Österreich!

[@lorirocks777]

Herbert Basta Das ist nett von Ihnen, danke vielmals!

[@ulricha.]

Danke! Es macht Spaß, bei Ihnen "mitzufahren". :)

[@slycat1939]

First time watcher of your videos. Very nicely done. Great views. Will be watching more of your videos often. Thanks for sharing with us. Safe travels ahead for you. God bless.

[@lorirocks777]

slycat1939 Thanks for the nice comment! God bless you too!

[@volodymyrkarpyak4158]

Congratulations! 0:00:37 Glattbrugg 0:03:35 Rümlang 0:05:58 Oberglatt 0:07:20 Niederglatt 0:11:06 Bülach 0:13:47 Glattfelden 0:17:03 Eglisau 0:23:00 Zweidlen 0:25:52 Weiach-Kaiserstuhl 0:26:36 Kaiserstuhl 0:30:18 Rümikon 0:30:48 Rümikon-Mellikon 0:31:31 Mellikon 0:32:33 Rekingen 0:37:49 Bad Zurzach 0:42:48 Rietheim 0:45:34 Koblenz Dorf 0:46:36 Koblenz 0:49:48 Felsenau 0:52:17 Full 0:55:45 Leibstadt 0:57:36 Schwaderloch 1:00:39 Etzgen 1:02:18 Sulz 1:04:29 Laufenburg 1:08:24 Sisseln 1:11:11 Stein-Säckingen 1:15:22 Mumpf 1:19:06 Möhlin 1:21:17 Rheinfelden 1:22:30 Rheinfelden Augarten 1:24:28 Kaiseraugst 1:25:32 Salina Raurica 1:26:43 Pratteln 1:32:04 Basel RB E 1:34:25 Basel RB F 1:36:03 Basel RB G

[@adamw1944]

Excellent and interesting video. Thanks.

[@lorirocks777]

Thanks for the comment. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@milankanka5329]

Veľmi prekrasne natočené video 😉😉😉😉😉. Perfektné super 😃😃😃😃.

[@herbertbasta3578]

Werter Herr, ich habe mir Heute dieses Video wieder angesehen und ich finde, dass die Schweiz wunderschön ist!!! Mit den besten Grüssen aus Bad Vöslau!

[@luziapereira6491]

Amazing !! This country is very interesting . Thank for share it , writing the names of stations and others precious informations . Lots of love from Brazil in this Christmas .

[@lorirocks777]

Luzia Pereira Thanks for the nice comment. I appreciate it. Have a great christmas too, God bless!

[@jansmith574]

vielen dank. War sehr schön!

[@gerryconmy]

A beautiful cab run

[@kurtoderbolz8878]

schöner Film, macht Spass wieder einmal die alte Stecke (Eglisau - Laufenburg) zu befahren. Da der Personenverkehr leider eingestellt ist.

[@robertcoleman4861]

A wonderful journey in a beautiful country even when it's been raining thank you kind regards bob from "OZ" (sydney australia).

[@lorirocks777]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@GoUSA111]

Switzerland, my favorite place in the whole world other than the US.

[@TheDubischeggia]

BELLA LINEA, CIAO!!

[@lorirocks777]

TheDubischeggia Grazie :)

[@mickboakes7023]

Really great video. Nice to see the type of loco/train that you are traveling in. Wish more cab ride sites would do this, also good to have English captions as well. One thing that is so noticeable as on other European railways is lack of line side fencing. Does this mean the Swiss public are more responsible and sensible as to not endanger themselves by roaming on the railway? Not here in the U.K. high fences and barbed wire have to be used to keep the morons out. Such a shame. The other noticeable thing is lack of litter and rubbish, along with Indian railways the U.K. must be the worst. You are so lucky in Switzerland.

[@MH-pt2co]

great movie and train trail :-) it's a pity bad weather restricts the light to the camera

[@lorirocks777]

This line is also covered on a sunny summer day in the video "St Margrethen - Basel"

[@declankudo8762]

awesome video...tq so much... cant wait 4 d next vids...

[@steveamurray59]

Excellent Video, Thanks.

[@proserhat]

Good old days :)

[@YoutubeCrittic]

Hi from Canada..great ride ty.

[@christianehagen9557]

Super, sogar mit Ortsnamen obwohl es ein Güterzug ist. Wozu dient SIM?

[@herrkiwi3110]

Awesome. Thanks for sharing !

[@lorirocks777]

herr kiwi Thank you

[@karinzimmermann70]

Minute 53: Vorbeifahrt am Gelände des Vereins, Verein 241-A-65 Dort steht auch die Namensgeberin des Vereins die Französische Schnellzugdampflok 241-A-65

[@jimsmoter4510]

Those were two great shots of the train at minute 39:43 & 39:53 . The ride along through Switzerland was amazing, the towns, the scenery is beautiful. Those tank cars at minute 52:25 are they stainless steel ? Very fun cab ride..Thanks for sharing

[@polishboy375]

Dziękuje

[@Stas1661]

красота))))😊

[@u.s.6909]

I notice no loud horns or bells needed for the train unlike the U.S. Interesting.

[@AndreiTupolev]

Laufenberg is interesting, twin towns, one each side of the river, one in Germany and one in Switzerland

[@Deathcult82]

Great footage!Thanks a ton! Yes that curved steel bridge was very nice and the overal route too.Also the huge yard in Basel ;)The left to die vandalized Re's on 1:23:51 on the other hand was not so nice to see.Shame.

[@lorirocks777]

Basilis Gian Thanks for the comment! Glad you liked it!

[@GerhardKlaus]

Hallo Bei 33:30, Bad Zurzach stehen auf der linken Seite einige abgestellten Stadler Fahrzeuge. Was sind das für welche? Sind das die Fahrzeuge, die ab Fahrplanwechsel Dez. 2018 auf der Strecke Waldshut-Bülach eingesetzt werden? Gruss Gerhard

[@lorirocks777]

Ich weiss es nicht. Der RABe 522 ist aber für Genf vorgesehen

[@GerhardKlaus]

Danke für die Info. Auf der S 36 sind RABe 520 der Seetalbahn

[@anmolmehta7116]

What a nice journey and that too on a freight train which rarely stops at any station. Got to view Switzerland's nuclear power plant and chemical plant for the first time.

[@lorirocks777]

Thank you! Glad you liked it!

[@ShefTimi]

Tolle Aufnahmen! Obwohl ich gerade neben dem Rangierbahnhof Basel wohne, die erste Hälfte des nördlichen Teils habe ich noch nie gesehen. Musste der Zug zuerst geteilt werden, bis weiter Indien Hafen fahren konnte? Warum wird dieser Zug nicht immer doppelt geführt? Das wäre ja vermutlich günstiger.

[@adamw1944]

The video starts at fuel unloading facility at Zurich airport. Am I right ? Best regards.

[@lorirocks777]

Correct

[@letraindejardin]

Sympa, merci pour repartage !

[@RedstonePinkenba]

What a beautiful ride, Do you ever see any large animals like deer or bear?

[@lorirocks777]

RedstonePinkenba Sometimes you see deer, foxes and other small animals. If there's a bear in Switzerland everybody knows about it and where it is. It's not common.

[@JimboUSAF007]

Love the video!! ..... Is there a reason why trains ride on the left side and not the right track?

[@lorirocks777]

Thanks. Switzerland copied Britan.

[@JimboUSAF007]

@@lorirocks777 I see ^_^

[@frankkleij9149]

Strange similarities there between Swiss Koblenz and German Koblenz. Both situated at the left Rhinebank, both at the merger of two imposing rivers,the town in the fork of these rivers and both somewhat downstream. nearby downstream have a nuclear powerplant. Swiss situation is a smaller copy of the German situation

[@lorirocks777]

Didn't know that!

[@frankkleij9149]

Dream job in a dreamland.Ihappen to live just close where the Rhine , or tw branches of it plunge into the NorthSea. and worked after my retirement some time at the start-/endpoint of much of your transittraffic The APM- ECT containerterminal.

[@stefankraas601]

Super video. Aller erste sahne.

[@lorirocks777]

Stefan Kraas Besten Dank

[@AndreiTupolev]

Oh, that's Koblenz is it. Not the one in Germany. What an interesting single track fright only line that is.

[@worldbestpilot]

Yepp, the Koblenz at the young river Rhine - more downstream there will be the other - a bit larger - German Koblenz.

[@Lorijenken]

Greetings from Canada just passing by and sub's also that compared to the trains here in Onterrible,Canada Europe has some nice F [expletive deleted] ing trains....

[@tolipwen1487]

Thanks, I had fun at 25Hz.

[@jwslijm7278]

Hmm 2 * Koblenz an der Rhein!

[@hansspycher3272]

An meinem Wohnort Laufenburg, fahren täglich die Züge für das Tanklager in Rümlang (Glattbrugg) durch. Ich habe, aber noch nie, über 20 Kesselwagen an einem Zug gezählt. (Beim aufstarten vom Film, wird von 40 Kesselwagen gesprochen.)

[@lorirocks777]

Hans Spycher Es wurde 2 Leerzüge zusammengekkupelt und miteinander nach Basel geführt. Es mag sein dass dies nicht oft vorkommt - längere Züge fahren in der Regel via Bözberg da die Kreuzungsbahnhöfe in der Länge nicht reichen. Planmässig hätte eine Kreuzung in Sisseln stattgefunden. Das musste aber anders gelöst werden. Lieber Gruss

[@paulw.woodring7304]

Former U. S. railroader here. I'm trying to understand the Swiss signaling system a little bit. Can someone tell me what the signal in a circle with a digital number below it means? There were several shown, one was showing "6", another "4", and I believe one was a "7". There is no equivalent in the U. S. as far as i know. I'm thinking it is there to tell the engineer where there are multiple possible tracks a train could take, which one his train is heading for? Am I close to what it means?

[@lorirocks777]

This article explains the meaning. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_railway_signalling

[@paulw.woodring7304]

@@lorirocks777 Thank you.

[@MidnightVisions]

@48:21 Interesting, on the bridge, the safety rail on the left side is missing. Since the track is curving right, the right side safety rail won't stop a derailment.

[@lorirocks777]

MidnightVisions The right safety rail actually stops the train from veering to the left in the case of a derailment by catching the right wheels.

[@MidnightVisions]

@@lorirocks777 But if it derails to the right, then there is noting stopping it. The train is not only curving to the right, the track is super elevated, (leaning to the right). The safety rails should be on both sides, not just one. Its incomplete.

[@lorirocks777]

MidnightVisions Perhaps. The tracks are forcing the train to the right even though the momentum wants to continue straight. The way I see it, if the train derailed, it would tend to veer to the left, in accordance with the momentum. Also, the left wheels would eventually be caught on the inside rail, stopping the train from continuing to the right. The speed limit on the bridge is 30km/h, so if there was a derailment, I don't think much would happen before the train stopped.

[@MidnightVisions]

@@lorirocks777 The purpose of safety rails are to prevent the train from hitting either sides of the bridge after derailment. If the train derails within the safety rail zone it can be lifted back onto the track. Once the train contacts the bridge sides in a derailment, the bridge and the train will be very damaged, and external equipment will be required to remove the train and repair the bridge. Having a rail on one side assumes the train will derail only in an over speed situation, whereas a broken rail, or expansion / contraction misalignment can cause a derailment to either side.

[@lorirocks777]

MidnightVisions I see.. Ok

[@tomaeberhard6534]

in Full stehen moderne Loks wie Re 6/6 etc. Was passiert mit denen da? super video, merci!

[@lorirocks777]

Meines Wissens handelt es sich um Loks die revisions- oder repuraturfällig sind. Bei bedarf werden sie reaktiviert und sonst werden sie verschrottet wie die in Kaiseraugst.

[@tomaeberhard6534]

lorirocks777 genau! es ist laut EA 1/2019 die Re 620 058, die seit November da abgestellt ist.

[@OStrip]

almost hypnotic ;)

[@AndreiTupolev]

I presume those locos with the faces painted on them in the siding down on the left at 1:23:45 are withdrawn?

[@lorirocks777]

AndreiTupolev Yes. A number of Re 4/4 II & IIIs have been withdrawn recently due to changes in local freight traffic. The ironic part is their scraps end up in the Eoas wagons that they once pulled :-(

[@lorirocks777]

There are often 2 phases they go through. First they can be deactivated and put aside if demand isn't high. This usually happens when they're due for a major service. At 53:14 you can see locomotives that have been deactivated. Afterwards they are either reactivated or scrapped, and Kaiseraugst is one of the places they get scrapped. Reactivation is usually carried out in Bellinzona.

[@falkklemm4096]

Hallo ." Bin gerade in Bad Zurzach " . Schon ein paar mal gesehen bei den Gegenzügen . Haben die Türen irgendeine Bedeutung oder ist das nur , damit die Züge bunter sind . Eine Tür rot , die nächste blau , die dritte grün . 🚊👍

[@kurtoderbolz8878]

diese gelten vermutlich dem Unterschied von Turbo (andere Bahngesellschaft) und SBB - Flirts, verkehren auch zwischen Schaffhausen und Kreuzlingen - (Rorschach) das ganze ist nur eine Vermutung

[@mich14fr]

I wonder why don't you use a horn? Is it forbidden in Switzerland?

[@lorirocks777]

Using it for fun is forbidden - there are signals and situations demanding the use of the horn / whistle though.

[@AndreiTupolev]

Those locos have an air whistle. Like at 1:08:50 to scare that flock of birds.

[@mich14fr]

@@lorirocks777 Yes of course, but I noticed that at PKP RP1 is given much more often, for example when you start the train, sometimes when you pass a standing train or before crossroads

[@mich14fr]

@@AndreiTupolev yes, nice sound 🙂

[@chrismuller9289]

via... KOBLENZ ??? Liebe Schweizer, ihr wollt doch nicht etwa beim Nachbarn einmarschieren??? ;) Dennoch schöne Fahrt, danke für's Teilen :)

[@stefanix1956]

Chris Müller Nein keine Angst, wir bleiben in unserem Land. Aber wir haben auch ein Koblenz in CH.

[@chrismuller9289]

Das erklärt natürlich so einiges ;)

[@herbertgoesl4512]

Hallo, Frachtfelsen triple7. Menschen begehen manchmal Trugschlüsse. Ich hoffe dies ist mir bei meiner Anrede misslungen. Ich habe diese angenehme und äusserst lehrreiche Mitfahrt genossen (auch die doppelte Fahrt über die Aare als Finale) und möchte mich herzlich dafür bedanken. Die Gleisbelegung scheint in der Schweiz fixer gehandhabt zu werden als in Deutschland. Kompliment dafür nach Süden. Dass die Güterzugfahrt von Opfikon bei Zürich nach Basel über Eglisau durchgeführt wird war für mich zwar verwunderlich aber vorteilhaft, weil ich die Strecke von Eglisau bis Laufenburg (CH) seit 1955 nicht mehr befahren habe. Damals in umgekehrter Richtung mit einem Goggo-Motorroller!. locirocks 777, Du bist für mich eine zuverlässliche Quelle, weil ich finde es freffsicher sideline im Englischen für Anschluss- oder Verbindungsgleis zu verwenden. Weniger Starke hätten vielleicht connection track benutzt. Nochmals vielen Dank. -:)Herb. Abo 5789 und Daumen-hoch 261 ist von mir

[@herbertgoesl4512]

Hallo Lokfelsen, ich war bei meinem ersten Kommentar zu leichtfertig, weil ich zum Essen gerufen wurde. Jetzt vermute ich, dass sich Dein Loci auf Loks bezieht. Mein Trugschluss war, dass Du dich auf lorries bezogst, was das Britisch Englische Wort für das Amerikanische Trucks (also LKWs) ist. Du bist ja beim Belehren gut; aber ich glaube hier habe ich es nicht mehr nötig. Beste Grüsse. Herb.

[@hcrun]

39:46 Did you get out and take the photo? :)

[@lorirocks777]

Bruce Kennewell Yep

[@hcrun]

@@lorirocks777 Nice locos. :) Thanks for the video....you live and work in a beautiful country. Here's a little factoid, piece of trivia, you may not be aware of: Although Australia is a vast, mostly dry land, with the bulk of the population centres on the coastal fringes, we do have an alpine region in part of our Great Dividing Range. The alps (located in New South Wales and Victoria) receive good snowfalls in winter and are home to ski-fields and tourist resorts. The area is tiny in comparison to the rest of the continent....but...... ...........our snowfields are larger than all of Switzerland. :)

[@bobparsons77]

Mother from Basle!

[@-hsp1646]

贵国环境棒极了👍

[@meestersiemen]

Hello! How do you write a star in the video title?

[@lorirocks777]

Meester Siemen Google "alt characters"

[@meestersiemen]

lorirocks777 thank you very much!!! 👍

[@jura18Jrk]

woher hast du en die Bewilligung das zu filmen?

[@CoreyKinley]

+lorirocks777 nice video i really enjoy the cab ride :)

[@jannickcst]

53:22 Was ist mit diesen RE4/4 Loks und der RE6/6?

[@jaeschol]

Abgestellt von SBB Cargo da kein Bedarf im Moment. Ein Teil wurde aber inzwischen wieder reaktiviert.

[@geistdernacht7671]

👍

[@TOM-hr4uj]

👏👏👏🇧🇷

[@danamack7405]

What company owned the Re 421 ?

[@lorirocks777]

WRS

[@danamack7405]

@@lorirocks777 WRS (Widmer Rail Services AG) ? bahnbilder.ch/pictures/large/30420.jpg ?

[@danamack7405]

Is there any way to note the company of the unit, be it SBB, WRS or whatever ? Thanks.

[@andreyskorolitny2391]

👍 👍 👍

[@anthonyjohnramsey]

why has so many stations closed

[@hcrun]

@Dr Moriarty That can't be correct, Doc. There are passenger trains seen in the video .... here's one approaching at 17:40 (Eglisau). My guess is that as it is 10:45 AM (refer to clock on RH platform 18:10 ), commuters are at work. He does say that "...between Koblenz and Laufenburg....", so maybe that's the section without passenger service?

[@kornellred]

Simple. There were not enough passengers at certain locations to justify keeping the stations open.

[@swisspeach67]

Some were closed, because (as @kornellred already noted) there were not enough passengers. On the other hand, some new stations were opened: Rheinfelden Augarten (about 10 years ago) and Salina Raurica (I don't know, when this one opened)

[@hcrun]

Railway corridors the world over are canvasses for graffiti. One thing we all have in common, regardless of race, creed or colour.

[@lorirocks777]

When did graffiti become common? If you look at railway pictures from the 80's in Switzerland you pretty much won't find any trains with any graffiti.

[@hcrun]

@@lorirocks777 In the late 80's - early 90's, as mobile phones & the internet evolved. It was the same down here.......graffiti on rolling stock and lineside infrastructure was rarely seen before the mid-80's.

[@robertgambling502]

I think you may have to go to North Korea to see any railways without graffiti.

[@paul-andrelarose3389]

Beautiful country and fantastic Railway plant. However, one cannot but be saddened by the extent of the graffiti on everything that vandals can use to display their mediocrity. Ontario, Canada. 2019/12/24.

[@worldbestpilot]

Sehr, sehr gut ! Sicher kennst Du diese fulminante Nachfahrt vom F.S.M.F. ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3TbaoSXbL-Fi6c

[@beneditocarlosgama2298]

e isto mesmo e asim que ser fazer acontece oque vier sera de bom para ho nosso brasil intervenção ou ditadura militar

[@dursundoyman2083]

Ta y57

[@OLIBAHN475]

Püntig, gleis Kreuz minute genau... via. ZentralComputer...

[@berndmayer3984]

für einen Laptop ist das Objektiv zu weitwinklig.

[@lorirocks777]

Meinen Sie den Seitenverhältnis? Das ist 16:9, was seit etwa 2010 Standard ist, auch für DVDs. Ich habe leider nicht Zeit für jeden Geschmack und Bildschirmtyp einen neuen Film zu bereiten. Ich mache das alles gratis. Wenn Sie mir etwas bezahlen möchten kann ich auch exträ für Sie und Ihre Bedürfnisse Aufnahmen machen. Tut mir Leid aber manche Leute verstehen nicht wie viele Stunden dahinter stecken.

[@berndmayer3984]

@@lorirocks777 ist ja alles schön gemacht und in Ordnung. Ich meine, nur etwas mehr Brennweite ( ist das überhaupt möglich? ) könnte nicht schaden.

[@lorirocks777]

Bernd Mayer Die Brennweite war 25mm. Ich habe die ausgewählt dass man noch möglichst viel sieht was rundherum ist. Weitwinkliger gefällts mir auch nicht mehr da alles vorbogen wird. Ihrer Meinung nah gibts zu viel zu sehen im Bild?

[@berndmayer3984]

@@lorirocks777 ich nehme an, 25mm ist die Umrechnung der tatsächlichen Brennweite auf das alte Kleinbildformat. Ja, man sieht mehr drumrum aber um den Preis, dass z.B. die Schienen zu schnell im Fluchtpunkt verschwinden und die entfernten Punkte unnatürlich schnell heraneilen. Natürlich gibt es zu jeder Brennweite und jeder Bildschirmgröße den richtigen Betrachtungsabstand. In meinem Fall mit Laptop sind das ca.25 cm was aber nicht praktikabel ist. Kurzum: meist werden speziell die weitwinkligen Aufnahmen aus zu weiter Entfernung betrachtet. - sagt der ExFotograf :-) So 28 mm Brennweite würde schon helfen. Weiterhin gute Fahrt!

[@lorirocks777]

Bernd Mayer Ok. Ich probiere es mal mit eine grössere Brennweite. Danke, Ihnen alles gute.

[@meeeeeen6385]

架線でっか

[@eddyjaffeux5640]

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