CALLAWAY APEX CF16 Vs MIZUNO JPX900 FORGED Vs SRIXON Z565

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Rick Shiels Golf

Rick Shiels Golf

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@steveboyle5245
@steveboyle5245 8 жыл бұрын
Best head to head comparison yet. When loft, lie, shaft, grip, and weight are all the same; it really lets you see the variance in clubs. Keep up the great video work! Wedge test (Vokey, Cleveland, Callaway). Do the same thing with 50-52 gap wedges
@3rdgroove
@3rdgroove 8 жыл бұрын
...not really much of variance is it?
@dseo2543
@dseo2543 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, hardly any notable variance (apart from the possible offset on the Srixon). The perceived accuracy of the Callaways might not be apparent in another golfers hands. For me, I don't really see the point in these tests, most clubs in the same bracket from the usual manufacturers are all pretty good and nearly identical. Choosing one over another would only come down to looks/feel/price (or brand loyalty - Mizuno fanboys for example).
@jko8888
@jko8888 8 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best test you've done in my opinion. A very fair comparison of club design, technology, and nothing else.
@legend9018
@legend9018 8 жыл бұрын
Wow great review Rick, my experiences with these irons were a little different though as a higher handicapper (off 12). I had the CF16s for a season and I really wanted to love them as a forged cup face design but I really struggled with my spin numbers with these irons, I could not stop them on the other end and I found that these irons had not only a sweet spot but a hot spot as well where I would get the occasional shot that went 12-15 yards above my average. I tried the Mizunos but found them to launch too low or probably more like I struggled to get them to my desired trajectory. I now have the Z565s in the bag and I couldn't be happier, amazing feel, fantastic spin numbers and super consistent distances. I love this line of videos though, keep up the good work!
@troyknadle839
@troyknadle839 8 жыл бұрын
Man Srixon knows what's up. Not to take away from the other 2 brands but the Srixons make for a really clean, sleek look that really appeals to my eye. I have the 745's from last year and have nothing bad to say about them and will probably have them in the bag for a very long time. I'm glad they didn't change the style with the new models.
@MAXLAND7
@MAXLAND7 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the data showing the face hit. It tells a lot about the club dynamic on off center hit.You are the only one offering this. Great!
@DustlnTheWind
@DustlnTheWind 8 жыл бұрын
Love my Apex CF 16's I bought last year. High, long and straight.
@MSDOGS1976
@MSDOGS1976 5 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a set off of Callaway preowned. Outlet grade which is basically mint. Got the 6-pw with UST Mamiya Recoil ES 760/780 Graphite. Great deal with an extra 20% off totaling $374 with shipping. Can't wait to try them out.
@3rdgroove
@3rdgroove 8 жыл бұрын
8:08 a little bit??? EVERYTHING! If this test showed anything then it's that *same specs deliver same results*. And for some reason (head design?) Rick delivered the Srixon more shut than the Callaway, and the Callaway more shut than the Mizuno. Also Rick started the Srixon most consistently that's why the result was most consistent and hence he liked it the most :-) Interesting demonstration but of course that has no bearing on how you or I would strike and like any of those irons. So go and test for yourself if you are looking for new clubs.
@953steve
@953steve 6 жыл бұрын
The mizuno fitting process will have you purring guys. I've just had my fitting and ordered the jpx900 forged. I considered and researched a lot. It came down to Taylormade 790's, titleist ap2/3 combo. For me the mizuno's have won as the process fills you with confidence that you are indeed finding the best option for your game. Feel and outcome were my top 'wants' but luckily I love how these clubs look too but tbh their performance would have made me buy regardless. Loved the day and know I have my correct set. Good luck to all in your search. PS I'm recently a 10 hcpr from 12 a coule of weeks ago. These will improve my hcp further I'm 100% confident. Cheers
@invisaman75
@invisaman75 8 жыл бұрын
4:27 Rick, most of your shots go left regardless of the club.
@ndog2001
@ndog2001 6 жыл бұрын
By far the coolest and most useful testing scenario I’ve seen. Thank you for being a pioneer in the sport!
@jacobcgustafson
@jacobcgustafson 8 жыл бұрын
I have a set of CF16's and I love them so much. They just feel so soft off the face.
@golfbuddy1969
@golfbuddy1969 8 жыл бұрын
The callaway is the oldest here also, yet could argue that is the best of the three.
@davidlepre7893
@davidlepre7893 8 жыл бұрын
This type of head-to-head test is very helpful and interesting... my favorite type of review. It reminds me that even someone with a very good golf swing has to be aware of how equipment relates to confidence and the rest of the mental game. Thanks much.
@rossgraham5917
@rossgraham5917 8 жыл бұрын
Wrong club for Srixon. Should have been the 765. Feels harder because the 565 has a steel face insert where as the 765 is fully forged.
@dirtyjuansancheez
@dirtyjuansancheez 8 жыл бұрын
From a construction standpoint you are right but in general the 765s are a better comparison to the Apex Pros - much more of a players cavity than a mid-handicap cavity.
@stephenkenny7703
@stephenkenny7703 8 жыл бұрын
Rick can you please do a video hitting all different balls like the prov1,prov1x taylormade tp etc and show us the difference between them?
@RickShielsPGA
@RickShielsPGA 8 жыл бұрын
Nice idea! Coming soon
@sicilylive2203
@sicilylive2203 8 жыл бұрын
Rick Shiels Golf AND THE VICE BALL gotta fit it in there!!!!
@chadsugden9340
@chadsugden9340 8 жыл бұрын
PLEASE! do this review!!!! also pretty please, put the callaway 2016 chrome soft in there on this ball review.... ill be here waiting patiently :)
@derekelliott1026
@derekelliott1026 8 жыл бұрын
Add Snell in the mix as well! Would love to see the "cheap premium" (oxymoron) golf ball against gold standard!
@Lowereast61
@Lowereast61 8 жыл бұрын
I play the Callaway Apex CF16s and by far the best irons i have ever gamed, love them. The lofts are a little strong, but that suits my game. Great video Rick and keep them coming!
@nerd9992
@nerd9992 8 жыл бұрын
Rick you are leading the Golf industry!
@mastacator2739
@mastacator2739 8 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this test with wedges. Perhaps even woods, hybrids, and balls as well some day. Some in depth review of some of the grinds and their uses would be great as well. Love it, keep up the great work as always!
@whogg0521
@whogg0521 8 жыл бұрын
Brother, fantastic job and review. Love the graphical display of the results and how you highlighted it and let it expand up, the zoom in to the groupings...just great overall presentation.
@adamshields1982
@adamshields1982 8 жыл бұрын
So many of those shots are so pure. Looks amazing Rick!! I am getting lessons myself and its made the world of difference!!! I am hitting the ball further then I have ever hit it. 176 yard carry with an 8 iron for a 12 handicapper with RSi2 irons is nothing to complain about. Keep up the great work Rick!!! I always look forward to your videos every day. I cant wait for you and Peter to get over to Australia one day!!! I know ill be coming to see you guys without a doubt when you do
@peterslaney7505
@peterslaney7505 8 жыл бұрын
Possibly the best head to head test EVER great video Rick
@mortenlothe6893
@mortenlothe6893 8 жыл бұрын
are you going to do a better player club vs (mizuno jpx 900 tour, callaway apex pro, srixon z 965) ????
@rac2645
@rac2645 7 жыл бұрын
Rick, finally someone is getting SCIENTIFIC in these "tests", not just opinion based, keep it up
@ramirezcpa
@ramirezcpa 8 жыл бұрын
Great review as always but the Srixon club comparable to the other two is the Z765. The feel, spin characteristics and shot shape would have been more in par is testing with the Z765. BTW in the Golf WRX description of this video they classify all of this clubs as game improvement, only the 565 is. Will you test all the Srixon line?
@keithn1
@keithn1 8 жыл бұрын
one of the best tests you've ever done imo
@christianjuhlin8906
@christianjuhlin8906 8 жыл бұрын
from what i know the callaway cf16 has more offset then the srixon.. i think that the human factor was the reason all the srixon shots did go left. great video btw !
@charliegreen1533
@charliegreen1533 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! I've been torn between the z565's and the jpx's for ages but the srixons for me are just different gravy
@Quincy234
@Quincy234 8 жыл бұрын
Love all these. Keep it up Rick.
@RickShielsPGA
@RickShielsPGA 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@MrGodch1
@MrGodch1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick, confirms my Apex's, but all seem close. Unlike you, I have a tester Mizuno Forged 7 iron, and although I've tried several shafts, I just can't make it go golfing. It's ok, but too marshmallow for me. Thanks again, love the comparison tests !
@jasmirguaybergevin7498
@jasmirguaybergevin7498 8 жыл бұрын
the 765 would've soothed your strikes better being a "better player" iron probably less offset
@jasmirguaybergevin7498
@jasmirguaybergevin7498 8 жыл бұрын
suited *
@cedenson1ify
@cedenson1ify 8 жыл бұрын
another great video Rick. can't wait to see you hit the new Ping I that is coming out in February. Happy New Year from Mississippi!
@TheBearsjunkie
@TheBearsjunkie 7 жыл бұрын
watched Tons of your video and enjoy all of them. You do detail awesome job and this may be one of the best video. I been all over Mizuno and bit obsessed by them but I will give serious thought callaway CF16 especially since I just purchased there UT the one you carry in your bad. Thank you again for all you do.
@stuarthayes4679
@stuarthayes4679 8 жыл бұрын
the z565 are more of a improvement players club, might be why it was more left, with a lower spin to give you the distance and forgiveness. maybe the z765 would of maybe been a slight better comparison. Food for thought.
@joshuagonet3258
@joshuagonet3258 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like the 765 would have been the club to test with those, 565 is the game improvement model.
@canefan17
@canefan17 4 жыл бұрын
Agree
@shanewoolacott8740
@shanewoolacott8740 8 жыл бұрын
Great review Rick, love the look of that Srixon,
@petergutenberger6367
@petergutenberger6367 8 жыл бұрын
Keep up the awesome videos Rick! Really like these new types of videos!
@simonwhite2890
@simonwhite2890 8 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you compare the classic wedges with the type that help the player more. I struggle to hit the wedges that offer no or little weight in the back of the club.
@kenattaway721
@kenattaway721 8 жыл бұрын
like the tests...I really liked the tests you did on the range with Pete as camera man...
@alanbrown8476
@alanbrown8476 8 жыл бұрын
I can't help feel that the Z765 should been in the test instead of the Z565.
@johnuren1217
@johnuren1217 8 жыл бұрын
Alan Brown I agree the 565 is more of a game improver club. It's more In line with the mizuno "hot metal " club.
@scott-wright
@scott-wright 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 3 years into my switch to the Srixon Z565 and bloody love them. Maybe just more suited to mu swing?
@philfye5934
@philfye5934 6 жыл бұрын
undeniable proof. what a great comparison. just awesome comparing apples to apples.
@jacopronk3785
@jacopronk3785 7 жыл бұрын
I take this one for my fitting for new irons Thanks. Keep up !!!
@WishayKillie
@WishayKillie 8 жыл бұрын
Those Srixons are really nice looking clubs
@stinger5112002
@stinger5112002 8 жыл бұрын
Can you PLEASE do a review of the new Srixon Z565, Z765, and Z965 soon? I'm torn between the new Srixon irons and the new Mizuno JPX 900 range. Thanks for all of the great videos and keep up the great work, Rick!
@nigelday001
@nigelday001 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Rick , thanks 😉🏌⛳️🍻
@boxerdog5626
@boxerdog5626 8 жыл бұрын
Any future plans for testing the mizuno jpx 900 fairways? Considering the new mizuno or titleist.
@bluffgubben
@bluffgubben 8 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these tests. Same as the head to hear driver comparison. It would be fantastic if you could hit your "gamer" or have the gamer comparison as well, like dobby testing. Keep up the good work! All the best to you and your family
@caityseeley9088
@caityseeley9088 8 жыл бұрын
565, is the 765 not the mid capper club?
@Firstlast-sp6qz
@Firstlast-sp6qz 8 жыл бұрын
If you're still doing wedges you could use titleist wedges, clevland golf wedges, and something like mizuno, taylormade, or cobra
@randymahony6664
@randymahony6664 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick I've been waiting for this comparison. I'm thinking of getting a new set of irons and don't have the time to try every club out there.
@charlieboylol527
@charlieboylol527 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick , have you tried Epic Forged and would you say they are better in price than PXG, thanks
@randymahony6664
@randymahony6664 7 жыл бұрын
Really like the same specs comparison. Would like to see an AP1 comparison . I'm thinking of getting fitted for the first time any suggestions?
@danielatherton1659
@danielatherton1659 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, I've been playing golf for about a year now. I'm currently using some titleist 822OS irons but I'm struggling to hit and lift the ball with them. Can you recommend a set which are more forgiving? Thanks
@llgolf645
@llgolf645 8 жыл бұрын
Daniel Atherton ping g25 good price good irons nice forgiving really golf have them myself if not g25 look at other ping worth a look
@danielatherton1659
@danielatherton1659 8 жыл бұрын
Louis Lacorne thank you, I'll have a look now
@carnageeseavs
@carnageeseavs 8 жыл бұрын
Think the zed 765 would have been a better comparison for this test.
@tonyrock7165
@tonyrock7165 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! Thanks Rick. Congrats on your resent score too!
@ini1640
@ini1640 8 жыл бұрын
How do you get the clubs?
@3rdgroove
@3rdgroove 8 жыл бұрын
He asks the manufacturers to send him demos to test for his channel. And many of them do it as it is free advertising for their products. In this specific case though WRX bent all three irons into the exact same specs and sent them to Rick.
@elon1996
@elon1996 8 жыл бұрын
Another great video.. The wedge test should be interesting.
@Da.Onus.Burger.618
@Da.Onus.Burger.618 3 жыл бұрын
Pre-beard Rick vids are so fun to watch! 🙌🏾
@drew2nice83
@drew2nice83 8 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I wonder if the differences in offset impacted it all. I have no clue about the specs of these clubs.
@danielscott7978
@danielscott7978 8 жыл бұрын
Rick how do I get more distance, I hit my driver about 220 on a good hit.
@Sparklingwater1231
@Sparklingwater1231 8 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to do a comparison in the cheaper ball segment? Pinnacle Soft, Kirklamd, Snell etc?
@kwamebrowner
@kwamebrowner 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome Test Rick! I wanted to know your take on the z565's. I have the z745s and even though they're forged they don't feel soft. I've been contemplating the Callaway CF16s but don't know if that's the best direction... I'll figure it out and thanks again for your reviews as always!
@SupWill1505
@SupWill1505 5 жыл бұрын
hey Rick, going back into the archives for this one. of the 3 tested here, do you recall which was the most forgiving?
@CarolinaNomad
@CarolinaNomad 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Great comparison. I've been eyeing the same irons as well. But I'm concerned with the back spin. Do these generate less back spin as compared to other clubs with the same loft angle? Ie Jpx forged 8 iron compared to the jpx tour 7 iron. There is a deviation of 1 degree
@4PMBLUESBAND
@4PMBLUESBAND 8 жыл бұрын
Nice WIN for Srixon on ballspeed and distance ...... Rick i guess u didn't have much time to read up on the srixon 565 iron's INSERT face, which allows top ball speeds , and alters sound/feel slightly , material is called SUP10
@lexxb6386
@lexxb6386 8 жыл бұрын
will there be a review of the Srixon Z 765 irons? Really like those and would love to see your review of them. ..
@zxgopher
@zxgopher 8 жыл бұрын
Would like to see this done with AP1 AP2 & MB or similar. Are blades really that bad ?
@wallstreetoneil
@wallstreetoneil 6 жыл бұрын
The Srixon was the only club delivering Dynamic Toe Up - the Callaway and Mizuno were slightly Toe-Down - dropping the Srixon 1 - 2 degree(s) more Toe Down likely would have straightened out the shots
@davidmehigan9725
@davidmehigan9725 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, you should continue this format
@glennsmith7897
@glennsmith7897 8 жыл бұрын
At first glance it looks like you were coming more from the inside with the Srixon? Wouldn't that affect the flight as well with the left shots
@kolt2928
@kolt2928 8 жыл бұрын
RICK Put a KBS C-taper in the wedges an face them against the stock shafts to see the change in spin from them 46 52 60 degree I think i would be a great test to see if the shaft really does matter on a wedge shot CHEERS
@stephenmowforth3055
@stephenmowforth3055 8 жыл бұрын
which irons went the highest could not work it out too much data
@danieljohnson450
@danieljohnson450 8 жыл бұрын
Great comparison test!
@DustyDad63
@DustyDad63 Жыл бұрын
Dove back six years to find a jpx 900 review as I’ve just bought a second hand set… Rick without a beard and no guy makes this a very odd watch. Great content for the time though
@ESikora12
@ESikora12 8 жыл бұрын
Lower dynamic loft and more draw spin will knock off some spin. Side note, if I got my irons back from adjustments with those marks on that back of the heads I would be super upset. If those clubs had been spec'd in my area I would be avoiding that place!
@conwoody5864
@conwoody5864 5 жыл бұрын
Ur swing has Improved so much
@neilclarke3513
@neilclarke3513 8 жыл бұрын
This shows just how close the performance of clubs nowadays is, they are all almost the same, perhaps feel wins it!
@tortelvis1
@tortelvis1 6 жыл бұрын
what is your average swing speed for these 7 iron strikes?
@shaneestill5361
@shaneestill5361 8 жыл бұрын
@rickShiels do you think the new v sole on the srixon had anything to do with the ball flight you were talking about? Just curious about your thoughts on it. Love the channel keep up the good work!
@austinmeehan3522
@austinmeehan3522 8 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the Mizunos!
@davidlee2474
@davidlee2474 8 жыл бұрын
Rick - why not do 12 with each then discard the worst two to account for mis-strikes?
@helenavidal5536
@helenavidal5536 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, love the reviews - when are you going to review the 765's and 965's - the clubs of the hottest player on the planet at the moment, Hideki Matsuyama?
@mpnewson
@mpnewson 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome review Rick. Keep up the good work mate.
@mortenisager6677
@mortenisager6677 8 жыл бұрын
Can you soon make a "whats in the bag" video. It is always nice to hear from a pro
@mortenisager6677
@mortenisager6677 8 жыл бұрын
And maybe show which gloves you use
@JDSFLA
@JDSFLA 5 жыл бұрын
I know that you set up all the clubs exactly the same to create as fair a test as possible, but is may be that the Srizon needs a slight change to the lie angle. If I have a club that is consistently left or right, an adjustment to the lie angle is the first thing I do to straighten it out. The worst is a club that goes both ways.
@P95-z5y
@P95-z5y 8 жыл бұрын
Try get some Kirkland golf balls to test.$15 cheaper than pro vs per dozen
@RickShielsPGA
@RickShielsPGA 8 жыл бұрын
If anyone wants to send me some feel free!
@TheMainMan123
@TheMainMan123 8 жыл бұрын
Rick Shiels Golf have got to say Rick your swing is looking better and better.No doubt Dan has improved your game
@tommyfalcone6023
@tommyfalcone6023 8 жыл бұрын
Rick Shiels Golf are u still interested in the Kirkland signature golf balls?
@matthewleahy12
@matthewleahy12 8 жыл бұрын
They don't sell them in the U.K. yet
@tommyfalcone6023
@tommyfalcone6023 8 жыл бұрын
Matthew i know i live in the US and if Rick wanted any i have a dozen and would gladly send it to him.
@Fraaz44
@Fraaz44 8 жыл бұрын
will you be testing srixon's new line of clubs? Great vid rick.
@jesusnevarez4461
@jesusnevarez4461 8 жыл бұрын
golfoholic87 I second that question, would really like your full review opinion
@keithsunderland9079
@keithsunderland9079 8 жыл бұрын
just bought a new set of Z765, they're pretty good!
@Rikbo77
@Rikbo77 8 жыл бұрын
Me too. Love them!
@slatuszek1
@slatuszek1 8 жыл бұрын
I would also like to see the new line from Srixon tested please.
@gbass598
@gbass598 8 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a review as well. I have the Z565 Driver, F65 3W and H65 3H with the Miyazaki stiff shaft and I really like them all. I'd like to see Rick's thoughts on those woods.
@N_gf109
@N_gf109 8 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video. Definitely should do more similar ones!
@kevinfitzgerald7137
@kevinfitzgerald7137 8 жыл бұрын
Same spec test is the only true test when comparing different irons
@williamwilson1769
@williamwilson1769 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Will you ever do any reviews on Wilson staff products?
@vivitoisright382
@vivitoisright382 8 жыл бұрын
sorry Rick, look at all the replies, you screwed up,should've used the Z 765. You need to redo the test,the Z 565 are for high handicap.
@sehnaz1
@sehnaz1 7 жыл бұрын
Z565 is for mid to lower handicapper. Id say from about 14 down to mid single figure players. Z765 for single figure players.
@ashleywalker3611
@ashleywalker3611 8 жыл бұрын
wedges smash factor and strike location verses distance loss always seem to lose distance with wedges due to striking abit higher then I should would be instresting to test the sm6 on cg location also vs a cleveland rtx3
@lucifuge777
@lucifuge777 8 жыл бұрын
love your reviews rick. thanks
@Try2Tri
@Try2Tri 8 жыл бұрын
Rick, could you for once please notice the standard deviation. The clubs produce the same numbers within the error of the measurement. The only that's real is the bunching of the Srixon to the left. But then again, have a look at the standard deviation of the left/right deviation from target line. There's not much in it. That to me is the whole message of these videos. For me it would be good if you would mention it yourself. Cheers!
@KOSELKE23
@KOSELKE23 8 жыл бұрын
Rick great video, can you do a head to head with one length iron? Sterling and Corba
@keithfinley2939
@keithfinley2939 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick! Bummer you're missing qualifying. Next year.... QFTO The Comeback! It would be great to watch you rebuild your game...
@absolutraj
@absolutraj 8 жыл бұрын
thanks so much for doing this. very helpful.
@Spanish-bx3tl
@Spanish-bx3tl 8 жыл бұрын
Rick could u please do a video about Hip Rotation during the downswing
@sicilylive2203
@sicilylive2203 8 жыл бұрын
Srixon's irons look better and better I swear
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