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Ron Spomer Outdoors

Ron Spomer Outdoors

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Welcome to Ron Spomer Outdoors! In today's 30-06 Week installment, we have a shoot-off and pit the best rifles in the bunch against each other. Who is the overall winner? Find out on this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors.
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For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 ай бұрын
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@michaelwilson9986
@michaelwilson9986 3 ай бұрын
One optic I dont know much about.
@davepowell3293
@davepowell3293 3 ай бұрын
I have a bolt ,lever and a pump would like to see the 7600 rem in action
@toddhall5565
@toddhall5565 3 ай бұрын
I really like my Maven 2.5-10×39 compact. Right around 12.5" and I believe under 13 oz with a great view through the glass.
@boondogger
@boondogger 3 ай бұрын
Carbine, not near as accurate as the 760
@brandiwynter
@brandiwynter 3 ай бұрын
I don't own any Maven's but big thanks to them for helping make this video possible!
@mikemelina7395
@mikemelina7395 3 ай бұрын
All of the rifles you have there are more than capable of shooting MOA and you're cranking on the dials getting vast shifts in zero. It's the scopes, I guess it's better to say nothing than to say what I'm thinking. Great content though Ron, we appreciate you always.
@Del_licious
@Del_licious 3 ай бұрын
Seemed like the groups got worse as the video progressed, so if they used the same scope on all of the rifles, that would make sense to me that it's an issue with the scope.
@michaelwilson9986
@michaelwilson9986 3 ай бұрын
@@Del_licious There was more than 1 scope ,I believe 2 to 4.. Still a good bit of ware n tear on changing out,recentering,re-entering, zeroing..
@angelrojas0317
@angelrojas0317 3 ай бұрын
Definitely the scopes No doubt
@jim99west46
@jim99west46 3 ай бұрын
Maven internals for elevation and windage and also reticle stability are cheaply Made.I just watched a sako quest in 300 win mag shoot a .36 group with a,Steiner scope on it and sako ammo. Optics you get what you pay for. Maven is way down there. To use Talley rings with a good rifle and a junky scope is border line criminally ridiculous and Ron ought to know better.
@John_Redcorn_
@John_Redcorn_ 3 ай бұрын
@@jim99west46nothing wrong with talley rings. The scopes tho, ive never heard of maven so im betting theyre not that great.
@medbill
@medbill 3 ай бұрын
Browning BLR's are great! Are you sure its not a scope issue?
@bew5634
@bew5634 3 ай бұрын
One thing Ron should keep in mind is his grip on the guns. Seems like some groups he is real loose on the first and second shots but then he tightens up on the third. I think this contributes to some of the kickers. Overall great vid and loved this week I’m a 3006 guy myself.
@robertsebacher44
@robertsebacher44 3 ай бұрын
My guess is the scopes are the problem. I have 270, 30:06, 308, and 7mm REM Mag that all shoot sub MOA. Rings and mounts all have their inherent problems. There is now the possibility that enough premium ammunition may not be used to find one that the rifle prefers due to its cost. As you are aware the other variables affecting accuracy are too numerous to list. I also own in addition to those you tested, pump, semi automatic, and falling block rifles that are capable of greater accuracy than I can any longer achieve. If you’re just testing the rifle accuracy and not interested in ergonomics etc. then fire your groups from a led sled or other type of Vice. If you’re concerned with the guns suitability for hunting you need to try it from realistic shooting positions and not from a bench, after you have handled the rifle enough to be at least familiar and comfortable with it. All this is, of course, time intensive not to mention the expense of ammunition. It also helps to know competent gunsmiths who specialize in the firearms concerned. Sometimes a small tweak can have disproportionate benefits. Other times no amount of effort will create a cost effective solution. If you want to play then you have to roll the dice. My best advice is to place quality as your first priority within your fiscal limitations. Mine are fairly modest.
@stewarthoy7357
@stewarthoy7357 3 ай бұрын
Ron, I don’t think that many rifles shoot that poorly. I also know you are a pretty decent marksman. I question those Maven scopes.
@SpudOutdoors
@SpudOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
I have maven they shoot great. Japanese scopes. One he didn’t make sure thread protectors were tight. Also I have learned to put a level on my scopes. Reduce all variances in my shooting.
@topfeedcoco
@topfeedcoco 3 ай бұрын
Instant thumbs up for the Ron's 30-06 Can-Can 😘
@abwdagreat
@abwdagreat 3 ай бұрын
Watching from Tasmania Australia, just bought my first 30-06 it's a single shot Baikal. My motto is you shouldn't need two shots.
@raoulsilaghi2504
@raoulsilaghi2504 3 ай бұрын
Until you do 😉
@abwdagreat
@abwdagreat 3 ай бұрын
@@raoulsilaghi2504 won't lie and say it hasn't happened but always been quick enough to follow up still with the single shot.
@raoulsilaghi2504
@raoulsilaghi2504 3 ай бұрын
@@abwdagreat Good for you then. I'm hunting in Burgundy, France and the environment doesn't permits always a good single shot.
@abwdagreat
@abwdagreat 3 ай бұрын
I won't take the shot if I think I'll need a second.
@andrewcleveland
@andrewcleveland 3 ай бұрын
I had a ruger no 1 in 416 rem mag really liked that rifle, but as soon as I finally found a Winchester m70 safari in same caliber I had to get it. Took me forever to finally track down that model 70 during covid. Really love the ruger no 1’s, but I still prefer bolt actions. I do a lot of jump shooting whitetails walking cutovers and a single shot is not that great for that 😂
@jamiepezoulas4546
@jamiepezoulas4546 3 ай бұрын
That was painful. I would love to see this re-done with a different scope.
@SNELLERIZED
@SNELLERIZED 3 ай бұрын
Time to try some different scopes.
@RicClairday
@RicClairday 3 ай бұрын
After finding a loose screw in a rail. I would start with screw tension and optics. I have 4 30-06 rifles, and they can be a bit finicky with ammo. I don't own a single rifle that shoots Remington or Hornady ammunition well.
@thomasdaniel6495
@thomasdaniel6495 3 ай бұрын
You know,I don't really think this series has really shown how bad the rifles shoot,I think it shows more about the factory loadings being harder to shoot,or find one that does.I have been playing with 06 rifles for over forty years now,and always had an easy time of finding good handloads for them.The factories have a lot working against them to produce high quality ammo for the 06.I have never found a factory load to shoot like I want it to,some fairly acceptable,but never great.Good series,enjoyed it,keep up the good work. P.S.,I feel like everyone of these rifles are good shooters,and with just a little experimenting you could easily find a good load for them,in whatever weight,with handloads.
@kevinblair5708
@kevinblair5708 3 ай бұрын
Ron, you have finally impressed me. You finally have a show exclusively for America’s cartridge 30.06! God bless you, my brother from another mother.
@kevinblair5708
@kevinblair5708 3 ай бұрын
@@FranzAntonMesmer the finest cartridge ever made.
@tim7052
@tim7052 3 ай бұрын
Superb cartridge!! I've taken a LOT of game from around the world with mine - a Ruger M77 (tang safety). Wildebeeste, kudu, impala, warthog, camels, goats, 100-pt water buffalo - and even sharks - have all been taken efficiently with my rifle. It just goes to prove what Ron said: "It's hard to beat that .30/06!!" 🥰👍
@dancrane674
@dancrane674 3 ай бұрын
I am shocked at how poorly these rifles have shot. When I bought my Tikka T3X and was breaking it in, it shot a 9/16” group with Whitetail ammo! I’ve since gone to hand loading and have done a bit better with .05” groups with both 124gr and 168gr Hammer Hunters. I highly doubt each of those rifles shoot that poorly there is something else going on. If that had been me, I’d have put one of my personal scopes on one of those rifles to see if that was the problem. This is not a great example how accurate the 30-06 really is.
@allenlarabie8854
@allenlarabie8854 3 ай бұрын
💯% agree 👍🏻
@jamescook7051
@jamescook7051 3 ай бұрын
Something is wrong. Maybe scope is not up to handling the recoil, maybe try another shooter with same setup and same ammo and compare those results. Then try another scope/mount combo. All these should be around 1-2 MOA with most loads.
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 3 ай бұрын
Not that I know anything after 60+ years reloading hunting and collecting rifles but I think it’s the ammo or the scope or mounts causing the problem from what I have seen from sighting in hundreds of guns😳
@ChrisMiano-cg7ll
@ChrisMiano-cg7ll 3 ай бұрын
I’ve tried 4 different Christensen Carbon barrel Rifles and sold every one of them. They are they were all heat sensitive. Two good shots and then it was over. I e seen it at the range with other people. I agree that rifle has something wrong with it but that rifle is their normal.
@ridgewalker2416
@ridgewalker2416 2 ай бұрын
I have a cheap Remington 78. I put a cheap Remington plastic stock on it many many years ago. The best factory load is the Barnes 150 TTSX into .47” at the 100 meter range. Hornady 165 SST factory loads into .75”. Hand loads ranging from 130 Barnes TTSX to Nosler 200 Partition are all under 1.0” at the 100 meter range. I too like to shoot only 3 shots at a time, then on multiple days with different atmospheric conditions testing again. So far I have taken a lot of game in my 76 years and very rarely has it taken more than the first shot out of a cold barrel. In all honesty on tougher game such as elk, I keep shooting until they are down and dead. Mainly in respect for the animal. Thanks for your interesting shows. I hope I never get too old to learn something new, or be reminded of something I have forgotten. LOL!
@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610
@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610 3 ай бұрын
Cool 😎 , I own a BLR in .30-06
@johnhagerman320
@johnhagerman320 3 ай бұрын
The 30-06 made by real men and blessed by the good Lord. God knows how much I love mine. And everyone I know compares everything to the 30-06
@galenhisler396
@galenhisler396 3 ай бұрын
It's time for the 270 win. 🤠
@andrewcleveland
@andrewcleveland 3 ай бұрын
I love the 30/06, but the 270 win has always been the perfect whitetail cartridge to me.
@bobkat1663
@bobkat1663 3 ай бұрын
I would really be interested to measure those barrels dia. land and grove, before send them off, and pulling the bullets and measuring them , see if one or both are out of speck. Thank you both really enjoy these series of the various gun makers out there. Great Show.
@JBASH2011
@JBASH2011 3 ай бұрын
7 pound trigger. Barrel band. Lever action. Best groups. LMAO. And love it. Loved this whole week Ron. Thanks so much
@hakokiri3627
@hakokiri3627 3 ай бұрын
And a take down rifle to boot!
@George-tz1cv
@George-tz1cv 3 ай бұрын
I have 3 BLRs, (2 short actions and 1 300 WM long action,) and every one of them shoot great.
@theoriginalDAL357
@theoriginalDAL357 3 ай бұрын
@@George-tz1cvOne MOA or better?
@NunchucksHabit
@NunchucksHabit 3 ай бұрын
@@George-tz1cv I've been searching for one in 30-06 for a few months - tough to find the BLR Stainless '81 Takedown in Canada. No ETA, just "out of stock". I checked for other calibres too, no dice. I had no idea what the BLR would be like with even 30-06, so with a 300WM, that thing must buck like a bronco!
@davidhowe7844
@davidhowe7844 3 ай бұрын
I've got one of the regular BLR 81 models (not takedown) in 325wsm and I've stacked shots in the same hole with it using 200gr barnes handloads. They're surprisingly great shooting guns
@sigvald11
@sigvald11 3 ай бұрын
Love the safety shown in this series
@speyguyonthefly4798
@speyguyonthefly4798 3 ай бұрын
Get the garmin chrono u won’t regret it . Hard to get good groups with most factory stuff as u know . I love my 30-06 model 70 SS feather light shoots tight groups
@Gearsofchocolate
@Gearsofchocolate 3 ай бұрын
The way that Christensen Arms rifle was acting, I'm not surprised. I've had a couple friends who have bought their products, then returned or got rid of them, real fast. Not to mention, the action on that gun seemed incredibly stiff, gritty and just plain rough out of all those other guns. Not acceptable from a company that charges so much for their products. Other than that, great video. Love the 30-06!! My Remington 700 CDL shoots a majority of ammo, MOA or better. I love it!
@warrenpolidori5541
@warrenpolidori5541 3 ай бұрын
Having a hard time thinking all these rifles shoot this poorly. Many of these tests weren't groups at all with wild flyers. While not a big fan of sleds, for this test, it would help establish a better baseline. Properly torqued action screws, and a free float check would also erase some questions. We're the barrels cleaned? Too many questions without knowing if we have an even starting point. Just my .02c
@awsomedude12345678
@awsomedude12345678 3 ай бұрын
Well after 30-06 week i know not to buy a maven scope either that or ron is just a terrible shot
@GunsAndGrenache
@GunsAndGrenache 3 ай бұрын
270 Week coming up next?
@thepracticalrifleman
@thepracticalrifleman 3 ай бұрын
So .308 is more accurate, and 165s in both go about the same speed, at least according to Nosler. Haha Ron’s .308 hating seems like it will fade away.
@lesliemann8859
@lesliemann8859 3 ай бұрын
What about the sako s20 30-06 Springfield
@timetodopatriotstuff2315
@timetodopatriotstuff2315 3 ай бұрын
Come-on the carbon fiber barrels never shoot good there is no replacement for weighted barrels, every video of the Christenson arms rifles they are always making excuses for 😊
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 ай бұрын
😳 Probably Cheap Scopes or Bad Scope Mounts? 🤭 Or, Ron Needs To Keep His Shots Within 200 Yards! 🤓
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 3 ай бұрын
I was think 150 yards but that’s just me😳🤣 Us old guys get better at giving advise and worse at being able to do it🤔
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 ай бұрын
🕵️‍♂️ When The Sako Rifle Didn't Shoot, I Knew Something Wasn't Quite Right! 🙄
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 ай бұрын
😬 Ron Probably Knew Too, But He Wasn't Willing to Call Out The Scope Company As The Problem! 🤷‍♂️
@finniganshomestead2956
@finniganshomestead2956 3 ай бұрын
That makes me happy that I bought a 1950 vintage JC Higgins ( Mauser98 made by FN ) that will shoot sub MOA with 130 grain TSX and 180 Nosler partition. I got that rifle as a never fired safe queen for 300 bucks Paid more for the scope and bases than I did for the rifle ... long live the good old 06
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico 3 ай бұрын
What a treasure !!
@finniganshomestead2956
@finniganshomestead2956 3 ай бұрын
@@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico I wanted it for the action to build a 6.5 - 06 Ai on it but then made the " mistake " to shoot the donor rifle
@gregewing3916
@gregewing3916 3 ай бұрын
The two bullets I was thinking of hand loading are the 130 grain Barnes and the 165 gr. Not likely to go elk hunting so either wanted to handle any deer in this neck of the woods
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico 3 ай бұрын
@@finniganshomestead2956 that mistake was sacred destiny!
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico 3 ай бұрын
@@finniganshomestead2956 did you name your special rifle? I give mine some cool and sometimes NSFW names
@dimensionsofearth
@dimensionsofearth 3 ай бұрын
As soon as Ron chuckled at the end, I knew it was the Browning lever action that shot the best group! Loved 30-06 week and love the 30-06! That M1 Garand with open sights to what, 500 yards? Really impressed me too.
@andymauthe5508
@andymauthe5508 3 ай бұрын
Really inconsistent groupings. Yes the 30-06 has been around a long time and I can believe that the chamber dimensions are more sloppy than a modern PRC or other such chamber. But one of the most accurate rifles I own and have ever shot is a Sauer 202 in 30-06. It’s got a fairly light sporter weight barrel but consistently shoots right around a half inch at 100 yards with good factory ammo. So a 30-06 is certainly capable of very good accuracy. None of these rifles shot very well considering what some of them cost and the fact that they are are all current manufactured. Doesn’t make sense to me.
@awsomedude12345678
@awsomedude12345678 3 ай бұрын
Hes shooting upwards all that muzzle rise is definitely not helpful
@christianzale505
@christianzale505 3 ай бұрын
I think the scopes are the issue not the rifles.
@awsomedude12345678
@awsomedude12345678 3 ай бұрын
@christianzale505 it can't be the rifles i only ever had one gun (out of 15 or so) that shot consistently worse than 1.5 moa and i traded it away Now given thats with handloads but still most factory ammo i can keep at about 1.25 moa average
@craigmarks2771
@craigmarks2771 3 ай бұрын
You were shooting to the right and stated i need to dial back to the right and then shot off paper to right. Think you dialed scope the wrong way.
@Aussie038
@Aussie038 3 ай бұрын
By the time he went to the third rifle he was getting tired. It was not the ammo or the rifle that was causing the larger groups :)
@anthonygendron9737
@anthonygendron9737 3 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly the online reviews of all of the Christianson Rifle the have quality issues and do not shoot very well. Backfire channel had said the same.
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 3 ай бұрын
Just a over priced 700 clone action😳😢
@stewarthoy7357
@stewarthoy7357 3 ай бұрын
I have a 308 Ridgeline and it’s a tack driver! Guess I got lucky.
@clintonlayne9253
@clintonlayne9253 3 ай бұрын
Ron , I think your shoulder has taken a pounding from all the testing . That may be part of the issue.
@gregbaker9985
@gregbaker9985 3 ай бұрын
My Remington 7400 I bought in 1982. Shoot a lot better than all those put together
@joshuamccasland8180
@joshuamccasland8180 3 ай бұрын
Ron, keep this up with different cartridges. I think your doing something different than mainstream and I like it.
@dougkahler7152
@dougkahler7152 3 ай бұрын
Tika or Sako would smoke those rifles. Sorry but I’m not impressed with those rifles. I like that BLR the best out of the bunch. I just would rather have that .660 group with the 165s instead of the 180s. Great video Ron.
@nilsforseth404
@nilsforseth404 3 ай бұрын
Hi Ron. Like I mentioned in another video comments, I've been shooting 30-06 rifles for 53 years. I have never had groups that large ever. Since most of the rifles you used shot poorly I don't think it's the rifles. The common denominator for each rifle is the scope. My new Winchester model 70 Super Grade 30-06 shoots less than 1 MOA. Usually 0.5 inch groups. Then again I hand load specifically for both my 30-06 rifles. The other being a 1972 Remington 700 BDL that still shoots 0.5 inch groups. I would try a different make scope to see what happens. Good luck.
@jameswallace3226
@jameswallace3226 3 ай бұрын
Leupold or Ziess for about the same money
@jeffreyadams5017
@jeffreyadams5017 3 ай бұрын
Like that Browning lever action. Sweet looking rifle. Good in the woods or back country. Very maneuverable in any hunting situation
@RedHuntsman
@RedHuntsman 3 ай бұрын
Miroku makes some nice rifles. The BLR as an example.
@joshkrebs1999
@joshkrebs1999 3 ай бұрын
I'm not an amazing shooter, but I have a CVA Cascade in 30-06, and I can keep it within 2 inches at 100 yards kneeling off hand if I do my part. 🤷‍♂️
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 ай бұрын
🤭 Ron, I Guess You Showed WHY You Should Go Back To The 270 Winchester For Elk Hunting and the 6.8 Western For Hunting Big Deer...Because You Can Shoot the 270 Caliber Much Better! 😃 Thank You Sir For Proving My Point! 😜 We Have The Evidence on Camera Now! 😂
@20cameron1
@20cameron1 3 ай бұрын
Good to see someone that doesn’t discount this great cartridge. I have a Tikka T3X roughtech with ember stock in 30-06. At 100 yards I get 1/2” groups with Barnes Vortx 150gr and Hornady outfitter 180gr. I get 2-3 inch groups at 100 yards shooting offhand.
@brandiwynter
@brandiwynter 3 ай бұрын
My Savage 116 FCSS will definitely shoot sub MOA with the right ammo of course. The lightweight barrel hinders shooting a lot though. I always wanted a heavier barrel for it but it shoots so nice for the first 5 or 6 shots I just can't do it. It's a hunting rifle, not a target rifle.
@ronladuke7235
@ronladuke7235 3 ай бұрын
Can’t believe all those rifles are several brands of ammo would group so erratically?😢
@anthonyjbargeman5280
@anthonyjbargeman5280 3 ай бұрын
Ron, I still love my Remington 700. And it's a shooter @ one up to one and a quarter moa. Even better with hand loads.
@alyssadolphincloud8867
@alyssadolphincloud8867 3 ай бұрын
The Remington 700 cdl is one of my favorites, hard to wrong with any 700
@wiregrassga
@wiregrassga 3 ай бұрын
My current .30-06 is a tang safety Ruger 77 I bought new in 1981. It had disappointing accuracy initially with factory loads but I found a handload that makes it shoot like a target rifle; 150gr Nosler BT and IMR 4064. With this load it will shoot consistent sub MOA. Also I did make one modification, floating the barrel.
@stephenfowler4115
@stephenfowler4115 3 ай бұрын
The "loser" in this shoot out got progressively worse which suggests that something was loose.
@Sageofthe16
@Sageofthe16 3 ай бұрын
looking at these groups is brutal. my buddy has a maven scope on a 5k gun that wouldn't shoot. put a nightforce on and it got really tight
@lyellclare9365
@lyellclare9365 3 ай бұрын
As per my previous comments , I would take a serious look at the quality of the scopes and check the bases and are the thread caps for a suppressor tight.
@IRishbuck58
@IRishbuck58 3 ай бұрын
No more CanCan you CantCant lol, y’all haven’t been smoking any wacky tobacca lol
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 ай бұрын
🤭 Sounds Like This Was Ron's Way of Promoting The 7mm prc? 🕵️‍♂️
@magamilitia1075
@magamilitia1075 3 ай бұрын
Remington 700 mountain !! Shoots Remington 165 grain tip , very well !
@manuelperea6038
@manuelperea6038 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, Ron... don't like this video. I think the scopes are not good and that is not fair to the rifles.When you made corrections the impacts went in all directions. You must try with another brand of scopes.
@north61
@north61 3 ай бұрын
I stopped buying new rifles as many of them either don't feed well or shoot badly or both! I am sticking with the rifles that I have that shoot and am done buying new stuff.
@steverutkowski8141
@steverutkowski8141 3 ай бұрын
I get sponsored vids but wondering if the scopes are the issue???
@JamesClark-lw6sw
@JamesClark-lw6sw 3 ай бұрын
In my testing of a lot of rifles durung the last 45 years, the 30-06 shoots just a as good ( sub MOA) as my 308s all things being equal.
@karsonbranham3900
@karsonbranham3900 3 ай бұрын
I’ll go for the BLR, what’s not to like!?!
@christianzale505
@christianzale505 3 ай бұрын
I really think the issue here are the Maven scopes. I have a hard time believing that all these rifles shoot this terribly.
@poorfatman5317
@poorfatman5317 3 ай бұрын
Leaver action with a hundred and eighty gr Was under three quarters of an inch
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 ай бұрын
🕵️‍♂️ Whether It is These Scopes I've Never Heard of, The Mounting of Them, etc...You Have Just Shown Why You Should Never Be Taking a 777 yard Shot on Deer! 😂
@michaelwilson9986
@michaelwilson9986 3 ай бұрын
This was good n bit disappointing as well. I as you expected far better groups than turned out. Been around too many 06s n old n new they all shoot better than these as a whole. ? Is why? Am wondering if scope issue,cleaning issue ,wind issue n even too much trigger time. Ah well it was good n fun.. Be interesting to see about that Christian Carry On n God Bless.
@KellyBrown-j9q
@KellyBrown-j9q 2 ай бұрын
Christensen arms Did find what made shoot wide Was muzzle brake tight
@KingLoopie1
@KingLoopie1 3 ай бұрын
Looks to me it's scope problems. Torques? I'll take the blr and the 180's.
@thomasdecember3910
@thomasdecember3910 3 ай бұрын
Its either the scopes or you ron ?
@powderedmartini
@powderedmartini 3 ай бұрын
I think he hit a fly at 5:30 with 2nd shot. Something was stuck to the target after the shot and blew off when 3rd hit. Jed Clampet right there!
@W.Edwardovich
@W.Edwardovich 3 ай бұрын
This would’ve been a great showdown, had you used a good scope. I still enjoyed it, though!
@puckerfactoroffroad1326
@puckerfactoroffroad1326 3 ай бұрын
I'm sure they make some that really do shoot well, but it seems like almost every christensen rifle on KZbin is extremely picky, unreliable, and/or just plain inaccurate. I do like the look and feel of their rifles, though!
@tonymills7883
@tonymills7883 3 ай бұрын
What is up guys my xpr shoots sub moa at 100 yards . That is with a 124gr hammer hunter all the way up to a 178 ELDX. I have never seen such bad groups out of 30-06.
@tonymills7883
@tonymills7883 3 ай бұрын
You could have got a browning x bolt 2 and tried it . That’s is a fine rifle for the cost.
@peterhert9350
@peterhert9350 3 ай бұрын
My XPR 3006 shoots as good, but I have to look from time to time that the actionscrews don't come loose.
@BourbonPrepper
@BourbonPrepper 3 ай бұрын
None of the rifles grouped aa expected. Either those aren't good scopes or they weren't torqued to spec. But 2024 rifles from major manufacturers should all be sub MOA.
@michaelwilson9986
@michaelwilson9986 3 ай бұрын
Intresting on poor accuracy with early Remington Scirrccos 1s. 2nd factory ammo bought to field test,before getting the bullets. Accuracy was fine,field use nope. Had me concerned with the AB a couple yrs later.. 06 n 300 RUM btw. Havent got around to trying the 2s yet.Hear there alot better. Carry On
@alfredbryant8328
@alfredbryant8328 3 ай бұрын
Ruger Hawkeye 30-06 stainless barrel 22” is extremely accurate and so is the Ruger American. The Westherby uses Howa barrels and it’s up there in accuracy.
@adamturnbull6157
@adamturnbull6157 3 ай бұрын
Ill keep hunting with my Tikka after watching this. Thanks for putting in the work so we dont have to.
@dougchandler1248
@dougchandler1248 3 ай бұрын
Love the 3006 but the groups in these videos would make a statue cry.
@gregewing3916
@gregewing3916 3 ай бұрын
That is where good old-fashioned handloading might or might not improve things
@SunoCorner
@SunoCorner 3 ай бұрын
Let's see how the .270 does :)
@davidmackee8575
@davidmackee8575 3 ай бұрын
Think what your videos have shown over the week Ron is how bad factory ammo actually is buying an expensive rifle doesn't make it shoot any better 🤔
@RobertSmith-xh4lx
@RobertSmith-xh4lx 3 ай бұрын
Ok I have two Howa 1500 30-06s with factory 22" barrels....I handload for both....one is in a aluminum chassis, the other is in a carbon fiber m40 type stock....I average 3/4 moa with both, and lately have been around 1/4 to 3/8s if I do my part.... You're right Ron it is about the quality of the components..... how well the cartridge fits the chamber etc.
@Royal-xh8db
@Royal-xh8db 3 ай бұрын
I think you've convinced me to never buy a Maven scope.
@sigvald11
@sigvald11 3 ай бұрын
On that last rifle when you were going right you said you dialed it right when you adjusted, might be part of the issue.
@lmbear
@lmbear 3 ай бұрын
I grew up with the 30-06, and love the cartridge. None of these rifles impressed me at all. When I was 12 years old, I got my first 30-06, a sporterized m1917, and that rifle shot about 3 times better than any of these rifles. Meaning sub moa with just about any ammo you fed it. Also, the Christensen Arms does not surprise me. I've seen many that have not shoot well. Again, you should have shot a Tikka T3x. It would have made all of these rifles look bad. Or worse than they already did. If this was a commercial for new rifles, I'd be looking for a used pre 64 model 70!!!!!!
@ed5042
@ed5042 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for shooting again, was Shocked with the first results
@yanmak2363
@yanmak2363 3 ай бұрын
Love the BLR
@terrywomack4756
@terrywomack4756 3 ай бұрын
Agreed!!!
@n7565j
@n7565j 3 ай бұрын
Funny, the cheapest rifles, (which got "fresh" scopes), shot the best... Wonder if the 06's recoil caused issues for them??? It shouldn't, but it seems strange that the best rifles shot worse, and in some, MUCH WORSE!!! And in the final round, rifles that shot ok in earlier rounds, shot terrible!!! You are gonna have to revisit this Ron!!! Would be interested to see you put one of these scopes on a known good shooter to prove they're good... Just a thought .
@brandiwynter
@brandiwynter 3 ай бұрын
Next you guys need to do a classic open sight lever action accuracy test. .357 mag, the all time classic winner the .45 Colt and the .44 magnum. Test the Winchester, Henry, Rossi and some of the high end guns like Bighorn Armory and others 😁.
@boondogger
@boondogger 3 ай бұрын
Have a problem with what you call hunting shots. Shooting at animals at 1000 yards is a joke. That's not hunting, that's shooting very disrespectful
@mattharmon3838
@mattharmon3838 3 ай бұрын
Winchester has always been the top.
@turdferguson2839
@turdferguson2839 3 ай бұрын
Wish the Browing BAR was included, it shot just as good as these and a lot of guys don't want a bolt action. The Browning jammed but that just means it's functioning the same as a regular bolt action lol.
@csjrogerson2377
@csjrogerson2377 3 ай бұрын
That 150 gr sirocco ammo didn't seem to work well in any rifle and the 100 fps spread wasn't helping.. The expensive rifles were rubbish.
@ironmaiden4746
@ironmaiden4746 3 ай бұрын
I have a bergara b 14 hunter in 30-06 and did have moa at 100 yards. But I did have to clean it first to get there I used 150g Sako gamehead
@billburton9212
@billburton9212 3 ай бұрын
Ron at the rifle range I shoot at, the range master says that Christensen Arms has more problems with shooters. I have a Christensen arms rifle that will not shoot. I would like to sell it but feel guilty to sell such a bad rifle..
@walterdl2904
@walterdl2904 3 ай бұрын
Underwhelming performance. Rifle or ammo or both? I'm so confused!
@suckadoesstuff7095
@suckadoesstuff7095 3 ай бұрын
a buddy of mine has that same christensen and he hates that rifle and the carbon fiber barrel was terrible
@jameswallace3226
@jameswallace3226 3 ай бұрын
Ron I'm no precision shooter, but I believe that I could do just as good with a $100 dollar scope on a savage Axis. Love the videos though.
@mikerobinson6606
@mikerobinson6606 3 ай бұрын
I think you have a bad scope.....hmmm You can keep those carbon barrels. Sponsored guns?
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