Can a NEW Player learn an OLD Fighting Game? (Guilty Gear XXAC+R)

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SONGS USED:
Korn - Blind
GGXX Korean OST - Character Select, Writhe in Pain, The Great Empress
Floral - Climbing a Wall
Sisters of Mercy - This Corrosion
Nintendo 3DS - Internet Settings
KADE - ICE/WATER WORLD
Clown Core - Infinite Realm of Incomprehensible Suffering

[@noah__jd4883]

11 is next

[@noah__jd4883]

besides just being cool, the +R discord also runs beginner tourneys all the time

[@alexmineru]

I need to see it

[@wr41thx29]

Sup Noah! :D

[@noah__jd4883]

@@wr41thx29 the ceiling

[@wr41thx29]

@noah__jd4883 i would have said bouffa

[@CorruptedMilkYT]

Possibly the best intro I’ve ever seen tbh

[@cannonfodder4000]

the burp fucking killed me

[@metalgearskeletor]

Starting off a Accent Core Video with a blind by Korn gmv is the most late 2000’s thing I’ve ever seen lmao

[@sefflikejeff1917]

That was the goal :) I thought about only doing period-accurate music for the whole video but I got bored of that gimmick pretty quick lol

[@hodoupmer]

that intro was kino

[@Aath-ju2wn]

Man the dustloop is one of sol’s hardest combos, combo difficulties are a bit of a weak point on the wiki lol. Impressive that you started getting it so quickly however

[@p99chan99]

Is it? I'm not a Sol main in +R but I got the timing for the Dustloop down I think? (corner) cl.5S > 6P > dl.5H > j.9DD > land > j.9D > dj.9D > volcanic viper At least that's a basic combo I remember from before, the key thing is doing Dust *immediately* after 5H, after that you're gucci.

[@p99chan99]

Correction, you can do a 2nd rep in this combo: (corner) cl.5S > 6P > dl.5H > j.9DD > land 66 > j.9DD > land > j.9D > dj.9D > volcanic viper~followup (S)

[@Aath-ju2wn]

@@p99chan99 Oh yeah you're right, definitely way easier than I remember it being. I still wouldn't start with it though, maybe as a route to get more access to and familiarity with the rest of his combo theory, but not as a beginner.

[@xliMaGiclx]

I love the timeless pixel sprites of older games. They can never go out of style ( At least for me ) Plus R is one my favorites along with kof xiii, the sprites in these games is just phenomenal. Great video BTW.

[@alx0tl]

Not my favorite kof art, but like, i don't mean that in a bad way, just, wow is snk amazing at pixel art, since forever There really isn't much to that level Gg and blazblue are up there too

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

Accent Core Plus R 🤝Third Strike

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

@@alx0tl Yeah, there's something about Neogeo pixel art (and all its styles) all around that just looks snazzy to me.

[@will__mem9rno]

@@ArbitraryOutcome love snk's neo geo fighters art so much especially the way they did zoom out like in the SamSho games

[@karinja3172]

Ayy that's me in your first match! I actually got into this game with another friend of mine as well at least in vanilla Accent Core in Fightcade before we bought +R. Also that section where you played matches with your friend kinda reminded us of those times haha. He's also the one who saw I was in this video too lol. Glad you've been enjoying the game man!

[@bensaathoff1427]

You have a really good learning mindset, something lots of people getting into fighting games should aim for. It's easy to get demotivated at losses, but one perfect line in your video "alright let's go lose" shows that you are okay with your losses so long as you learn from them. This to me is the most important thing when learning fighting games, even if there are struggles with it along the way. Keep it up man, you motivate me to keep trying!

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Glad you enjoyed! I didn't always have a good learning mindset in terms of these games. You can really tell in the strive video especially, I would get frustrated too fast and not learn. These videos kind of document me learning...how to learn fighting games

[@Diaz_vlaud]

Me and a friend played with "steam play together" thing, the arcade mode.... with both of us playing the same character... it was so chaotic. We managed to defeat the final boss after 4 hours of getting bodied it was fun nontheless

[@Maxler5795]

"rosters are unbalanced" Partially the reason as to why the game is still alive and well is because the roster is very balanced, and every character is viable.

[@nihk5234]

Or because every character is unbalanced and thus every character is viable

[@Ryan-vw5ul]

I relate to a lot of what you said at the beginning as someone who's recently gotten into 3rd Strike. People hype that game up like the hardest game ever, but it didn't even take a day for me to beat someone lol.

[@reza_nadem]

I still have all music of guilty gear xx reload in my phone and when I was teenager I interested in metal music just by playing this game 😎

[@boneyard444]

the guilty gear to rock/metal enjoyer pipeline is real

[@wes186]

I've had this game in my steam library for awhile but never touched it outside of messing around in training mode for a few minutes. This video made me decide to pick it up again and while I still only have about 10 hours and have been getting my ass handed by the guy I play with, I'm absolutely obsessed with it. I gravitated towards A.B.A and she's probably the most fun character I've ever played in a fighting game.

[@Mr8bit-s7h]

Best things about guilty gear xx (any version)are combo damage reduction and normal hits damage. You can easily win matches without landing a single combo. It reduces the skill ceiling dramatically as long as you can react to your opponent

[@thatguykekai2601]

I'm glad he commented on goofy Faust I *main* the guy and I didn't even know he was like this in previous games he cemented his place as one of my favorite fictional characters ever

[@Harmony270]

you should try one of the guilty gear xrd games xrd sign was the first 3d guilty gear game and the gameplay is a lot closer to xx than strive is

[@WePsychoz]

I thought this was a video from a big fgc channel due to the quality, it's always small channels that end up being the best

[@bluesolarisii-oscar]

I’m not a veteran or anything of guilty gear, I’m just trying to study the guilty gear animation style over other fighters because there’s something about the animation of this series that really tickles my brain in the best way that I’m trying to learn for my own project. You’re one of the only people who has a decent and high quality video of gameplay for XXAC, so thanks for that! :D*

[@sefflikejeff1917]

That last bit seems insane to me, but I guess the game has been around forever. Most of the videos about it were probably made/uploaded closer to when it came out in glorious 360p quality

[@bluesolarisii-oscar]

@@sefflikejeff1917 yeah, that’s my main point, a lot of the videos are pretty old, kinda hard to get a clear read on the animations like that.

[@jooseygoosey]

Your Only Move is Hustle is indeed an absolute gem

[@buzzbuzzbeebee]

Really fun video I can really sense your enjoyment with the game series !

[@Nooctae]

Hell yeah man. This game is insanely cool. I have my frustrations with it, but I always come back.

[@hamandcheese4795]

Yo this video was sick. +r was actually my first fighting game I got actually into around 2021, glad to see how you felt with my personal favorite fighting game.

[@hamandcheese4795]

Also to your point about new players getting into it, I introduced about 4 people to anime fighting games through this game and we still consistently play each other to this day. I love this game.

[@CarlFriel-c8w]

Crist Glens

[@FikosoEva-lz2kq]

Now play sol goodguy 💀

[@sucrecube]

I picked up this game today, because I'm getting into guilty gear, and I want to play with my friends but I have an ultra shitty laptop that I think would turn into a bomb if I even _tried_ running Strive on it. The biggest bonus is that my absolute favourite character (Robo ky) is playable in it!

[@MeatbagSlayer]

Fellas, it's 3 bucks till July 11th, 2024. Buy the game, dammit.

[@Baditow]

as somebody who picked up hftf for the one time, I heavily relate to this video. the game was extremely difficult especially when compared to more modern traditional fighting games, but learning all the stuff in that environment built me stronger because of the difference in input preciseness when compared to newer games. + the small communities for these games are also SUPER NICE. I recommend.

[@lavie258]

i like the way you compare and put similarities between things, makes things easier to understand well at least for me

[@koiratti]

i think you haven't mentioned or showed any of.. hm.. what its called.. dust powered specials? which using 25% tension to power up special. dunno if Strive has it i ve only seen those in +R

[@hazzydahaka13]

Force Breaks. They're essentially either EX versions of certain specials, or simply BROKEN/really good moves that need a 25 meter cost for how good they are. Currently, these are exclusive to Accent Core and +R, and I personally hope that they make a return in future games.

[@Akira__Power]

I was scared to play this game and then this video pops up You are a player of my profile I immediately trusted you This game SLAPS HOLY MOLY

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Hell yeah 🤜🤛 never be scared of pixels

[@Akira__Power]

@@sefflikejeff1917 GG Xrd feels tempting now that i feel confident enough to play fighting games in general 🔥

[@Hopollos]

A game this good for this cheap should be classified as grand larceny

[@Jack_Horner_is_a_hero]

Another GREAT game to get into if you're a fan of the Guilty Gear series is Blazblue Centralfiction. It's actually on sale right now on Steam for just $10. It was made as the replacement for GG during a period of when Arcsystem lost the rights to most of the Guilty Gear characters except Sol and Ky. I'd say it's easier to pick up on than Plus R, give it a shot if you're ever in the mood for a new fighter. I recommend you playing either Ragna or Bullet since they're similar to Sol Badguy and Giovanna. Also that red and white color you use for Sol is actually a Ragna reference

[@crystalizationism]

As a new player playing for 2 months, yes and i cant do dustloops ;-; In a serious note, it's really fun and a bit rewarding if you learn the game without help, not that i did'nt ask for any hehe Edit: just dont be harsh on urself when learning how to play

[@dj_koen1265]

Are you in the +r discord? People are usually eager to help Also great place to try to find games although I feel like it’s gotten a little harder as of late for some reason

[@DragonflySwamp]

4:30 It's always the people who know nothing about a game who will talk the most shit about it. The cure is simply trying new things and having fun, but who has time for that when you can bitch and moan? I think Guilty Gear is a victim of this more than most other games. But anyway, this was a really cool video and I'm happy to see that you managed to get to the meat of why fighting games are actually fun: everything you do is cool and the whole experience looks and sounds awesome. I'm biased, but if you can find Xrd on sale (usually about $15 USD), I highly encourage giving it a shot because it has a ton of depth and fun but without mechanics that demand absurd precision like FRCs and Slashback. I talk about Xrd a fair amount on my channel if you're interested.

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Xrd video is definitely going to happen sometime this year! (I've definitely seen your character overview videos before lol)

[@zeywop]

you using the gunflame feint against a cpu at 8:40 made me spit tea all over my phone. can i have three dollars please

[@sefflikejeff1917]

I was in his head dude, he wasn't ready for my huge brain mixups

[@melikabreak]

I never expected "Climbing a Wall" by Floral to be on this video

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Such an underrated band

[@justadrian3890]

YOU LISTEN TO FLORAL???

[@sefflikejeff1917]

OTHER PEOPLE LISTEN TO FLORAL???

[@skullkid234]

Dude that intro needs its own video

[@d-phantom6456]

You should try out xrd its personally my favourite out the big three guilty gears

[@sefflikejeff1917]

It's definitely on the list

[@LucidButtonMasher]

As an active plus r propagandist, good on ya spreading the good word and keep it up. Don't forget to use replay takeover to practice what you drop!

[@dj_koen1265]

Eyy its beeg punch man You make great videos

[@jinxhand]

Reject Strive... Return to +R!!!

[@sefflikejeff1917]

There's plenty of room for both :)

[@Space_Lion]

Thanks for the refreshingly positive perspectives :) i just picked up the game myself and im loving it. The only fighting games ive put a lot of time into are melee and 3rd strike, these characters really hooked me

[@jonathonlasagna9168]

Holy shit they got the guy from the game awards for the intro

[@ryogamestation]

0:13 Well thats not good lol. I am glad Guilty Gear was a success in the end.

[@バカ外人]

I don't have friends to play fighting games with, but love them nonetheless is just fun disecting stuff piece by piece

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Bro my friends play overwatch 💀 the initial reason I made this channel was to trick strangers into playing fighting games with me

[@ratticalo]

Got into the game myself a few weeks ago, it honestly cant be understated how important it is to have a friend to play this with, been such an experience (especially since the only other traditional fighting games ive played are street fighter 2 and jjba hftf), even when i get strive ill def go back to this game from time to time, daisuke is a wizard

[@Wolvahulk]

I played +R after playing Missing Link, both were essentially my first Guilty Gear games. I got Strive pretty much a week ago now for Christmas. I can attest that as a new player +R is pretty tough, I got smashed in Arcade mode every time, eventually settled for picking a difficulty where I feel more comfortable lol. I haven't watched the whole video yet but I do think Strive is way simpler to get into. Still if someone isn't sure about GG overall, just try +R, they're still similar games and very fun regardless. Very cheap right now too (as in price wise ofc lol).

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Plus R was the first game that forced me to learn how to utilize training mode well I really wasn't winning a lot online until I got a few good BnB's down consistently. Really valuable lessons learned in plus r, I think it made me better at strive somehow as well!

[@Budzabit]

Instant sub after watching this and your 24hr strive video. I could watch your content for hours, keep up the great work!

[@biondu8699]

Do you think someone who haven't played any fighting games is able to beat Arcade on astonishing hard difficulty? I try it everyday for some minutes and try to use blocks/counters/skill and im not very interested in combos(i try to invent them myself).

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Yeah, you could do it

[@biondu8699]

@@sefflikejeff1917 Thanks for advice. I've made it. After 12h i could not get passed 9/10 and today, after 7 more hours in my 3h session, i beat 9/10 after 40min and 10/10 after said 3h not counting little break. Key to success was to memorize all of enemy attacks and block and use powers wisely. I probably also made it without kicks because i forgot about them xd

[@thepancakealchemist6949]

Watching this after buying on steam for $3

[@Nocu_0]

That was hot

[@Matapel0]

It's interesting what you say about similar hobbies, I compare training mode with learning a solo in guitar too. It feels musical!

[@haku_68]

Order sol 4 life

[@Sainsburyslocal_gaming]

watching this while dropping a post work turd 👍 Pink eye is a small price to pay for a seff upload

[@soundshape6496]

Did he say he plays this game on a keyboard? I know the terminology for the moves is used by saying like 236 for a half circle forward but actually playing with the keyboard? Sounds difficult.

[@sefflikejeff1917]

I was having execution issues on pad, so I learned on keyboard, and eventually built myself a leverless controller

[@soundshape6496]

@@sefflikejeff1917 nice. I’ve never played on keyboard… I honestly didn’t know it was a thing… just seems weird but people type on computers all day… people wild out on calculators etc.

[@DctrBread]

imagine having the iron discipline to try a cool game instead of listening to meme complaints

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Word of mouth goes a long way, if I hear nothing but complaints about a game, I'm less likely to try it. Glad I tried plus r though, really sick game

[@DctrBread]

@@sefflikejeff1917hope this video makes the rounds. People usually are worried about testament vortex when they should be more worried about getting counter-hit by potemkin jump-ins

[@ActuallyAmoonguss]

I sent this video to my gf to try and help her understand why I love this game so much. 😂

[@dragonwife5367]

i would never have expected to hear floral in a video like this thats amazing

[@mrpinguimninja]

Dude, what math rock song is that one playing around the 20min mark? Is it floral?

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Good ear! The track is called "climbing a wall"

[@mrpinguimninja]

@@sefflikejeff1917 Thanks! Math rock is my favorite genre and it lined up really well with the gameplay video you edited. Never thought of using math rock in a video like this, but it worked out great!

[@BluesM18A1]

Easily my favorite fighting game, glad to see I'm not the only one psychotic-- uhh I mean *brave* enough to pick up and really learn old fighting games.

[@blahblahgdp]

Dankest title ive ever seen in the history of mankind

[@sefflikejeff1917]

We do a little clickbaiting 🤏

[@kikiash2425]

nice sisters of mercy

[@Atrus999]

I've been looking up the best place to start in the Guilty Gear series since I'm new to Guilty Gear, and yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about to when you say people act a certain way when you ask questions about this game. I've been playing fighting games for years but since I haven't played this particular series everyone acts like they're recommending me baby's first fighting game. It's very odd.

[@drink.juice.]

wow a guilty gear video with floral music and its made by someone i dont know thats pretty epic

[@MZMS1510]

I started playing this game yesterday because i don't have the PC or money for Strive. But I'm actually loving it, the game is really fun, thank you for the content on it

[@Randoverse]

Nice clown music. :)

[@LoopZoopler]

Sublime intro

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Thanks, I don't know if I can ever top it lol

[@user-qt1pi5tt7d]

Legendary editing ❤

[@astjuly8239]

Can someone talk about this fvcking badass intro?

[@awa0927]

Damn I feel old lol

[@p99chan99]

It took me a few minutes to nail down the Dustloop combo for sol in +R, I performed it from what I remember and then immediately looked at your video and realised what's wrong, you're delaying the 5H way too much, the timing I figured out myself is after the first wallbounce (after 6P the opponent goes forward hits the wall, and then bounces back), so when you see the opponent bounce back, immediately 5H and then immediately do a j.9D, try not to delay the 2nd j.D too much since j.D already has good recovery, you just need to figure out the timing. As for the 2nd rep, you need a dashing start up to do hit the the dj.D 3rd rep which is: 2nd rep > dash > j.9D > dj.9D > into whatever. (S volcanic viper~follow up gives good oki from what it looks like, H version opponent can air-tech out) I'm also a +R noob who hard mains A.B.A but I hope this helps.

[@nadaadeclarification]

They ruined Guilty Gear. Now it looks slow and shitty.

[@AziDoesQuestionableThings]

love how there's always one guy who insists on talking about why strive is bad instead of talking about why +r is good

[@sefflikejeff1917]

So slow and shitty that it sold 2 million copies lol

[@saltlord_]

Got a lot more into fighters since I picked up Strive some months ago and this game looks cool as fuck. I think your video has convinced me to give it a proper shot.

[@sancticial]

These vids are great, please do more GG content. Easy sub.

[@ICanHazWaffles705]

Hello fellow math rock enjoyer. Awesome video btw accent core is goated

[@agameoffools1546]

i feel like a lot of people just hear that the game has harder combos and character specific combos and assume a massive increase in difficulty

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Real. On paper AC+R is way more complex, but not in a bad way. I actually have a way easier time with combos in plus r because of the freedom of the gatling system I think most people just underestimate their own ability to learn things.

[@lullaboid]

i'm in. if you can do it i can do it lets fucking goooo

[@Phil_597]

Explosions and yoyo swings are loud enough to actually damage your hearing. Just like in real life!

[@AhmedX8]

Great video, Seff. +R is super fun at all levels and easy to get into (but hard to master). If you're up for it, let's play a few games.

[@kushiro6302]

I played this on a vita for my first fighting game lmao. It's like extra hard mode

[@subb9011]

korny intro

[@e1her753]

Sup

[@titmit6940]

To pick up and have fun, this game is easily the easiest one, beacuse of the freedom of the button it let you press and it's fluidity

[@tallburrito4657]

Coolio

[@R8Spike]

I want this to be my first real fighting game after kyanta and fantisty strike

[@2000Doriyas]

Fantasy Strike is the best version of FGC training wheels and this is like jumping in a custom sports, so much room for pushing it to the limit

[@Marnikoi]

What about an update on +R? Have you improved?

[@pur3d3m0n67]

the only thing i hate about strive is it holds your hands while you play the game, in AC+R there was no hand holding, it was learn a combo or get your ass handed in a blink of an eye while a guy sits there telling you to fight back

[@sefflikejeff1917]

What specifically about strive is "hand-holding"? If you just mean it's more accessible and that's bad, I think strives 2 million sales might disagree

[@ghosttoast790]

Cool.

[@xelic1996]

Honestly give XRD a try I think you'd love it. It's the Melee of Guilty Gear.

[@2000Doriyas]

Why is Plus R not the Melee? I like both but don’t exactly understand what makes either have a higher skill ceiling respectively.

[@dj_koen1265]

+r is more difficult Xrd is a streamlined and simplified version of +r but in a good way, its not too simple and still has lots of stuff And I highly recommend people try xrd

[@juancorona7935]

This game and street fighter ❤❤❤

[@thegreatdabdos]

hey man! great video! heard a song I recognized (Golden by Cory Wong) which wasn't credited.

[@peerlessvillain]

Yomi hustle !!!! Slapps so hard too

[@xo2ulips]

skullgirls next?

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Maybe someday, once new fighting games stop coming out every other day lol

[@edmundosantos2421]

Looks fun, I will try it on my Vita.

[@sefflikejeff1917]

That version is pretty funny, I emulated it on my phone one time

[@ChefRachman]

Great video man, loved it

[@max-potato-muncher]

19:43 me when funni RNG man:

[@grooves9291]

23:02 this clip syncs with the music pretty well lmao

[@sefflikejeff1917]

Thank you for noticing!!

[@r1sing766]

learning zato vid PLEASE

[@seansagley6103]

I need to see seff play xrd to complete the trio

[@sefflikejeff1917]

One day

[@babylonastronaut]

The soundtrack is worth 3 dollars

[@sefflikejeff1917]

The game goes on sale for 3 dollars pretty consistently