Can Catholics be Zionists? (Guest: Dr. Matthew Tsakanikas)

[@sebastianofmilan]

Christ is King!

[@aleksandrablaszczyk5971]

Dr. Matthew you are always very knowledgeable!!! Thank you!! Jesus Christ is King!! 🙏❤️

[@AJMacDonaldJr]

Great interview! Dr. Tsakanikas understand sacred Scripture and gave a wonderful explanation of salvation history.

[@makethisgowhoosh]

This leaves more questions unanswered than answered.

[@alicemacdonald1550]

Excellent biblical theology! Thank you! 🙂

[@femaleKCRoyalsFan]

We shouldn't be....with the way Christians are treated there....the ones in the gaza strip are starving. Christians there rely on pilgrimage groups for survival....but because of the violence there aren't any

[@jorgen7180]

Is this a joke or just ignorance? 1- Gaza is not Israel, and Israel has had nothing to do with it since 2005, after having controlled it for only 38 years. In 2005, even Jewish cemeteries were relocated to Israel. At that time, the Christian population was growing. However, after the Palestinians took over, the Christian population was reduced by 80%-not 10%, not 40%, but 80%. Living in Gaza as a Christian is 1,000 times worse than living in Israel, and it is not because of Israel. 2- The Christian population in Gaza is now 0.04% of the total, while in Israel it is 1.5% and continues to grow. We know what the Holy Land would be like under Muslim control. We went to the Holy War-the Crusades-because they blocked access to holy places for Christians. And it didn't end there. Every time Muslims have had control over the Holy Land, it has been a terrifying nightmare for Christians. Only Israel has permitted equal access to all holy places, including those for Muslims. 3- Gazans are receiving the equivalent of 3,000 calories a day in food, provided by the U.S. and Israel. Have you ever heard of an army feeding its enemy? Well, the IDF does. If anyone is starving in Gaza, it is Hamas' fault for stealing the food. Yet, Hamas still has 80% or more approval from the Gaza population.

[@mdavis201]

​@@jorgen7180thank you! The ignorance is staggering.

[@RobertPentangelo]

@@jorgen7180 First lie: Israel created a huge outdoor prison controlling by sea, air and land all that came out of Gaza. Now they they have created a huge outdoor execution chamber. Viva Christo Re Long Live the Memory of the Gallant Men of the USS Liberty.

[@RobertPentangelo]

@@mdavis201 Ignorance for the some yes, malevolence for the others.

[@jorgen7180]

@@RobertPentangelo It is called borders, and Gaza also shares borders with Egypt. Since 1948, Gazans have chosen to become mortal and rabid enemies of the newly founded country, Israel. It’s important to note that in 1948, these same people refused to create the State of Palestine, despite Resolution 181 establishing two countries, not just Israel, with the land divided 50-50. On five occasions, Gazans crossed the border, along with six Arab armies, to exterminate all Jews and take over the Holy Land. The actions of October 7th were not the first barbaric attacks on Israel. Despite this history, Gazans can still go to Israel, and Israel even grants them work permits. It must be the only "prison" in the world where inmates can visit the jailers' homes, while not a single one of the jailers can go to Gaza. It must also be the only prison where inmates can receive thousands of military-grade missiles and materials to continue making them. Even more absurd is the claim that Israel has turned Gaza into an outdoor execution chamber. The percentage of civilian casualties relative to the total population is 0.91% since October 2023. The population of Gaza has grown by approximately 2100% from 1948 to 2024, making it arguably the worst and least effective outdoor execution chamber in history. Egypt has more restrictions on its border with Gaza than Israel does. Why? Because they don't want the Palestinians in Egypt, likely due to previous attempts by Palestinians to destabilize Egypt. Gaza receives billions of dollars in free aid every year, at no cost to them, from Europe, the UN, the US, Israel, Arab nations, and others. Had they chosen peace and prosperity, they would be far better off than Dubai. However, they have chosen war and death. In the north, Lebanon was once a CHRISTIAN COUNTRY, the Jewel of the Middle East, a magnificent nation, until the Palestinians arrived. They too brought war, destruction, and death. Half of the Christian population had to flee or were murdered. The country was destroyed and transformed into an Islamic state. Today, Christians in Lebanon are second-class citizens. Palestinians have chosen not only to be Israel's enemy but also to make Christians their enemies. People must read history before repeating the same idiotic propaganda spread by the enemies of Christianity and the West. Yes, the "outdoor jail" narrative is completely false. Viva Cristo Rey. May the Lord bless you and your family.

[@nicolamcostello]

Another crucial point in the Zionism debate is WHO controls the holy land and holy sites. Prior to World War I it was the Islamic Ottoman empire, which viciously persecuted Christians in the Armenian and Assyrian genocides as primary examples. People who criticize modern Israel in the name of the Palestinian Christians often forget their history of persecution prior to modern Israel So, if we just withdraw support for today's Israel, there's no historical reason to believe life will get better for the indigenous Christians of the region. The Islamists will just step into the vacuum and reduce Christians to dhimmitude status.

[@johnfisher247]

Jews also suffered under Islamic rule and the Koran and hadiths demand the subjugation of Jews and Christian who it says are "friends with eachother" and should nit be taken as friends by Moslems. They must be treated with deception. Both Jews and Christians rightly reject Mohamed's false religion. Today in Israel Christians are not conscripted and there are small numbers in the Israel Defence Force. Dreuse serve in the IDF. Christians who live in Israel should serve in the IDF as citizens. Moslems cannot because their ideology makes them clear enemies of the Jews. The very miniscule 1000 Christians in Gaza should have evacuated out when the conflict started. They are simply hostages for Hamas to play with.

[@mustipunyaemail]

Lmao. Christian & jew lives better under muslim khalifah than under jews. There was a peace in palestine b4 immigrant jews starting war in 1948.

[@mustipunyaemail]

Christians & jews also live safe under muslim khalifah in spain for hundread of years. But spanish inquisition kill & expel anybody that not convert to christian.

[@Bithia65]

@@johnfisher247 Actually there are Muslims in the IDF who are against the terrorists that they have suffered from for generations. 4 Arab Muslims were killed on Oct xx in one car simply because they had Israeli plates on the car. Other Muslims were killed too. Many in fact. One was a paramedic. I watched his family mourn his loss. Did you know that the Christians in Gaza managed to minister during the war and 200 Arab Muslims came to the Lord during the war at one point??? God has his finger in every pie!!

[@Bithia65]

@@mustipunyaemail What dumb news did you read - did you get this off the back of a cereal packet in some backwards place with no internet? NO Jews or Christians lived well under the Ottoman Empire. They were Brutal, stole Christian boys for the Janissaries and force converted them and sent them to fight their own people. The girls they stole for the Harems. There was no peace. The Muslims of Palestine side with Hitler - that says it all doesn't it...the Mufti of Jerusalem was his guest and asked him to bring the Nassi solution to Palestine!!!! Peace? In your dreams. Only those who are the MASTERs think there is peace - the slaves know there is none. 5 Arab nations attacked Israel the day after they declared their nation...go and read about it. Israel has Always been attacked - and been on the defensive... I am so sick of Muslims being given such ridiculous misinformation in today's internet availability. Time to get educated.

[@g.p.ryecroft]

Eric and Matthew at 45:00 blithely dismiss St. Paul's writing in Romans about the mass conversion of Jews at the end of time. Brothers, I implore you to read the books "If You Believed Moses" volume 1 and 2 by Fr. James Mawdsley, a traditional Catholic priest. These books, read with an open mind and open Bible, will shift your paradigm, as will his whole New/Old series of books.

[@Lightwillwin]

This is not the Jews land ? This is so much heresy against the New Testament and what the Lord has said .

[@g.p.ryecroft]

Lightwillwin, I appreciated your comment because I thought the same thing. Matthew takes a parable then leaps ahead a few chapters to propose Jesus said the Jews would lose their land. Wow, talk about twisting Scripture into a pretzel. Matthew betrays his dim view of Scripture by seeing Israel as merely "real estate in the Middle East." I was not impressed or persuaded by his arguments.

[@Truth_sets_me_free]

The Israel-arab issue is not a religious issue for Catholics (probably not for any historic non-zionist Christian viewpoint either). The fact that vocal elements on both sides involved are seeing the conflict in terms of religious nationalisms, and that significant influencers on each side are expecting some kind of utopian future ("deception of antichrist" comes to mind), seems to make this an intractable issue. I think what is required would be a solution based on natural law and natural justice (I have no proposal). Thank you.

[@TamCEE-k4c]

“We cannot give approval to this movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem - but we could never sanction it. The soil of Jerusalem, if it was not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church I cannot tell you anything different. The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people.” “And so, if you come to Palestine and settle your people there, we shall have churches and priests ready to baptize all of you.” Pope Pius X to Theodore Herzl in 1904

[@trnslash]

When’s EMJ coming on?

[@Bithia65]

Questions for you: 1. What do you think the God of Israel thinks of Jews being banned from their holiest site whilst the Muslims are allowed to govern it despite the ownership of Israel? 2. What do you think that the God of Israel thinks about the presence of the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque on the Temple mount - given its Anti-Christ writings across the walls of the former and the latter dedicated to a foreign god? Given that Mt Zion belongs to the God of Israel not the god of Mecca? 1 John 2:22 And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist. 3. How is the Anti-Christ going to sit in the Temple during the Tribulation - if there is no Temple? ◄ 2 Thessalonians 2 ► 4 *He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.* What Temple of God would it be according to Dr Tsakanikas? WHERE is Paul speaking about?

[@Bithia65]

QUESTION: Where is the law that says that the Jews CANNOT worship on the Temple mount in the Torah. Isn't that racist?

[@cathyw2989]

Thank goodness we are getting a more balanced narrative. I've been to Israel twice and i am saddened by the lack of logic in many Catholics understanding of this crises. God bless.

[@jimfoard5671]

It's very disturbing that at 5:25 Dr. Tsakanikas uses the term "occupying" to refer to the Jews returning to their homeland. This is the same way those who refuse to recognize Israel as a legitimate state refer to Zion, along with the oft used genocidal trope "From the river to the sea". Israel actually bought the land they now live on, they were never "occupiers". Unfortunately an education in Rome is not always a pedigree for historical authority and accuracy. At 6:57 he said "that people who 'claim' to be of Jewish ancestry are returning to their Jewish homeland". It's not hard to see where he is going with this.

[@BronxCat]

Eric listened to Kennedys podcast!! Good

[@aloyalcatholic5785]

Matt Fradd and Lofton will be horribly shocked

[@Daniel_Abraham1099]

They’re shilling for Israel makes their content unwatchable.

[@imankhandaker6103]

ANYBODY can be a hypocrite - though their reasons can vary.

[@liammccann8763]

Piercing insight gentlemen.

[@MarkJBosse]

This guy had some good stuff to say, but he's also way too conciliatory towards Islam. The "not all Muslims" trope. The hand wringing about the buses with no Mosque... can you blame them?? As he admits, the Muslims won't even allow Jews to quietly pray to themselves up there. So ultimately, yes, I would love to see the land under Catholic control where everyone is free to pray. But if that is not to be, and I have to choose between Jewish or Muslim control. Jewish all day long.

[@crushtheserpent]

Completely disagree. I love to tell you why but my lengthy reply will only be censored by this platform.

[@crushtheserpent]

Which is part of the problem!

[@RobertPentangelo]

So you support a state established by Communist terrorists who murdered British troops. and have been murdering and oppressing Palestinians for generations. Now they are committing genocide and their arrogance knows no limits. Why should it? They control the US Congress as you may have seen in Satanyahu's rant to the Congress.

[@Bithia65]

@@RobertPentangelo Stop drinking Islam's cool aide. It will give you indigestion and lead you straight into the arms of the Anti-Christ.

[@grahamcombs4752]

To borrow a quote, what we have here is "a failure to communicate." This situation requires two conversations; the professor essentially acknowledges only one. The Israelis have engaged in negotiation after negotiation and in the end the other side would not sign off on any "two-state solution." What followed would be attack after attack after attack. That isn't only politics, it's history and what we have here is essentially one serious and truthful theological conversation. In one encounter with a upper middle class Dearborn resident, I was literally screamed, screeched at in an anti semitic rant. She spoke and speaks for many. The first initiative by Pius XIth and Pius XIIth in the late 1930s to save Jews involved Jewish converts to the Catholic faith. 200,000. Brazil, Argentina and other Catholic countries at first agreed to take in robust numbers. But in end those countries whittled down the numbers to near irrelevancy. This from the Peter Seewald first volume of the Benedict XVI biography. As for the Faith... I've never heard the word "abortion" from any Catholic pulpit (the ambos now abandoned) other than the Assumption Grotto in Detroit and that parish's former Pastor was essentially lawfared and publically persecuted for being what one Catholic layman described as being "too ridged." He's now "assisting." Shoemaker stick to thy last..."

[@JolicoeurAbear]

Forgot to mention 800,000 Jews who fled or a forced out of Muslim countries not all from Europe by any stretch

[@cathyw2989]

Please listen again. You have missed the message of this video and it is such an important one.

[@T_frog1]

Look up the Nakba. 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were violently expelled from their land in 1948. Their villages were destroyed so Israel could be created

[@Bithia65]

@@T_frog1 THAT is the lie of the Terrorists. WHAT actually happened? The Truth: The day after declaring Israel to be a nation - 5 Arab nations far superior and well equipped attacked Israel. The ARAB nations told the Pals to LEAVE - that they would fight the war and Win, then they could go back and claim the homes and booty of the Israelis. The 5 Arab nations LOST to fledgling Israel who had 3 tanks??? Unless the God of Israel was on their side - there was absolutely no way they would win. You should hear about all the miracles that have happened in every single war including this one. Including Angels present. Stories that reveal that the God of Israel's hand is on this people. Google them! The mine field is my favourite. And the angels in Gaza. BUT the Pals who left sided with the 5 Arab nations and became Israel's ENEMY. They could not be let back in because they were literally the enemy. They lost the right of return by siding AGAINST Israel. The Pals that STAYED with Israel - became Israeli citizens and have equal rights today. 20% of Israel is Arab Pals and come from those who STAYED. Those 5 nations refused to take the Pals and left them in the territories of Gaza run by Egypt and the West Bank run by Jordan. The UN got involved and turned them into the only perpetual refugees on earth, giving them billions of dollars annually to be a thorn in Israel's side. The Nakba is a lie. Far less Pals than the Jews ejected from the Middle East - 900,000 to be exact. Nobody talks about that do they??? Hmmm. Israel was created BEFORE the Nakba.

[@joni3503]

Professor, if you say that the Temple Mount is considered "occupied", what do you mean, occupied by who ? and considered by who ? the Temple Mount is Mount Moriah, where all the good, and true sacrifices have been made to the true God of Israël, the God of the Bible. Beginning with Abraham's sacrifice, then the sacrifices of the Temple of Solomon, and ending with the last and highest Sacrifice, that of Jesus Christ himself. All these sacrifices have been offered by the people of God, the jews, and the Last sacrifice has been offered to the Eternal Father, by the Son of God Himself. Why would muslims have any kind of right to be on that place or to control it, and by which authority ? it is even questionable whether the Dome of the Rock was an islamic building to begin with in the year 691. it was built in Orthodox christian style, and the inscriptions mention a "blessed one", but nobody knows who is meant with that. What kind of right do they have there. The name of Jerusalem isn't even mentioned anywhere in the quoran, and islamic coins didn't exist until the 9th or 10th century.

[@seanjones1020]

I'll make it real simple ... NO!

[@jimfoard5671]

It's very disturbing that at 5:25 Dr. Tsakanikas uses the term "occupying" to refer to the Jews returning to their homeland. This is the same way those who refuse to recognize Israel as a legitimate state refer to Zion, along with the oft used genocidal trope "From the river to the sea". Israel actually bought the land they now live on, they were never "occupiers". Unfortunately an education in Rome is not always a pedigree for historical authority and accuracy. At 6:57 he said "that people who 'claim' to be of Jewish ancestry are returning to their Jewish homeland". It's not hard to see where he is going with this.

[@RobertPentangelo]

How about the "genocidal" actions of the murderous Netanyahu regime? Plenty of Genocidal tropes about the Palestinians, too. The Jews have ZERO right to Palestinian land either legally, morally, or Biblically.

[@Bithia65]

@@RobertPentangelo Considering the Jews have always lived there for 3000 years - there has not been a time when there has not been a Jew. The Colonialist Ottoman Islamic Empire oppressed the Palestinian Jews and Christians of Palestine for 500 years - and the previous Islamic Empire before then. The Arab Palestinians in league with the Oppressors continued the oppression and joined forces with the guy with the moustache during WW2. Thank GOD - they lost the war and Britain set the Christians and Jews of Palestine free from Oppression. And that is the Problem - the Arab Ms of Palestine wanted to continue to be the boss. Bad luck. Britain divided Palestine into a home for the Palestinian Jews and a home for the Palestinian Arabs - Israel and Jordan. Two state soln. BUT no...Still not good enough. The Jews were attacked by 5 Arab countries the day after Nationhood. If you bothered to listen to the truth from Israel's side you would change your POV. Israel does not commit genocide. It is not part of their character nor their faith. Some ethnos have it embedded into them - Israel does not. They have experienced genocide and reject it for others. However the very first pogrom against the Jews was committed by Mohammed when he killed 900 men and boys by beheading them in one day, and enslaving all the women and children. He is their example today. The Jews also BOUGHT their land in Israel sold by Arabs who thought the place a useless malaria filled swamp. Which it was. God transformed it. Now they want it back! The Jews have every right to the land of Israel - it was given to them in a everlasting covenant by God. Ishmael got Arabia. The birthright of Abraham was passed to Isaac and then Jacob. It is the inheritance of Abraham. It cannot be stolen from them without the God of Israel reacting.

[@Floridiansince94]

Not once these gentlemen mentioned the terrorist attack that provoked the war - complete ignored 10/7-

[@sebastianofmilan]

The real question is what provoked the attack. Perfidious behavior.

[@MarkJBosse]

@@sebastianofmilan This is disgusting. Shame on you. There is nothing that justifies what happened on 10/7

[@RobertPentangelo]

More recycled and recycled talking points.

[@T_frog1]

Look up the Nakba. This all started in 1948, not 2023.

[@Bithia65]

@@T_frog1 I answered you in another spot. The Arab nations created the Nakba.

[@thenzlander7605]

The answer to the question is NO!

[@Bithia65]

The answer is YES because the God of Israel is a Zionist.

[@Lightwillwin]

The Romans destroyed the 2nd temple- the temple Solomon built. The Romans crucified Jesus. The Romans used crucifixion. The Romans originated Roman Catholicism.. wWAKE UP!!!!

[@Bithia65]

Some corrections: The Romans did not originate Roman Catholicism. The first Split in the Church did not happen until the 11th C between East and West. That is the first time it was called the Roman Church. East and West. The Eastern Church - the Byzantines were destroyed by Islam. Actually the Romans did not destroy Solomon's temple - the first temple - the Babylonians did that. The 2nd Temple was built under Cyrus and added to by Herod. This was the one destroyed by the Romans. Yes the Romans were into crucifixion and at the behest of the Jewish leaders they crucified Jesus. Pilate however, washed his hands of the death of Jesus. BUT with all said and done - YOU and I are responsible for the death of Jesus on the cross - for he died for your sins and mine. We put him on that cross with our sins. If we weren't sinners - he would not have had to die. There is no point in blaming others, whether the Jews or the Romans...all mankind is guilty.

[@crushtheserpent]

Absolutely... categorically... NOT!

[@Daniel_Abraham1099]

NO!

[@Floridiansince94]

Remember Lepanto??????

[@RobertPentangelo]

Remember the Reconquista? The Spanish Inquisition was focused not only on Jewish false conversos but Moslem ones also-as their ancestors where allied against the Catholic forces.

[@timmoore8437]

The Catholic position historically has always been the teaching of replacement of the Old Covenant with the New. How can there be any argument with this?

[@timoleary9336]

How can there be any argument with this? Because it's wrong! The fathers of the church, with viscious hatred for the Jews, decided that God is done with them and we now get all the promises to Israel. The Roman Catholic Church is responsible for the Replacement Theology that led to the murder of Jews, such as the Spanish Inquisition that murdered the Jews and now - where does this all end up - with you supporting the Palestinian Terrorists. From Replacement Theology to supporting Hamas - this LIE MUST DIE!

[@Bithia65]

I just looked up Catholic Answers: QUOTING Catholic Answers: dispensationalism asserts that God still has future plans for the Jewish people and deduces that the Church is not spiritual Israel; covenant theology asserts that the Church is spiritual Israel and deduces that God has no future plans for the Jews different than his plans for any other people. The Catholic Church is able to acknowledge the truth that is found in both positions. Along with the dispensationalists the Church acknowledges that God does still have plans for the Jews as a unique people (Catechism of the Catholic Church 674). Paul clearly indicates this in his writings, especially in Romans 9-11, where he indicates God continues to fulfill his promises about the Jewish people by preserving a remnant of Jewish believers in Christ (11:1-5). This indicates a special place for Israel, for no other people has a promise that there will always be a believing remnant. God also has future plans for the Jewish people: One day the Jewish people as a nation will return to Christ, and this will be one of the signs of the Second Coming and the resurrection of the dead (11:12, 15). On the other hand, along with covenant theologians, Catholics acknowledge that the Church is spiritual Israel or, in Catholic parlance, the “new Israel” (cf. CCC 877). This too is indicated in Paul’s writings: In Romans 9:6 he says that “not all who are of Israel are Israel.”

[@Bithia65]

This theory of replacement theology ignores a huge portion of biblical prophesy. Romans 11 All Israel Will Be Saved 25I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not be conceited: A hardening in part has come to Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come from Zion; He will remove godlessness from Jacob. 27And this is My covenant with them when I take away their sins.”h 28Regarding the gospel, they are enemies on your account; but regarding election, they are loved on account of the patriarchs. 29For God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable.

[@bonjour98]

Invite Roy Schoemann and/or Trudy Gold

[@Lightwillwin]

There was never a Palestinian land. The Romans called Israelis’s Palestinian to insult them which comes from the Philistines . The Bible even states God the Father has said its the Jewish peoples land he gave them. Strange how the vatican is against the Jewish people and the Holy city is NOT in Rome it IS JERUSALEM!!!!!

[@Bithia65]

I have a feeling that these guys are fringe elements. I used to like Life site news but I never knew that they were Anti-Semitic. I don't think that the Vatican's position is the same as what these 2 guys believe. This belief is replacement theology, and I do not think it is Catholic dogma or doctrine either. QUOTING Catholic Answers: dispensationalism asserts that God still has future plans for the Jewish people and deduces that the Church is not spiritual Israel; covenant theology asserts that the Church is spiritual Israel and deduces that God has no future plans for the Jews different than his plans for any other people. The Catholic Church is able to acknowledge the truth that is found in both positions. Along with the dispensationalists the Church acknowledges that God does still have plans for the Jews as a unique people (Catechism of the Catholic Church 674). Paul clearly indicates this in his writings, especially in Romans 9-11, where he indicates God continues to fulfill his promises about the Jewish people by preserving a remnant of Jewish believers in Christ (11:1-5). This indicates a special place for Israel, for no other people has a promise that there will always be a believing remnant. God also has future plans for the Jewish people: One day the Jewish people as a nation will return to Christ, and this will be one of the signs of the Second Coming and the resurrection of the dead (11:12, 15). On the other hand, along with covenant theologians, Catholics acknowledge that the Church is spiritual Israel or, in Catholic parlance, the “new Israel” (cf. CCC 877). This too is indicated in Paul’s writings: In Romans 9:6 he says that “not all who are of Israel are Israel.” I guess I am a dispensationalist. I thought I was just a normal bible Believing Christian!!!

[@edukaeshn]

NOPE

[@RobertPentangelo]

One of the "fruits" of Vatican 2 is making Zionism acceptable even a good thing to N.O. Catholics-it is part of the Judaizing of the Catholic Church by active agents pushing false doctrines. There is also a neo-con strain in the Bogus Ordo Church-George Weigel-certain writers for National Review and the National Catholic Register. They are not quite as virulent as the "Christian" Zionist Protestants nor as numberous but they are still there. The is an explanation for this-let see who figures it out.

[@stringsandpipes7548]

Yes - because the Jews deserve their own homeland in the ancient land they occupied since before the common era. Any reasonable person can see that.

[@seanjones1020]

Why do they deserve it when Jesus prophesied their dispersion as punishment? And the only way they come home is in the Catholic Church where they are meant to be.

[@taylorclear-g8z]

Who told you this was “reasonable” when there were already Christians and Muslims living there? Where are THEY supposed to go? Are they supposed to live under Israeli Jewish Law? How has that worked for the West Bank Palis? The Palis stuck in Gaza which was Philistia and not part of Canaan?

[@edukaeshn]

"We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem but we could never sanction it. The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people. If you come to Palestine and settle your people there, we will have churches and priests ready to baptize all of you." -Pope St. Pius X

[@seanjones1020]

I don't know if you guys can see my original post but the synagogue controlled YT seems to have deleted it. Jesus dispersed the Js for a reason as punishment so that they come to His Church to be saved.

[@RobertPentangelo]

@@edukaeshn Bravo. Bravo. Bravo. Right from the Pope directly to Herzl's face, Vatican City, 1904.

[@MrJoebrooklyn1969]

Christ is King!!