Can China develop its own chip industry? | Inside Story

Semiconductor chips are a vital component in everything from smart phones, to cars and even military hardware.
China has been looking to ensure its supplies, but it's now facing a major problem.
The Netherlands is curbing exports of essential technology used to manufacture the most advanced chips.
China says the U.S. is behind this move.
So how will this impact China's high-tech ambitions?
Presenter: Adrian Finighan
Guests
Steven Erlanger, Chief Diplomatic Correspondent in Europe for the New York Times.
Emily Benson, Director of the Project on Trade and Technology at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Warwick Powell, Adjunct Professor at Queensland University of Technology.
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[@Fightback2023]

Two months later the answer is "Yes, China can develop its own chip industry" 😂😂

[@williamjoseph1300]

What kind of chips Doritos?

[@Fightback2023]

@@williamjoseph1300 Americans are coping hard still😂

[@salimadiyo9442]

@@Fightback2023 this aged well

[@faroutylq]

As a Chinese I know we are still pretty far from our own full-chain chip manufacturing, but I am confident it can be realized one day. I am a physics grad student, and I saw many people in my cohort changed their career route to help build up the chip industry, since the sanctions started several years ago. One example might be my classmate who gave up CalTech PhD offer in particle physics, but went to chip design related PhD in Chinese Academy of Science. In our words, we don’t want to be stuck at our neck.(卡脖子） It is not uncommon that well educated people in my country values their contribution to our country more than personal interest.

[@ziwenzhao7581]

兄弟多谢啦。前路坎坷，加油啊！

[@greenallsimon3394]

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[@yueri-bb4dn]

有你们在，我就放心了，加油

[@user-jm2vf1vi8b]

加油兄弟！

[@GTFO_0]

Ypu will do bros best regards from sikkim

[@onestand2338]

The journalist looks serious when asking whether US was behind the Netherlands bane. Even ordinary citizen in a far away village in Africa knows that.

[@lettucesalad3560]

Where was COVID19 from though?

[@marczhu7473]

​@@lettucesalad3560fort detrick usa subcontractor China Wuhan. 👌

[@GeorgeChuy]

An elephant in a China shop.

[@alisanto9114]

@@lettucesalad3560 from US

[@avil8686]

True😂

[@DavidDONG-ib8xl]

As a Chinese, I want to say loudly: Thank you America！

[@user-ch4wc2rf6x]

😅 I know that thank you! As a father whose kids are American ( I was not born there), I truly sympathize with China. I believe the US is wrong. China deserves where it is and where it is heading!

[@HTeo-og1lg]

I don't believe it is for national defence security, for one minute. The give-away is that military weapons does not require high-end chips that are below 14 nm IC chips. It is only consumer mobile phones that require high-end chips. The second give-away is that after the initial ban on the EUV machines, 3 months later, even DUV machines are also banned. DUV is only for making lower-end chips. So, it is obvious trying to suffocate Chinese business from making chips for EV vehicles, air-conditioners, and other white goods that are used in homes. The objectives are obviously to curb the economy development of China. So, unless national security includes keeping competitors down from growing economy, then it makes sense.

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

If you steal people's intellectual property you can get blowback. Now the wolf warrior knows.

[@happymelon7129]

This is bully , it is NOT a competition when only one side(U$) can change rules. Just like your classmate use his family power to force the stationary shop NOT to sell stationary to you.

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

@@happymelon7129 so you are saying what's China's own is China's and what US owns is also China's... how does that make sense?

[@MrGanbat84]

Yes, US thinks we are stupid

[@jace1113]

​@@duhaneyparkclassics7484I don't know how you came to that conclusion

[@darvidkoh2707]

The topic is can China develop its chip industry and it is barely touched upon. Instead we have various westerners talking about the why and wherefores of US and western policies. For goodness sake, get an industry insider's take on whether China can do it. Necessity is the mother of invention and certainly that is a consideration. Just as China's rise is unstoppable, China's chip development will be unstoppable.

[@RosscoAW]

There's no point. China already has it's own domestic chip industry, it's just not manufacturing the same things or at the same scale as Taiwan is specific 7nm and smaller chips that typify products consumed by Westerners. There's plenty of domestic applications China's domestic chip industry is already perfectly capable of satisfying; it's parity with the US-owned, TSMC-dominated 7nm and smaller categories of semis that is being used as a stick to beat China. It seems simply inevitable that China will develop comparable and probably more advanced manufacturing capabilities come the end of this current semi R&D cycle (a la the building out of factories and scaling of end-production supply chains). Taiwan won't be the leading edge forever, now that everybody's made it abundantly clear that China has every reason to obviate that strategic concern as soon as possible. America will simply be forced to accept being sidelined, eventually, as it will in every other arena; the world is multipolar now, already, whether or not American arrogance allows America to act accordingly early enough (for their own sake) or not. The rest of the world, meanwhile, will be all the better for America's decadence and failure -- it has proved itself to be an irresponsible global hegemon, and a purveyor of global terror for no greater a purpose than the maintenance of America's own socioeconomic-ethnic hierarchy. America has abused and used all of it's moral credit, already; the future of humanity post 2050 is already being written, in Mandarin. PS: It's debatable that there is already the technical capacity to produce Chinese domestic alternatives to a 7nm architecture (potentially at the 14nm scale they already produce domestically in preexisting Chinese fabs), the only caveat being they can't yet produce these new designs at a scale comparable to TSMC (ie feeding a global market). China literally just needs a decade (or two, tops) to fully capex into and build out every viable strategic and tactical industry they care to sequester away from foreign alternatives, given their economic capacity and global dependency on China ensures that China can unilaterally dominate any sector it wants that isn't already currently strategically dominated by the US. And, in that sense, of the few dozen high-tech industries that stand to be dominated by state-held verticals, China already dominates *most* of those high-technologies: 7nm and smaller semiconductor manufacturing at a global scale is just one of the *few* that is still owned by American shareholders and not the Chinese state/companies. The question really is whether or not China wants to continue to weather the storm and see if they can win out, diplomatically and politically, by using the situation (America ganging up on China's economic and high-tech development) to win brownie points with the global south, so as to reorient global rules based international organizations more toward China's multipolar goals, or if China views the strategic economic threat from America as sufficient to actually aggressively invest in and on-shore a comparable-to-7nm-global-industry over the next decade. They'll probably just do both, and win-win, as they always do. TL;DR: America is only thinking about the next 5-10 years, tops, and arguably only the next ~2 (mid-term and presidential election intervals). China, in response, is shrugging and issuing a bunch of press statements blaming America for being arrogant, while continuing their predetermined (partially secret) plans for the next 5-, 10-, 20-, and 27- year intervals, unconcerned. America is incapable of planning and strategizing on a scale that can account for and counter Chinese plans, so it's kind of pointless to consider. China will simply pivot and continue to salami slice in the interim, while using every available opportunity to virtue signal against America's imperial decadence in a way that scores it win after win after win from the global south states that have historically been exploited, discarded, ignored, and patronized down to by the West.

[@stevendefehr4393]

darvidkoh Great comment ❗️

[@zprodigalson]

Chips are man made, not god made. With their human resource, China will outdo their competitors and wean them off. That’s why America is scrabbling to build a plant in Arizona.

[@aliceloke2679]

@@RosscoAW Your comment mirrors mine. Do note that nothing is talked about the migration of scientists back to China. This phenomena is totally left out in all the media outlets. Time is on China's side.

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

Good luck reverse engineering lithography machines the most complex thing mankind has ever made.

[@julioduan7130]

When the rules of WTO isn’t favorable for the USA, USA just abandoned the rules and didn’t insist on rules based order anymore.

[@th1910]

China security concern jail 10 million Uyghur peoples. China military concern control all social media, China security concern spying on million of Tibetan peoples.

[@Aloh-od3ef]

I don’t think you understand what the WTO Is and how it functions. Nearly everything is does benefits poor and underdeveloped nations!

[@Aloh-od3ef]

I noticed you missed out the fact china still tells the WTO, that it’s a developing country that needs to have all of the discounts and tax reductions offered to developing nations. China has a space program, aircraft carriers, high speed rail, skyscrapers, 4G and 5G. China is not a developing country. It’s been developed! If china stopped bending the rules to suit them, and played by the same rules as everyone else. America would not be objecting 😂

[@Mman.]

You are correct, Sir.

[@tsarusar]

Modern oil industry, Solar cells, combustion engine.. list goes long.. all is invented by eu/us.. Why would ASML give up their nummber 1 income.. is like goin back to farmland. Be glad that u could do industrial revolution 1,2,3,4 in just few decades.. it took Eu and us centuries... Ungreteful Communist people and those who follow ur propganda..

[@jiawang1743]

Funny thing is: If the Kirin 9000s is produced with Non-US factors, it proves the US sancstion was a joke. If the Kirin 9000s is produced with somewhat US factors, it proves the US sancstion was a joke.

[@tonywei423]

Well, that was two month ago, now Huawei mate 60 pro came out and has been proved to have their own designed and manufactured 7nm CPU.

[@chessdaddy0720]

The same thing happened to the international space station that US disallowed China to use it. But look at now, the US *international* space station will end its operation soon. And China's own international space station (the better one) is starting its operation.

[@Anonymous------]

USA doesn't have any space station, the one it's using belongs to Russia.

[@GeorgeChuy]

​@@Anonymous------ An embarrassing correction.

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

The co-coping and the cosigning of the global south is hilarious... A EUV lithography machine isn't a ball point pen.

[@MrGanbat84]

Yes, US thinks we are stupid

[@taijistar9052]

The space station age is different from now, when China is lead by different leaders and it’s economy is doing differently

[@nickavanti]

HW's own Kirin 9000s advanced chip for its newly released Mate 60 Pro has answered this question perfectly.

[@kko-punch7059]

I agree with a CEO of some major tech companies in China said, these machines are man made not god made. China will make them! And will sell them a lot cheaper.

[@davidhughes4527]

And then ASML will be fooked.

[@MrJdsenior]

Right, of course, just like they FINALLY made it to the moon with a stupid rover, about 55 years after two other countries did that, right? And they've done little else in space. How long to get a man there and back do you think, 50 years and counting after we did? I'm on the edge of my seat.

[@kko-punch7059]

@@MrJdsenior ok I give USA a lot of credit in many areas. I’m not here to discredit you well educate n wealthy Americans. Everything takes money to do. China had been falling behind due to ONE weak government (Qing Dynasty 1800s) that allowed many foreign invasions that destroyed and looted our nation and set China back for few decades to recoup and regroup. Now we are back and about to get in front of you. I bet you people are not comfortable with that !! (Otherwise USA wouldn’t be continuously suppressing, sanctioning China…up to this date). Yes , America walked a few miles ahead. Now China is at the level once USA was. We definitely is very capable of doing what you Americans can do, or even better. We Chinese people definitely are not subpar to Americans in any way. In fact China is ahead of America in many tech areas(5G communication, now on to 6G);Automation manufacturing…. China took less than 40years to lift 800+million of their people (more than 2 times of USA population)out of extreme poverty; built 26,000+ miles of high speed railroad network across the country; built the largest dam; when USA rejects China to use the international space station and didn’t let China use the GPS, they created their own navigation system Beidou which is more precise than the American GPS, and they built their own space station; they even built more infrastructure like longest sea bridge, largest airports(not only for themselves but for many countries across the globe… all accomplished IN LESS THAN 30 years. I can name few more things that China had accomplished that USA couldn’t even think of doing . Name me one country (including USA)has this type of achievement, within this short period of time, with limited financial resources and efficiency. So please don’t discredit China so conveniently.

[@ylstorage7085]

@@MrJdsenior Mars rover, which is harder. also, a friendly reminder, you are defaulted into team USA. USA is indeed great, what did you do to make it great? USA is great not because of you, and there is a possibility, despite of you.

[@Bk6346]

@@MrJdseniorThe point is that they are catching up and fast. South Korea’s economy in the 1970’s was equivalent to North Korea, now produce mobile phones and automobiles. The Chinese are now finishing first in international math and physics competitions. When the Americans landed on the moon they still had a car and television industry. Not anymore.

[@zalex4268]

As a Chinese, from another perspective, I would appreciate the technology blockade implemented by Western countries, as it would benefit the technological development of local technology companies rather than relying on Western technology as before. Throughout the history of socialist China, since 1949, we have never lacked suppression and sanctions from various aspects of the West. To be honest, China's decades of development have been accompanied by the history of Western sanctions, from military embargoes, economic sanctions, technological blockades, space legislation to human rights accusations. Is there any unused means by the West to suppress China? But throughout history and reality, has China surrendered? Obviously not, we now have enough technology, talent, funding, and long-term planning to solve all the problems we encounter. Ultimately, these issues are all related to self-reliance and hard work. This will only delay China's rise and cannot completely curb its development. Do you want to know why? Because in the long run, the Chinese nation will always be one of the smartest and most hardworking nations in the world

[@EbuzzNYC]

So why are the evil communists complaining so much, I prefer you develop your own chips rather than continue the aggressive behaviors that China has demonstrated with military planes full of western technology. Don't you think it's crazy that you're directing weapons based on western tech? Don't you think that we're protecting our own interests?

[@ibrahimjoel6080]

Assuming they don't try to take Taiwan by force. I predict Taiwan will be the fishbone that will choke china's advancement if China tries to swallow it by Force.

[@greentea8852]

China has 5000 years of history, been in the top of the world many times, it is absolutely because the hard work and the creativity of the Chinese people.

[@EbuzzNYC]

@@greentea8852 The real history of the current Chinese nation is when Mao took over, the CCP stands for China now.

[@billlee8670]

See world nation IQ ranking, I believe your points.

[@iMustaphaa]

Certainly, especially the way the West is throwing this challenge to them. They may slow down their growth, but they will surely emerge stronger and more independent.

[@tofudofu2316]

just because they become independent doesnt necessarily determine that they will emerge stronger... I think thats an important distinction to make here.

[@kongwee1978]

@@tofudofu2316 they have the demand, it will make them stronger.

[@Kai-ic4mp]

@@tofudofu2316 you are a sad little man or women or he/shes or whatever you want to be called…. 😂 SMH.

[@Deadassbruhfrfr]

​@kongwee1978 that's an assumption. Independence does not equal growth or strength

[@Kai-ic4mp]

@@Deadassbruhfrfr yep only the bloods of a titan would say something like this. Lol. 😂

[@sudandahal7345]

I reside in a little village at the foot of mountains in Nepal. My 78-year-old grandmother recalls that when she was younger, Chinese people, particularly those from the region near Tibet, would trek across the mountain range to our village in search of crops and to beg for food. Border barriers were not in place at the time. The world's second-most powerful country right now is China. Their achievements over the last 30 years are unmatched by human thoughts. For my grandmother, I purchased a basic phone. A full-featured phone that she has used for two years and is still in perfect working condition was a Chinese keypad phone that was available in the Nepalese market for $10. This demonstrates their level of commitment and the scale of the work they are capable of doing. Given their extraordinary abilities to create phones that can be sold for $10 after all taxes, fees, and profit.(A phone has hundreds of internal parts) They are, in my opinion, incredibly committed to developing and utterly unimaginable in terms of what they are capable of. China will probably surpass all other nations combined in 20 years.

[@guochi]

赞同。谢谢！

[@KMZR]

absolutely possible!

[@chopinmack5418]

China is working on One Belt One Road . The US is working on One Bomb One Road .

[@s._3560]

China wasn't always that poor. They once exported luxury goods like tea, quality porcelain, silk, fine furniture made with joinery and a lot of intricate works of art to the world. The country only declined after being invaded by virtually all the colonial powers in 19th century and early 20th century, causing a chain of events in China, overthrow their monarchy and civil war followed by revolution. Many non Western countries suffered under colonial rule and still do today.

[@crayrayc]

@@s._3560 yep, forced opium trade.. such an immoral and unjust history of events

[@satriojumeneng7055]

All of these embargoes will make China stronger and expedite them to become number one in almost everything.

[@causewaykayak]

And they will remember the process -- who was their friends and who was not.

[@justice9325]

not China, but CCP China. China is USA's century long friend. CCP China is not, it is USA's deadliest enemy.

[@ilphi08]

So for China's sake, these embargoes should never stop

[@yaoypl]

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. China will overcome this obstacle and develop its own chip technology.

[@Youdontshushh]

Just conquer taiwan already, so u can overcome ur problem? Am i right??? U war mongrels

[@joey3291]

I totally agree, they are rolling out the completely domestic production line for 28 nm this year, which is more than enough for military usage.

[@prm1234567stphn]

​@@joey329128nm 😂are you living in 1980s

[@joey3291]

@@prm1234567stphn you only embarass yourself, 28nm came out in 2012

[@prm1234567stphn]

@@joey3291 still 11 years old .. you are speaking about defense industry use of chip .. do you have any idea how much difference it makes with 20nm extra 🤣 idiot

[@manwingchi9156]

If China builds it own chips. Game over for Chip manufacturers. Better and cheaper. Just look at high speed train, EV car, solar panels and others.😂😂😂😂

[@ruby13738e]

Is taiwan not cheap? lmao, i mean thatsbthe reason why taiwan chips are morenfamous, because of their high quality and economical costs

[@Youdontshushh]

​@@ruby13738eso true.

[@chewycaca]

​@@ruby13738echina can probably make it cheaper if they have the tech

[@ruby13738e]

@@chewycaca cheaper? You consider lithium cheap? I said economical, unlike ur mindset which literrally making chinese companies bankrupt by lowering the prices way down the expect income. China is not cheap labor anymore, think twice boi

[@protagonist9716]

​@@ruby13738e Yes it is and therefore Apple Tesla etc continue global supply from there. Their productivity, skillset and sheer number of engineers innovators are unmatched

[@TheKkpop1]

Thank you Joe for making China more determine to develop its own technology. When it gets tough the tough get going!!

[@Capeau]

by the time they have the advanced chips the west can produce today, the west is already making photonics, neural computing and quantum computing chips...

[@Capeau]

by the time they have the advanced chips the west can produce today, the west is already making photonics, neural computing and quantum computing chips...

[@MrGanbat84]

Yes. Thanks

[@user-hc5cg3jc3i]

是先进芯片半导体技术而已，美国只有在这领域能打牌了

[@merced175]

Remember when China struggled to make a ball point pen? And they think they’re going to make chips in a few years? What a joke.

[@lovinenglanduk]

The panel members are well selected; an objective scholar from Australia, a representative from a US anti China policy think tank and a "toeing the US line" EU diplomat.

[@jdc3636]

You can’t repress 1.4 billion hard working people aspiring for better lives.

[@phyybalance2601]

@@1majo194 either you have been brainwashed by western media or you live in your own imaginary world.

[@rxq6745]

@@1majo194 Idiot

[@MrGanbat84]

I agree China is only one, and this day is coming soon. West hegemony soon gets its karma

[@jesusseoane2296]

@@1majo194which human rights Chinese don’t have? Let me guess, the Chinese human rights was a main concern when the west was forcing the Chinese’s to consume opium ? And send its military to force the Chinese to buy their products?

[@kongwee1978]

@@1majo194 Working hard is enslavement, lol.

[@ballerblocks]

Instead of improving yourself, you decide that you will drag everyone down with you. Why should a country of 1.4billion minds,people souls, not have the chance to be nos 1, if they work hard to better themselves. The answer is quite simple...the anglo saxon hegemony cannot even consider anyone having the ability or determination to be better than them.

[@zprodigalson]

America is pulling a Tonya Harding on China. Can’t beat them, so lets deny them and sabotage them.

[@happymelon7129]

This is bully , it is NOT a competition when only one side(U$) can change rules. Just like your classmate use his family power to force the stationary shop NOT to sell stationary to you.

[@alanssshh]

agree

[@winsonip4447]

It's ironic that Steven acknowledges China's ability to build its own semiconductor supply chain, yet still makes it harder for them to do so. This shortsightedness is common among Western experts and advisors. Once China develops its own supply chain, it will likely push out Western competitors in the mainstream market.

[@abdiganiaden]

It was going to push out western competitors anyway. So why feed it and let them work for it.

[@winsonip4447]

@@abdiganiaden The US aims to contain China's rise rather than surpass it as the world's leading power. However, it is doubtful that the EU shares the same objective of enabling the US to retain its hegemonic position. Consequently, a blanket embargo on the semiconductor supply chain to China would not align with the EU's interests and could potentially harm them.

[@abdiganiaden]

@@winsonip4447 Netherlands really has no choice since the major components they use such as laser technology comes from San Diego. It’s a cooperation with Netherlands to make tech that is beyond what a single country or isolated economy can achieve. China’s efforts to attract Europe or others will never work since its authoritarian based economy will always exploit every corner unlike the free flowing of private enterprise in much of the rest of the world. Like Singapore founder said, China will always see itself as big brother and subjugate rest so none of its neighbors trust it.

[@lvjinbin28]

@@abdiganiaden if USA doesn't stop China to enter International Space Station, then China won't even have intention to create own space station, if USA doesn't embargo chip to China, it may take 20 years for China to catch up with USA slowly because even Chinese company would prefer Western chips, but USA just speeded up that progress by pushing China into corner.

[@lordpinus4599]

Just look at Micron. They are crying and whining that China is shutting them out of their market. I can see ASML, INTC and TSMC following same path of Micron.

[@DySun]

they just answered your question with their new kirin 9000s chip.

[@pr0newbie]

No country has its own end-to-end chip manufacturing capability. The key bottlenecks are Lithography machines (Holland) and Imaging (Japan). If china can even create a mid one over the next 10 years that would be an incredible achievement. It would also spell the end of Western hegemony. As someone who wants economic stability and peace I'd rather countries collaborate instead. Because this is going to end disastrously one way or another. Healthy competition is always good. But the US sows chaos to prevent rational thinking.

[@7Trident3]

Why should China be able to weaponize western developed tech, the CCP is free to develop it's own chips. Keeping china 10 years behind the west, should be applied to all tech.

[@ericshang7744]

if China has no way to import those technologies, they will have to develop their own, won't they? Just like have created their own BDS, or space station etc.

[@lvjinbin28]

Good News: USA decided to contain China's trade and it's easy to win! Bad News: China overtaken Germany as No.1 surplus country.. Good News: China said Trade War would hurt both especially China! Bad News: Americans suffered much more from inflation than Chinese.. Good News: USA kidnapped Huawei's daughter even sanctioned all Chinese tech! Bad News: ASEAN, Muslim world, Africa Union, Latin America are embracing Huawei... Good News: China said decoupling is not good for China economy, world economy! Bad News: communist China is trying to be leader for Free Trade and Market Economy.. Good News: G7 talked about decoupling against China! Bad News: China is de-risking with West but coupling with 140+ Belt&Road countries through more FTAs.. Good News: USA decided to wage full-scale chip war against China! Bad News: China is planning to build complete chip industry chain like built own space station... Good News:iPhone sales is much better than Huawei in the world now! Bad News: China just made 7nm chip and 14nm chip under mass production.. Goold News: foreign company is leaving to Vietnam and India! Bad News:American and European capitalists visit China and bring more high-end industrial FDI.. Good News: Western, Korean, Japanese company is leaving Russia! Bad News: Chinese company fill the vacuum of Russia market.. Good News: Finland Sweden is joining NATO! Bad News: Iran joined SCO, Belarus, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, UAE, Egypt, Turkey, Syria, Sri Lanka, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Nepal, Myanmar, Cambodia on waiting list.. Good News: USA is arming Taiwan! Bad News: China is planning to arm Russia.. Good News: USA sent few troops to train Taiwan! Bad News: China is planning military expansion in Cuba.. Good News: USA forced S.Korea Japan Taiwan and Netherlands to join chip technology embargo against China! Bad News: China banned chip production raw material like gallium and germanium export.. Good News: Even China does not export gallium but other countries still can export it! Bad News: the second largest exporter is Russia.. Good News: but the third largest exporter is Ukraine! Bad News: Ukrainian gallium is mainly produced in Zaporozhye and Donbass​​​​..

[@sflxn]

Just remember that China and Russia were promoting a multipolar world. It seems hypocritical to promote such a world in areas like security but then say we want a free global economic and technological world. China, this is what the multipolar world you wanted looks like.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

Chip cleaning is also mostly done in japan.

[@ID-me2lf]

Two months later, China's Huawei released its latest mobile phone. The chip is at least 7 nanometers and is produced in China. I wonder what the expert thinks about this matter?😂

[@yangjh9572]

It is NOT China can or not but a MUST to develop its very own chips. Never again be threaten by anyone that uses trade and commerce as a way to run down China.

[@MrGanbat84]

This is not a matter of military. It is US hegemony to contain others. If China succeeds on the chip industry then China will save the world. China will help developing countries.

[@alanssshh]

true

[@deccanheart]

Would you want a future with the West, or with Communist China?

[@pitsgrave]

Developed a debt trap?

[@lvjinbin28]

@@pitsgrave 140+ Belt&Road countries join China's debt trap but not IMF Aid, why your Western aid is worse than Chinese trap?

[@user-ez9rw5lm5w]

@@pitsgrave Westerners seem to only have to say "debt trap", your eyes just can't see a new high-rise building, new high-speed rail station, new hospital, new school built by China in these poor countries... When will we see an aid project built by Americans in these poor and backward countries? Americans will not do anything other than talk about it

[@k.k.c8670]

The many, many bright Chinese scientists doing cutting edge research in and for the US at many universities and corporate labs must come back ASAP. Fortunately, some heavy hitters have done just that in the past couple years but more need to.

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

If that's the plan it's not a very good one. No more than a handful American Chinese people are willing to turn down US dollars to move back to China and live under a camera. Just a flaw that might compromise your genius plan.

[@user-zd1wz7mn5s]

exit western countries now... they're waging a war on China...

[@eddylee3826]

We are coming back ! Many are planning with next year as most Chinese help the white evil killers development of chips not the whites man as they are too thick to understand technology

[@jaymarx]

Remember slave owners would cut off slaves hands and ear if they try to read books and learn any knowledge.

[@KaLi-hb7lr]

Do you mean China which is trying to stop its citizens from learning English and crawling out from the internet firewall?

[@kundixue3]

Yeah. The colonial spirit lives on.

[@nanhinting7447]

For a country that had sent spaceship to the Moon and Mars nothing can stop them. Though they maybe late but certainly it will not stop them from innovating and they will achieve in due time. I should say China thank the US and the West for the challenges presented to them.

[@ainz1325]

But thats all are copied ans stolen tech , china cant steal a high tech litography machine they dont have a capability to create from zero

[@ibrahimjoel6080]

Remember the west won't be sleeping on their own advancement as well. Catching up won't be easy for china especially since Russia is not making technological breakthroughs anymore and is just focus on the Ukrainian war.

[@alfiey5783]

For a country usa thats only 248 years old compared to one thats well over 4000 years. Everyone should be copying china, not the other way around. Planes, cars, spaceships, computers, television, electricity…. All invented by china! And everyone is just copying them.

[@alanzsw]

​@@alfiey5783totally agreed

[@nanhinting7447]

@@alfiey5783 Agree absolutely. 👍👍👍👏👏👏♥️♥️♥️

[@masssly]

Shame on the US

[@d.o.g573]

Shame on you you paid troll

[@MrJdsenior]

Thank you! We love you, too. :-)

[@shuli6021]

they are the same barbarian as 300years ago

[@yumyumgimmesum]

It’s not a matter of if but a matter of when. And since China sees things from a historical perspective, they’ll remember this.

[@rustyyb8450]

Doesn't matter. They've long had a chip on their shoulder. Their application is to overturn the status quo. It is obvious they wish dominate their geographic realm, which now extends far enough to impose on neighbors and seafaring merchants. China often enough disables communications cable to Taiwan's near by islands, they'll remember this.

[@gabrielmontufar5238]

They couldn't even manufacture ballpoint pens, until recently😂

[@commie5211]

@@gabrielmontufar5238bacause there is no profits idiot. the cost for setting up a factory just don't justify.

[@jasoncheng2916]

Haha spotted another Mr singh. Please make sure your toilet won't collapse when you take a poo.

[@peacelover2008]

@@gabrielmontufar5238 please tell me if your country can make it? not because China couldn't, but they didn't felt worth it , right now you know what happened, the pens price low down, and all the ballpoint competitor companies died.

[@themiddlekingdom9121]

It is matter of time, China has more than 1.4 billion people, there are no shortage of talented people. They will create their own chips industry, from machine to make chips to chemical to softwares, I have no doublt about it. As Pluto once said, "a necessity is the mother of invention."

[@kemojatta1328]

That’s because you have no clue how these things work. There is a reason why none of the advanced country can independently make advanced chips on their own. China has already poured billions and billions dollars in that industry and still has nothing to show for it.

[@gm3190]

Pluto is either a) a transneptunian planetoid b) the Roman equivalent of the Greek God Hades Plato was a prolific Greek philosopher who is alleged to have said: necessity is the mother of all invention.😂

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

Hmmm which peasant out of the 1.4 billion will make the breakthrough?

[@accountantthe3394]

@@duhaneyparkclassics7484 The one that's more hardworking that you, twitter fingers 🥴

[@themiddlekingdom9121]

@@gm3190 I misspelled his name, NOT PLUTO, my bad. Plato was, an ancient Greek philosopher, the one who actually said, " Necessity is the mother of all invention."

[@codecoffee-farsi3392]

Aljazeera should also invite guest speaker from China side as well. It's not fair to only include US guest + Europe guests.

[@ediekimo9110]

Aljazeera is becoming more like bbc nowadays

[@ruby13738e]

Why? U scared of some white dude studying ur country? Is china hiding something from the world?😢

[@Youdontshushh]

Not really, those people are more likely to describe it without any bias. I dont even think chinese can criticize their own exports, picturing only that they have the best products when its not

[@TheKkpop1]

@@Youdontshushh What do you expect when AJ is nothing but a mouth piece of the western propaganda.???

[@Anonymous------]

​@@Youdontshushh Why are you afraid of cross examination?

[@jctai100]

It's a 2 horse race but instead of training harder, America will just Tonya Harding the competition.

[@GavinQuan]

When talking about China's chip industry, you don't have Chinese invited. Instead, all guests from western countries, discussing security and defending de-risking policy. Interesting. When US was the only big guy in the world, they said free trade is the only right thing. When there's new player in the room, they say new rules are required by the changing world. Well, as I say, the largest changing in the world is decreasing of G7 and rising of G20. Why G7 countries would still think they have the right to make "new rules"? That's the major reason for the tension situation nowadays: selfishly blindness.

[@eriksonyw]

Al Jazeera is funded by the west, and aligned with the west. So it basically belongs to the CNN bunch. I've realized this a few years ago, and unsubscribed the Al Jazeera channel. Don't let its middle eastern facade fool you. 😜

[@Gman979]

Perhaps not many realised that it's Chinese scientists that helped the US in the discovery of semiconductor chips in the beginning.

[@jace1113]

That's so true. But no one is going to admit that

[@kongwee1978]

@@jace1113 Yup, they only see the chief scientist being a white guy, and a group of scientist are hidden behind cameras.

[@vietfrost]

He's American. Raised and educated in the US.

[@shuli6021]

he is Chinese who work for a company called usa

[@abassbangura6674]

America refuses China to join the international space station, but yet still they've developed their own.

[@biteme7857]

Obviously they are rivals

[@laosasean8482]

@@biteme7857 US doesn't like fair competition.

[@biteme7857]

@@laosasean8482 what do you do when you have a rival ? You do everything you can to make sure they don't win- yes?

[@laosasean8482]

@@biteme7857 You can't always win and that fact in real world and as well human nature.

[@Youdontshushh]

​@@laosasean8482what does even mean fair to china? Lmao😊

[@yuema2078]

The title of this episode is "can china develop its own chip industry?" And the context doesn't say anything about it. Looking at the history, China did manage advancing a number of industries, AI, space program, navigation, deep sea, green energies, under various restrictions. So I think it is like what ASML CEO Peter Winnek predicted, it is a matter of time. These ASML machines are complex MAN-MADE machines, not God made. It is all about engineering, physics and high financial barriers. China produces the largest number of engineers and physicists nowadays, and it has the financial means too. It will probably take them anywhere from 8 to 15 years, but once they are there the game is over. Just like the GPS system, once a technology choking point for China, and after they developed its own, not only Beidou is dominant domestically, but steadily taking GPS' market share outside China.

[@alanssshh]

agree

[@user-tq2li2id3l]

Shanghai Micro Electronics Equipment (Group) Co (SMEE) will deliver the first domestic 28nm lithography machine between 2021 to 2022, helping narrowing the gap with the world's chip-making technology, industry websites said. Xiang Ligang, a veteran industry analyst, told the Global Times on Sunday that once SMEE has the ability to deliver 28nm lithography equipment, it will have the opportunity to move forward to 14nm and 7nm lithography equipment, noting that the breakthrough helps the company "accumulate experience" to manufacture high-end chip-making equipment.

[@d.o.g573]

You got it right it is literally the god machine - and we made sure long time ago it doesn’t fall into the hands of the „wrong people“

[@lionelwong5842]

China has already banned Micron chips. That itself speaks volumes about China's capability of developing their own semiconductor chips.

[@jtchunga7699]

If china is really self sufficient in chips making, why complain US restriction?

[@truthaboveall7988]

Meanwhile it was Micron who lobbied to cut China off 🤣🤣backfiring onto them 👍

[@truthaboveall7988]

@@jtchunga7699b cuz the US claims to b all about free markets while destroying the free market w sanctions - we can’t compete w China so we have to cheat as ALWAYS The US is the Tanya Harding of free market competition We have 1/3 of the global population under sanctions which will ultimately b our own demise 🤣

[@longcimb]

​@@jtchunga7699US is not respecting WTO rules. And who actually built a lithography machines on its own. Even ASML relies on hundreds of suppliers

[@rustyyb8450]

@@longcimb China built sand bar islands far from its shore, militarized them, and imposes on neighbors. China doesn't follow International Law.

[@benet-vt6vv]

today l listened to this again after huawei launched its huawei 60 pro. i can't help laughing at everybody here.

[@ngchenghow]

Huawei mate 60 5G selling, US already lose tech war.

[@laosasean8482]

The west and nobody cannot stop Chinese ability and determination.

[@ruby13738e]

Even stealing islands from other neighbouring countries. No one can stop china

[@Youdontshushh]

How about harassing filipino fishermen in their own waters? Hmmm😂

[@TheKkpop1]

@@Youdontshushh How about exchange Marcos family stashed money in exchange for 4 new military bases???

[@johnc1873]

@@YoudontshushhFilipinos don’t have a spine. Allowing US military on they’re land to do things to your children and women. Terrible

[@Youdontshushh]

@@TheKkpop1 we also hate marcos, lmao. But that doesnt make sense as to why china harass filipino fishermen. Dont try to change the topic lmao

[@happymelon7129]

On July 3, China announced the implementation of export controls on semiconductor materials gallium and germanium related items. Items that meet the relevant characteristics shall not be exported without a license. It will be officially implemented from August 1, 2023.

[@krossfield9139]

HEY!! That's an unacceptable approach which is definitely not free trade! What? US? We create those concepts for YOU.

[@simonw9585]

Good job, China. It should be in place earlier.

[@justice9325]

The effect of this export control is negligible, and Russia has immediately proclaimed that Russia will much increase their production of these materials 😂 😂

[@niuliu6504]

@@justice9325 Yes,I believe Russia is a good friend of US, and willing to sell these materials to them without hesitation.

[@vancloudguy]

Huawei just gave the best answer to the question asked.

[@Voxabonable]

Once China is confident enough with the basics, they have a tendency to leapfrog. Sure you can make life difficult for them now, but that's a really dumb thing to do.

[@chessdaddy0720]

The US had been involved (attacked or invaded) with every major wars since WWII. When was the last time Chinese military that attacked its neighbors? The last one is dated back to 1980 for the border conflict. Sure, the US doesn't have to worry about borders (thanks to Mexico and Canada are too weak). Instead, the US extends its reach all over the world. And the most important, the US has not been a good international police.

[@laosasean8482]

Its pure racism.

[@TheKkpop1]

Well said.

[@zim2023Dwl]

US is using it as so-called justifiable excuse for contaiment. A person accusing others will opt to be blind to himself.

[@probably6755]

China has border disputes with around 20 different countries. They love to bully small countries militarily or through economic coercion.

[@niuliu6504]

@@laosasean8482they are only facts, open your eyes sir.

[@kelvinking4022]

This will just accelerate their own production of chips.

[@bluefish7940]

If China can go to space , how hard to make chip on earth ? Just a matter of time ❤❤❤

[@conradtrinh6470]

China use dumb outdated Chinese writing so it's hard to tell can China be ahead in technology invention industry due Chinese waste 10 year of their life to learn how to read and write.

[@kushagravlogs5627]

China is already manufacturing chips and growing rapidly.

[@tluangasailo3663]

Making chip is harder than simply going to space

[@myheyang]

@@tluangasailo3663 Relatively speaking, it is more difficult to prevent you from discrediting China and earning US dollars

[@bluefish7940]

@@tluangasailo3663another Gordon Chan … China collapse 😂 😂 😂

[@vasily8049]

It is not about "can", it is about "have to"

[@aeonstorn7823]

Maybe it's should be when.

[@v.prestorpnrcrtlcrt2096]

"Get to."

[@robertseaborne5758]

A more pertinent question might be, what can Cina not develop? 😊

[@rongbingmu3758]

97 genders

[@antaitai]

@@rongbingmu3758 lol

[@antaitai]

@@rongbingmu3758 107 genders rn

[@tluangasailo3663]

Apparently chip industry

[@user-tv1hg9dk3r]

drugs

[@KennyL1]

China is building a complete chip supply chain inside the country. It will be the only country with its own industry supply chain. Imagine what it can do in the future when things are in place

[@jeffperteet2327]

It burns alot of coal, soaks up alot of other regions resources, and thd government is adversarial toward any nation that doesn't agree to all of it's demands

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

Name the Chinese company building this fictitious chip.

[@User1717ww]

​@@1majo194while you spend your days making covid jokes on youtube, my people build technologies that will make them unbeatable hahaha, keep going please 😂

[@User1717ww]

​@@duhaneyparkclassics7484its ok if you cant see it, china will take care of it 😊

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

@@User1717ww still no company name...

[@simonw9585]

I believe China will grow stronger and stronger under these suppression. Like HUA WEI, it becomes even stronger after US sanctioned in 2018. HUA WEI cell phone industry was hit badly. However, HUA WEI 6G technology has been in use and is leading the world. China has the smartest and most hard working people, they have the most students studying STEM and enter the work force every year. Also, Chinese people love peace, China has never invaded or colonized any country in the history. Totally different from western countries and Japan.

[@MrJdsenior]

Smartest, huh? Any decade now they will catch up with the US space program, from five decades ago, because so far, they haven't even gotten CLOSE, to most of it. China goes orgasmic over landing a stupid rover on the moon, while the US is FLYING A CHOPPER on Mars. Any day now... And when they get the chip sizes down to about 25X smaller, they will have caught up with the current industry standard. Wow, I am aghast.

[@aikotoba99]

There is no way any country will stop China from developing it's chip industry. This is a country of 1.4 billion people with a track record of major progress and is even ahead of the West in some areas.

[@ryanreedgibson]

According to China's propaganda. I happen to know many in China who would disagree with you.

[@helloworld5334]

@@ryanreedgibson well i agree,nobody could stop Chinese, we are the best !

[@baileyshirleen37]

是14亿人口的国家

[@ryanreedgibson]

@@baileyshirleen37 由于中共的干预，人口老龄化史无前例。没有足够的孩子出生将会破坏稳定

[@shuli6021]

According to american day dream, they will lead the world for another decades

[@cryptoman9781]

Of course, any country can develop their own chip industry depends on their ability how advanced their tech and how long it’ll takes. But China have every tools in their tool box to achieve that it’s matter of how long they can catch up to the top.

[@MrJdsenior]

Yeah, the largest one being that they steal tech from everyone else. Great country, that.

[@yu-jd5jg]

It is not a matter of can, China must develop its advanced chip industry to be self-reliant. The Hegemonic US will desperately try every means legally and/or illegally to contain China's rapid rise. All Chinese from its leaders to men/women on the street know that

[@alanssshh]

true

[@ainz1325]

China will develop for sure but a very primitive chip , like i3 chips while others already built i10 to i15 china will alywas be behind

[@yu-jd5jg]

@@ainz1325 In the 1960s GDP of China and India was about the same. But in 2022, China's GDP is already 5x India's GDP. The real development of a country is by hard work and not blowing hot air

[@ainz1325]

@@yu-jd5jg yea right china overvalued gdp , chips are break thru inventions why do u think asml from dutch is the only country that produce a lito machine for advance chips? China cant copy or steal something that they dont have

[@d.o.g573]

Not in this universe

[@henrytan5707]

Two months later today you have the answer 😅

[@mangguodaren7366]

I am watching the video on my Huawei Mate 60 pro.

[@Johntor8888]

if you want block other country is ok, but when you push other country to do so, It is ack of war.

[@bozmar1]

China did it s own advanced chips but can not commercialze them in the Nato countries because of the security reason… China is veeeery advanced in AI , chips , space missions and medicine… loong way before the West

[@ruby13738e]

Advance? Im sorry to break it up to you? Western countries have more quality than urs. Your brands are just a cheap knock off

[@jaja3359]

They make chips, not the machines. Whats more important? 😂

[@bozmar1]

@@jaja3359 one milliard and half of chinese with the resourses of Russia can make much more

[@jaja3359]

@@bozmar1 Once they catch up yeah. That will take some years, ASML is still way ahead

[@jace1113]

​@@jaja3359that's right. Once they catch up. So really the US thinks it's doing the right thing but a tactic with a short life span. In the end who will come out weaker?

[@RichardBrett899]

Of course, and without a doubt that China will be able to produce even more advanced semi-conductors and chips.

[@topweddingsa4059]

😆😀Jealous...😀 Nothing will stop China to rise If Taiwan can make the best chip nothing will stop China to create their own

[@taco7043]

This is all using US technology. Your English is very poor. If the US doesn't want to share it's technology it doesn't have to.

[@jaisriram295]

And who are they gonna export to when the US and the EU put trade tariffs on them and all China has is cheap manufacturing exports 😂 you really did think that the US was gonna let China overtake them 😂😂

[@laosasean8482]

Stupid racist westerners thinks that the world can't go on... without them lol.....

[@ruby13738e]

Jealous? 😂😂 Im sorry to say that china cannot survive without western money. Just look at how many factories does the western companies build all over ur country. 😂😂 Ur just a rich slave for the western world😂😂😂

[@Youdontshushh]

Hmmmmm, i thought taiwan is part of china? Whats the point of being competitive? Just conquer taiwan already? I thought chinese army is Strong😂

[@HC-xk1iq]

Now it's time and is also interesting for your channel to discuss Huawei's new phone such as Mate 60 and Mate 60 pro

[@T00Busy113]

Same can be said American and European universities did a lot of research with potential military applications or intended for the military..so we should also ban funding to all Western Universities based on that logic

[@Liaomiao]

yes saved you 28 mins

[@happymelon7129]

😆[you are not allowed to access my house, but you must allow me to access your house]😆 2011： China has been barred from the ISS since 2011, when Congress passed a law prohibiting official American contact with the Chinese space program due to concerns about national security. 2022 April 27: NASA Administrator Bill Nelson said on Tuesday China continues to display a lack of transparency and willingness to cooperate with the United States in China space station. 😅But he forgot it is against the U$A law for China to have contact with NASA .

[@jetli740]

OH you miss out the best part, Usa complain china space station instrument all in chinese😂😂😂

[@sentenialxmen3227]

When you look at the positive point of view, this is a wake up call to China. China is being suppressed by the US and the Chinese needs to be positive, creative, and more dynamic. The road to be number 1 is not easy, China needs to overcome this obstacle, China needs to develop the chip technology.

[@andriagatab1180]

Even Filipino territorial water china claim it how to be china trusted in semiconductor chips?

[@sentenialxmen3227]

@@andriagatab1180 Trust is obtained and measured by the relationship between 2 people or countries over x period of time. It can run deep or shallow and it is all depending on how they both manage the relationship. Well Philippines has chosen to side with the US and will open military bases for the US. The Chinese claims the 9 -lines at South China sea belongs to them since the Ming Dynasty and the Philippine also claim for some part of the water. I am not here to judge who is right or wrong. The world power is shifting. if you look a the trajectory...there might be a cold war 2.0 or a hot war. Just look at the BRICKS + all the Muslim countries + all the African countries. Look at the map of Philippine and the US. The Chinese has been making a huge progress on developing their technology in the semi-conductor. Last time I read, China has successfully developed the 7nmm within 2 years and the latest is 3nmm and it is still under development by TSMC. All I am saying, China has a huge capabilities and capacities to build something. When they've decided what needs to be done.....No red tapes, no politics, no social or economic constrains, and no non-sense.....Is China going to be successful? it remains to be seen but a very high chance and probability that they will. We will see!!

[@dearcoolz]

Can china develop it's own space station? Yes

[@tluangasailo3663]

Can it develop chip industry? NO

[@treycash8876]

China is just the third country to build an independent space station after the Soviets and the Americans did it in the 70s and 80s. China is nothing special, China never pioneered space tech.

[@Do7ati]

nope the Earth is Flat 😂

[@zenden9]

​@@tluangasailo3663 Huawei Kirin 9000s rebukes you.

[@qipang9271]

The chips that China can now manufacture are 14 nanometers, while the controllable chip industry chain in China is 28 nanometers. It was unimaginable before being sanctioned by the United States, after all, this is a global division of labor industry chain. If you are familiar with the field of storage chips, you will find that in the past two years, major manufacturers have experienced inexplicable fires or production cuts, and prices have also become cheaper. One reason is that China's NAND and DRAM have gradually moved from backwardness to advancement. If you dare to reduce production, I will increase market share. So now nand and dram are getting cheaper and cheaper. After years of sanctions and global Chip shortage, a large number of chips that do not need top manufacturing have been turned to domestic production. After all, apart from smartphones and computers, most electrical appliances or the automotive industry do not require first-class manufacturing to save electricity or have such high performance. After being sanctioned, China subsidized 1000 semiconductor companies, some of which may have cheated on subsidies and some may lack competitiveness. However, as it seems now, ultimately surviving five fiercely competitive companies is sufficient. This task has been completed well, and many companies are much stronger than expected.

[@justice9325]

Thanks for the updated information. US Gov. will make sure they'll be dead in due time.

[@MrJdsenior]

NAND huh? OMG

[@netizencapet]

China should file suit in the WTO under grounds that US export controls are not valid and based on false accusations. Psst. It would be worth removing the Huawei or other brand components that actually do qualify as security risks before making the suit.

[@vitolu6727]

Chips are a trillion dollar industry in China. No matter how external sanctions change, as long as the demand is objective, then sooner or later China will develop its own chip industry. It may not be able to equal the West in terms of cutting-edge technology, but the bulk of the chip industry has never been the most advanced chips.

[@noneone3310]

while some people of some countries are doubting china, china is doing it. keep the talk, before long, they will get it done. then those people will pick next topic to repeat china bashing narratives. sadly, there aren't many such topics left.

[@BLAZE-sj6lf]

Very well said 💯👍

[@mythbusterthe6749]

Can China develop it's own chips industries???? WTF the chip industries are developed by the Chinese even in the US. China has been reducing her chips imports while her consumption of chips keeps on rising annually. So what did China substitute them with? Homegrown Potato chips?

[@jetli740]

sadly these new reporter cant connect the dot, or deliberate lying to it audience

[@bazlur-rahman]

To make chips, you need technologies from Germany, the USA, the Netherlands, Japan, Taiwan, and Korea. China has basic materials.

[@nicetry3381]

huawei introduce mate60 with its own Kirin9000s chip

[@leslieleong5522]

HW launched 7nm!

[@hegehypo5914]

Latest revised ASPI report released in March 2023 indicated that China leads in 37 out of 44 technological areas. Protectionism and sanctioning China will only speed up China's progress in advancing technological breakthrough (already demonstrated time and time again e.g. space station, Beidou navigation system, infrastruture and green projects like HSR, solar panel, wind power, EV industry, military weapons like supersonic missile, aircrafft carrier etc etc)

[@tluangasailo3663]

Leads in 37 only on paper , not on real life

[@vc4510]

​@@tluangasailo3663FYI, ASCI is an Australian think tank.

[@treycash8876]

​@@vc4510 China is a very good follower not a pioneer. All those invents and innovation are from the west.

[@jetli740]

@@treycash8876 ignorance. so you must insist china build a jet with 3 wing to be original and re invented the wheel to be original? why every car produce by every counrty all follow the same basic plan? 4 wheel, some seat and a steering wheel?... your ignorance is off the chart

[@MrJdsenior]

China doesn't lead in ANY technological area. You guys are on some mighty good drugs. What China does is stick other country's chips on boards and throw them in boxes.

[@western-hypocrisy1898_.]

westerners can ask more questions like this : Can China develop its own a-bomb? Can China develop its h-bomb? Can China develop its own space station? Can China develop its own bullet trains? Can China develop its own drones? Can China develop its own satalites? Can China develop its own GPS? Can China develop its own operaton system? Can China develop its own carriers ? ............... so,Westerners are responsible for asking, China is responsible for making .

[@pwu8194]

One of the consequences of U.S. sanctions is the patents of banned products automatically expire since they will no longer be protected in China due to the sanction. China will then be free to use the patents and develop its own version of products.

[@chriswong9158]

Henry Kissinger Quote: “To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.” China had read Napoleon Bonaparte remark: "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting" - Sun Tzu

[@ngchenghow]

Huawei release mate 60 pro with 5G 7nm chip, made in China, US lose the chip war in just 3 years

[@BieZhang]

CEOs of Broadcom, AMC, founders of TSMC, NVIDIA etc. are all Chinese, the semiconductor industry is basically dominated by Americans and East Asians including Chinese(Taiwanese), Korean and Japanese. One should not underestimate the potential of an East Asian country with a population of 1.4 billion. Given the right social structure, East Asians will excel in every single high-tech industry, this is the destiny of human history

[@tluangasailo3663]

Apparently they loves Ameeica more than china

[@Tbonesteak23]

Just wanted to point out that as consumers we are all paying for America’s tech war on China as a result of the shortages of many products caused by the disruption in the supply chain. US sacrificed the global economic growth and prosperity to make sure China doesn’t become its equal peer or even leader.

[@mandarinandthetenrings2201]

No Ryan, there is no trade or chip war with China. China can only make the really low end chips. So if you want a talking toaster oven then China is place to get your chips. But honestly they can't make most those chips without our help. And to make worse they can't make the medium and high level chips that all made in America or Taiwan. So don't sweat it this just more like Professional Wrestling it all fake news.

[@Laowei1]

No Chinese or Asian perspectives on this panel? Ridiculous. You have no credibility here Al Jazeera. Very disappointing. Thumbs down.

[@stephenyang2844]

Shame on ASML for bending to US's call. China overcame the space challenge in 25 years, on a 5-year horizon China could achieve breakthrough in semiconductor technology. Most countries have significant trade with China, it will become more strained in following US‘s call. China is still growing at a higher pace will dominate overwhelmingly, unfriendly obstacles will only stimulate its effort.

[@tluangasailo3663]

Do SpaceX challenge?

[@jetli740]

@@tluangasailo3663 they already have self land rocket

[@kamsang686]

America bar China from the international space station. Now China have their own. Taiwan should transfer the technology to China. They should Help China they all Chinese.

[@asmr_rico]

Obviously, the Netherlands is coerced by the United States. This is common business sense. The Netherlands can earn a lot of money in China, so why would they ban sales to China?

[@user-fs9kc1vo4o]

China has now made a major breakthrough in euv lithography

[@fengkuangyu7116]

2023.08.30 Huawei released its newest smartphone the Mate 60 pro, a big gift for the arrival of Gina Raimondo.

[@chiyuan9296]

We are an application software development company engaged in software development for the ToB business, mainly engaged in the development of CMS systems for commercial customers. Even we are transferring to the Hongmeng operating system. Three million programmers in China have joined the Hongmeng system. Thank you to American politicians for successfully inspiring the determination of the Chinese people in chips and operating systems. According to the current known situation, approximately 300000 programmers join the application development system of the Hongmeng operating system every year, which will be a very powerful system.

[@user-st3im5ge7f]

If you win under the greatest pressure, you are real winner.

[@user-rr9rt9qj4k]

Overpowered by phobia, US even starts banning garlics from China claiming it poses national security risk.

[@zhenwenlu2607]

Warwick Powell is the most intellectually honest of the 3.

[@joem0088]

I am sure the presenter is a very nice and fair guy. But I really do not understand why a Qatari state funded chanel employs a Westerner to present a geopolitical subject. The West already has phenomenal , unrivalled media resources, does it need the help of Qatar ? Or is Qatar telling the world that it's is West oriented ? Can a Western presenter present a neutral and fair view ?

[@hsingpeikao]

When a quiet Chinese kid walks into the class, better not to laugh at him because he doesn’t speak English yet.

[@wonderland2016]

up to today, break through in 7 mono meter chip already done by china. isnt a surprise?

[@tigera6681]

"stolen" tech. this language, only i can say just jealous. example: exclude PRC to join int'l space station, then, what happens? PRC has own space station completed 2022. PRC, ultimately develop own chip industry.

[@Userkzb20253]

Revising: Halting Chinese chip development could constrain the chip market's size, thereby impeding overall chip industry growth. It only has a lose-lose outcome.

[@qake2021]

🥸🥸🥸 all these experts are WRONG ‼️‼️‼️..... 🇨🇳 will succeed because 🇨🇳 leaders have 🇨🇳 people in mind. 👏👏👏

[@qake2021]

West and others (🇺🇲🇪🇺🇬🇧🇨🇦🇯🇵) have and will fail to CONTAIN 🇨🇳‼️✌️✌️✌️

[@wdp7128]

The question was, can China develop its own advanced chip.. The answer is yes.. probably within a decade, like how they have done with the space station, Beidou gps, HSR, tunneling machine..etc.