Camshaft Stages Explained.

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@machead57 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Took my 2010 Challenger R/T to the local speed shop. I had the HEMI tick. After diagnostics we learned that it dropped the lifter on #6. So,.... we talked it over and went with Texas Speed Stage 3 cam kit (223/232 .582/.582). Comes with springs, Comp Cam phaser lock kit lifters & pushrods. Before starting the work we decided to drop the TSP lifters for OEM Hellcat lifters, and also got the Hellcat oil pump. A TSP MDS delete kit. BBK long tube headers and a CircleD 3200-3400 stall torque converter. It's going on the dyno & tune Wednesday. Thanks

@loganwalls7325 Жыл бұрын

How much hp did that set up have when you took it to the dyno?

@machead57 Жыл бұрын

@@loganwalls7325 They ran 3 passes while tuning and came out with 465hp at the crank, 404hp at the wheels.

@nickbaur6952 Жыл бұрын

Really good wheel loss only 60whp👌👌

@sbaldwin1119 Жыл бұрын

Had the same problem with my ‘13 ram, it also threw a cam bearing. Got that fixed and ended up Running the stage 2 TSP kit, cat lifters, melling high velocity pump,with the MDS delete and it’s absolutely phenomenal!!

@machead57 Жыл бұрын

@@sbaldwin1119 Whole different car now 🤣

@SurprisedSynth88 8 күн бұрын

Wish I never would've started focusing on that ring of hair around your mouf. Lol immediately stopped learning once I did. But I was able to get everything I needed before that happened. Great video!

@ronnieb5435 2 ай бұрын

Great video. Good explanation of different camshaft stages 👌🏼. I am building a 2014 Jeep SRT. Going with a Stage 2 Texas Speed cam and all the fixins. Dusterhoff tuning 👍🏼

@ronbo422 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining the stages. I've always had the best luck when I've had my cams custom-ground by Comp. Any mfg will work, actually. I don't like how the "prepackaged stages" don't have tight LSA's of

@1320_ikimasho Ай бұрын

The Tomahawk 2.0 was the only "stage 3" I could find that has a relatively tight LSA at 111.

@dailydoseofrice1436 2 ай бұрын

Man, thank you for this video really open my eyes on this stuff!

@benjamingutierrez4260 2 ай бұрын

My mechanic said he gave me a stage 2.5 it was after I got into a flood it sounds amazing this made me really appreciate his work alot of the things he did he didn't charge extra for the car is very exciting to drive but still driveable

@Hu1ud 2 ай бұрын

GPI'S SS1 is laughing at the "not much more aggressive"

@MattDynamite Ай бұрын

Got a 236/25x .636 .636 114 on a 416 LS3 built with a procharger. Drive it to work every day and behaves great on the street damn near stock. Then when I need top end power or torque it’s all there. BTR 400+ cam works! 750 HP 680 TQ

@gruiz2818 Жыл бұрын

Thank u for the info. I’m LS swapping my 67 chevelle from a 396 to a LQ4 6.0 engine. Was up in the air as far as either a stage 2 or stage 3 cam, but after this video, I might just go with a stage 2. Keep up the good work amigo🤙🏽

@Garage_Beers 5 ай бұрын

Super clear. Helped a ton. Thanks!!

@jimroths1893 3 ай бұрын

Great video. Very informative.

@JethroRose 10 ай бұрын

nice video. definitely stage 3 is about as far as i'd go for the street. I daily a 6L LS with 235/243 113 (through a t-56 -it's in a commodore ute) and its nuts. Its pretty much what i wanted - but has cnc ported heads, higher compression, etc. things escalated as i had a lifter failure and needed full rebuild - so i was already in the hole for big dollars and had always wanted an angry cammed v8. idle has quite a lope and is set for 900 rpm. in addition to springs, pushrods, etc. I also had to change from 1 3/4" tri-Y headers to 1 7/8th (ceramic coated to reduce engine bay head) 4-1 for effective scavenging, the smaller primaries were choking it. did the trunion upgrade as the cam is aimed at high rpm. As stated, once you get into stage 3 things escalate quickly in terms of expense! already had a mantic clutch in it which seems to be holding up so far. economy is pretty crap, about 20-30% worse easily (without even standing on it that much) - but that's not what you drive a v8 for right? ended up with 482 horsepower at the tyres. stock LS3 intake. thinking something like an Edelbrock dual throttle body might get me over 500? i guess what i'm saying is that "stage 3" is great - but only if that's what you actually want, great as a weekend street car - but if you're not already doing heads, higher compression, etc. its probably beyond what you'd want to do as a simple swap. i suspect without the higher comp and ported heads it would lose down low, but with those things its still quite tractable. i was very surprised at how tractable it is above 1500 rpm (below 1500 its useless). likely would never work with a stock converter auto tho... but i have a manual so...

@angelr4429 Жыл бұрын

Love it. Perfect explanation for even someone like me that wants to start a build with my current 6.4 Charger. My issue right now is that I’m planning on building up my Charger, but I’m 1000% invested on making it bullet proof and won’t grenade the engine. I really don’t care about big HP numbers, but if I can get around hellcat numbers and be reliable engine for the next 10 years ( I will daily drive it, but like you I have a ram to drive) that would make me happy. I guess to start, what can I do to start with the bottom half of the 6.4 engine. Then when the money trickles in, I can start with a small boost (don’t know if I’m going whipple, or procharger), headers, , rear end, then trans update. Right now I’m thinking Just forge internals (pistons, cam, pushrods, valves)? Let me know if I’m missing anything. Like I said, I’m more interested in reliability, than power. It needs to last, so I would sacrifice power for longevity.

@bmasontv Жыл бұрын

Forged internals are great, but just remember that the original equipment pieces have gone 250000 miles in some cars.Forged internals are great, but just remember that the original equipment pieces have gone 350,000 miles in some cars and trucks. Buying high quality parts is a good idea, provided that you are keeping up with maintenance. Forge pistons and rods will certainly help once you get into a boosted application. Keep in mind though, you can run into the limits of the transmission before you run into limits of the stock components on low boost.

@angelr4429 Жыл бұрын

@@bmasontv you are exactly right. That’s why I want to keep things calm. For example. I want to plan on forged internals, tune it with low boost to 500whp ( that puts me at guessing 600hp), then in a couple years upgrade the trans then increase the boost? In your eyes, the right way to go?

@bmasontv Жыл бұрын

@@angelr4429 Sounds like a good plan to me.

@fbird90nw 3 ай бұрын

I went with a Stage 4 GPI NFC on a LS3, with supporting mods. People that have issues with bigger cams i question their driving abilities. I have a 6spd 1LE and with a TSP Stage 3 was beyond easy and took a day to learn. Not hard at all to drive and adapt, some bucking but nothing horrible lol

@craigbrown603 Ай бұрын

Great info mate thanks

@RexxCollects Ай бұрын

Always helpful!!! Thank you!!!

@Slowwahhjeep Жыл бұрын

Jeeeez u make me feel horrible 🤦🏾‍♂️ I went with a Demon block with a custom stage 4 boost cam

@AndrewMitchell001 Жыл бұрын

I run a 229/235 112 Crow Cam in my LS1 its a lumpy street performance grind stock heads stock ls6 intake and a tight 3200 convertor runs great drives very nice except I keep blowing up my stage 2 4L60E built for 500HP, we dont go by stages in Australia its crap way of selecting a cam.

@benmoen Жыл бұрын

I feel like you're Jon Anik in a different timeline

@punchline3nt Жыл бұрын

I just got a 05 magnum R/T. Mannnn that engine is tired!!! I cleaned it up with a bunch of seafoam and changed the fluids. Im about ready to freshen it up with a stage 2 cam and torque converter. I may even go getrag. However, gonna be a lot of highway driving this summer.

@antoniohuertas8909 Жыл бұрын

I have a 2000 dodge Dakota R/T 5.9. Trying to piece together my build but I've never built a performance engine before (just basic rebuilds). I'm looking to try to get 500ish HP on pump gas and although it's possible, I don't know were to start. So I'm essentially collecting data before I even pull the engine. This is going to be a long term build since I have another 1999 Dakota R/T that's going to be my Home Depot truck.

@GrandPitoVic Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the info. I have a 03 Crown Vic P71 I am working on putting together a 6.0L Ls swap. Stage 2 is Def for me. She will be my mostly daily driver. Yea I don't wanting her loping so badly she is a bear to drive in traffic. Or have problems with vacuum so much brake are no longer power. That would such. When I was way younger I put a cam in a small block Chevy and when I fired her up she sounded awsome. My first cam. Lol. I jumped in her, threw her in gear and jumped on her and almost hit my moms car. Opps no power brakes lol. I won't do that again.

@johngregory4801 3 ай бұрын

Upgrading my '00 Grand Marquis. That LS should motivate our two ton rides nicely. I'm thinking of a 351W and a T-56 for mine. ADTR has what the suspension needs (and much more)

@GrandPitoVic 3 ай бұрын

@@johngregory4801 That's gonna be a beast!!! 351W with a 6 speed!!!

@GrandPitoVic 3 ай бұрын

@johngregory4801 I actually found a Ls3 block for $500 so I am building a Ls3 swap instead of a 6.O.

@johngregory4801 3 ай бұрын

@@GrandPitoVic Oh, no, a lighter, smaller (except for length) engine with an aftermarket that loves combining big power with a broad powerband. How WILL you be able to keep a grin off your face?

@GrandPitoVic 3 ай бұрын

@@johngregory4801 Lol, that'll be hard

@cjb.4590 5 ай бұрын

You helped me bro. I just wanna cam my 6.2 ls for a Lil more then stock pep and more fun szreet driving ...👍🏽✌🏽

@CSS_Fifty Ай бұрын

Looking at a stg 2 cam setup that's .639/.639 lift and 223/235 duration. I'm doing dual springs, pushrods, trunnions, lifters and dod delete. it's a 6th Gen Camaro. Only thing im concered about is if it will be ok with my stock valves and secondly do I need to do any head work or does that not matter?

@charlesburke5769 Ай бұрын

I have a 2013 gmc sierra with a 4.8 LS. It’s basically stock other than a cold air intake and an upgraded throttle plate. I need to replace the camshaft and was looking for something that has that choppy sound but will still work without having to change other parts. I don’t race it. I just like the choppy sound. Any recommendations?

@doughooks7411 Ай бұрын

Thanks much for the explanation. I have a 2013 Z06 (LS7) with~ 5400 miles on it. Bought it used from a dealership and unsure if valves were ever addresses. So, I decided to get a head swap for stock heads that have been completely reworked for my application of H/C/I with Kooks long tube headers and catted x pipe. It will have the MSD LS7 Intake Manifold, Corsa Intake, and BTR stage 3 cam. Hoping this will be a good fit for my LS7. Any thoughts would be appreciated. 💪🇺🇸

@bmasontv Ай бұрын

@@doughooks7411 you will end up with a combination extremely similar to one that I spent a ton of time with. You will absolutely love that car

@doughooks7411 Ай бұрын

@@bmasontv Thank you, Sir! That’s what I was hoping to find out. I have debated between stage 2 and stage 3 cams because of drivability, so any advice you have on that front would be very helpful. I do want it to have somewhat decent street manners. And, will I lose low end torque with a stage 3? This is really just a weekend street toy with no tracking. Thanks, D

@bmasontv Ай бұрын

@@doughooks7411 the extra cubes will help to calm that cam.down... well.as much as you can calm that cam.down. A 6.0 or 6.2 would be more rowdy with the same cam.

@doughooks7411 Ай бұрын

@@bmasontv Your words of wisdom are much appreciated, Sir. I don’t want to be one of “those” who wished they had gone with a smaller cam, but your logic makes sense. Goodness knows I have seen many builds of the mighty LS7 and the vast majority of the ones I have run across used a stage 3. Most of the videos I have seen of them either show them idling or ripping (which all look awesome) so the drivability was my only concern. The company doing it for me has done many of these very similar setups and say that it is a rock-solid build. I am just trying to take in as much as I can before the build so that I can really enjoy the final product. Thanks again for your help, Sir! D

@MaisPerformancee 10 ай бұрын

What an incredible video. I have a Camaro LS3 with a manual transmission and I want to prepare it with a complete BTR Stage 4 V2 kit, with an intake manifold and an air intake filter, what do you think of this preparation? My use is to have fun with the car and to bet on some street races

@PatrickReagan 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the explanations. It helps to unwrap the mystery behind these marketing labels used by retailers. Would you say that the "sniper cam" was more of a Stage 2, and is that still available?

@bmasontv 7 ай бұрын

For a 5.7 L I would consider the sniper to be a stage 2 cam. For a 6.4 L it would be, maybe a 1.5.. think of it for a 6.4 L as an appropriate cam for the street for someone that just wants more power everywhere but is not trying to get a lot of theater out of their cam. I no longer have a relationship with that shop that I put the camshaft program together for. Reach out to Peitz Performance and they can get you hooked up.

@vibe1360 3 ай бұрын

Im new to this, I have a 2009 f150 ford platinum 4.6 v3, I can’t seem to find the correct high performance cam kit, any help is appreciated

@imhtrod2093 Жыл бұрын

One of my channels! Thanks for all you do. I have a Procharged 5.7 and added 274 and ported heads. Maintained exact same HP as stock/procharger until 4K rpm where saw increase 10 HP and it pours on till 90 HP increase at 6250rpm. Thankfully I run 3.70 to help keep pop down low. Am I benefitting from a good tuner or could I have expected better out of a customer grind? Thanks again.

@bmasontv Жыл бұрын

274 is a good blower cam.

@bowman120volt 5 ай бұрын

I score a solid white 12ss2camaro three years ago with 3800 miles , now it’s got 13,000….. I got all my bolt ons set up and I’m about to pay it off in a year …. I’m cool with the power , it’s a cruiser , but I want that chop ! What kinda cam you suggest , it’s an ls3 ? And would you swap the torque converter also . It’s a shop queen , weekend use mostly

@mikehundley1405 Жыл бұрын

Great vids. Very informative. I’m camming my 2013 Challenger. 5.7, 5spd auto. Was wanting to go with a stage 2 but after watching several videos on KZbin, drivability seems to be an issue? I see a lot of people talking about their cars stalling out and or lunging forward….which tells me they need a stall? I absolutely hate stall converters so upgrading that isn’t an option… So at this point I’m thinking about a stage one. What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.

@bmasontv Жыл бұрын

I don't know that you would be happy with a stage one Cam.There's just not a lot Of performance gain. I would suggest long tube headers With a tune to make Then work properly and a cat back.

@mikehundley1405 Жыл бұрын

@@bmasontv Thanks! I’ve already got a set of long tubes and a cold air intake, just haven’t had a chance to get them mounted. Will also be running 100 shot of nitrous so the power will be there I think. I just miss the sound of a fairy choppy cam…..not willing to give up drivability though

@antoinearrington4476 Жыл бұрын

Great video man…any recommendations on where to start a build for a Hemi 6.4…Im not trying to chase a hellcat just wanted to add power slowly for a more fun driving experience?? Thanks in Advance

@theinvisibleman2709 4 ай бұрын

Building a 383 stroker with AFR 195 eliminator heads air gap rpm intake with a 750 hp Holley . Cam is Hydraulic roller Cam 544”/.543” Lift, 236°/244° Duration @ .050”, 110 LSA 1.6 intake 1.5 exhaust fully roller scorpion rockers. Big balls Street motor is my plan. Should be in the 500 hp range.. tell me what yeah think. Have a great day!

@bmasontv 3 ай бұрын

Should be a very fun combo!

@shaquan9893 9 ай бұрын

so, unless im gonna actually build it for the track, just go with stage 2 cam?

@bmasontv 9 ай бұрын

Yep

@calebcapek7891 8 ай бұрын

I have a 2016 charger r/t right now and would like to cam it, thinking about stage 2 after watching this video. Do you think a stage 2 cam, long tube headers, and a 90mm throttle body would give a fun increase without ruining drivability or longevity. I already have an air intake and it’s fully ported. I replaced the cam in my old charger (one in pfp) with oem cam but want to go a different, more fun route this time. Any advice or suggestions for power without risk would be greatly appreciated as I do not know a lot about these different cams or how it would affect the quality of the car.

@williamenzweiler8121 Жыл бұрын

Hi, my name is Bill. Watching your video on cam shafts, I’m in the process of buying a set of stage two for cams for my 2003 Ford zetec . this motors is going into a 1971 lotus Europa. I also plan on turbo charging. My question is am I going to have to add new valve springs, pistons and rods.This car will be used as a show car and to be driven on weekends. Thanks for your time Bill Enzweiler

@bmasontv Жыл бұрын

I have 0 experience with that engine family. But what I will tell you is that if you're planning on putting cams and boost in play, chances are you're gonna need Pistons and rods as well as a very healthy upgrade in fuel system

@rickpollock7957 Жыл бұрын

Wow i learned a lot.I have a 73 barn find chev trk with a 5.7L motor. I want to keep it stock as much as possible but i would like just a little cam lobe at an idle. Will a stage 2 cam work with out any more major up grades other then valve springs

@bmasontv Жыл бұрын

Quite honestly, that block is not going to really be able to take advantage of mud camshaft at all. That said, you could run a tight lobe separation angle with not much lift or duration and have a good sounding good running truck. By the way, congrats on the 73. The only boxy Chevy without drip rails good-looking truck

@chadrichardson411 5 ай бұрын

This guy needs to do something with that beard looks like he’s been eating Oreos

@robtko7447 9 ай бұрын

I have ls1 5.7, 224/228 cam, 3400 tc, ported heads, ls6 intake, headers, 373's. Can i go stage 3? Its drives pretty good on street now, almost daily type feel.

@bmasontv 9 ай бұрын

Keep the intake duration around 230-232 but expect to lose some drivability. Exhaust in the 236 range

@jasperpakk9185 5 ай бұрын

Hi, I own a Peugeot 206 With Tu5jp4 1.6 16v engine The car has been tune to stage 1 and wanted to upgrade it to higher stages and I've come with a question about the camshafts The camshaft I've chosen is newman ph3 that takes place somewhere between stage 2 and stage 3 of tuning The duration of cams are 264 degrees and the lift is 10.15 (0.400) and just wanted to make sure is it fine for daily uses and sometimes drag races between friends cause you sometimes stock in traffic and it's also my daily car I travel with it and go to work I have changed other parts too such as exhaust manifold replaced by headers, exhaust pipe, center and muffler were all changed Stage 2 Air manifold (nfs), And pistons were also changed and now have higher compression ratio Just wanted to know that this camshaft is proper for daily street uses or not Full specs are down below • intake & exhaust valve lift 10.15 mm (0.400 in) • intake & exhaust camshaft duration = 264 degree • Intake lift @ TDC: 1.8 mm • Exhaust lift @TDC: 1.8 mm Engine's Stock cam's specs : Intake valve lift 8 mm (0.315 in) Exhaust valve lift 7.65 mm (0.301 in) Intake camshaft duration 243 degrees Exhaust camshaft duration 237 degrees

@bmasontv 5 ай бұрын

That's going to be a pretty healthy bump over stock. Make sure you check piston to valve clearance. I'm not very familiar with that family of engine, but I can tell you that based on just the duration numbers it's going to shift power significantly further up the RPM range. Make sure that your intake manifold is up to the task.

@jasperpakk9185 5 ай бұрын

@@bmasontv Thanks for advise Yeah I have cnc machined the pistons to valve clearance for about 3mm Based on cams stats wanted to know that can I use that kind of cams for daily use or it's more like a race/drag cams and is not proper for daily and road use

@jonathaanttv1222 Жыл бұрын

Nice explanation 👍🏽 Im working on a 5.3ls lm7 I got 862 heads ported and long tube headers, and high oil pressure pump and ls7 lifters,ls1 rocker arms and ported intake manifold, here’s my question.. “can I put a stage 4 cam btr “560lift, 224/230

@bmasontv Жыл бұрын

224/230 is a popular street split for smaller displacement combos. I think you will be happy with it in your 5.3.

@mccastillo2933 5 ай бұрын

I have a 07 Gmc Sierra NBS Crew Cab fully rebuilt tranny with SS torque converter built by RGM transmission and fully rebuilt diff with eaton possi unit with 4:56 gears. It chops at idle. I’m trying to figure out what cam it has, pretty sure it’s a stage 3 but not certain because I didn’t do the work I just bought it like this. I think it’s tuned to 93 because I was told to only put that type into my truck and if I didn’t it would mess with it. So if you can help me out or if anyone in the comments can and if there’s a community I can join id really appreciate it🙏🏻

@WranghisKhan Жыл бұрын

I’ll be sure to save this Vid. Thinking about Camming the R/T next Car Season

@joshreynolds729 9 ай бұрын

Anyone know who makes the best stage 2 cam for the hellcat platform that doesn’t require converter as I have an automatic. Looking to go 2.85 upper pin the crank on 93 call it a day until I can afford long tubes. Do I need another pump? Street strip kinda deal has a little chop to it. Can sacrifice a little down low nothing crazy though. So far it’s between dusterhoff tunings cam packages, mmx NSR cam package, and the demon or demon plus cam ost dyno or hhp offer but require tq converters I believe? Kind of an older video but hey worth a shot. Great video btw thank. Who’s the best hemi tuners today

@1320_ikimasho 3 ай бұрын

You don't need to pin the crank w/ a 2.85 upper on 93. Your question posted 5 months ago but better late than never.

@joshreynolds729 3 ай бұрын

@@1320_ikimasho hey thanks

@noavgrt6490 Жыл бұрын

Great info like and share

@DavidOttosen 7 ай бұрын

Great video I have a question this is what I’m doing. I have 306 Calculation says 10 to one aluminum heads 60 cc combustion chamber, 1.6 rockers C4 1800 stall. No Cam is Elgin 220 intake 226 exhaust lope separation 112 l499 intake exhaust. Exhaust 510 I’m not sure if I bought the right Cam, part number of the Cam 1835- p would you be able to educate me? Thanks.

@bmasontv 7 ай бұрын

All depends on the application. Truck or car, .. goal for the vehicle? what intake manifold? Fuel injection or carbed? What heads? Not a bad street cam. Will perform somewhat similarly to a B303 cam. Don't go cheap on the springs and pushrods.

@michaelgroves3919 Жыл бұрын

Great info as always.

@RexxCollects Ай бұрын

Question, I am about to put 285s on the rear and 265s on the front of my 2022 challenger shaker. Are those good sizes? Just want a more aggressive stance over the 245 stock tires.

@bmasontv Ай бұрын

@@RexxCollects for the size of wheel that comes on those cars, which is a 9 inch. I believe that 275 is about as wide as you would want to go given the aspect ratio that you're going to be working with

@RexxCollects Ай бұрын

@bmasontv sweet! Thanks man!🫡

@malamri424 Жыл бұрын

If you're doing a mds delete for a daily driver, go with the stage 1

@dannyolvera9329 Жыл бұрын

Why

@malamri424 Жыл бұрын

@@dannyolvera9329 more power, same valve springs

@chrismcdaniel423 4 ай бұрын

Nice video. I have a LS1 5.7 with BTR stage 4, LS6 intake, T56 with LS7 clutch and stock rear 3.42 gears. What is a budget head replacement from stock 853. I have long tube headers with corsa exhaust

@bmasontv 4 ай бұрын

I believe Texas Speed has CNC ported LS1 heads which perform very well

@nathanielheyward 2 ай бұрын

Did you claim to run a 10.059 in a 2015 stock hellcat then posted the time on dodge garage under stock?

@bmasontv 2 ай бұрын

@@nathanielheyward yep, stock boost on 93 octane. And about as stock as most of the cars that are posted on Dodge garage claimed to be in that list.

@Cultofpersonality09129 Жыл бұрын

Whoever started putting cams in stages is a buffoon. If someone asks me about a “stage cam”. I tell them to ask someone else. I know, lift, duration, lsa, icl, overlap, ect. I don’t know stages.

@Opppopo-k4k Жыл бұрын

I have 2013 zl1 what the best cam for it the car 19 thousand miles.

@oprecourt 10 ай бұрын

What about the 3/4 race cam?

@riology2234 Жыл бұрын

what about getting a short rear end gears (3.70 or 3.90) to make up for the low end torque loss for a specific cam? is this a correct way of looking at it?

@bmasontv Жыл бұрын

The gearing is a secondary portion of this topic. Yes, more aggressive gearing will help with cars with short runner intakes and large cams, in that it will help the car get off the line and get into its power band more quickly. However, this is really more about the nature of the engine and its power delivery in general. The personality of the engine if you will. The rest of the combination will 100% be dependent on the heads can heads Cam and intake configuration of that engine.

@menacess2860 11 ай бұрын

Well explained👍