Can A Thicker Oil Help Reduce Oil Consumption? We Compare a 5w30, 5w40 and 5w50 oil - [BMW E90 N52]

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@dohargideon5871
@dohargideon5871 Жыл бұрын
Hilux 1kdD4d always use Mineral oil 15w40 (hot weather country "Bali"). Change every 4000Km, never see oil burn. Cheap maintenance. Mileage 330.000Km, still strong
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Nice 💪🏼
@greathey1234
@greathey1234 Жыл бұрын
I am using 0w20 in my n52b25 in a really hot county because my trips are really short and infrequent. Works very well.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
You should be using at least a 0w30 though
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
If it's very hot, you should use a 5w40
@ToxicLadyBG
@ToxicLadyBG 2 жыл бұрын
Went from Castrol 5w30 to Liqui Molly 5w40 on n52b30 engine. It used to drink about 1L per 3000 km but with Liqui molly it went down to 500 ml per 10 000km. Huge difference.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. The n52b30 seen to respond better and don't have the oil consumption issue that the n52b25 has. 👌🏼
@hanynowsky
@hanynowsky 2 жыл бұрын
What liqui moly? Leichtlauf 5w40? Molygen 5w40? Toptec 4200 5w40?
@ToxicLadyBG
@ToxicLadyBG 2 жыл бұрын
@@hanynowsky Molygen.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a fully synthetic?
@ToxicLadyBG
@ToxicLadyBG 2 жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive yes, of course.
@deemack3719
@deemack3719 11 күн бұрын
1ST OF ALL --- THIS MUSIC 🎶 WAS GREAT‼️👍 & THANKS FOR THE OIL LESSON I WILL TRY IT IN MY 2008 528I( i hear a light tapping once i start up)
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 10 күн бұрын
Great 💪🏽. I also enjoy the music 🎶
@rbruce63
@rbruce63 6 ай бұрын
On my 1995 GMC Jimmy with the 4.3 liter engine and 350,000 Km the oil consumption is at 1 liter per 5,000 Km using SAE 10W/30 as per the owner’s manual “summer” recommendation of the highest API spec available! I decided to switch to SAE 15W/40 due to the high temperatures prevailing in Costa Rica, where I live, a tropical country that range from 25C to 38C. So far, its consumption is about the same as I had to add 1/2 a quart of oil at the 2,000 Km mark. The oil pressure is always higher than with SAE 10W/30 and the engine seems a little less peppy on the very short on ramps of the sole higher speed road around… So, the jury is still out on this one. I might return to SAE 10W/30. However, on our delivery Van a 1999 Toyota HiAce LH-122 diesel 2.4 liter engine with 450,000 Km I’ve consistently used SAE 15W/40 of the highest diesel oil spec available and change it every 5,000 Km as per the owners recommendation and there is no oil consumption whatsoever. Perhaps I could replace it using a diesel SAE 10W/30 as per the recommendation in the HiAce owners manual as an experiment, but, if it ain’t broke it ain’t worth fixing!
@toomuchsauce4442
@toomuchsauce4442 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos one of my go too channels . E39m5 restoration . Nathan bmw garage George austers and this guy . Great content for n52 keep up the videos . I have n52b25 so this content is like gold for me and 99 percent of my interest would be oil related . Keep it up bro
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it. There wasnt so much info on the n52s so I learned alot through trial an error. So I hope these videos can help other e90 owners. These cars are incredible but so finniky😂
@toomuchsauce4442
@toomuchsauce4442 2 жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive 100 percent . I’m sitting on 107 k miles . When I first got the car I was using oil from dealership 5-30 ll04 it would do 1500 miles for liter . Now I’m using Castrol edge 5-30 ll01 I’m getting 2k miles .
@julesviolin
@julesviolin 28 күн бұрын
The M47 engine from year 2000 era was best and simplest lump BMW ever produced in terms of longevity and reliability. Also used in Rover 75 and Land Rover Freelander. These engines easily achieved 500k miles on original chain and still didn't use a SINGLE DROP of oil. I still run one today on 210k miles still going strong and 50mpg ⚠️
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 27 күн бұрын
Dang it. Gotta find one of those!!! Didn't k ow about the land Rover using a BMW motor. Was it tuned for torque?
@julesviolin
@julesviolin 23 күн бұрын
​@@buildanddriveyes it was detuned by BMW to 115bhp so it didn't outshine their 3 Series. Disgraceful really, then in 2003 Rover mapped it to a more respectable 131bhp. Independent mappers took it to 155 bhp. BMW had their M47's put out 150 from day 1 using variable vane intake but it backfired on them as broken vanes got injested into many engines. Happy days for Rover 😅
@jalenrodriguez4733
@jalenrodriguez4733 Жыл бұрын
i used Castro edge 5w50 in my e34 m50nv and it faired fine as far as protection wise, but then again a m50 is like the beginning of an era for these types of engines just not as much electronic focused as for say a e60/e92/1/x 50 weight is alright if you live in a hot subtropical climate (ie me in satx) where the summers can sometimes be brutal and reach 105F
@flexairz
@flexairz 5 ай бұрын
Why, those temps are only interesting for engine startup. Oil runs at way higher temps
@ChrisPatrick-q6k
@ChrisPatrick-q6k 2 ай бұрын
Too thick, 10w/40 is as thick as you should go
@jalenrodriguez4733
@jalenrodriguez4733 2 ай бұрын
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k i dunno mane the owners manual says 50 weight is okay to use (yes ik the pamphlet is outdated but still kinda useful), sometimes the 40 be burning up a lil too much after awhile
@ChrisPatrick-q6k
@ChrisPatrick-q6k 2 ай бұрын
@@jalenrodriguez4733 If it works for you then do it.
@mantaspaulius5426
@mantaspaulius5426 9 ай бұрын
I'm currently using Penrite HPR5 5w-40 LL01 in my m54b30 with suposedly 362k km, engine drinks 1l of oil every 7000-8000km. I tried in the past Liqui Moly Leichtlauf, Shell Helix ultra (both 5w40 LL01), so the compumption was the same. When CCV broke down, engine used 1l/200km 😅after replacing CCV, it went back to normal 😃
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 9 ай бұрын
Yes CCV will do that lol.
@burgerbirger2221
@burgerbirger2221 2 жыл бұрын
During my holidays i drove about 5000km (3100miles). It consumed 3dl (10 fl oz). Car is a MB w211 E 320cdi my 2005. Oil used is Total Quartz 9000 Energy 5w 40.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
That's not too bad 👌🏼
@christinajoachim386
@christinajoachim386 8 ай бұрын
The viscosity, discript the first Value, is in these Test the same. The second Value is the Value of Heat resistant. The more is the better for Heat resistant.
@Saicopateful
@Saicopateful 2 жыл бұрын
It's normal that a thicker oil worsens fuel economy. I wouldn't use 5w50 as this engine was not designed for it and its not the passages but bearing clearance. Search "bearing clearance vs oil viscosity" and you'll know.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
Definetly
@awaisiqbal8934
@awaisiqbal8934 Жыл бұрын
5w50 is almost useless because most passenger cars with modern engines require 5w30 which may use 5w40 or end up using 5w40 or 10w40 in case of high mileage cars
@wcovey25
@wcovey25 Жыл бұрын
@@awaisiqbal8934 I've heard alot of engine builders talk about how 5w50 is superior to 5w30 for performance cars, it's just expensive and hard to make, only a few companies carry 5w50. They both have the same cold flow but when hot the 5w50 resists heat better. I run it and it's good
@awaisiqbal8934
@awaisiqbal8934 Жыл бұрын
@@wcovey25 resistant to heat means less flow after heat up. There are many components of an engine which may require different oil viscosities. However, the manufacturer usually recommends the best suitable viscosity of engine oil. We can go up or down just one W of an oil depending upon climate (heat expansion) and wear and tear (mileage of engine)
@wcovey25
@wcovey25 Жыл бұрын
@@awaisiqbal8934 that’s not true lol
@devilnish8
@devilnish8 2 жыл бұрын
I once used oil 5w-40 from Yacco instead of liqui moly. The oil was more thick burnt slightly less on my 330i but started getting vanos codes and fuel consumption increased.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
Use a full synthetic 5w40 with LL01 or LL04 and you should be fine.
@mooauto2388
@mooauto2388 Жыл бұрын
Switch to Pennzoil
@axelmoiseslaham452
@axelmoiseslaham452 Жыл бұрын
Shell
@axelmoiseslaham452
@axelmoiseslaham452 Жыл бұрын
​@@mooauto2388shell
@cmte.brazinazzo2061
@cmte.brazinazzo2061 9 ай бұрын
Hell Helix Ultra is the same as Pennzoil Ultra Platinum
@vincentcooray9269
@vincentcooray9269 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro, another great upload. Thanks for all the time and effort you put in to your videos and all the information you give to your subscribers. The fuel prices where I am are very low but I gave you a big thumbs up anyway. Stay cool bro and keep your videos coming. Very interesting watching. ✌
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks vincent, your comment is very motivating. I have so many ideas for videos and they are challenging to make. Where do you live and how much is fuel prices there?
@vincentcooray9269
@vincentcooray9269 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro, you deserve the boost. I live in Russia and the price per litre is 70 euro cents. Diesel is a little more expensive 73 euro cents. I thought you might have seen where I'm from by your stats, but maybe I'm wrong. I tore apart my Bmw e93 328i N52 B30 engine originally imported in from the states. In Europe they're refered to as the 330i as you well know. Been a bit stuck with my rebuild parts due to the sanctions, but I've worked around the problem now and will start putting mine back together. I didn't have any problems with my engine, it was purely a complete refresh. I stripped the bottom half also. Stay cool man ✌
@hanynowsky
@hanynowsky 2 жыл бұрын
My n52b25u1 burns 1L per 5000km. Using BMW TPT 5w30 LL01 or Shell Helix Ultra 5w30 LL01. Mileage: 140.000 kms. Fuel consumption: 5.5L/100km on highway. 12L/100km in city heavy traffic
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
Wow your engine is in AWESOME shape. What year is your car?
@hanynowsky
@hanynowsky 2 жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive bmw 523iA lci May 2007
@paho188_iron_phill4
@paho188_iron_phill4 2 ай бұрын
i have 2.0tdi and my engine used 1.5l 5w30 oil in 4000km and i changed piston rings too
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 ай бұрын
Well done 👏🏽. That's not too bad oil consumption
@dimoyovchev4726
@dimoyovchev4726 2 жыл бұрын
My n52b25af was burning 1l per 1000km with bardahl 5w40 but after changing the shaft seal to the gearbox and replacing the oil pan gasket putting Motul 5w40 x-clean I was gettnig 3k km per liter, the next oil change i got the motul 5w40 x-cess and actually right now, Im getting 5000km per liter. No rebuild done, spiritedly driving every drive, I havent changet ccv or valve stem seals. Im at 196k km. I actually think you have some sort of oil leak somewhere.
@oliestarkyshitposting5647
@oliestarkyshitposting5647 Күн бұрын
Hey. I've got a M54B25 engine, and use 5w40 ravenol and am burning 800-1200ML to 1000km. The car smokes a lot when hot (valve seals and piston rings no doubt) Im thinking about Castrol 5w50, what do you think? During summer, i get 34+ temperatures and in the winter, it goes like -3 most of the time at maximum, othervise little above 0 (all temps in celsius) Do you think the 5w50 is a good idea? I run the car quite passionately, so it burrnssss
@8359s
@8359s Ай бұрын
It depends what is the source of your oil being burned. If it's oil separator, then viscosity won't make it any better. In my Porsche 16.6 cSt oil is being burned like crazy, 18.5 cSt has 0 consumption.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Ай бұрын
Yes, if it's the CCV, nothing you can do. On an n52 is the piston design that causes burning. A thicker oil helps only a little bit which causing increased fuel consumption.
@Jelato_wrld
@Jelato_wrld 3 күн бұрын
How do you rest the oil levels without I drive of it does work on a 5series N52
@feltav5719
@feltav5719 5 ай бұрын
it all depends on the head... lifters? thin oil is great.... but anyways in my peugeot 1.4 8v gasoline, I had insane oil consumption... kinda normal for the engine and high miles it has 200.000kms... so I do 20w50 2/3 and 1/3 of 80gear oil. cause in this particular engine it basically does not have tinny passages. anyways... oil consumption went from 1L every 750 to 1L every 2000 ... I have bad valve stem seals too though... After I fix them I will probably go back to thinner 15w40. Save on gas lol havent really changed from 100% 20w50 to 2/3-50 and 1/3-80 edit*** I live in Brazil... I dont recommend the whole mineral super thicker oil in colder weather areas. 0~5w is the way to go incolder areas.. weather you use 20/30/40 or 50 will come down to temp and type of engine... sometimes the oil consumption does not added up to the fuel consumption you will have. just saying...
@pumm5866
@pumm5866 Ай бұрын
Hi, I really would like too see the cylinder bores. I doubt it is only the piston/ring design that causes this much oil consumption after the rebuild. I did have n52b25 (e60 2005) with 180k km that did about 3000km/l (5w30) No difference with 5w40. This engine did have a supercharger on it with LPG. I replaced the b25 with a b30 that uses no oil between oil changes (8-10k km). Re-ring with valve seals. No hone.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Ай бұрын
You can kinda see the bores here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHmyeXyqZp2FmJo
@pumm5866
@pumm5866 Ай бұрын
​@@buildanddrivewell i am about to rebuild a n53b30 with the same crosshatch hone. I do not like it because of the alusil.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Ай бұрын
@@pumm5866 do not use a dingleberry hone to make a crosshatch. you need to use an alusil hone. all the info is in the description of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6SZaYapl5dseZI
@pumm5866
@pumm5866 Ай бұрын
@@buildanddrive Machineshop already did it. Said it would be OK...
@omeridrizi5499
@omeridrizi5499 2 жыл бұрын
2009 bmw 128i manual 6 speed, running 5w30 liqui molly 1.5 l per 5000miles including 2 full summer track days in Amp Dawsonville Georgia USA.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
Thats pretty good oil consumption, even for track use 👌🏼
@specops1611
@specops1611 2 жыл бұрын
I own a bmw n52b25a e60 and thus far its 1500 km further after the last oil change with 5w30 and still no oil warning light still waiting for it to pop up….then will poor a litre in and check again how much i got with 5w30. Have to say my oil sump gasket is leaking. Still need to replace it.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
That's still pretty good oil consumption for an n52 👌🏼. Try checking your oil pan bolts to see if any are loose and then locktight and tighten them gently again. They can break pretty easily because they are torque to yeild bolts.
@specops1611
@specops1611 2 жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive yes bmw says 1l on 1000 km is acceptable. I think the gasket is the problem though, car has 285.XXX on it. And most of the things I replaced are still oem from 2005. I know the bolts are a pain in the ass had a leaky headgasket when I bought the car 2 months ago. Turned out two bolts were broken. Replaced the two bolts but broke one in the process. But maybe I will check the bolt and replace it I already have a extra set of spare bolts haha just in case.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
Mine oil pan bolts rattled loose. I did the gasket again anyway
@specops1611
@specops1611 2 жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive oh really. Think I will check this weekend if some small tightining will work..love your vids btw 💪🏽 and the info u are giving and decent testing stuff. Like the other video the oil stop stuff.
@broshyim3054
@broshyim3054 3 ай бұрын
Hi brother for diesel should I use 5w30 or 5w40in country like Thailand.Cambodia the weather not cool
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 3 ай бұрын
Yes any 5w30 LL04 bmw certified oil is fine for a diesel.
@gameforfuntofall828
@gameforfuntofall828 2 ай бұрын
5W40 1.9tdi asv 278k km i change oil every 10k km and any i don't suspect any oli missing its same amounth like when i pour it in engine.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 ай бұрын
Try and measure it when it comes out next time. I would be interested. 10k without adding oil at that mileage is excellent 👍🏽
@jantelow
@jantelow 9 ай бұрын
I have been unlucky enough to have bought one of the many BMW oil burners. The compression, pcv and valve seals are ok, but still it burns a lot of oil. I think it could be bad/damaged oil rings, or could it be something else?
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 9 ай бұрын
Check for vacuum leaks (in my other smoke test video). This would help the CCV to work correctly. Otherwise it's just the bad piston design and worn out rings unfortunately.
@barryblack7384
@barryblack7384 5 ай бұрын
N57 6k changes, now on 190k no issues
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 5 ай бұрын
I agree 💯.
@eDXTRe
@eDXTRe 2 ай бұрын
Try 5w30 ect c3 shell dexos2 oil after couple of thousand km the engine oil control rings will be clean and sealing again, my oil consumption is dropped significantly. On my M54B22 engine
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 ай бұрын
What was the oil consumption before and after?
@eDXTRe
@eDXTRe 2 ай бұрын
@@buildanddrive before like 800 km per liter and after 2000 km/l and later it became like 3500 to 4000 km per liter oil, so im very happy
@eDXTRe
@eDXTRe 2 ай бұрын
First I also used this 5w30 and the liquimoly Ceratec. But I don't know if that helped or not.....
@Mikegastaldo
@Mikegastaldo 8 ай бұрын
Don't know how i got here? anyway I enjoyed the video.. great job 👍.. you obviously got some skills to breakdown the motor..Im not sure why you didn't increase the oil return holes in the pistons and go with some better oil control rings? so much labor for poor results is disheartening..
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 8 ай бұрын
Don't know if there are any better oil control rings, unlike the m52tu, those were a better design but didn't come to the n52 as far as I know. I didn't know about the oil return holes would help that much more with the oil consumption. I assumed new rings would get me at least 1L/3000kms but it didn't. Only about 1L/1600. So bmw designed it that way from the start which I think is crazy
@andrewwmacfadyen6958
@andrewwmacfadyen6958 10 ай бұрын
I have been using 0w-40 to BMW LL-04 for some years in BMW M47R diesels for some years with no issues
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 10 ай бұрын
What was your oil consumption?
@andrewwmacfadyen6958
@andrewwmacfadyen6958 3 ай бұрын
​@@buildanddriveZero oil consumption between 6,000 mile changes
@dzim8822
@dzim8822 Жыл бұрын
When you changed the rings, did you hone the cylinders?
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
I did hone the block BUT you don't need too if everything measures straight. And if you do, it's an alusil block so you need to use a special tool with abrasive pads + a compound... NOT A DINGLEBERRY HONE.
@liamtree1250
@liamtree1250 Жыл бұрын
I have an n53b30a 330i and burns 1L/1000 - 1250 miles so around 1600/2000 km I use 5w-30 mannol now as it's only £22 for 5 litres have not tried a thicker oil thougg
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Try a 5w40 and let me know if it changes anything
@martinp8427
@martinp8427 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video! I wonder what causes this high oil consumption that you have? This is the first video that I've seen from your channel and I also wonder why did you decided to rebuild the engine with new piston rings and so on? In a 125i with N52B30 (N or K, the one with the plastic valve cover) I need to top up 1.5 litres in between oil changes (10000 kms). The tendency is to lose 250ml every 1500 kilometers roughly. I have changed the oil sump gasket with new one and new bolts for it, the front crankshaft seal (where the crank pulley is located), pcv pipes (new design), VANOS solenoids and lastly a cheap valve cover with new gaskets. The valve cover cracked half a year ago next to the pcv diaphragm so I am in need of a new one and even though it is leaking oil from there, it's not that much and still within 250ml in 1500 kms. Keep up the great videos!
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
The high oil consumption is caused by the faulty piston ring design. BMW changed this after 2008 in other n52 engines
@jamesvw769
@jamesvw769 Жыл бұрын
Oil pessure dont mean much its oil flow that really matters. Outside temp is only relitive at startup. After warm up it dont matter one bit. Please educate yourself.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Please explain more
@bobbyr8071
@bobbyr8071 11 ай бұрын
I have the exact same engine in US with 260k miles and it doesn’t really burn any oil. May be 1 quart or liter per 4k miles. I think high revs on autobahn doesn’t help.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 11 ай бұрын
Do you have the n52b25 or n52b30?
@bobbyr8071
@bobbyr8071 10 ай бұрын
I have a 2006 330i. I think it is b30. Absolutely love this car with auto ZF trans. Car has been maintained very well with 7k miles oil change with Mobil one 5w30.
@briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206
@briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206 22 күн бұрын
In the handbook of my car, it says to use a 5W-40 Oil ONLY... My 1998 Toyota Celica has covered 236,000 Miles and is fitted with a 1.8 Litre 7A-FE 4 Cylinder DOHC engine ..OK it only produces a paltry 113 BHP ..However, the speed limit on our Motorways here in the UK (Freeways for American viewers) is 112 KM/H ( 70 MPH) and my car does this with comparable ease. My car is burning a litre of oil every 1,000 Kilometers.. Here in the UK a litre of oil costs around £5.60 GBP (5 Litres cost me £28) I drive around 1500 KM a Month ..So let's look at the cost for me. Option one ..... Top up the oil using 5W-40 as and when required 1.5 Litres per month...Total cost £5.60 x 1.5 = £8.40 GBP of oil a month Option two..... Swop the oil and use a 5W-50 oil and RISK the engine blowing up..... Total cost Around £3,000 GBP for an engine rebuild. I WILL SELECT OPTION ONE..... It is a "No brainer" 😁 But thank you for this video anyway.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 22 күн бұрын
Yes, option 4. Buy an electric car 🚗😂
@markwarnberg9504
@markwarnberg9504 Жыл бұрын
Do the test on an engin that is not so screwed up!
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Engine is rebuilt but has a piston design flaw I didn't know about. New pistons don't burn oil at all.
@TOBYH
@TOBYH Жыл бұрын
My 2008 Camry HYBRID recommended 0-20 weight oi, l guess thinner oil for less resistance when the crank rotates thru the oil for better gas mileage, it never burned any oil at all, guess i got a good one, it was made in Japan. Best car I ever owned, 38-40 MPG on the hwy, not 1 thing happened to it in 8 years, just change the oil. Toyota makes awesome vehicles, so I sold it and got a 2016 Lexus NX 200T, We have owned it 7 years and I just had the servicing done and they couldn't find anything wrong with it. We also have a 2012 Sienna, also a great van, had to replace the water pump at 60k miles though.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Yes I am also a Toyota guy before getting my BMW. My parents car has gone 240,000kms with only basic maintenance. It's amazing!
@ВладимирВладимирович-д7ш2я
@ВладимирВладимирович-д7ш2я 2 ай бұрын
10L /100KM THATS A LOT... HAVE U EVER TRIED 100% PAO?
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 ай бұрын
What's PAO?
@ВладимирВладимирович-д7ш2я
@ВладимирВладимирович-д7ш2я 2 ай бұрын
@@buildanddrive pao is real synthetic oil. usually we use hydrocracking that is only called full synthetic but it is not
@Painting_Inspiration
@Painting_Inspiration Жыл бұрын
A thicker oil WILL cause worse fuel economy. Theres more drag on the engine. Try swimming in honey vs water and see how much more energy you spend to get to the finish line. Theres a reason manufacturers have moved on to thinner and thinner engine oils over the years..........
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Definitely. The thicker oil is only really useful on the track at very high temps.
@Painting_Inspiration
@Painting_Inspiration Жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive yes exactly. It is based on engine temperatures. Hotter engines that use 40 weight oils will have approx the same viscosity as cooler engines that use 30 weight oils at their operating temps. The oil film needs to stay in a fairly strict range of viscosity to do an optimal job. So the weight of oil recommended is based on the engines operating temperature. Too thick or too thin will push it out of its optimal viscosity.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Exactly 👍🏼
@1964Orzel
@1964Orzel Жыл бұрын
try liqui moly ceratec maybe it help. My twingo use 500ml 10kkm
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Sure. Want to buy it for me? 👼
@ChrisPatrick-q6k
@ChrisPatrick-q6k 9 ай бұрын
BMW's a company that seems to worse as time goes on.
@ChrisPatrick-q6k
@ChrisPatrick-q6k 7 ай бұрын
Like Ford
@martinkratochvil238
@martinkratochvil238 Жыл бұрын
I use oil 5W50 (Valvoline, Champion) in M54b25 and is it better than 5W30, 5W40.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
How is it better?
@martinkratochvil238
@martinkratochvil238 Жыл бұрын
1l/2500km with 5w40. Now when i use 5w50 valvoline 1l/4000km
@martinkratochvil238
@martinkratochvil238 Жыл бұрын
And very important is change oil max 7000km, because previous owner use norm BMW long life (30 000km).
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Which engine do you have? I agree not to go much longer to 10k oil changes maxxxx. The first owner did a 22k oil change on the new engine.
@martinkratochvil238
@martinkratochvil238 Жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive I have E46 M54b25. I bought it from the first owner with complete service documentation. But the car had oil change after 30 000km. Motor consumed oil 1l/2500km 5w40. After 4x oil changes (every 5000km) and using 5w50 oil consumption improved to 1l/4000km. And i tried Liqui Moly motor protect and and maybe it's better or placebo efect, i do not know.
@Mark-bd5ci
@Mark-bd5ci 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man I subscribed. It's weird how with my 09 n52b25 once a .25 of a litre drop in the oil reading...oil usage speeds up to .25l per 800km. All up I get around 5k to 6k km per litre of oil on 5w40.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subbing! 🙏🏼The oil sensor isn't very precise. Your oil consumption seems perfect 👍🏼
@Mark-bd5ci
@Mark-bd5ci Жыл бұрын
@Leif Harald longbeard III when was it? And no the comment is not useless
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Yeah I believe after 2008, they changed the piston design and updated the cylinder head for better oil flow to avoid the ticking
@Mark-bd5ci
@Mark-bd5ci Жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive ok cheers. Mine is an Feb 09 build and I thought I still had the old rings. I recently pulled plugs and the threads had oily residue so might be valve leak internally.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is a hairline crack in the cylinder head that would cause that.
@endri15255
@endri15255 Жыл бұрын
You choosed engine oil from market that i buy bred,addinol🤦‍♂️
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
😂
@toninofranco6861
@toninofranco6861 Жыл бұрын
10w40 350.000 km and runs
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Where do you live? Is it a warm climate?
@toninofranco6861
@toninofranco6861 Жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive i live in Italy
@cmte.brazinazzo2061
@cmte.brazinazzo2061 9 ай бұрын
If you treat your car like a tractor for tenths of thoudands of kilometers/miles, it will burn oil. WOT @ 7K rpms is fine for a few times, not all the time.
@pierrejeanes
@pierrejeanes Жыл бұрын
Damnnnn your car is leaking everywhere man
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Bruh, you have no idea 🙃
@pierrejeanes
@pierrejeanes Жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive 🤣🤣😂🤣
@yasser9350
@yasser9350 Жыл бұрын
Bro seriously😂 5w is the viscosity 5w-30 or -40 refer to heat resistance you want to increase viscosity use 10w someting
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Yes. 10w40 is a better oil depending on the brand and the oil lab test. If you follow the oil forums they have a bunch of good oils that are much better than 5w40 and protect better. I am in a cold climate and prefer to change my oil once per year so 5w40 it is for me
@yasser9350
@yasser9350 9 ай бұрын
I understand but curious what is the thicker oil 10w40 or 5w50😅
@jason200912
@jason200912 2 ай бұрын
Use a lower w rating if you want it reliable in winter snow.
@jamesvw769
@jamesvw769 Жыл бұрын
It will stop oil comsumtion because your not gonna have a running engine long using 50 wieght oil. Way to thick.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Yes, 50w is way too much for this engine.
@oldskool1979
@oldskool1979 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind as your oil gets dirtier it gets thicker !
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
How so?
@janadamczyk8911
@janadamczyk8911 8 ай бұрын
Whats with the mask? You're on your own. WT F. Great video. Subscribed. 🇬🇧
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 8 ай бұрын
It was covid time when I filmed but then didn't want to show my face on camera.
@novell80
@novell80 2 ай бұрын
0W40 😉
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 ай бұрын
Do you know a good full synthetic 0w40?
@novell80
@novell80 2 ай бұрын
​@@buildanddrive Petronas Syntium 7000 0W-40
@freddieboykins5518
@freddieboykins5518 11 ай бұрын
2.4azfe 800 miles to a quart 08 Camry😢
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 11 ай бұрын
dang... do those 2.4L really burn that much?
@freddieboykins5518
@freddieboykins5518 11 ай бұрын
@@buildanddrive hell yeah. It’s sad other than that it’s cool.
@axelmoiseslaham452
@axelmoiseslaham452 Жыл бұрын
Put a 10w60
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
The engine will explode
@axelmoiseslaham452
@axelmoiseslaham452 3 ай бұрын
0w40​@@buildanddrive
@axelmoiseslaham452
@axelmoiseslaham452 3 ай бұрын
​​​@@buildanddrivesorry its a j ajoke eje can i mix 0w40 with 5w50? Racing is really my quesiton
@axelmoiseslaham452
@axelmoiseslaham452 3 ай бұрын
​@@buildanddrive do a video of what is better than 3.0 n54 vs el n55 our la somthing avísame y el honda K24
@ΣΤΑΥΡΟΣΓΚΕΡΛΕΣ
@ΣΤΑΥΡΟΣΓΚΕΡΛΕΣ Жыл бұрын
actually no engine is designed to burn oil!(!!!!!!!!!)the reason for your car burning oil, is the low quality and craftmanship of bmw and the failure for not opting for a recall to try and fix flawed engines. seriously this reminds me of the e46 chassis that used to torn apart at 100% rate and bmw didn't issued a recall and someone actually wrote that this chassis is designed to fail to absorb more vibrations!!!!! ahahaha ,hilarius
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Bmw says it's ok if the engine burns 1L/700miles. Anything after that is considered "bad"
@daveunbranded
@daveunbranded 2 жыл бұрын
Are you robbing a store later? Why the gator?
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
This is the funniest comment ever 😂😂😂😂. just don't want to show my face online
@daveunbranded
@daveunbranded 2 жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive why though? Seems like people that know you will know who you are. Give me a day or 2 I can probably post your whole life story
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
@Dave Unbranded I wore the mask during COVid and then decided to just keep going with it. 👍🏼 I want to help people fix their cars and have some fun building engines, that doesn't require my face.
@daveunbranded
@daveunbranded 2 жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive I think it is alienating and you will not get subs that way. If you don't care about subs, then keep doing what you want. Or do what most people do and let it fly. Sometimes your face will get on camera, sometimes not
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thanks for the feedback. It's not about subs for me. I agree that people subscribe to good personalities but im not trying to be a big KZbinr. I have a full time job. This is just for fun and to help people.
@susguy5
@susguy5 Ай бұрын
it's burning oil cause it's a BMW 😛
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Ай бұрын
Yes 😬
@pierrejeanes
@pierrejeanes Жыл бұрын
Japanese 🗾 enginess have tighter what?
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Tighter tolerances on the piston ring gap
@1961Marat
@1961Marat Жыл бұрын
Flip flop
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Wha
@jandejong1286
@jandejong1286 Жыл бұрын
BMW a pain in the a..
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Yes they ARE
@DKK
@DKK 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you wearing a bandanna? I mean you’re outside and it just looks stupid
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
dont wanna show my face.
@vincentcooray9269
@vincentcooray9269 2 жыл бұрын
gangster answer 😂
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
It's true 🤷🏼‍♂️. I was inspired by chrisfix. He doesn't show his face and has the biggest automotive following ever. I get the vibe all these car KZbinrs are chasing clout and attention... I just wanna share what I've learned fixing these damn n52s 😂 and have some fun
@vincentcooray9269
@vincentcooray9269 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Hladka.Atmosfera
@Hladka.Atmosfera Жыл бұрын
Please help me, which piston rings are the best for n52b25, which type, number or manufacturer, thanks mate 👍
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
I talk about that here kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHmyeXyqZp2FmJo
@thanos9973
@thanos9973 11 ай бұрын
20w50 is for this car
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 11 ай бұрын
I will try straight 60W next time 😅
@Norbbbbbb
@Norbbbbbb 2 жыл бұрын
I also have n52b25 with 290000+ km. I use castrol 5w-40 and the oil consumption is about 1L/3000km in the city and 1L/5500km outside the city.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 2 жыл бұрын
Which Castrol? Is it HC oil or full synthetic?
@Norbbbbbb
@Norbbbbbb 2 жыл бұрын
@@buildanddrive castrol edge 5w-40 turbo diesel full synthetic
@Norbbbbbb
@Norbbbbbb Жыл бұрын
I have the first version with gray engine cover from 2007.
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive Жыл бұрын
Guaranteed he does not have the new piston design 🙃
@RobertYonng
@RobertYonng 3 ай бұрын
VALVOLINE RESTORE & PROTECT will fix it. 😉🤣😂
@buildanddrive
@buildanddrive 3 ай бұрын
Send me some and I'll try it.
@aciddiver1978
@aciddiver1978 Жыл бұрын
With 5-50 oil u can get trouble with clearances in crankshaft bearings. Not lubricating properly.
@WayToManyAssassins
@WayToManyAssassins 2 ай бұрын
yeah its a stupid idea to use anything else than what the owners manual says
@NineInchTyrone
@NineInchTyrone 15 күн бұрын
Why. 5W is thin
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