Calculating how much wax part two - water fill method explained

[@PeaceLoveMakeup27]

Just to point out... The math at the beginning is not correct. 15X.9 is 13.5 not 1.35 as you state. 15X.09 is 1.35. Luckily though 15-1.35 is 13.65 so the answers are pretty close either way. But this might not be the case for every vessel.

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

PeaceLoveMakeup27 lol oops! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Moving too fast. 😂 Thank you!

[@PeaceLoveMakeup27]

Standley Handcrafted I've made lots of mistakes like that myself lol! I love your videos, very helpful!

[@KaptureMotion]

I thought I was tripping so is it .09 or .9.....

[@itztheaustin]

@@KaptureMotion also wondering this, is it .09 or 9?

[@itztheaustin]

@@StandleyHandcrafted so is it .09 or 9?

[@callmeclaireee]

I just started making candles last week and I just wanted to say thank you for sharing all your tips and tricks. So many people gatekeep the information they have and don’t like to help people starting out and trying to get better. I appreciate it so much!

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

You're welcome, the gatekeeping always baffled me too. I mean at its core its a simple recipe so why hide it. The real creativity comes after that and its all personal preference so why not share it.

[@fredziffle5219]

We make candles just for us. We’re not all competitors out here. It’s expensive but we enjoy it. The trial & error is frustrating so good advice is much appreciated.

[@CrazyMonkey82]

Finally someone explains this in clear English! Thank you so much!

[@catisouffrant]

Thank you! I’ve been trying to figure out the amount of wax I need for my jars. This actually makes sense.

[@paulaneely6722]

I flunked math but after watching your video over and over it is finally sinking in ❤️

[@ebonywilson5375]

Thank you so much a beginner candle maker and I was trying to figure out the ratio of wax to oil for my vessel s AGAIN, THANK YOU, I am shouting on purpose 😊☺

[@brandimarie9798]

This is super helpful for me because my containers will be handmade so this formula will help me tremendously in determining the exact amount I need to fill it properly!!

[@cs_fl5048]

Wax is LESS dense weight/volume or, technically p=m/V p(density)- m (MASS, not weight, actually) divided by Volume. So less weight (or mass) in the same volume is lower density. Paraffin is about 0.93gm/ml. Beeswax is nearer to water at around 0.96 (give or take a bit because it varies a lot); standard soy is indeed 0.9g/ml. Blended waxes obviously have a variety of densities, but 0.9 is close enough. This method eliminates having to deal with the coefficient of expansion.... But that's another story.

[@juliakarn3989]

Would .09 apply to all waxes? I use coco 83 and haven’t been able to find a density in their specifications document. Thank you Jeff!

[@flowyflum3696]

Amazing thank you. I’ve been going mad with different measurements and how much to wax weighs melted and not melted! And it doesn’t help I’m from the UK so we don’t use oz often, just grams!

[@user-jw5zc6ft6v]

great video very informative , but is there any where that I can find the correct and full formula after seeing the video then looking at the comments I got a bit confused. Thank you

[@theprincessweird]

I think “Desired liquid weight” x 0.9 (varies in certain types of wax in this case 0.9 maybe for soy wax) = “Dry wax weight” (that you need to melt) **But** in order to add fragrance oil and still make the liquid weight stay the same you have to do second calculation which is Eg. if you want 15oz of liquid to pour into the jar the formula to find the dry soy wax weight is 15oz x 0.9 = 13.50oz but to add oil into that and still wanna make it remains 13.50oz the calculation for 10% of oil is 13.50/1.10 = 12.27 (dry wax to be melted) and then total weight which is 13.50-12.27 = 1.23oz (of fragrance oil) 1.10 is for 10% of oil 1.09 is for 9% 1.08 is for 8% I hope this help 🙂

[@user-jw5zc6ft6v]

Thank you 😊

[@Focuson_u18]

Awesome Lesson, I received a lot of information that I’ve been looking for!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🥰🌍Thank You for all that you do!!!

[@mariegarcia8714]

Finally! Simply put. Thank you

[@kalleylehrke3391]

good information but I do not guess the correct levels very well. Sometimes I end up too low or sometimes I end up too high. Therefore, I use the water method filling the water to the very top and multiply by .80 (I've seen some people do 0.77). This is how I calculate the Dollar Tree 3x3 square jar: 14 oz of water x 0.8 = 11.2 oz of wax. x .10 = 1.12 oz of FO + 11.2 oz of wax = 12.32 oz of wax and FO filling my 14 oz jar.

[@gunya0075]

I cannot decide on type of portable burner electric or butane gas, thinking safety electric may be better, suggestions? Cheers Neil from Australia

[@rikyricon84]

Hello Standley, one Question..which number I use as a net weight for calculating my F.O., my results after multiplying by .9 or the weight when I put the water into the container?

[@ewahuffman1745]

Another great video! Thank you bunches good man. Very helpful.

[@sonia_marie12]

So should I disregard your 1st part? And work with this calculations?

[@TattedCountry]

I may be wrong but couldn't you also do the formula of the amount of candles x the amount of oz candles your doing divided by 20. Example doing 2 ( 8 oz candles) = 16 oz ÷ 20 = .8 of a lb which is about 12.8 oz of wax for 2 candles then if want to do 10% fo do 12.8×10% . I'm more asking to make sure this is an ok formula practice .. thank you :)

[@lisagil3178]

Great video!!!!! Can you please do one for soy 415? I’m having some difficulty getting a strong HT. I’m using ECO 10 & 12 wicks.

[@melissapatrick2864]

Loved the video it helped out alot but after seeing the comments I am now confused concerning the formula. Can you confirm that

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

The formula is right, I placed the decimal in the wrong spot in one area. Check out my new updated video for a better explanation. 🙂

[@AgentClarice0910]

this is still a bit confusing too me. I am trying to figure out for a 3OZ fill jar where the water is 85g/2.99oz. Can someone help please?Thanks!

[@justineballantyne6164]

so from what i understand, it will be 85g x .9 = 76.5g solid wax required but that would be if you were solely using wax only. if you are trying to incorporate FO (say 10% FL) - divide 76.5 by 110% (FL +100%) = 69.5. So 76.5 - 69.5 = 7g FO. So you would need 69.5g solid wax & 7g FO to fill the container to the 76.5g

[@tmiller974]

ok...This may be dumb, I working with your calculations, I came out with needing 10.7 ounces of unmelted wax and 1.1 ounces of fragrance oil (10% load) to equal 11.8 ounces to fill your 13.1-ounce example. That seems like a lot of FO for basically 11oz of wax. Am I off somewhere? It's been a long day. lol

[@georgiam4063]

Hi Stanley, I’m new to making candle is it possible to link the first video here... Also how do you come up with the .09 oz for the wax. Just want to make sure the correct conversion done correct so I can price accordingly. Thank you

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Georgia Dezonie I think the correct formula would be .8 Someone else pointed this out down below. This one will still work just as well.

[@szilviagabnai1683]

Would this same method work the same for different units of measurements? I use grams for all my measurements and I am just trying to figure out if I could still use the same method as you showed?

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Szilvia Gabnai yep it would all be the same. 🙂

[@joshuamerrill3959]

Sir this is off topic but I'm making candles with soy 464 I was doing 4lbs of wax and I noticed it took until it reach 200 degrees Fahrenheit to fully melt are these candles ruined now reaching this temp?

[@adriyellejohn]

Hi Jeff. Have you tried using yellow beeswax for scented candles? Would that work too?

[@bryanc1280]

From where did you get the clean white glass that’s in your thumbnail?

[@anitachadee7927]

Can you explain why .9? I remember in the last video you used .8

[@briellejones9550]

I think I need a new scale. My third 8 oz jar mostly comes up short a few ounces when I melt 16 ounces of wax.

[@pcsofourfarm5476]

Omg mines too! So did buying the new scale help?

[@RuizSBLVIChamps]

@@pcsofourfarm5476 any updates?

[@theprincessweird]

So the math at the beginning 15-1.35 = 13.65 was not needed right? Should it end since desired liquid weight x 0.9 = dry wax weight? Do I understand it correctly or I’m still confused 😥

[@itchyblanket5508]

So I'm not sure how to post pictures in the youtube comments but I made 6 candles from 6 old candles jars I had. I bought a 10lb bag of soy 444 and six10ml jars of scent which wasn't enough to make the 6-10% oil to wax ratio. My candles are at around 3%. Anyways your videos were very helpful so thank you. This method above coupled with your other video filled the jars to the exact height I needed. Most of the candles look great but one or two of them have these like chalky white spots on the outside? Do you know where these are coming from?

[@sarah-jaynehullena5059]

This is exactly what I've been looking for! Thank you 😊 Does anyone know if this same math can be applied in grams (or metric)?

[@raymondwalker5072]

Yes, works for grams. I've calculated this same way for years but always used .89 not .9 but would not make much difference. I also tend to round up a little with the calculated weights as it is quite spot on and if you put a little too much in one candle it means you have less for the next because you have only the exact amount of wax - so give yourself a little more to play with - that's what i do anyway. Hope it helps.

[@sarah-jaynehullena5059]

@@raymondwalker5072 ah perfect. I'll have to try and see. I've seen a couple of different calculations for using water but they're all a wee bit off so I'm excited to give this one a go. Thanks!

[@beyoutifullyunique03]

Hi where is the link for part 1? Thanks

[@dillonpena]

Love the jar where did you find it?

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Dillon Pena These are from WoodenwickCo

[@gypsygoddess7138]

Your videos are so helpful, but do you think next time you could talk a little slower and maybe label what the numbers mean? I'm trying to follow along with my own calculations and I'm so confused, I keep having to rewind lol

[@Scentsofdecor]

HEY, Since there was a mistake at the beginning with the equation should it be ?? 15 x .9=13.5 13.5/ 1.10=12.27 12.27 x .10=1.23 12.27+1.23=13.5 ??? (I TOOK OUT the subtraction step)

[@elizabethgaitan7364]

I was wondering the same thing. Good catch.

[@irkatanemaru]

It worked!!! Thanks a lot!!

[@kevinjones340]

Did you make a room specific to candle making

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Kevin Jones No this is a new place I’m in. 😁

[@kevinjones340]

Standley Handcrafted gotcha👍

[@tamarahaskins2774]

Is this another type of candle to make, or is the water method needed to make every candle?

[@brunabertolo7603]

Love love love your videos. Always so very helpful and I’m grateful you do them! However, this video here should totally be redone as the math in the first part is wrong! This makes it even more confusing especially for those who are new to this process.

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

What’s wrong about it?

[@adrianaforerorosales]

Thank you!!!!

[@kellsgreenidge8885]

Makes more sense!

[@asiamiller6833]

So helpful!!!

[@jocegene140]

Thanks

[@anitagrover5935]

Should you be multiplying by .09 or .9?

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Anita Grover .009, I messed up the numbers when I wrote it down. Lol I made a sticky above

[@gypsygoddess7138]

@@StandleyHandcrafted I thought above you said .9. I'm so confused :(

[@lynnjepson8218]

so is the wax point zero 9 or zero point 9? .09 vs 0.9

[@lenagojara3524]

Going to try this method, still trying to simplify my way of doing things 😅

[@raqueldi3028]

But from where you got the .9?

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

That is the density difference between the wax and water. Density = Mass/Volume

[@ToyaEd.]

could you do this in gramms

[@justineballantyne6164]

so can i just confirm pls as the numbers and what you say sometimes dont match. lol its all good - it happens, but i just want to make sure i have this correct: Fill glass with water to the level you want it & weigh the water amount (answer A). (answer A) x .9 gives you the solid wax weight (answer B). If incorporating FO, you need to display the FL as a decimal then add 1.0. eg 10% FL = 1.10, 8% FL = 1.08, 6%Fl = 1.06 So divide (answer B) by the FL as a decimal form (1.0 + FL) to give you the total wax required excl FO (answer C) Then (answer B) minus (answer C) = FO amount required. Therefore as an eg, we will say our water weight is 300g and we are using 10% FL i would do the following: 300g x .9 = 270g (solid wax weight) 270 divide by 1.10 = 245.5g 270-245.5 = 24.5g So i would need 245.5g solid wax and 24.5g FO to fill my 300g jar to the fill line i require

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

No worries, I messed up In the video and tried to pin the correction above. 🙂

[@justineballantyne6164]

@@StandleyHandcrafted nah its all good, no stress, i just want to check that my calcs above are correct. pretty please

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

That looks perfect

[@justineballantyne6164]

@@StandleyHandcrafted YAY thanks, youre amazing. Really appreciate all your help in all the videos you post.

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

@@justineballantyne6164 Thank you so much!

[@janegimpelj3155]

At the beginning where you talk about the wax vs water on the chalk board, you state that wax is .09 but wrote .9 and water is 1. This kind of confused me. Then in the first formula, you used .09 to get the 1.35 oz. I see the formula works for figuring out the amount of wax needed for the 16oz jar and then you continued with the 10% FO (I got this also). But, then you used .9 when calculating how much wax to use for a given oz of water. Why .09 in the first example and then .9 for the last example? Where did the .9 come from if wax is .09 to 1 of water? Do you use .09 when you know the amount of wax (without FO) and use .9 when you know how much water is in the vessel and want to know the amount of wax? Sorry, just a beginner here. So, there are about 2 different steps that you might need to go through to figure things out?

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

I was thinking one and wrote another :)

[@itsashleyavila_]

@@StandleyHandcrafted This is a terrible response to her question

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

ashley Avila I made a typo. What else is there to say?

[@szilviagabnai1683]

@@StandleyHandcrafted so which one is the accurate one? .09 or .9?

[@MarkTravisMusicPage]

I was taught that you multiple by .8

[@bellefamille9884]

Thanks for this but your math is wrong and super confusing 😕. Could you maybe update the video?

[@lynnjepson8218]

AND...you say 13.65 is the total of the wax, then go on to say, the total of the wax and FO...….grrrrrr

[@lovelyflows7460]

12.4oz of wax + 1.25oz of oil = 13.65

[@kieranhooper4227]

At the beginning you say that 16oz was is actually 10fl oz in a measuring cup. Obviously 20fl oz of water is 20oz. So surely the math should be 0.8 not 0.9? If water equals 20 then wax equals 16 is what you said at the beginning, divide that down and if water equals 1 then wax equals 0.8????

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Kieran Hooper Someone else pointes this out and I think it’s .8 I was going off of someone else formula for this.

[@kieranhooper4227]

Standley Handcrafted it’s strange cause you used 0.9 instead of 0.8 in the demo and it seemed to work out pretty good. 0.8 would probably have not given you enough wax lol

[@taylorl7057]

You completely lost me when you got your math wrong...now I'm not sure if I'm supposed to divide by .9 like you say...or .09 like you did the entire video with. It seems like it makes a difference.

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

Watch the newer it has a much better explanation and for this one move the decimal and you’re fine.

[@StandleyHandcrafted]

I also have the new calculator www.westsoundcandlesupply.com/pages/calulators