Cam Phaser Lockout Installation Instructions - Livernois Motorsports New Link below

[@talinegle6182]

literally the only video I could find that was in-depth enough to make me feel comfortable doing it myself.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Thank you!

[@amoncopeland6747]

Man this looks like fun. 2 things: 1. Thought I would be playing with a different type of phaser in 2020 2. This video is calming makes you forget for a min that you are broke and so is your truck. Or else I'd take it to a mechanic.

[@moonstar4722]

I am a Bangladeshi, I like your work very much .... I am learning the work of car engine in Bangladesh, I really want to make a living by working with good and skilled teachers like you.

[@SOPM]

All example DIY videos should be this clear and well simplified as this one ☝️ ( not giving me a lecture about how you got started or your favorite vehicle 🤦🏾‍♂️ get straight 👈to the point. Talk less do more. Those who disagree, you can..

[@timbowalk]

great product I've installed 3 so far they are pricey yet quality always cost and I haven't got any complaints of either of the 3 ever having the same problem again its been 3 years for the first one so like I said great product

[@Pneumamechanical]

No check engine light with these? I've gotta put them in a friends 5.4

[@jluiscontreraz9485]

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[@edgarc8070]

This video is 5 stars good stuff man you did it so professional

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@MaxQscience]

Ive watched your video a dozen times until I fully understood the procedure. I have a 4.6L in my 2009 expidition, its no secret that the phasers get worn out at 100k miles. Question: What is the benifits of phaser lockouts ? rather than installing new phasers ? Thank you again for posting this video, its detailed instructions are perfect for the do it yourself person and I look forward to your reply.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

+Silicon Valley Engineer Replacing the phaser actually doesn't address anything in regards to the failure point in this system. The phasers operate off of oil pressure supplied by the engine. When these engines wear, and age oil pressure naturally drops. Because of this, the phaser no longer has sufficient oil pressure to operate correctly. Now, the oil pressure is plenty to still operate the rest of the engine safely, but not feed the high demand of the phaser. The reason you see people claim that replacing the phasers helped is that you have a brand new part with zero wear on it, so it's operating at maximum efficiency, but since it has to pick up the slack for the rest of the engine it can fail within hours again. This is why our lockout is the only permanent fix for the phaser system.

[@MaxQscience]

+Livernois Motorsports Very interesting discussion, thank you for your reply.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

+Silicon Valley Engineer You're welcome

[@craziemjgmailcom]

Will the lock out fix a bad phaser? Or is the lock out designed to prevent failure of a good phaser only?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

This is designed to work in either situation so long as there is no physical damage to the phaser itself.

[@kquigs100]

I wish every mech was like this guy

[@capnk443]

kquigs100 If flat-rate didn't exist then every mechanic would work this way. Taking time to do the job carefully, resulting in the job being done right the first time. I wish I didn't have to rush through jobs just to make a living. If I was being paid by the hour, I would make sure every damn bolt, nut, and screw were torqued to the proper specification or the proper sequence. I would only get paid 4hrs for this type of job. That's $80.

[@fl3cko91]

Cannon Krebbs hey are you a mechanic i dont mind paying you good money put make sure my vechile repairs are quality do you want to work on my f150?

[@henriquebullcharles5915]

Mostly every 5 out of 10 machanics want to ripped you off Not Doing it Right and saying they Did put the New Part's in. It's just the fk'n truth. They Kno it's a pricy Job . And need lot's of patience . Like I said there are Good Machanics out there. Just need The Luck to be on yourside to find Right one.👍

[@bena9620]

We are considering this for one of our fleet trucks, just trying to find a mechanic that will do it. One mechanic said it is too late (we just started feeling some rough idling this week). This is a better option than engine or phaser replacement and honestly probably worth a try. Thoughts on it being too late or is the mechanic just trying to sell me an engine. Btw if I can get even a year out of this it’s a huge win.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Typically it's only too late IF there is damage to the camshaft and phaser dowel pin area, and that usually takes a long time of ignoring the codes and noise. So if it just started, while it's always safe to inspect, that's highly unlikely.

[@tekjanson]

Very good video. I noticed that you did not remove any of the valve springs. I think the ford manual requires that 2 valve springs be removed to keep the cam from spinning once the phaser is removed. I guess when you put the phaser back on you can spin the cam back to where it should be by aligning to your mark.

[@richardhernandez3900]

Great Video! - very well explained and procedure, thank you. Once again great video

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Thank you for the recognition

[@hmroa3056]

Excellent demonstration. I'm still learning my ABC's on this dreadful creation by Ford, but why and how does a locked cam phaser help?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

A locked phaser completely eliminated the vct system, therefore there's nothing to fail.

[@JSAFIXIT]

This looks quite easy to do! Great tutorial.

[@jimmymoller8640]

It always does. Lol

[@williamriley2528]

It's getting to the cam phasers, the timing chain, the timing chain tensioner & guide, and the oil pump that are the painful part...!

[@itsjoelee]

Very well done video tutorial. Thank you!😊

[@fabianhernandez9338]

Great video very thorough!

[@jonbon438]

Great video and very detailed thank you. Is the cam phaser only on the one side or does this need to be done on both sides of the engine?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Thank you! both sides.

[@Posi12Bolt]

With using the wedge kit, approx how many hours should it take a competent shop to install the lockouts? 2004 F150 5.4L

[@garywalker2575]

Car Guy Brian 9h billed

[@leroijr407]

@@garywalker2575 thats crazy. You got robbed. It in no way takes that long. But I can see shops charging that. Best to do it yourself. May take you 1 hours per side if your being slow and safe.

[@alfredtong3038]

Great video! I’ve heard that I need a custom tune after the phaser lock out. Is that something absolutely needed or can it be skipped.. Thank you!

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

It's 100% required, and we offer the complete, 50-state legal system with tune.

[@ratumanu1]

Very good presentation.The best so far.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@nw8730]

This guy is Awesome Thank you so much for the excellent Video. It had everything I needed to know. Thanks again. RIp Wyane Static

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

We're glad to hear that, thank you!

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

@@LivernoisMotorsports Hi. I was wondering, does installing this delete make the timing chain and system last longer ? Is the engine less sensitive to low oil pressure ? Will engines with deletes last longer with less trouble and why ? Thanks

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

@@Toro_Da_Corsa Typically speaking the timing chain system takes a beating when the phaser system fails as the shock load is being absorbed 100% by the chain and guides/tensioners. so eliminating this issue puts less stress on those items. It is also less sensitive to oil pressure changes as the VCT system requires a substantial amount of volume to work properly. the engines themselves as a whole don't necessarily last any longer, but the oil/timing systems do, reducing the need to replace them. so as much as we would like to tell you that it would be directly responsible for the engine lasting longer, the engine itself, if you constantly changed those failure points, would last a long life. But, since you are having to replace those items less frequently, it helps life for those items.

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

@@LivernoisMotorsports Thanks for the answer. One more question. Since you guys have seen your fair share of Fords... When you lock out a 2004 or newer Triton , does it become as reliable as an old 2 valve Triton generally speaking ? Im looking for a truck and I never had problems with 2 valve Tritons. But the phasers are almost pushing me to buy a Chevy. If the locked out 3 valve is close to as good as a 2 valve, I'll just buy a good used Ford and send it to the shop to get locked out right away.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

@@Toro_Da_Corsa We feel it is, the only issue left is spark plugs on the pre 08 engines, but just changing them every so often is a big part of if you will have issues. But to be fair, 2v engines had their own spark plug issues too.

[@johnbrumfield6212]

Awesome vid! Excellent instructions and proceedures. Now I'm sorry about my ignorance. I think I may need to do this by can you explain in what case would I implement doing this?? Thanks in advance!!!

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

This is a great solution for any Ford 3V modular engine that has started to have a phaser knock, or cam/crank correlation codes, or cam over advance/over retarded codes.

[@Анатолий-ъ4в2ч]

Где купить этот продукт?С уважением А

[@brianbotterill1564]

I did the cam phaser lockout on my 5.4 L three valve, and had a question about it. Once the lock outs are in, is there any reason why the spring and plate on the back of the phaser still need to be there? i’m not a motor engineer, but I do have a solid engineering background it seems like the outer plate is mostly there to provide centrifugal force that shifts the internals. Once the phaser is locked, does it need to spring at all?

[@anthonyaguilar6978]

What are the flaws of a lockout? Mines in the shop rn for that

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

The spring is not needed, no. But, we put it back on to prevent potential confusion, or loose pieces in the engine if forgotten/lost.

[@jacobsolomon6565]

got my phaser out in the vise. i have the one long bolt style of phaser 04 150. spun my rear cover out of the way on the phaser. my aluminum lock out blocks all go in to easy. i dont have to push the block in all 5 positions. two positions are way loose i wont install in two of them for sure. other 3 dont need force to install. just pick the best one?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Correct, the tightest fit is the optimal position for these. They will not always need pressure to install.

[@jacobsolomon6565]

Livernois Motorsports ya it's such little play. I figured oil will take up the slack

[@snapon666]

will this affect the smog test ? ....well made vid thanks

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Our kit is 50-state legal with our mycalibrator tuner

[@JerrytheElectrician]

Perfect explanation!

[@mikebrennan4534]

do you have to set the engine timing to a exact position to take the load off the cam before removing the chain? i would be concerned that the cam would want to move due to the valve springs to an unloaded position.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Mike Brennan Mike,If you would like, we could email you a set of directions so you can gauge the difficulty level yourself. Please email is at [e-mail]

[@chadpreston5549]

when u pull phaser, wont cam move? or equalize

[@manueltovar4821]

Now can you install the lock outs to brand new phasers? Or do you have to wait till they get worn out and start knocking before you install the lock outs?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

You can definitely install them in brand new phasers, and we sell them preinstalled that way.

[@manueltovar4821]

@@LivernoisMotorsports so aee yhey going to have a longer life span ? will they eventually start knocking with the lockouts in ghe phaser of do 5he lockouts a permanent fix to the ticking?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

@@manueltovar4821 This is a permanent fix for the phasers, if it starts knocking it will definitely be from a different source.

[@user-es3nx4ic6f]

Very good instructional vid!!

[@Thundarr995]

For what reason would you want to lock the cam phasers out? I know they are a weak point on this engine. Would doing this cause a loss in power and efficiency? Or would it not make much difference? A friend of mine has a 03 F150 with this engine. She's replaced the chains & the phasers in her truck. That truck doesn't get great mileage to begin with and it runs great. Hers is 4wd. Gets about 16 mpg. Probably 19 - 20 freeway.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

The reason it to permanently eliminate the possibility of phaser failed which could cause severe engine damage. Most people report better power and economy over failed phasers.

[@alabadilah]

When do you need and why to lockout the phasers? And what are the payoffs for replacing it vs locking it out?

[@jonthompson8807]

im not super sure but i have seen a lot of articles/forum posts/ videos about this specific issue with ford engines. i think that piece doesnt perform as designed and causes the chain its affixed to to either under perform or over perform against the engines performance. which wares the part out over time.

[@MrEazy169]

awesome video thanks guys ! quick question do you guys do the install kit as well i have almost 190k and starting to hear the chattering whats it gonna run me to fix it before i have to replace the motor ?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Are you asking if we install this kit here at our facility?

[@adamr3028]

Make videos assembling the whole engine together using this easy step by step method videos.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

It's definitely on our list to do

[@CFlo93]

Is it necessary or do you also recommend to replace the lash adjusters and roller followers that are connected to them when you do this?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

While not a bad idea to inspect them, replacing them is rarely necessary.

[@CFlo93]

@@LivernoisMotorsports Well I bought this truck to strictly tow a 20ft boat and engine has 228k, its a 2006 5.4 3 valve, no check engine light, has been extremely well taken care of from the look of the exterior / interior and was a 1 owner but the widow had no paperwork on literally ANYTHING with the truck which is why I ask lol and everyone in these comments and small bit of research said theirs have gone bad at as early as 75-100k miles. I just purchased it a few months ago and did not at all have any idea of this ticking noise culprit / cam phaser stuff. I didn't hear it when I test drove the truck because it has a loudish muffler/exhaust system and probably did not reach an operating temperature high enough to really hear anything but now since I've driven the truck for a while whenever I get next to a building and am driving through a neighborhood or sit with the windows down in a quite manner with no music or anything and at low rpm around 1500-2000 I do notice this weird ticking noise bouncing off of the surfaces / buildings around the truck from outside and am curious if it is this phaser issue everyone is talking about. I'm considering just removing the heads from the truck and inspecting everything before I purchase your kit. I know that whole speel sounds open ended but I would appreciate any input if you have any in regards to the diagnosis & at minimum I would like to thank you for at least replying.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

@@CFlo93 Without hearing the noise it could be anything. These are also known for cracking exhaust manifolds

[@joebenny]

so what is the benefit to locking the phaser as opposed to just replacing the phaser with a new one?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

This permanently fixes it, as replacing the phaser doesn't address the cause of the problem. Loss of oil pressure is the main reason these lose control of the vct system.

[@joebenny]

@@LivernoisMotorsports but it doesn’t actually “fix” anything. The problem is that the 5.4 3v has notoriously low oil pressure over time and you’ve done nothing to fix the ACTUAL problem when you could’ve easily changed the oil pump while you had access to it doing this job. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

@@joebenny The oil pump itself isn't typically the loss of oil pressure. This is natural bearing wear and tolerance increases over time. Since the oiling system has beyond enough volume and pressure to safely operate all aspects of the engine outside of the vct system, this method allows for customers to potentially add hundreds of thousands of miles of added use to their engine. Meanwhile, our #1 source for sales is from shops, dealers, engine builders, and customers that have wasted thousands of dollars replacing the entirety of the timing drive and oiling system, to have it fail again in as little as a few days.

[@Mr-Yea]

This was GREAT!!! It just made me realize I shouldn't do this myself because I work too fast and I will miss a step....smh

[@porschetech72901]

great video .... wouldnt you reduce risk of cam moving upon phaser removal by removing several specific rocker arms? i think i also mark cam to head

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Yes, and no. while it further prevents one set of issues, it creates different ones. so we elect to keep them in place

[@technologyonthebeach7949]

So I got to thinking on this whole cam phaser issue on the 5.4L . So wouldn't just getting a new torque bolt fix the issue for another 100k? I know the lick out is a more permanent fix but it seems like the bolt getting out of torque because of the design flaw is biggest prob and may stay good after replacement for 100plus miles. I'd be fine with that for a $10 part.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Technology on the Beach No, the phasers lose control due to reduced oil pressure that naturally happens as the engine ages and wears. The phaser itself, along with the timing drive, and fasteners have nothing, or at least very little to do with this phenomenon. That's why replacing the entire drive system with new components maybe lasts for 1-15k miles before happening again.

[@locknload9143]

QUESTION...Do you recommend putting lockouts in brand new phasers? I'm waiting on my new parts from the U.S. to come in. My Ford phaser was out 90° causing a really bad idel then a crank no start. Thanks 🇨🇦 F150 5.4 L 3V 2006

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Yes we do, that is the safest way to address these, by ensuring there is no damage to the old ones.

[@JohnTuisl]

I don’t know how fast she answer his question but doing the timing. Everything is lined up properly getting to put the chains on got one side on and the other side just putting it on and in the face are moved so what does that mean? How do I fix it or just let it move cause they yourself adjusting just continuing on with my timing

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

We're not 100% certain what you're asking, but after the installation of the lockouts themselves, it times exactly like factory.

[@302hobronco]

Is this the same procedure for the phaser limiters?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Yes it is

[@302hobronco]

@@LivernoisMotorsports cool. Now I just need you guys to send me the limiters I ordered back in February.....

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

@@302hobronco All back orders shipped earlier this week, so these should already be on their way to you.

[@Doomsday971]

So question, I read that locking out the phaser will lock it in the full advanced position. Don't we have a kit that will set the cam at zero degrees so there's no issues?

[@miguelitosanchez-mm1vy]

what is the purpose of the lockout

[@ratcamaro]

+miguelito0725 sanchez by locking out the variable valve timing you can run a bigger cam and avoid piston to valve problems.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

+ratcamaro Very true. That's how these started their life back in 2005 when the mustang first used the 3v engine design. We determined before anyone else how to address this and why its necessary. Our own 2005 mustang that graced the front page of motor trend magazine featured our lockouts even.

[@ajthib]

Livernois Motorsports & Engineering Do you need to reprogram the PCM to avoid any codes popping up now that the phasers don’t move?

[@1BlackopsGuru]

Search Results Featured snippet from the web Designed to be an affordable alternative to expensive engine repairs, the cam phaser lockout kit fits Ford Triton V8 engines with 3-valves produced between 2004 and 2014. ... "Lock" the cam phasers into one position, ending the rattling problem and preventing future damage.

[@TheOriginalUberGoober]

ajthib yes you do need to have a custom tune.

[@MrJaimesJ]

Just bought a f250 witht 5.4 3V. This might be a dumb question but why would you want to install a lockout to the phaser?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Since, eventually, all 3v engines eventually have the phaser system fail, the lockout prevents or fixes this failure. Preventing the associated knocking sound, poor idle quality, reduced performance, and potential engine damage that comes along with phaser issues.

[@MrJaimesJ]

@@LivernoisMotorsports thanks, I'm assuming you would do this to both phasers?

[@Nobody-ld7mk]

Can you re-use the wedge for a wheel chock on a grocery cart?

[@jeffbarrett6714]

No they are wedge to yield. One time use only.

[@derekbishop4945]

Howdy Livernois Motorsports, regarding this install, why does the spring placement matter if the adjustable portion of the cam is locked in place with your product. could one simply remove the spring or is it somehow needed?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Derek Bishop It's technically not needed, but we prefer to keep things as close to OEM process as possible.

[@keithsellers7166]

If you have an engine analyzer can you do the tune up procedure after installing the cam phaser lock out using the analyzer?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

If you're talking a scan tool, no you cannot. Our complete kit comes with the necessary tuner and calibration.

[@eladionunez2032]

Wow what a great clean video. Thanks

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

You're welcome

[@ivanmanzo9207]

Do u have to do anything to the ECU after phaser lockouts? Like a tuner or something?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Yes, we sell the complete, 50-state legal solution.

[@ivanmanzo9207]

@@LivernoisMotorsports ok. Where can I get a complete kit? I'm about to do a few of these

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

@@ivanmanzo9207 www.livernoismotorsports.com/cam-phaser-dod-vvt-repair

[@codyjiron5022]

What's the tuner for in the kit you are selling? Did not mention anything about it in the video.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Cody Jiron It's our MyCalibrator tuner.

[@gaston50952]

Do you use any special tool to hold the camshaft to tighten the phaser bolt? Thanks an very good idea of using this lock out system.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

+gaston50952 No special tools needed, we typically just use another wrench or ratchet to hold the balancer bolt, to prevent the engine from rotating while torquing the bolt down for the cam phaser.

[@CARRJ142]

@@LivernoisMotorsports You should have mentioned that.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

@@CARRJ142 We did in this comment, and it's been here for 5+ years. This is just a more basic item and we wanted to cover the items most people would be struggling with.

[@nickraber8094]

Besides the obvious of noise reduction and reliability, what are the effects of doing this lockout? I would assume less power?

[@DoctorRickSanchez]

Actually you would get more performance out of it. That's why they recommend running a tune.

[@James-eo3gg]

Why did the cam shaft have to be locked into place? Other videos ive seen said the cam shaft will move when phaser is moved how do you get it to where it wont?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

At this position the camshaft naturally stays located.

[@truckerrod]

I just purchased a 2007 f150 with 109k miles for 1500 because of a engine knock/rattle when warm at idle. I will definitely be getting the lockout. Is there a specific brand kit to purchase for reliability and having all the proper parts for install? Like gaskets and bolts?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Our Cam Phaser Noise Repair Kit comes with all the necessary components, and is patented and 50--state legal www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP823113

[@landrykilpatrick949]

Doing it this way do you have to remove roller followers? What are the steps for the tune?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

You do not. www.livernoismotorsports.com/images/3_Valve_Cam_Phaser_Lockouts.pdf

[@brandonross9711]

Will this lockout or limiter work on the new designed phaser because internally there slightly different shape??

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

We offer Ford and Dorman style phasers lockouts, and they work on all variations of these from 04 to current.

[@brandonross9711]

@@LivernoisMotorsports just lockouts no limiters???

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

@@brandonross9711 We do offer limiters as well, but they do not fix the knocking. They are for larger aftermarket cams. We only make them for OEM phasers.

[@paulsosa1872]

Isn't the R & L arrows supposed to point in between the key links not on it?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Only if timing them from scratch. After that they only line up every 300 or so revolutions.

[@MrMustangMan]

Why are these phasers ticking and what part on them is actually making this noise.???

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

+MrMus TangMan They are ticking because they have lost control of motion due to a reduction in oil pressure. The noise is emanating from the 5 vanes quite literally smacking the built in stops in the phaser since the motion is completely uncontrollable

[@goodgollyjosh]

How did you guys keep the cam from spinning when you torqued the cam phaser bolt?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

With the wedge tool installed, it kept the engine from rotating.

[@goodgollyjosh]

@@LivernoisMotorsports Thanks, that makes sense. I currently have a 93 tune on my 3v. How much power am I going to loose by locking out the phasers and uploading the special tune?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

@@goodgollyjosh to be honest, vs a failed phaser, these usually improve performance, but the loss in power vs a functioning phaser is less than 4hp, or basically the same as the tolerance in dyno runs from one to another.

[@AWoodworkersLife]

Customer of mine has an ‘08 F-150: If a 5.4 3V is already idling rough and throwing codes, are the existing cam phasers going to have to be replaced before installing this lockout kit, or can I just use the phasers that are acting up since they will no longer be able to rotate internally?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

We always recommend inspecting them for damage, especially around the cam dowel pin area. if they are undamaged, there is no need to replace them.

[@AWoodworkersLife]

@@LivernoisMotorsports Excellent, thank you for the fast reply!

[@ACEstimate]

Adding the block to the phaser must create an out of balance condition. What are your thoughts on that?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

These are actually imbalanced in stock form, and their location helps improve this. However, you're talking about true rotating centrifugal mass, versus reciprocating. So the small weight difference, small diameter, and relatively low speeds make it all a non-issue anyway.

[@JustinRobertson-z3w]

Is there a part number for that lock out kit???

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

as stated in the description here is the link: www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP823108/2004-2015-ford-4-6l-5-4l-3-valve-cam-phaser-lockout-pair

[@frostygoob1508]

I have a 2006 Mustang GT as a code of peas 0012 I changed the cams to comp cams and now that code won't go away.. I've tried a number of things including camshaft phase or lockouts that code still comes up I'm questioning maybe my brand new chain tension or or possibly the oil pump itself not enough pressure?? Timing chain Fraser's guides are all supposed to be new?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Unfortunately there is far too much going on to diagnose by description. It could be calibration related, spring pressure related, actual cam timing related, damaged sensor, etc.

[@Nowayjose-vd1wm]

WOW great video, makes me think I could do this myself.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Thank you!

[@starlord872]

What is the purpose of this lock out procedure and is it a potential issue for the engine?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

This is to correct the issue with phaser knock, and prevents potentially catastrophic engine damage.

[@victor.flores8849]

How do you take care of trouble codes of inoperative Variable timing after locking the phaser? Is there a tuner?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

this package comes with our MyCalibrator tuner which makes the appropriate adjustments to operate with locked out VCT

[@raptor50trex]

So If I was to get the ford racing hot rod cam would I need to lockout the cam to keep good clearances .

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

The hotrod cams clear with no problems. The lockouts would not be needed just because you installed these cams.

[@Steve-xg1ph]

I'm experiencing a loud buzz and slight power loss and when we ran a scanner tool over the truck it pointed us toward the right cam phaser. Is this what is most likely causing the issue? We can hear the chain knocking slightly on the right side but just wanted to be sure. Is this What sensors should l replace while doing this? I know the tuner deletes the two on the valve cover but are there anymore? Will I experience better fuel economy with this kit?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Steve Moon II This kit definitely helps out all of the issues related to a failed cam phaser. Whether power, fuel economy, or noise related. It does not delete any of the sensors though, nor does it need replacing of any.

[@ajthib]

Well I would have purchased this kit before my 3 valve out of my ‘04 F150 bit the dust because of these phasers. Can I replace it with a 2 valve engine instead?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

ajthib Unfortunately not easily. Almost everything from computer, to harness, as well as intake and exhaust are all different.

[@davidolivas3428]

sorry im new at this ,dont know if i need to get a special tool to have cams stay in one place or can i just take phaser out the same way you did on your video?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

+david olivas If you follow our guide, there is no other special requirements or tools needed.

[@davidolivas3428]

thank you.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

+david olivas No problem :)

[@paulomedina7299]

Do you need to make sure the cams are at 11 oclok or it doesnt matter what position the cams are facing?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

you need to get them into their properly timed position as the video demonstrates, the exact position will vary based on the version of phasers and chains you have.

[@blabarbra]

Is this lockout successful in the way of reliability? I'm thinking of doing mine as I need some work done regardless

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

it dramatically improves reliability on these, absolutely.

[@bobbeaman807]

Great video, keep up the good work.

[@cougargold]

I have to drive my truck from Sacramento to Portland for a move on Tuesday and my cam phasers have started acting up throwing a P0021 and P0011 code. I’ve changed the VVT solenoids. Will driving it kill the engine or is the noise more of an annoyance? Just hate to drop 3,000 for a last minute fix at a local shop.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

courgargold This kit shouldn't cost anything near 3000 installed. The kit itself is $699 as of writing this, and installs in 6-8 hours.

[@cougargold]

Yeah, they want to do timing and tensioners too. The chain is tight and doesn’t have any lash. I might just get the parts and do it myself tomorrow.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

courgargold It is a fairly straightforward install, many people install themselves.

[@bob-bf1sz]

Would this affect smog check here in california?

[@bob-bf1sz]

as in would it cause me to fail

[@johnb4183]

Does this basically eliminate the action of the phaser ???? Thanks

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

indeed it does

[@johnb4183]

@@LivernoisMotorsports How does it effect driveability / power etc.. Is there a gear that can be installed and eliminate the phaser completely ? Thanks

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

John B there is no need to do that as once you lock it out, that's exactly what it becomes. making a whole gear would just add cost to a system that works phenomenally with our lockouts. Almost everyone reports improvements in drivability with it and often improvements in responsiveness and power vs a failed system.

[@bwgarage24]

Any videos of an install of the limiter set you sell?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

it would be near identical, save for the limiter being a multi-piece design, the same principles apply.

[@bwgarage24]

@@LivernoisMotorsports Some videos when replacing the timing components recommend clamping the cam in place (which seems like a bad idea) but you all didn't use anything like this. What keeps the cams from turning in this procedure that you all did vs the rest out there?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

@@bwgarage24 we got it to the natural resting position prior to disassembly, but usually you can lock it in place with a wrench on the flats of the camshaft.

[@robinleahy2446]

Do you also stock the timing chain tensioners or recommend a certain brand, and what oil pump do you recommend ? Also do you recommend a new timing chain? vehicle has 170,000

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

we always use brand new production Ford components if we ever replace any of these. At higher mileage, replacing items like timing guides, oil pump, tensioners, and chains are always a good idea.

[@marcusperry2942]

I have that noise. Is it necessary to change the phasers or just put the lockouts in the old phasers. Car has 209,000 miles but is still running fine,just that sound

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Marcus Perry You can install the lockouts in the old phaser so long as there is no mechanical damage to them

[@deshannan6298]

After fitting camshaft phaser lock out does the ECM have to be reprogrammed

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Des Hannan indeed it does, and our kit comes with all of the necessary parts, and our CARB EO tuner

[@jwraggs3819]

Do you just do the one side or both??

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Both

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Jeannette, do you mean you have two trucks? Or are you asking if you need to install this in both phasers? If two trucks are what you are referring to, then you need 2 complete kits. If you are asking about if you need to install the lockouts into both phasers of one truck, the answer is yes.

[@Rperformancerd]

You can do it to engine 3.6 Traverse ?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Unfortunately we do not offer it for the GM 3.6

[@EdgarMarin-c7w]

Hola buenos días saludos desde Venezuela 🇻🇪 eso se coloca por qué tiene fuga el árbol de levas ?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

If you're asking as to what causes the oil pressure yo be reduced? Just wear and age typically are the causes

[@uuulaalaa]

He is asking if this Is used when the camshaft is bad

[@uuulaalaa]

Esto se usa para eliminar el sistema de engranes de la cadena de tiempo que es lo que sale mal en estos motores supuesta mentioned esto tiene que aser la maquina más confiable

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

No, if the camshaft itself is damaged, it would still need replacement.

[@leonuug]

Is this to prevent your cam from going bad or can you lockout a phaser that has already gone bad instead of buying a new one?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

so long as there is no permanent damage to the phaser or cam, yes it would

[@georgetinwick3450]

How you we keep the cam from moving in this install tks

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

This procedure has the camshaft in a natural spot where it should not rotate

[@georgetinwick3450]

@@LivernoisMotorsports oh ok tks

[@jacobortega8910]

I own a 2010 f-150 with a 4.6 3v engine. Could I run a new cam after installing this? the specific cam will be the Brenspeed Detroit Rocker. Also I see you have the option for the performance tune. is it worth the added cost in your opinion seeing you can no longer use a modified tune.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

We do have a solution for performance camshafts, but it would need to be tuned at our facility.

[@adamfreeman1347]

What was y point of placing the spring back behind the bolt? The phaser is locked the spring will not be used again for it's intended purpose.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

for being thorough, while the spring isn't needed anymore, having it there is technically less modification than removing it. so we chose the least disruptive path.

[@BrianOsley-lj8ed]

Do you have to do both cam phasers? Or just one side? 😂

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Both sides would be needed

[@BrianOsley-lj8ed]

@LivernoisMotorsports thanks

[@Rperformancerd]

I can block the one of a 3.6 traverse engine I'm tired with my cam phasers

[@castillovn]

Just open the phaser put inside the lockout chunkier and install again in engine? thats all i have to do? no problems so far?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

it's that simple, well along with the other steps shown including tuning it, replacing the phaser bolt, and making certain the engine is timed right

[@MARK5Y9M]

If I already have a busted phaser that is making noise, will I need to buy a new phaser and this lock to fix my truck?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Typically no, you will need to inspect it to ensure there is no damage to the portion that attaches to the camshaft, but we designed this system to both prevent, and repair a phaser failure.

[@lop8828]

Locking out the variable would send a trip code to the ecm correct?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Without our tuning that's included in the kit? Yes

[@RenaissancePeopleNYC]

When removing phaser from camshaft do any valve rollers need to be removed to releive tension on the camshaft?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

AL P Al, our kit allows you to keep the camshaft in place during install. There is no need to remove the followers during install.

[@henftw]

Can the handheld tuner be used to tune other things or does it only work for the VCT system?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

We have other tuners available but the included device is only for the lockouts.

[@michaelandrade1213]

Only one side necessary?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

no, both sides are, but the process is identical, so no need to make the video twice as long.

[@joshuaknapp5421]

Do I need a tune after this?

[@mikeluchia6555]

I'm a bit confused. Will this work to repair Cam phasers that are already knocking/ticking or is this fix just for new ones to keep them from going bad?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

+Mike Luchia Well, really both! So long as there is no damage to the phaser it can be used in the existing pieces, and if you are putting in new ones, they could be used to prevent future issues as well.

[@mikeluchia6555]

+Livernois Motorsports So other than opening the valve covers to check for damage is there any other way to tell? If not I might as well replace the Phasers while I have the valve covers off, which in the end still costs the same amount to replace the Phasers.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

+Mike Luchia Unfortunately not.

[@boosted2.4_sky]

+Mike Luchia any new parts you put on will fail...use the lockouts. and never worry about it again...

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

+Craig Cundiff This is pure truth

[@drewstang65]

Hi, wouldn't the camshaft move when the gear is removed?

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Not if done as shown in the video, they will stay in place as they are in their natural resting position.

[@drewstang65]

@@LivernoisMotorsports got it! Thanks

[@arthurrodesiler3109]

How much does it cost to tune the computer to work with this fix or can you buy a tool without downloading the tune from Ford. You did not mention this as some other videos say you must redo the computer.

[@LivernoisMotorsports]

Arthur Rodesiler our complete kit with lockouts, phaser bolts, wedge tool, and tuner with CARB EO tunes is currently $699.99