POV: It's a Formula 1 Race But You're in a V10 on Modern Tyres

[@evofreak1304]

These engines in combination with KERS and the DRS system , combined with today's aerodynamics, would be absolutely insane . And nearly 20 years of development , they would rev to the absolute stratosphere.

[@CAI_7]

How about V10 split turbo(With no PSI limit, just like the 70s. Just run one engine for one lap), Remove fuel flow rate limit. pre-chamber ignition, Morden aero 2004 chassis, DRS, 2022 width slick soft, KERS. With only 2 laps of fuel. Moveable areo parts(front wing? Bargeboard) Double DRS, Double defuser. So 2000+ horse power? 660 KG? With ridiculous down force? LOL Edit: So let me sort it out again. 2004 chassis. 3.2L V10 split tubo(unlimited air/fuel flow rate) . engine that only last one lap. Impove the front wing and bargeboards a little bit.(like the 2020 cars, use turbulence to seal the floor better). No size limit on the rear diffuser. pre-chamber ignition. Slick tyre. Tiny fuel tank(lighter). Just make the whole rear wing DRS then(hyper car style).

[@christians1018]

@@CAI_7 Chad V10 behavior

[@FonikosGazmas]

@@CAI_7 I think thats what we call overengineering... And I absolutely adore it. Sign me up too lets create a monster. XD

[@foxgaming76yt24]

@@CAI_7 So basically a time trial monster

[@foxgaming76yt24]

@@FonikosGazmas Most things that are overengineered are impractical majority of the time, but that doesn't mean I don't want to see stuff be overengineered lmao, seeing a 50-100 million dollar time trial open wheel car lapping any track would be mesmirizing

[@justin_dunn46]

The older car really does look tiny compared to the new ones. Damn I wish we could get these cars back

[@alunesh12345]

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[@lucasalvestricolor]

They could even compete in Monaco

[@justin_dunn46]

@@lucasalvestricolor I know right 😂 imagine that

[@Da_one_tl]

I believe in 2026 they’ve been reported to get smaller again

[@venomau5speedz]

Bio-fuels 🌳 🌱 in the future mate it might be “environmentally” possible 🤷‍♂️ who knows ;)

[@ayrtonsenna6600]

I don't fear anything but I fear a f2004 with slicks behind me

[@calebmatthews4365]

Won't be behind u for long

[@ayrtonsenna6600]

@@calebmatthews4365 unless I did a slight modifications on mine,like that 300k f2004

[@calebmatthews4365]

@@ayrtonsenna6600 then they will behind you for a bit longer lol

[@ayrtonsenna6600]

@@calebmatthews4365 it also has slicks thought

[@calebmatthews4365]

@@ayrtonsenna6600 exactly

[@Incommensurabilities]

Wow I didn't know Ralph demonstrated the combination of modern tyres on V10 F1, epic!

[@sigmablock]

Alonso did that as well in Abu Dhabi with his R25.

[@BurtSampson]

I had heard somewhere before that the modern cars wouldn't work as well with full slicks since they were designed with the grooved tires in mind. I guess Ralph's lap shits on that idea.

[@peergroth4563]

@@sigmablock I belive his run was on demo tyres, so less grip then the real f1 tyre. But I might be very wrong here

[@R9naldo]

Ralf Schumacher did it with limited HP and slicks and matched the best modern time lol

[@afoxwithahat7846]

@@BurtSampson it didn't

[@peeturpain9379]

2022 cars like 2014 are extremely early in their dev cycle and thus fairly slow. A better comparison would be with the 2020 cars which were at the peak of their dev cycle, just like F2004 was.

[@silvioantonio6952]

Big true

[@Rebellenunion]

Next time hopefully we get it!

[@kewinpalmer8284]

Why was 2020 faster than 2021?

[@sauravsinha8875]

@@kewinpalmer8284some regulation changes in 21

[@fqezrshyrtqzfrzesqf8696]

True, in 2020, pole was taken by Bottas in 1:02:939. 1:03:720 in 2021 by Verstappen. + these cars are heavier cause they have more security features than F2004

[@cahill22]

Watched Ralf's onboard and he wasn't even really pushing. Imagine if he had....

[@houseking9211]

I don't think the videos that I've seen were his push laps, the fastest one I saw him drive from an onboard was like a 1:11, but imagine if it was a driver that was more used to those cars, +100-150 bhp, the 2004 car instead, and had softer rubber

[@jurekgadzinowski2895]

@@houseking9211 Imagine F2002 or F2004 on supersofts or ultrasofts(idk if it is how they were called)

[@houseking9211]

@@jurekgadzinowski2895 I think f1 has both now, but that'd be insane

[@peeturpain9379]

@@jurekgadzinowski2895 Would still be destroyed by the W11.

[@valkeitos]

@@jurekgadzinowski2895 Hypersofts

[@FW25]

The crazy thing about Ralphs lap is that the setup would be nowhere near as dialled in as it would be in a proper quali session. months of simulation work goes into each track these days so imagine the laptime with 100+ people working to shave off as musch time as possible

[@Wafflecombo54]

Imagine a multi gen f1 car race irl Like a car from each generation from say 2000s-2022

[@ja-kidnb6416]

there are actually real races with older cars from the 60s-80s!

[@crismairo]

BOSS GP is what you are looking for

[@lorenzograndini2731]

@@crismairo Ye, but BOSS GP doesn't have live streams

[@alunesh12345]

Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(John 3:16)🥳❤️😁❤️😇❤️

[@blazi2293]

I want to see the 2014 shitboxes getting lapped 5 times by early 2000 cars

[@reisanibal1]

People forget that current power units need to last 7-8 race distances. If you tune them to only last for 1 race like the V10's back in the day, they will be much much faster.

[@R9naldo]

Thats because of the ridiculous cost of current engines. 1 turbo hybrid costs the same as about 20 NA V10s. If you really want to extract maximum power from the V6 Turbo Hybrid, remove the hybrid system because it quite literally does not do anything, its just a political statement. We've had Turbo V6s in the past produce 1600 hp. However most would prefer NA V10s that give instant feedback, are cheaper and sound heavenly

[@Bahamuttiamat]

@@R9naldo That is simply untrue. The costs of rnd for the v10's was just as insane as the v6 hybrids. And unlike today, with the addition of tobacco money, the development was unlimited.

[@R9naldo]

@@Bahamuttiamat a simple NA engine is always gonna be cheaper than a Turbocharged engine with a whole hybrid system (MGU-h, MGU-k and ERS).

[@Bahamuttiamat]

@@R9naldo Correct. However the amount of money teams were throwing at engine development was absurd back then. Ferrari was bringing something like 8 to 10 engines per race event!!

[@R9naldo]

@@Bahamuttiamat Maybe the top level teams, yes, however not as much as current teams. But the key thing is that the competitive balance was not as bad as today, smaller teams could still afford to run independantly (unlike today). And teams brought loads of engines because again the engines were cheaper. 1 turbo hybrid costs as much as like 20 NA engines

[@charlesadams455]

if the FIA wants to make F1 more green then plan the season better to make races closer together throughout the colander. Put the V10's v12's back in , the cars are a very small part of F1's carbon footprint and infinitesimally small for the whole world

[@hermy5086]

The calender doesn't matter, in 90% of cases the teams go back to their home base between races, they don't go directly from race to race

[@davidmerz3978]

@@hermy5086 the people yes, but many parts of the equipment not.

[@Jan-wz9dq]

I absolutely love these videos with the old f1 cars, they are hilarious😂

[@viirtualiized2495]

Putting that slick tired V10 monster up against the 2020 cars, which are the fastest in history on one lap, would be interesting. Just… 1v1, F2004 on slicks vs 2020 RSS Formula Hybrid.

[@michaelkeha]

Would be interesting though I would curious what a modern team could pull out of a pure V10 something tells me if you put that in the 04 car it would shatter records

[@JohnLawley24v]

​@@michaelkehano it already holds the 2004 records. The 2020/2021 cars are simply faster

[@Super-Godzilla99]

alonso did that in 2020 he was just cruising around with his 2005 championship car and was as fast as the 2020 best cars. he was just having fun with it no pushing nothing just slicks on it in abu dabi.

[@eclipsegst9419]

@@JohnLawley24v not at Monza or Shanghai under green :)

[@jcoulter43]

The V10's were incredible! I got to see/hear them twice in person. Words fail. Ermz, you're on fire again. Great video as always. God bless and race on 👍😎🏁

[@MV76]

If you look carefully you can see the Schumi smile smashing those hybrid things…

[@tobytoxd]

Modern F1 cars are 200 kg heavier than the cars 20 years ago to make them safer for the drivers.

[@motorsportfan3202]

Now do it with the increased horsepower

[@voltationmark9159]

Aside from a great video, please make a tutorial/guide on how to get your game looking that stunning. It's just crazy how beautiful watching you race is.

[@GregBallotepitech]

He probably uses Reshade

[@fqeagles21]

@@GregBallotepitech he basically has ACC graphics on AC❤❤❤❤❤

[@f.ema.f]

Apart from the fact that Mick Schumacher went for a spin in exactly the F2004 with slicks in 2020, that's a pretty fun and entertaining video. Good job!

[@XTR_NEELAN]

There is 2014 HP version of this car and it's just wild

[@Jay-nk6dm]

I think there are 2 big reasons why the modern cars seem slower: 1) safety features. Self explanatory 2) refueling. The v10 car doesn’t have a fuel tank in the right size. If these cars raced as is and the v10 had to refuel… well the outcome would be a lot less dramatic

[@adenabbas7684]

Not necessarily, since quali laps are done with very very low fuel and the weight of a mostly empty fuel tank could only give a tenth of time so ralfs lap was fast af, and even in game at the last laps the cars are significantly lighter with low fuel loads

[@TheOtherNeutrino]

One thing to note about the 2004 regs that the F2004 was running with is the fact that they qualify with thr fuel load they start the race with. The F2004 can be outqualified with low fuel glory runs on Saturday. Its not uncommon for the fastest race lap to be faster than the car's qualifying lap back then.

[@nikolatomas5261]

This is amazing editing....and nice to see more V10 fans....what a machine that was👍

[@ethanbrandon8456]

This may not be 100% accurate, but here goes. Kimi's pole (F2008) in Spain on the grooved tyres was a 1:21.813. That was with fuel. Massa set the fastest lap that weekend in Q2 1:20.584 with low fuel. The same year Ferrari tested the slicks during testing in Spain and recorded a time of 1:18.339. That's 2.2 seconds faster than the grooved tyres on Bridgestone Slicks. Also the Qualifying lap times improved in 2011 when Pirelli joined the sport. My guess would be that the V10s would be anywhere from 2.5 - 3 seconds a lap faster on slicks. Think the 2020 cars would still be a bit faster, but it's still amazing how great cars were from 18 years ago.

[@vgbondarev]

Fastest lap from Spanish GP 2022 was a 1:18.750 (Q3, Sharl LeGreg)/1:24.108 (Race, Checo). We've gone backwards.

[@no1washerezz]

they weren't necessarily great, you have to realize that most of why those v10 cars can even bring a candle to 2020 cars is because of the low weight. everything else is drastically superior, from the engine output to the aerodynamics, you name it, they got it. had the regulations in 2020 been as lenient as those in 2004, (no halo, low weight, traction control, no fuel flow limit) those 2004 lap times would be absolutely annihilated.

[@tristan-lp7uw]

@@no1washerezz halo is needed + its dus not even add that mutch weight

[@PinotNoir_]

imagine if they bring back the v10 with smaller displacement like 2.0l or 1.8l v10 with those hybrid system.. or or maybe they should give the teams more than 1 engine to choose like current v6 hybrid, small v8 hybrid, or small v10 hybrid. just add a power limiter so any engine can compete fairly :D it'll make f1 more interesting for sure!

[@saxgarcon734]

I’d love to see a vintage F1 championship, where they make older cars safer. For example, 1970s spec aero and everything, but with 2020s safety standards, so a halo, HANS device, etc… Seeing classic tracks would also be cool.

[@divinasi0n]

Nice work! And hopefully with the inception of fully synthetic fuels, we can come full circle back towards the legendary screamy boi era!

[@drazenbudis7881]

I think there’s a real possibility for that to happen

[@qasprrr6203]

@@drazenbudis7881 yeah I would love it but I guess it won't happen because the manufactures have no reason to make inefficient v10 engines anymore :/

[@fqezrshyrtqzfrzesqf8696]

@@qasprrr6203 for entertainment. This is the way the sport lives so maybe they will do it, at least there is a chance

[@fqezrshyrtqzfrzesqf8696]

v10 cars exist only for entertainment anyways, even the ones who own them doesn't drive them so everyone would be happier if they make a better sound i guess

[@pedromonteiro2644]

That would be amazing! Unfortunately I don't see it happening...

[@06dpa]

Look at that size difference!

[@minuru5940]

w10 with modern aero, tyres, active suspention and drs would be chefs kiss

[@T0MMYMATTH3WS]

My dream is to have the v10 with modern tyres and somehow get drs involved

[@ht-cr3ms]

And modern aero and KERS

[@schakaljr]

It's actually disgusting what happened to f1. When you see how nimble and quick the cars were, you realise what we have lost.

[@calmak11]

Just wait til 2026 when f1 loses 50 percent of its viewership as it turns into a second Formula E series.

[@willbb]

@@calmak11engines will be louder tbf

[@JohnLawley24v]

​@@willbbwho cares? It'll be far slower, maybe barely ahead of F2

[@andreagiagnorio5775]

they won't be able to hit 300 kph in the race, that will be the humiliation for the green lobby brainwashed direction@@willbb

[@andreagiagnorio5775]

+ u have to recharge the battery 4 laps just to shoot a qualy lap, and you have to burn fuel just to charge the battery, the most clown shit ever seen@@willbb

[@MattsPaddock]

"Imagination time" 😂

[@OscarWildYT]

Amazing editing skills mate, and also driving ones 😉 Love this content, thanks for your effort! ❤

[@gregrowe1168]

The biggest advantage to these older cars is the smaller size and weight. The V10 sounds so much cooler but it doesn’t really make more power. Basically about the same but the new cars are so much bigger, they’re going to be slower. The new engines definitely don’t rev as high either. Fuel economy wasn’t a concern back then, now it’s very important. These engines now have to last longer too, also most likely taking away some performance in exchange for reliability.

[@michaelkeha]

Except that's a engine from 04 making that much power with modern advances that same V10 sized engine would be roaring out with vastly more power

[@BrokeAndSquare]

@@michaelkeha Still wouldn't be able to touch the fuel efficiency of the new motors. Not only that, the current PU's are very restricted and have headroom for way more power if they were fuel unrestricted like the old V10's.

[@JohnLawley24v]

If the V10 raced against the hybrids it'd splutter out of fuel about 1/3rd race distance....or fuel save so hard it'd barely do touring car speeds. Even if allowed to refuel to 105kg it will hamstrung. If the modern cars could refuel and use 160kg of fuel they'd eat it alive.

[@petitbiscuit2366]

I like you commentary a lot because when you show first person perspective it’s a radioish sound in your voice

[@Its_Maxie]

I feel like he first did the race and then decided the amount of laps.

[@ICKY427]

like i mentioned on jimmys video, it might be worth a try to do the content manager tire swap. as far as i can tell, thats not what was done with this mod and see how it goes. i would definitely trust rss to get the tires much more correct.

[@KaDuWin]

Miss watching the V10s race live. The V10 era was pure racing magic at its best outside of the early 90s in my humble opinion. Luckily I got to see both eras.

[@TheMailmanOfSteel]

20 years of F1 technological advancement wiped out by... tires. oof

[@lukealeckson3525]

Actually the cut slicks actually benefited them for the longevity of the slick as it helped it's cooling propertys from what I remember.

[@Alex-UM7GTE]

tbh i like the v8's because i started watching f1 in the around '08's and it's nostalgic nowadays.

[@R9naldo]

"V6 turbo Hybrid" "Low cost" Bullshit! 1 turbo hybrid costs about as much as 20 NA V10s. Thats why they could use so many engines back in the day. The competitive balance was also much better back then; independant teams could actually survive

[@deathtrooper2048]

Though the V6s last way longer than the V10s.

[@kerimca98]

​@@deathtrooper2048They're limited on boost and fuel flow, can't even really push and sits on comfortably low RPM F1 until 2006 on the other hand had no RPM limit, thus was being pushed to the limit all the time If N/A engines were to have a certain limit, it would be very reliable as well

[@ArnoId-Schwarzenegger]

Slowest way to kill people is: kill their expectations.

[@jaimyvi870]

Ngl this is my first video I am watching of Ermz and I am honestly impressed by how the video has been set together and I am really enjoying watching the video. I thought "This guy must have millions subscribers" and then I was impressed about the amount I saw. This guy really deserves a shoutout!

[@dunichtich100]

I'd love to see Mick in the F2004 with modern rubber 😁

[@vogel4171]

He actually did some Laps at Hockenheim in 2019 with the F2004. I was standing in the last corner and that thing was loud af even tho it was detuned

[@alariclau]

very entertaining and great driving. I am also impressed with graphics, absly stunning!

[@theawesomegamer681]

I want F0, old engines, similar aero work with the size and weight of the older 2004 cars, modern tires, whatever turbo/supercharger the teams want, and as much fuel flow as they want. Let the cars go as fast as the driver can go.

[@NBSV1]

Just give them a 4L V12, big tires, light weight, and moderate aero. Then they’d have lots of power and good noises as well as much more mechanical grip so you aren’t as reliant on clean air for grip. A lot of what makes the racing boring is dependence on aero for grip. The cars are fast with clean air, but can’t get close enough for a pass.

[@theawesomegamer681]

@@NBSV1 i agree and that would still be fun to watch, but I would be curious how bonkers some teams would go with aero.

[@frodrigues1011]

The V10 I can live without, but bring the lighter slicker cars back please.

[@k20a_dave]

christ this is impressive by ralf, those older mid 00's cars look so much agile and nimble than these boats we have now. i'm not talking about power.

[@rubenthekid6819]

That car with KERS, ERS and DRS would be insanely unstoppable.

[@razorr_o]

0:53 That's Vince McMahon!

[@Ioulianos94.]

I would definitely like to see a race with the best cars ever made from F1

[@ale_gmp_046]

Gran turismo song running in the background is boosting everything up

[@Scoobydcs]

The size difference is incredible!!

[@Kinzione]

The cuts on the slicks were made because it got very fast, very clear that this V10's are beasts, and the cut slicks was to prevent them from being too fast. Ralf said this on his Sky germany commentary on a few occasions.

[@TheUsmc0802]

I did not know Ralph did that this year!!!! Off to find it in KZbin.

[@spopov8026]

He added one lap on top of the usual five because he did a voice over so he actually didn't overtake for the lead in the fine 2 corners

[@marioelburro1492]

The 2026 cars have to be at least or 80-90% the size of the ones we have today to enjoy some tighter racing

[@adityasharma5499]

ohh man got a wonderful sleep with this v10 chad sound for 2 hours thanks

[@harryjones3039]

“Ah just listen to that”. My words exactly

[@rino156]

That Daniel burn got me 😂

[@karu1585]

I first would’ve liked to see a comparison between the old tires and the slicks

[@tomosterkamp936]

The size of the old cars is amazing. Much more room

[@valipunctro]

The size comparison of the cars is hilarious.😂

[@DkingE39]

You sir know F1 V10 era is the fastest era

[@rfactorgo39]

Not a fan of the radio audio effect, otherwise amazing video as always

[@scottd7222]

That's my favorite part lol

[@Ricky911_]

"Could you check the radio volume?"

[@AlexP-_-]

I saw the F1 become what it is today. I'm not old but how I regret this time! Image 20 years of improvement of this machine, what a F1 we would have today.

[@carlosmorgadosilva3517]

The reason you were able to accelerate so fast compared to the others wasn't the traction control (well, yes, but not the entire truth). The slicks add more grip, and to top it all off, the cars being lighter makes it easier to accelerate given both in 2004 and nowadays they have approximately the same power.

[@zembaddd__]

I love when drs open at lap 1 😂😂

[@meme-hz9dx]

The graphic is so good

[@clemens1993]

The G forces a probably so high that the driver would black out xD Not only the turns, but also the deceleration. Holy crap.

[@LKcars_shorts]

"Gigachad older brother doesn't care about open holes" 😂

[@kevinhaakede]

Why is it rainin tho

[@N.I.S.C]

Now we just need these new technical improvements and find a way to shrink them down to the size of the old cars, tracks like monaco would improve so much if the cars get smaller.

[@manthangupta3443]

imagine if teams could choose what type of engine they want. its very unrealistic, but would be so cool.

[@xaviersharma707]

They would still go for V6 turbos. As we saw the MP4/4 destroy the grid

[@rafalhodgson1508]

Great Video!

[@majorgrub1730]

THE ULTIMATE LIST 80s- Lotus 98T or McLaren MP4/4 90s- Williams FW14B 00s- F2004 10s- RB7 20s- W11

[@martrex5477]

I'm calling for Formula 1 to give us a real comparison as exhibition - put a driver that has driven those 2004 V10 monsters AND is currently on the grid (we know it's Fernando) on modern slicks. Unmodified classic car except the tires and set him loose to go all-out

[@Anonymous389j]

Bring the fun old cars back. Put slicks and DRS in them, and you'll have new generation monsters

[@alexanderpisarski1841]

This was fantastically interesting, dope.

[@splatyxd9623]

Ferrari F2002 on current slicks with a prime Micheal Schumacher and thats just unbeatable

[@sy1ful350]

Man got personal beef wif Daniel for tht entire 1 lap xD

[@Optimistprime.]

That V10 sound though! 😍

[@37269J]

It looks so compact compared to the modern cars

[@markus1351]

it's also a hell lighter

[@Switll72]

Assetto corsa is fun I love it but I think if you reverse the roles 2022 car vs the V10 bunch the result would be a Win for 2022 car the Ai isn't really up for one to one racing with skilled drivers. Maybe try that in Multiplayer will also have different outcome :). Cool fun video though :). Honestly would love the V10's back but I think its a cost effective decision, V10 revving up to 20 000 rpm is more expensive and have more wear than the current engine. Its all about economics in the end. 😔

[@dodenmanniskan8846]

But current V6s needs massive turbo with massive boost pressure and a bunch of electric stuffs to barely provide more power. But it may be a nice try to get back on this absolute craziness of old. 3.5L V10 and V12 on current slicks and some other tech.

[@brolo7234]

Naw. Just compare the lap times. People in the f2004 with slicks have absolutely smashed the 2022 car lap records on most AC board sites. Hell, some beat the 2022 times with the stock f2004 with grooved tyres lmfao

[@NoDirtyVids]

Thumbs up purely for that lovely noise.

[@itsemiemaximo9354]

The weight difference surely has his part there too in acceleration an breakdistance…

[@GiovaneLima]

OMG. That's why I play 95% with this car on F1 2020!

[@jeanadames8230]

It’s quite ironically how F1 the pinnacle of motor sports instead of going faster with their innovations are just getting bigger, bulkier and slower with every year.

[@deborahchesser7375]

I miss the exotic V10 and 12’s, more dangerous? Yes, twice much fun to watch ? Hell yes.

[@punman5392]

You’re shifting too early. These engines rev so high that you have to re-train your ear to wait till it gets higher than you’re used to

[@TheEmolano]

I hope we can get either V8s or V10s running synthetic fuels in the future

[@Car.los.Moreira]

Dear god, the sound difference when you switch onboards from the V6 hybrid back to the V10...

[@vascofranco5195]

I would love to see the duel between the 2 fastest cars ever F2004 vs Mercedes w11 Merc. Have the record in the Tracks but the Ferrari with new ruber Will be amazing in that time the tyres last the whole race

[@aronwhitesell9427]

The old 2004 Ferrari still has a few race lap records like at Monza.

[@nateellis9096]

@@aronwhitesell9427 well ya it’s been proven that monza is an engine lap while the w11 was a downforce and grip car so that doesn’t surprise me if you race them on let’s say silver stone w11 would win

[@aronwhitesell9427]

@@nateellis9096 you're probably right but put the 2004 cars on slicks, it would be close. Alonso said that slicks on the old cars would gain about 4 seconds a lap.

[@PVTParts472]

wait, so you're telling me, that a guy that hasnt raced an F1 car for 14 years, beat most of the current f1 grip, with a de-tuned F1 car?

[@thomas-d]

Ralf's Ferrari... yup, nailed it...

[@wanabdulhadi1268]

Brilliant content as usual Mr. Hamsandwich!

[@arrowkneeguy]

"We just burn more dead dinosaurs" 😂😂

[@youpviver6773]

i sincerely hope when the sustainable fuels come in in iirc 2026, that we can go back to running v10's again, probably newer v10's but still. can you imagine modern aerodynamics, DRS and all the other improvements over the years and then putting a screaming v10 with probably >1000 hp in the car, that's gonna be euphoric!

[@ShadowWalker-ng1it]

bringing back v10s would probably slow the cars down if teams still had to try to respect a engine allocation to which they are already struggling with so no just based on budget.

[@RBenjo21]

There’s a reason the 2003 Italian GP is still the fastest race of all time. And that reason is refuelling.

[@eEnzo0]

Try doing that again without TC. DRS may help the way heavier cars of today in a straight line (to compensate the weight difference) but they lose badly in the corners against F2004 because they can't put the power down as hard as you do with TC Active.

[@ukrje]

We have to keep ralf´s time in perspective. While it is true, that his 1:08.170 would be the third fastest during the race, he would have been 20th out of 21 in fp1, last by over a second in quali on friday, first by half a second on fp2, and would be the fastest race lap in sprint

[@UUUU-dn9wz]

Yeah, but +100hp alone would cut the time by at least 3 seconds, and that’s without mentioning demo tyres and the fact that the F2004 was over a second faster by itself compared to the rest of the field.

[@YTaccNo3]

we also have to keep in mind that ralf was never a tremendously fast driver and even if he was he wouldnt be pushing as you would push a hotlap in qualifying

[@ukrje]

@@UUUU-dn9wz Oh yes of course, i would not go against the fact that an f2004 is simply faster than any modern f1 car. On some tracks probably even with grooved tires. Just wanted to point outr that ralf wasn´t quite as fast as most believe.

[@UUUU-dn9wz]

@@ukrje yeah that’s true, 1:08 by itself is not impressive for a f1 car

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Sorry but are we sure that Ralph pulled a 1:08? Because I've seen the video and he doesn't seem to be pushing that hard. The breaking point he uses is too early compared to nowadays cars. And I know that the aero charge is different, but he seems to be lifing so before the turn.... Then, the pole position from 03 (last year V10 f1 cars visited the A1 ring) is 1:09 and the fastest lap of the race 1:08 (both of them by MSC)... I'm afraid that it's too optimistic to get 1:08 in an exhibition event.