Can A Modern Formula 1 Actually Beat the V10s?

[@papawoody9597]

The two best sounds from F1's past that I'll mourn the loss of probably forever - The manic shriek of a V10, and Kimi on the radio.

[@WantonSoup192]

Iceman

[@aimarowenhuarte]

And they call kimithe iceman

[@alf3071]

yea it's so sad they don't sound like that anymore, that is the real sound of formula 1, it should never be forgotten

[@aimarowenhuarte]

@@alf3071 exactly the V8 years where some fantastic years

[@philipejeuceoututkache]

@@aimarowenhuarte but not as best as the V10 era.

[@tomcole020]

It’d be cool to see a “restomod” of an early ‘00s V10 F1 car with modern aero,tires, DRS e.t.c to see how insane it’d be

[@nesovsky1474]

rfactor2 formula pro

[@thatonenigeriansformula]

I was just day dreaming about that

[@thatonenigeriansformula]

F2004 with turbo v10, drs , ers , and slick tires , driven by pedro de la rosa

[@laszlovanhouwelingen645]

@@thatonenigeriansformula dont forget the 8th gear. It could probs go 380 with all of that(8th gear, drs, ers and slicks) not that slicks matter for topspeed but still

[@wolfx.2546]

@@nesovsky1474 yes

[@greenboir1383]

The little insert of Kimi saying“Just leave me alone I know what I’m doing” got me😂

[@gregrowe1168]

Kimi's commentary never disappoints. "Leave me alone, I know what to do" Lol.

[@techbusiness9589]

😅😂😂

[@t.m.a6669]

This is fun tonwatch

[@arjun._.bbC6]

Ferrari on hards. Yep. They predicted the future.

[@t.t.k132]

yep

[@a3nofficial25]

Yep

[@PhantomXT]

Yep

[@shawn4997]

yep

[@aviaspotter32]

Yep

[@AlexMitoMedia]

All the Kimi Moments! Gonna miss him in that mega quick McLaren from 2005. 900bhp and so much lighter than 2021 machines. Great video man I love your voice and excitement!

[@Ermz]

We'll all miss him! End of an era, for sure.,

[@kayzenl7911]

Meanwhile 2022 cars are heavier than 2022 uglier or even worst

[@DEDE-mt3yq]

yeah perfect video i just missed the time and placements while they were racing.

[@berkin99]

shame it blew up half the time

[@PhillBogart]

"Is the drink on?" "No, Kimi. No drink." "Is the drink on?" LOL, Kimi gold. Kimi definitely likes to "drink and drive". 😄

[@monkeycheese6756]

Honestly, imagine what power they could get out of a V10 these days, it would be insane.

[@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189]

Imagine e power they could get out of these Cars if they had the same displacement as v10

[@Celatra]

V10 weighs too much. Also no turbo + the current weight of the cars = slower overall cars

[@claudiomarangone614]

@@Celatra He is referring to the engine.

[@claudiomarangone614]

@@CelatraPardon… I meant- engine power. The development of engine power on the V10

[@OxBlitzkriegxO]

@@Celatra the V10s weighed LESS than the V6, bot the car AND the engine. dont be a potato

[@NoahBClark15]

Great video Ermin, as always, but Monza was a poor track of choice. I think it is generally well known that the modern cars top end speed is not its strong suit. I would have gone more a more mixed up track like Spa, with decent straight, but still plenty of places for modern cars to show their true strengths as well.

[@tysopiccaso8711]

Ermin moment

[@McBeamer94]

"Not their strong suit" and then the DRS opens. Ok. Monza is just fine.

[@unfortunately_fortunate2000]

yeah 350 kmh down the main straight at monza proves modern cars arent good in a straight line, oh wait... monza is the perfect track to show off a cars power, unlike spa which is a power and handling circuit, monza is purely a power circuit, you're only going to do well there if youve got enough POWAH BABEH

[@fckcps8054]

@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 if f1 was just about power we wouldn't se such a big emphasis on aerodynamics, right now they are more important than raw hp

[@coliimusic]

I think the corners at Monza do tend to emphasize the weight difference in the cars, mainly due to the long braking zone.

[@thepsychologist8159]

14:38 "Now imagine if those cars weren't on grooved slicks made intentionally to slow them down'. - Yep, absolutely. And you'd find if they were on slicks, Montoya's pre-qualifying time at Monza 2004 would still stand as the fastest lap instead of Hamilton in his Hybrid Mercedes on slicks.

[@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189]

Except it wouldn’t

[@brubrulani]

@@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189 give it an 8 speed gear box and it would destroy the obese Mercedes

[@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189]

@@brubrulani except it wouldn’t

[@brubrulani]

@@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189 except it would

[@WXSTANG]

They are changing the tracks all the time to make them safer, remove barriers, etc which makes the track generally faster. A modern day F1 will get trouced by an older V10 with modern day electronic systems.

[@DeathclawsTheDragon2003]

I think the main reason the V10 cars are faster on the straights is because... since the hybrid cars gained a huge Downforce gain in 2017, it caused ALOT of drag, and drag decreases top speed, however the V10s ran on a lower downforce setup, therefore less drag, so they had a higher top speed

[@ferea_896]

Or maybe the Engine had something to do with it as well. And the hundreds of horsepower they needed to take of as well

[@Ethanius_Zeus]

@@ferea_896 The hybrid V6 engine is the most powerful F1 engine in history at 1050 hp

[@stefdem1533]

​@@Ethanius_Zeus No BMWs were up to 1200hp

[@huh0123]

@@Ethanius_ZeusBMW inline 4’s made over 1100

[@dod_the_angel]

​@@huh0123 that was in qualifying only. They had, at best, horsepower in the high 800s in race trim and that was touch and go for reliability. The modern engines can make the 1,050bhp quoted reliably in quali or race trim. Probably more if the teams decide to let them off the leash like Mercedes did for Lewis in the last few races of 2021

[@nuggy4051]

Those V10's were peak F1, I grew up watching them and they are absolute rockets that have not been matched by the later gens

[@jacobhanekamp2534]

Uhhhhh................. Whos gonna tell him that the Top Speed of the V10s was the one good thing about it, and that at any other track, the modern cars would dominate

[@nuggy4051]

@@jacobhanekamp2534 the lap records held up for over 10 years and on sims I found they feel more nimble and have more mechanical grip in low speed turns

[@jamesmckeary8428]

are the mercedes 2017 cars faster? , i thought they were the fastest f1 car ever

[@dohvakin68]

@@jamesmckeary8428 i think, the fastest f1 would be the mercedes w11 from 2020, it was a rocket ship glued to the track.

[@bjarnonegames5394]

@@nuggy4051 and yet Still today most of those records get beaten by cars twice as heavy as the v10s were, they were arrows on straights but on every other occasion especially acceleration of today the hybrids win clearly, also they are much more environmentally friendly than the pure gas pump that was the v10

[@JReaLBiz86]

As a sound engineer, I LOVE the little added touch with the audio filter on your voice for the in-car bits. Well played, HamSandwich. Well played.

[@officialvisaural]

He does mention he’s a sound engineer around 8m30 ish.

[@JReaLBiz86]

@@officialvisaural you're right! I should've said as a "fellow" engineer. Still it's a neat little touch

[@officialvisaural]

@@JReaLBiz86 Yeah I was refreshed to watch a video with good audio mixing.

[@trusstingod]

The kimi comments are a great touch

[@jackryan4313]

@@officialvisaural I read your comment as I got to him saying "I'm a sound engineer"😂

[@TheOtherNeutrino]

Amazing... Kimi's McLaren made it without blowing up!

[@さぼせんぱい]

Surprising that the reliability of that MP4/20 is as realiable as the F2002 lol.

[@mcfowler1675]

@@さぼせんぱい an equally unreliable car in general. In terms of outright pace, Kimi was quicker than Alonso in 05, if it was more reliable then he would’ve won the championship that year

[@destynova106]

Suzuka 2005 Kimi ❤

[@RBMapleLeaf]

@@mcfowler1675 Wasn’t the MP4-18 (2003) even worse? I mean there were so many opportunities Kimi could’ve got points had his engine not fail him I believe almost 50% of the 17 races that year.

[@Marcodj83]

​@@RBMapleLeafthe mp4-18 did not even made it to the start of a gp

[@AugmentedGravity]

I honestly don’t care wether the modern F1 cars are faster than the V10’s or not. That sound alone is more than enough for me to much much much rather want to see those cars race than the vacuum cleaners that have now. That is not to diminish the amazing and ungodly hard work that has been and is being put into them, but from a pure entertainment point of view, these heavy, lazy and tame sounding cars don’t have a single thing to put up with compared to those V10’s. Especially those legends like the R25 and F2004. For example, in 2020, when Alonso got to drive his championship winning F1 car, the R25, around Abu Dhabi, i could not stop watching that little clip over and over again. I think one of the comments on that video summarised the whole thing perfectly. «Watching Alonso drive his R25 around the track for a 2 minute video was more entertaining than the entire current F1 season.»

[@CptFlasheart]

The reason theyre so fast on the straights besides the epic 19000rpm V10's is they are less wide with thinner tyres, makes a massive difference in drag.

[@michaelmeier9085]

they are using grooved tires “makes you wonder how fast they are on slick tires“ - this is VERY easy to find out, in content manager chose the car and hit “replace tires“ and you can fit anything on any car! Please make a video with mid 2000 f1 cars on slik tires and also put that record breaking endurance porsche in it! (And put one ai with your car in the grid so we can see how far off the ai pace frim a human is, I think if humans drove on that race in alonsis and kimis car tgey would be a lot quicker but its hard to tell by how much if you dont have an ai competing with your car)

[@lucabuzz2678]

I just tried that on my content manager, it doesn’t work… It keeps telling me to “hold shift to swap tyres” tried that as Well, didn’t work either. Would you care to explain more in depth how you are supposed to do it?

[@michaelmeier9085]

@@lucabuzz2678 hey, I just tried it and it didnt work for me either. I didnt use cm in at least half a year so maybe I forgot how it works but judging from my internet search this broke some time in 2021. You can try earlier version of content manager from 2019 or use the “generate new tires“ option in the replace tires menu.

[@lucabuzz2678]

@@michaelmeier9085 yeah…

[@michaelmeier9085]

@@lucabuzz2678 I made it! I had the feeling something special was necessary to make this tire swap work so I went back and played around a bit and it worked: Click replace tires - then on the right side where it lists all tires left click any tire and hold - then drag them to the left side where the cars current tires are-keep holding left click and right click under the #1 - release both mouse keys- then a delete box will appear - while this box is open - drag the tires you want to have from the right to the left. And now they are accepted. Try it several times it needs some practice :) Write me if it works for you!

[@jackryan4313]

@@michaelmeier9085 the fact that both of y'all have the same color for y'all's profile pic...😂

[@andyventures6574]

Mansell's 92 Williams should have been in there . The pinnacle of technology. Senna's MP4/2 as well.

[@keso_de_bola9174]

Senna never drove the McLaren-Porsche MP4/2. He drove the McLaren-Honda MP4/4.

[@AlexandreCardinal50]

Man I loved those Kimi edits 😂 the water bottle 😂

[@Alexanderlich90]

Absolutely amazing 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Cannonballdrive]

I literally slid down from the chair on the floor while laughing out loud.

[@smoloms]

Imagine the W11 with a V10. the insane aero and the insane engines.

[@antoniohagopian213]

Would be slower

[@zeroatlast]

​@@antoniohagopian213 lmao

[@alessandro7805]

Insane favoritism too, Ferrari presented DAS to MaFIA in 2018 and they rejected it.

[@chumleyk]

The W11 was a shit heap of an ugly bastard to put that engine in.

[@cosmic4791]

@@antoniohagopian213no because they v10 is lighter revs higher and makes more power plus take modern engineering in account it would put these fucking lawn mowers to shame

[@mariusbrabus]

I'm a bit bias on this, since I grew up with the V12 era F1 cars, so those sound a lot better to me than the V10s. Also, the added Kimi antics on the video had me laughing hard! Great video!

[@eamh2002]

The late 1990's to early 2000's were the best era after 1980's turbos. No ABS, no traction control, beryllium engine parts, 900-1000hp from 3litre v10, 19-20 000rpm, no max rev limit in the rules.

[@STREET24000]

The cars from 2001-2007 actually did have traction control.

[@bertlemoi431]

i really miss the v10 days... the sounds man. the sounds...

[@tobycuckson9055]

My only problem with this is that the mods for the older cars may be less accurate because they are made by single people unlike the Race Sim Studio official 2021 f1 car

[@PlatinumAgar]

Well the mid 2000s cars are made by a well known team if I remember correctly, so that is really all that matters as they are the fastest cars

[@jasoncoates1835]

The RSS cars (physics-wise) are made by one person too. That's... not a valid criticism. What is valid is that very little hard data exists in the public realm for most of these which will, inevitably, lead to problems with realism. Good point poorly made. ;)

[@Machinae_overture]

@@PlatinumAgar all you have to do is look at lap records to find out which cars are the fastest and it's 2017-2021 by an absolute mile

[@MrJr1976]

@@Machinae_overture Well that's not apples to apples. The V10 cars didn't have slicks or DRS. Yas Marina 2020 proved that the V10 cars on slicks still had the ability to keep up. And that's with an engine nearly 2 decades old limited to a certain RPM. Imagine if more R&D had been put into the V10. No doubt such a monster would scorch the modern cars built to be as micromanaged as possible.

[@Machinae_overture]

@@MrJr1976 yeah..... but it wasn't built differently...... so it's slower....................

[@kaleandoscope]

The cars these days have grown so much bigger, they old 2000s car were so powerful and nimble. And the V10... I get goosebumps listening to such symphony!

[@mattmccaffery3473]

Is this real or a game

[@gotavideo]

0:03 This will look nice for wallpaper

[@Higherselffitness]

OMG... I love the kimi radio reaction, “JUST LEAVE ME ALONE I KNOW WHAT TO DO” 🤣🤣 he is a legend will miss him 😣 in F1

[@nanatzaya]

I wonder how this would've ended if it was for a full race distance. Also lots of the additional weight of modern cars is safety related. Impact and crash structures, the halo and wheel tethers. Also Monza is very geared towards the older cars. Let them all have a go at Silverstone sometime.

[@Silverarrows445]

this guy has his clear biases. Not one mercedes car from the hybrid era, the cars that won 8 championships. instead he puts a ferrari 😂😂 this guys an idiot.

[@clockner]

5:09 classic Kimi 😂😂😂

[@Deem_kartinvdb]

True

[@JustAbidTooMuch]

Okay but clockner being an F1 fan is not something I expected to see 😂

[@chrispraz877]

The best description I've heard of the hybrids vs the v10's is; "the Hybrids are faster, but they're not quicker".

[@Idejxhcjcjvvkchgvuv]

Can a 10 year old girl beat Mike Tyson?

[@AshwinVijayakumar2430]

No

[@ouns5192]

It could try i guess....

[@Unapersonaconunmicroscopio]

It’s more like: Can a 10 year old girl beat an adult woman?

[@mystique4312]

reasonable analogy

[@operantstranger2150]

like can jake paul 27 win mike tyson?

[@chejlr]

I can't believe you left out the car that held the record at Monza for more than 15 years. The BMW Williams v10.

[@dogi233]

I was also looking for it :)

[@ssj3gotenks589]

Juan Pablo Montoya’s car?

[@alkispanou3781]

Plus the best f1 v10 ever made by far was M. Schumacher's ferrari F2004...but no comment..!

[@johnnycab8986]

@@alkispanou3781 F2004 was a better car but the BMW engine in the Williams was a monster.

[@alkispanou3781]

@@johnnycab8986 f1 is not just the engine is the whole package plus the F2004's engine produced over 970 hp which was at the top of the list along with the BMW engines.

[@TCCcompetition]

Only OGs know this is a re upload

[@filipruml]

Right? I was a bit confused

[@tmoshamo]

I thought i had seen this video before👀

[@rickdubbink]

I knew it!

[@ShadowRaptor42]

@@tmoshamo same

[@MRacer001]

Why was it reuploaded? I knew I had seen this before

[@k41zen12]

Ermin what a brilliant video. Made me laugh so much with the edits from Kimi after what has been a tough week. Genius. More, more, more 👏🏼🙏

[@jcoulter43]

I was thinking the same things! Ermin, you are a genius. Can't wait to see what you do next! God bless and Merry Christmas 🎄😎🎸

[@Coolgamer400]

those V10 reving into another dimension is a charme on its own.

[@jrock9687]

Juan Pablo Montoyas record stood there at Monza for so long in that Williams V10 BMW. On grooved Bridgestones no less. Miss the screaming V10's so much! And as an IndyCar fan over F1 the days of the 1000HP twin turbo methanol breathing 256 MPH top speed CART monsters are of a bygone era. Its looking more and more like the early 2000K's was the peak 'Golen Era' of motorsports that will never be seen again.

[@totowolffstable4044]

It feels like F1 is getting slower but isn't the W11 the fastest car in F1 history?

[@rak7791]

The old f1 cars in this video are quite unrealistic the w11 would destroy any f1 car ever

[@matheussouza3751]

@@rak7791 its the track, the v10s are still unbeatable in top speed. Any other track and the 2021 cars would have won it easily

[@rak7791]

@@matheussouza3751 yeah i agree

[@harukrentz435]

Today's F1 dont allowed for refuel, how do you think teams cope with that?

[@CodeineAbdulJabbar]

@@harukrentz435 efficiency

[@Moiiiiii]

it feels great seeing Kimi Raikkonen still killing it.

[@zmirc]

The parts with Kimi are legendary 😅😂

[@ElectricalEcho]

I stopped watching F1 after the V10 era and did not regret my decision until this day.

[@adilO.o]

Very cool video !!! Wow so many memories watching this. I think F1 V10s of 2004 are the quickest ever. They had weird limitation on the tyres, 4 stripes in the middle to slow them. With slick tires they would have gone seconds faster. And in race mode as refuelling was allowed, they were absolute sprint machine lapping 5 to 6 seconds faster than modern cars. Alonso, Button, Schumacher, Barrichello etc looked completely destroyed at the end of races. It was another time, different context, different issues but it was nice 😎🙌🏻

[@giovannifrrri5495]

Okay, but imagine the V10s in today's cars with all the technology and same dimensions, they'd definitely be faster...

[@giovannifrrri5495]

Same tyre compounds

[@somethinganything4864]

wouldn't be faster the new engines make more power

[@giovannifrrri5495]

@@somethinganything4864 the total package, yes, the actual engine, no. It's not hard, more fuel = more power, but lower efficiency, yes

[@raskolnikov6443]

@@somethinganything4864 no

[@TheTeremaster]

They'd be slower, you can't fit the modern package in the cars with a v10. You'd have to strip away the MGU which would leave you with 900hp compared to the v6 package with a whopping 1300hp

[@dakshpagar6718]

The sound of that v10 gives the feels like as the rpms increase we feel that it's going faster and faster but i. The hybrid car's it's just feels we're going at a constant speed as we cannot feel the increase in speed and rpm as in the v10

[@alfredoelbombo3423]

imagine the old v10 engines combined with today's aerodynamics. it would be wonderful to hear and see. that would be a BEAST!!!!

[@danesebruno]

The V10s wouldnt have enough torque to push the cars thru the air. Top speed would be around 300 kp

[@100ksubscribersandipostvid5]

​@@danesebruno due to the lack of tuebos?

[@100ksubscribersandipostvid5]

​@@danesebruno turbos plus hybrid?

[@danesebruno]

@@100ksubscribersandipostvid5 The V10s were designed for small, lightweight cars. The harmony was perfect. The modern engines have a LOT more torque due to the turbos and electric motors

[@midorithefestivegardevoir6727]

Kimi asking if his water is being wasted because the hose is not connected: Pit crew: YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE DRINK

[@Griffin283]

This is interesting to see as every single speed record set in F1 has been during the Hybrid Era

[@Clovis5119]

lol yeah, this video is for the most part a demonstration of how inaccurate many of these mods are. But also this is a very setup-dependent track and comparisons are pretty pointless without working on that.

[@magnusVarblomst]

At one lap yes. In a full race the v10s would finish ahead.

[@Griffin283]

@@magnusVarblomst they literally wouldn’t. They were slower as much as it hurts your nostalgia. Plus they’d have to put as their tanks were big enough.

[@magnusVarblomst]

@@Griffin283 I am comparing results of clean races, for example spain 2005 which was the last year of v10s, and spain 22 or 23. Race times are quicker back in 2005. You have to take into account they were faster in straights and the cars were way smaller and lighter. Tires were better too, since it was a performance competition between bridgestone and michelin, not degradation management for entertainment. Perhaps you are partially right and in some other circuits with more high speed corners v10 have worse results. Or if tire rules were different now they'd be faster all-around.

[@Griffin283]

@@magnusVarblomst The groved tires were miles slower than modern slicks.. did you ever watch the demo of Alonso driving his championship car on them? It was a missile in comparison to what it was back then. Also, the Spanish GP isn’t a good argument because the 2023 qualifying times were much faster than the 2005 lap times. Not really sure what your point is? Sure they’re slightly faster in a straight line, but miles off in the high speed. They’re not going to be faster on many, is any circuits. Maybe the likes of Baku, Singapore or Monaco. But not on a traditional circuit

[@fullborev8906]

This was fun and intense to watch. Well done and great video! Those V10 era F1 cars are truly one of a kind. Here, and in real life. 👌

[@michaelmeier9085]

You can give the old cars any tires you want: In content manager click replace tires-then on the right side where it lists all tires left click any tires and - drag them to the left side where the cars current tires are-keep holding left click and right click under the #1 - and release both mouse keys - a delete box appears leave it open - now you can drag and drop any tire from right to left. Sounds complicated but it is easier than it sounds!

[@saltbjorn]

I mean no, the cornering speeds are all wrong with a lot of these cars and the downforce produced by the modern ones is unparalleled

[@fredsas12]

Modern F1 cars actually have less downforce, but more weight and questionably "better" tyres. A large part of the so called "improving the racing" in modern F1 has been trying to make overtaking easier and safer. That means less high cornering efficiency (less downforce), more mistakes, but better slow cornering speed (higher mechanical grip) through the tyres.

[@saltbjorn]

@@fredsas12 look at the size of the cars and tell me there’s less downforce lad they’re got like twice the square area of bodywork to generate downforce with, it’s actually the low speed corners where the modern cars are slower due to being lazier and heavier

[@Rick-sb1rg]

@@fredsas12 lmao

[@sulphurous2656]

@@fredsas12 The land barges post 2017 are only faster in medium speed corners.

[@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189]

@@sulphurous2656 the w11 in qualifying trim would disagree

[@oliverjames6913]

Monza is a good track for those old V10s. You’d have blitz them with a more aero dependent track.

[@facundoferrero2775]

_01:14__ Mick Schumaspin is that you?_

[@viirtualiized2495]

Another Ermin video, let's go.

[@svenzerx8490]

Only legends know this is a reupload

[@SirOmak]

This confirms that I'm not crazy

[@nocturnemusique]

2015 Ferrari would’ve had the equivalent of today’s soft tyres; they were just painted white

[@artysanmobile]

“Kimi, the bar is not open, I repeat, the bar is NOT open.”

[@Rock-Bottem1982]

Wow, as an Oval track guy, this was really entertaining actually

[@PrinceAlhorian]

I miss the banshee wails of the the V12 and V10 era.

[@googlreviews7813]

These V10 sounds are chilling. I miss those days.

[@zeenzuan2494]

Ciruit Gilles Villeneuve en Montréal 2000

[@unfortunately_fortunate2000]

while its a good visual comparison it is worth keeping in mind all the 90's & 2000's v10s and v8s are mods & some of them (like the ferrari 310b) are way too fast and others too slow

[@superfast30]

The V10's and V12's were peak F1. Absolute monsters!

[@johntechwriter]

A uniquely entertaining comparison, thanks for going to the trouble. I'm sure dozens of people have already asked, but I would like to see a comparison race between a few of the top 5 F1 cars and the same number of fastest-ever LeMans prototypes on this fantastic Monza track.

[@ferea_896]

In truth as we see with the track records that go down each year. In real life with similar tires the results would probably be the more recent the farther up the grid you would be. It’s not only about the engine, even though it makes a difference it’s not all. And with the changes to smaller engines aerodynamics solutions were implemented that completely changed the landscape year by year. Of course there would be black swan situations. But as a rule of thumb.

[@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB]

now imagine a 3L v10 designed with the latest materials and knowledge, with electric motors, modern aero and modern rubber...

[@mikkolappalainen_]

They need to do it, every one would love it but shm that they wont.

[@justadummy8076]

This would have been cooler with the fastest cars from each generation

[@epistte]

They needed to have a Brabham BMW turbo BT-52.

[@benjamincausley5866]

Great to see one of my long time fave channels get referenced by Jimmy!! Remember when ACC came out and you were learning sim racing

[@BennnWJK]

V10s with slick tyres would be absolute monsters

[@airadve]

I honestly think that we will see inline 4 formula 1 cars in 2030-40

[@andreagiagnorio5775]

Don't forget that in a race moderna F1 doesn't refuel It means 1 minute ahead at the end

[@highoctanegames]

Id love to see a race between the fastest modern F1 car, the fastest V10 F1 car and one of those 1300+ hp F1 cars in real life

[@goyolake]

It would be fun but they'd get absolutely smashed by the modern F1 cars

[@highoctanegames]

@@goyolake true true

[@highoctanegames]

@@goyolake However the f2004 with slicks would be interesting against modern f1

[@alexoliver2608]

This is what happens when you have cars that are 140kg+ lighter than a modern car with very similar power. Also next year the cars are getting even heavier.

[@zygbeee8563]

Theyre getting more downforce do they should be faster on some circuits

[@varuntomer1725]

Simple more weight means increase power of engine.

[@alexoliver2608]

@@varuntomer1725 You don’t need a powerful engine if you have a light car.

[@varuntomer1725]

@@alexoliver2608 weight cannot be reduced due to some reasons than you will have to increase power that's only option with today's cars.

[@morgan21.12]

Imagine seeing a lineup with all those different era f1 cars that would be an amazing race

[@akacicaa]

THE ONE THING no one mentions is how unreliable v10s were compared to now. And how many engines and gearboxes were thrown away through the year. And modern cars are WAAAY more efficent. It's easy to be fast if you don't have to be reliable. And FINNALY, why are drivers not complaining about good old times? Because they race for racing, not for the sound or just pure speed.

[@beausouth2544]

V10's sound incredible. The soundtrack forms a big part of the spectacle.

[@Filholh]

Great video!! Would like to see Williams FW14B and Mclaren's MP4/4 on the grid.

[@Jetkillr]

It's a huge fail to not have these on the grid. Especially the active suspension Williams seeing as that car is considered the peak of F1 car performance (meaning they had to start intentionally slowing down cars at that point).

[@norwegianmountainbiker236]

I thought I was having a massive Deja Vu moment when I first saw this

[@jstoli996c4s]

12:45 *All the time you have to leave a space!!*

[@Slimbo]

They’re all just as fast but faster in different ways. The older cars are lighter and are faster on straights whereas the newer cars are faster in the corners and heavier so slower on straights.

[@atzberger1]

Heavier so slower on straights. xD open a physics book m8.

[@senor_mezclador]

Not sure on the decapitator/sans amp type radio vocal with the on boards Ermin... maybe slightly too far for me but good on you for trying something new and different. Great content as always buddy 🤘🏻

[@QuantumS1ngularity]

It all makes sense now. I was wondering why modern F1 races and cars look so slow - it's just because i'm used to the monsters that the early 2000s cars were. Smaller and less powerful engines with bulkier and heavier cars can't really bring something faster. Really miss the speed of the Golden F1 Era, but what i miss even more is the sound. Those howling V10 will forever stay not only in my mind, but my heart and soul as well.

[@thomasmurray3920]

What kind of vacuum cleaner we sound like-hilarious!

[@haroooga0079]

The line of 'the cars of my youth. Im officially old now' won my like. Im in the same boat 🤣

[@marso70]

This was better watching than most of the current races on TV. I mourn the glorious V10 sound

[@EdisonDiesel]

Should've done this on spa or something. This just measures straight line prowess

[@garzi93it]

It would be interesting to see on any track where there haven't been changes (or even on a single curve which hasn't been changed) how pilots have changed their lines through different eras.

[@JayB2]

V10'S allowed to rev as high as possible would be even more insane. The V10'S were rev limited to 19,000 rpms. But at that time BMW & Ford Cosworth said they could make them rev up to 22,000 rpms. Now that would be nuts!!!

[@archie4oz]

This race needed a few more significantly specific cars: - a Williams FW11/11C w/Mansell or Piquet - a Benetton B186 driven by Berger - a McLaren MP 4/4 driven by Prost - a McLaren MP 4/6 driven by Senna - a Williams FW24 or FW25 driven by Montoya

[@Super-Godzilla99]

Too compare it in real life it is easy, take alonsos run in his 2005 winning car, in 2020 where he drove it with slicks on it in an cruising speed, his fastest lap in abu dabi was a 1:39, 2 seconds slower than the pole time of that time. And that on a dirty track with Medium tyres in an cruising speed. Imagine he had soft tyres on and was pushing it too the Limit on a good not dirty track, he would be way faster than the pole time in 2020. People today wouldn't even believe it how slow modern f1 cars are in comparision with these monsters. And think of it he didn't have drs in this car and no extra power he can use, and still he could go faster than modern f1 cars. If that is not impresive and shows what f1 had become over the years then i don't know. He was even faster than the fastest race lap in 2020 and that in an cruising speed in his 2005 car with slicks on. Reality shows it, 2000's f1 cars with slicks on are faster than modern f1 cars. Nowone can deny that when you saw how easy he drove does laps back then in 2020.

[@nilshartl883]

Those tyres he had were also demo tyres

[@mdtxtdi]

But Renault was not prepared to be fast, just for demonstration, something commemorative. This also happens at festivals, the cars receive a standard show preparation, with few spare parts or performance options.

[@Super-Godzilla99]

@@mdtxtdi thats what i mean. He is not even pushing too the Limit, the car is not pushed too the limits and he is still faster then modern f1 cars without it.

[@JoeBlowUK]

To make it more realistic, you should have restricted all of the other cars, so you had at least a 20 mph speed advantage on the straights. 🤣

[@Ermz]

I'd have needed to run the Mercedes livery for that.

[@eager537]

A reason why the v10 mclaren was so much faster in the straights because it had less complex aero and obviously the v10

[@MDDeGrande1994]

And less weight too

[@sil.o75]

5:39 aged beautifully for ferrari fans :/

[@trumpstinyhands]

Bring back the mid 80s with turbos

[@tradesman1000]

Thumbs up for that Ermin. Good comparison. Kim’i’s a legend 😂 bring back the v10’s I say! Iv lost interest in modern hybrid F1. The sport has lost its soul.

[@jamescampbell720]

90's - mid 2000's F1 cars are IMO the best generations. this video was like watching the giant orange schoolbus try to catch actual racing cars.

[@Beaulopronouncedbolo]

I would love to see them against a merc w11 or 12

[@kennyakins875]

Made no sense to do all of this and the W11 is not being used.

[@Warhorse1UK]

As soon as I didn't see the W11, I knew this video was on some bullshit.

[@davemorin-if3wk]

in 1968 jimmy clark in a lotus H-16 set the lap record at spa with the old 22mile circuit, although that old circuit has been closed down, its basically still there, in 2008 they removed the barriers of the old spa circuit so that michael schummacher could break it in a v-10 car. he came close but no cigar, missed it by 1.1 seconds

[@ramstutorial8894]

the commentary, the realism of this game, the sounds, its incredible

[@loux4294]

I dont think the modern f1 would lose in reallife cause what they gain in thr corners is insane

[@kevinlow69420]

Alonso Renault Yas marina, watch and cope

[@danilonden3782]

@@kevinlow69420 he was slower then modern f1 cars though.

[@kevinlow69420]

@@danilonden3782 give it electric motors and Drs and all the bells and whistles the modern F1 has

[@danilonden3782]

@@kevinlow69420 well, thats not really the point though right? We are comparing the cars. Nobody is doubting the v10 engines where more powerful, just that those cars arent faster around a circuit then modern f1 cars. l

[@kevinlow69420]

@@danilonden3782 what are you talking about, all modern F1 fanboys shit on the V10s, so what you're saying is it's advance modern aerodynamics that make a modern F1 car faster and not the powerplant?

[@anthonyk6062]

The 2020 cars were the closest things to those mid-2000 cars. 2021 cars seemed to be up to 4-5 seconds slower than 2020.

[@lewisshepherd7786]

Bruh what are you talking about they literally beat half, if not all of the lap records this year

[@dbabu51]

2020 was just the fastest ever. It was so good at aero. 2014 to 2016 car was the fastest in a straight line with that amazing engine and simple aero

[@danieldm5705]

I'd love to see a v10 with their sound, size and weight with slicks and updated aero. A car like that could break lap records!

[@yese2769]

If they were more fuel economic I would love it but this may sound stupid but I’m slightly worried about global warming and v10s just dump fuel like no tomorrow

[@dashforcash6555]

​@yese2769 global warming lmfao. Pay more taxes, and it will go away.

[@roku_nine]

That's just stupid! Current F1 car with past tech that got banned like traction control, active suspension, much lower weight limit, refuel, etc would be undeniably the fastest F1 car ever.

[@oZyn]

One has to realize that we are making comparably fast cars with notably smaller 6 cylinder hybrid engines. If we tried to make the fastest track car possible today it would be deadly like the Red Bull X2010 prototype. There is a point where just because the car is faster, that doesn't make the racing better. The engineering is better across the entire car. Just because it isn't faster in one lap, doesn't mean it's a downgrade. You can see the effects of the improved aerodynamics in the high-speed corners where the McLaren is able to maintain a much higher cornering speed. If the cars had V10s today they'd have to make them all-wheel drive or bring back traction control because they'd be uncontrollably fast. The cars are more advanced, safer, have some interesting new features, and F1 continues to change year to year to stay interesting. The ground effect rules are quite ground breaking indeed. I do wish that there was less of a gap between constructors in terms of speed. It is frustrating watching the same cars win repeatedly.

[@BernatNacente]

4:16 Rothmans?!!!??? That's 1997 Williams World Champion car driven by Villeneuve.

[@postbox9818]

Great idea - could you please repeat that on a different track with more downforce? That might end up with a completely different result, as Monza is pretty special in this regard. Would be great to compare.