Can Cordyceps Infect Humans and Cause Zombie Apocalypse (Last Of Us)?

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Fascinated By Fungi

Fascinated By Fungi

3 жыл бұрын

One of the most common questions I get asked on TikTok is if I’m going to start a “Last Of Us” zombie scenario. In this video game, a Cordyceps like fungus makes the jump to humans, turning them into fearsome flesh eating zombies that also produce infectious spores across several stages of zombie maturity. While this is some fantastic Sci-Fi writing, the feasibility of this (and all zombie scenarios) is 0.
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Cordyceps are incredibly fascinating fungi. Generally, they are Ascomycetes that spend part of their life cycle as haploid molds in the soil, until they infect insect larvae and colonizing the insect hemolymph with mycelium. The fungus produces a powerful suite of 2nd metabolites that inhibit the insects own immune system and biological processes (but leaving their brains mostly unaffected). The mycelium then locomotes the bug through hydraulic motion up the branch of a plant to a specific heigh where a mushroom grows out of the infected insect and disperses its spores onto the ground and bugs below. Quite a fantastic and potentially terrifying life cycle (if you’re a bug).
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As a human, we don’t have to worry about our entire body being colonized by a Cordyceps fungi and turning into a zombie. We are large organisms with a complex immune system that is generally very good at dealing with slow moving fungal infections (except for people who are immune compromised). Given that mammals have fundamentally different biology than insects (blood vs hemolymph), we don’t have to worry about becoming zombies. However, after talking to @fishroom_man I did learn that there are a few Cordyceps species that can infect humans as opportunistic pathogens, but they generally cause mild symptoms as skin rashes rather than a full blown zombification.
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Cordyceps are some of the most fascinating fungi out there, displaying an “extended phenotype” or ability to influence events beyond the scope of their own physical form. It’s a concept I talked about further with author @merlin.sheldrake in our IG Live chat if you want to learn more!
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#lastofus #lastofus2 #cordyceps #zombies #scifi #scicomm #biochemistry #cordycepsfungus #fascinatedbyfungi #mycology #educationalvideos

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@chi_chai
@chi_chai Жыл бұрын
"Say the temperature rises and now there's a need to adapt"
@the_kidd3944
@the_kidd3944 Жыл бұрын
That intro to the show was amazing
@nafaxena4709
@nafaxena4709 Жыл бұрын
"We lose"
@FatTh0r
@FatTh0r Жыл бұрын
The highest tropical environment they are known to exist in is around 70 degrees and that’s in a tropical environment (90-110+) so we would need to see the entire world hit new high temps like 20-30*F +
@thanos5149
@thanos5149 Жыл бұрын
The one thing the doctor missed out on is that humans also adapt to the temperatures & environment.
@tablesalt2628
@tablesalt2628 Жыл бұрын
@@thanos5149 Nah we don't. Humans took hundreds of thousands of years to evolve and it would take hundreds of thousands more for any significant changes to our biology. But that won't even happen because the macro biological forces that forced our evolution in the first place are no longer acting on us in modern society. We are no longer evolving, not in any significant way anyway.
@bunsenn5064
@bunsenn5064 Жыл бұрын
In the real world, a cordyceps that infects humans probably wouldn’t progress into aggressive zombies. It would more so be something like a dormant fungus, which does something similar to an ant, causing the human to move to a crowded area, bite down/stay still, die, and release a bunch of spores. It wouldn’t make humans attack each other, but would instead turn each human into a fungal landmine.
@doomdude69
@doomdude69 Жыл бұрын
I think thats scarier
@themiddleproject2032
@themiddleproject2032 Жыл бұрын
So basically the games version of the zombies minus the biting, but you could argue that since human architecture isn’t like that of the ant kingdom (there’s no leaves for us to clamp onto) the fungus may try to innovate with some other form of infection ie making humans bite each other, and then succumbing the the infection and spreading it through airborne spores at a later stage in infection. As seen in the games.
@APigeonfromSpace
@APigeonfromSpace Жыл бұрын
​@@themiddleproject2032 Buildings.
@danthovict381
@danthovict381 Жыл бұрын
@@doomdude69 nah imagine getting a flu, and you sneezing to spread the virus. The same scenario.
@indo604
@indo604 Жыл бұрын
True but cmon for the game what a cool idea
@von_Farr
@von_Farr Жыл бұрын
The chance of humanity destroying itself far exceeds any other scenario.
@firstletterofthealphabet7308
@firstletterofthealphabet7308 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I think as well. Humanity *will* end, and it _will_ happen due to human actions.
@yesyouareright9800
@yesyouareright9800 Жыл бұрын
@@firstletterofthealphabet7308 yeah no
@refugeehugsforfree4151
@refugeehugsforfree4151 Жыл бұрын
Meteor is more likely.
@firstletterofthealphabet7308
@firstletterofthealphabet7308 Жыл бұрын
@@yesyouareright9800 no, how?
@jerricho11
@jerricho11 Жыл бұрын
This is the most comforting response to a potential zombie apocalypse scenario that I've ever read. Thank you.
@marinacroy1338
@marinacroy1338 Жыл бұрын
I read once that cordyceps doesn't infect the brain, and the infected insects retain normal brain activity, suggesting that they remain conscious while unable to control their actions. I like to imagine that in the game, all the humans are still intelligent and completely aware of what they've become, makes it 10x spookier.
@ReallyKeepingFictional
@ReallyKeepingFictional Жыл бұрын
IIRC, that's actually what happens. Though it might be downplayed, but I do remember once or twice sneaking and actually hearing the "zombies" speaking like one who was munching on a dead friend and crying "please don't make me do this". Spooky stuff, makes TLOU such a good horror game.
@rituparnrongatex-b2720
@rituparnrongatex-b2720 2 жыл бұрын
But what if it mutates? They can mutate to fight our immune system ....right?
@The_Worst_Of_All
@The_Worst_Of_All 2 жыл бұрын
It might eat our bodies or eat other people
@Kinkoms
@Kinkoms 2 жыл бұрын
We won't be movie zombies. We will just be alive and a host for cordyceps for it to find a spot to spread.
@fedra5873
@fedra5873 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kinkoms these aren’t zombies
@fedra5873
@fedra5873 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bwolf1 if cordyceps mutates like any fungus then I got yables
@PashaVerti
@PashaVerti 2 жыл бұрын
The cordyceps attacks only little insects because they are small and simple. There should be no way for it to mutate this hard.
@r3gul4rplr17
@r3gul4rplr17 Жыл бұрын
"Hopefully the humans inmune system is much stronger than the bugs." The guy with AIDS: Ellie, stay away from those
@heehee7123
@heehee7123 Жыл бұрын
AHAHAHAHA
@nachosconqueso6595
@nachosconqueso6595 Жыл бұрын
I am the 69th like god
@batra204
@batra204 Жыл бұрын
of course people with compromised immune system are susceptible to all kinds of infections including fungi and bacteria. A lot of covid survivors were infected by black fungus.
@chriswhite3692
@chriswhite3692 Жыл бұрын
This is the detail that the show skimmed over. Pathologic fungi can grow systemically. It's only when you are immune compromised do they typically take hold.
@inputlunasano723
@inputlunasano723 Жыл бұрын
@@chriswhite3692 So the cure would be to strengthen the immune system? In the last of us
@miledith555
@miledith555 Жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this fungus when I was a child and it both fascinated and horrified me because it basically was making dead ants walk and the imagery of mushrooms growing out of an ant was so strange to me.
@ccsx222
@ccsx222 Жыл бұрын
same!!! i would think about cutting off the fungi growing out of them 😭 like would it just fall off
@darkcrydotmrihavetoomanyst1440
@darkcrydotmrihavetoomanyst1440 Жыл бұрын
It's worse than that From what I heard the ant is still alive it's brain still functioning but it has no control of it's body as the fungus controls it's muscles it can do nothing but think and watch
@joeysmith7296
@joeysmith7296 Жыл бұрын
Would Anti fungal things work?
@cat_the_real
@cat_the_real Жыл бұрын
It turns the ants into fun guis!
@paladinheadquarters7776
@paladinheadquarters7776 3 күн бұрын
I don’t think the ants are dead until it releases it spores, but then it’s no longer walking. The ant just get’s it’s nervous system hijacked, and brain flooded with chemicals. Not dead yet though.
@bilal2378
@bilal2378 Жыл бұрын
People forget that we are master survivors naturally and have immense Sci tech , even if it evolves we evolve too
@brandonpollard8928
@brandonpollard8928 Жыл бұрын
Faith in humanity, I love it
@robertlee4809
@robertlee4809 Жыл бұрын
People forget that there's more evil out there than we know...we are at the mercy of men such as these....
@farisa1116
@farisa1116 Жыл бұрын
I won't be surprised if it's us humans who take the world to shit
@ccsx222
@ccsx222 Жыл бұрын
@@farisa1116 i can’t see a future for us where we weren’t the ones that turned the planet to shit. lol
@echo3568
@echo3568 Жыл бұрын
Someone with a genuine faith in humanity? You must be protected
@ReptilianAnusWizzard
@ReptilianAnusWizzard Жыл бұрын
i take cordyceps as a Supplement.....i am mildly freaked out that its the same Fungus
@deirdremorris9234
@deirdremorris9234 Жыл бұрын
What do you take it for?
@VerdwaaldeKunstenaar1
@VerdwaaldeKunstenaar1 Жыл бұрын
The cordyceps makes him take it.
@revansfollower9928
@revansfollower9928 Жыл бұрын
Some fungis are even worse than the cordyceps
@namenotfound614
@namenotfound614 Жыл бұрын
Cordyceps is actually pretty good for the body, and it's used for traditional chinese medicine, which is very surprising Also cordyceps is insanely expensive
@HatKidPeck
@HatKidPeck Жыл бұрын
@@namenotfound614 cyclosporine for the Immune System, the thing that makes Ellie Immune, keep an eye on OP, they might be the key to saving the world in a couple’o years.
@HBDiniz10
@HBDiniz10 Жыл бұрын
I've seen people in the comments say that it could "mutate" but even if it could survive inside the human body, taking control of our ridiculously complex brain system would require millions of years and even then it wouldn't turn us into crazy monsters that bite other people lol
@russkatherealoriginal6904
@russkatherealoriginal6904 Жыл бұрын
Last of us cordyceps fans when people tell them that "adapting" to a new host will take millions of years.
@MediumRareOpinions
@MediumRareOpinions Жыл бұрын
The kind of mutations that the fungus has are randomly produced but beneficial chemical triggers that influence the Ants biochemistry. It doesn't "control" anything with purpose and the ants dependence on chemical signalling made it possible that random mutations eventually produced a fungus which trips an ants behavior in a particular way.
@mrbuttocks6772
@mrbuttocks6772 Жыл бұрын
Even rabies can't make a human bite, and that shit has had PLENTY of time to adapt to human brains.
@Pulang_Diwa
@Pulang_Diwa Жыл бұрын
Rabies tho.
@anon4854
@anon4854 Жыл бұрын
Because thanks to OPs monotone he softballed just how much more complex and powerful a human immune system is compared to a bugs. We have _the most_ complex immune system of any species alive or dead.
@marlowodonnell8323
@marlowodonnell8323 Жыл бұрын
Me through the entire video : Holy shat please don't say yes...
@conor-smith572
@conor-smith572 Жыл бұрын
Another factor is that insects have very simple brains, where a single chemical signal might be all they need to seek out water, or a high place, etc. Human brains are monstrously complex and poking it is more likely to just turn you into a vegetable rather than bite people.
@2ez4Q
@2ez4Q Жыл бұрын
“Fungi will adapt to warmer climates by developing greater heat tolerance,” said Casadevall, who is a microbiologist specializing in fungal diseases at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. “Some will then be able to grow at human temperatures and cause new fungal diseases that we have not seen before.” -WP
@FascinatedByFungi
@FascinatedByFungi Жыл бұрын
Yup, that is true, but Cordyceps still aren’t going to turn humans into zombies.
@ruberxwibebadhi
@ruberxwibebadhi Жыл бұрын
@@FascinatedByFungi can you go into details in a video/post why would our immune system be able to defend against cordyceps in this scenario?
@Corvaric
@Corvaric Жыл бұрын
@@ruberxwibebadhi because Cordyceps' prey rn are insects. Insects' immune systems compared to an average human immune system is like trying to compare 1 layer of thin cloth's protection to steel armor. Or perhaps the comparison of a simple "If-Then" command to a program running other programs at the same time is a better comparison. Simply put, Cordyceps haven't mutated and evolved enough to get on our level. It'll take it an insanely long time before it gets to the same level as the Ants situation and by that time, we'd probably already have been prepared for it because it's just gonna take that long.
@ruberxwibebadhi
@ruberxwibebadhi Жыл бұрын
@@Corvaric we don't know if the virus was mutated or engineered though.
@cn2673
@cn2673 Жыл бұрын
@@FascinatedByFungi ah yes who you are referencing was talking about a change in temperature that they can adapt to of about 0.4 degrees Celsius over a LONG period of time
@devin_details
@devin_details Жыл бұрын
Crazy thing about cordyceps is there is no mind control involved. The fungus releases chemicals that control the movements of the muscles in the ants. The ants are usually completely aware of their own surroundings. They are basically imprisoned in their own bodies until the cordyceps executes them.
@jacobbillups4715
@jacobbillups4715 Жыл бұрын
Slight tangent but this falls perfectly into a category (for me at least) where there is a disconnect between understanding macro vs micro/molecular biology. Like I completely understand the concept of the cordyceps controlling the ants muscle movements instead of hijacking their brain. Then I also get the mechanism of action to make a muscle contract. The disconnect is in the middle where you aren’t in a still snapshot of time. At that point I have no idea how tf these chemicals can be secreted in real time to move the exact muscles necessary to get where it’s going.
@itsgonnabeanaurfromme
@itsgonnabeanaurfromme Жыл бұрын
​@@jacobbillups4715 that's how it works.specific patterns of behavior allow species to propagate. The movement of the ants is more random than directed in each step but ultimately to humid areas. It's natural selection for the fungi. Like rabies. Rabies is transmitted through the saliva. And being infected with rabies triggers aggressive behavior making you most likely to attack and bite. Rabies also causes fear of water and intense salivation and contraction of the pharynx, which just so happens to increase saliva from the mouth for transmission.
@Julesorjulz
@Julesorjulz Жыл бұрын
It could happen, but I really doubt we'd be running around biting people. It would probably just kill us 😅 slowly and miserably
@MrJoelMiller
@MrJoelMiller Жыл бұрын
It’ll make you sick, but not turn you into a zombie
@ChunKy_Dud
@ChunKy_Dud Жыл бұрын
thats still scary
@joeysmith7296
@joeysmith7296 Жыл бұрын
Anti fungal and Immune System Could help make humans not as susceptible to the "fungus"
@Foogi9000
@Foogi9000 Жыл бұрын
If it worked similarly to the Ant variant we'd have humans climbing buildings and infecting a massive amount of people. That's some junji ito level shit right there.
@firstletterofthealphabet7308
@firstletterofthealphabet7308 Жыл бұрын
evolution only favors positive or neutral factors. there are wayyyyyy too many factors that have to line up in just two or three generations of fungi to make it possible for it to become a human mind controller.
@Real_NCR_RangerNV
@Real_NCR_RangerNV Жыл бұрын
I read about real scientists say it’s not likely but it’s possible
@anthonyb9226
@anthonyb9226 Жыл бұрын
Who just watched the last of us premiere and came here lol
@irishjay9485
@irishjay9485 Жыл бұрын
Me
@TheNightmareOfAll
@TheNightmareOfAll Жыл бұрын
How
@panzermkii7675
@panzermkii7675 2 жыл бұрын
What if it's a bio-engineered weapon?
@nicolasnareshkumar
@nicolasnareshkumar Жыл бұрын
@The Zealous Chief thank you chief
@SolarBeingAsh
@SolarBeingAsh Жыл бұрын
Are you *trying* to give me nightmares?? (ᗒᗣᗕ)՞
@Davesytb
@Davesytb Жыл бұрын
Umbrella wants to know you location
@joeyfalcon1793
@joeyfalcon1793 Жыл бұрын
@@nicolasnareshkumar 19 stands for 2019 lol
@halo_girl_2434
@halo_girl_2434 Жыл бұрын
The problem would be controlling it once it’s unleashed. A virus you develop a vaccine for, bacteria a medicine, fungi however are extremely difficult to kill as soon as it’s in the human body due to the nature of it’s cell structure. It’s a eukaryotic cell, so the medication needed to attack the fungus would more than likely attack human cells as well. It wouldn’t make a good weapon, because you can’t control who can and who can’t get infected
@Alexei_xyz
@Alexei_xyz Жыл бұрын
"So if that happens" "We loose"
@freakkyser
@freakkyser 10 ай бұрын
The biggest thing about this is that insects dont have an adaptive immune system, the fungus doesnt need to try any harder to infect its orey thus the chance of mutating is low, even then it would probably just go to different insects
@Zayskibop
@Zayskibop 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if our affinity towards growing them and eating them might change that. Hell, we’re growing them and making more already, maybe they already have us in their grips!!
@cometboston2702
@cometboston2702 Жыл бұрын
I like it
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 Жыл бұрын
​@@cometboston2702 Taste quite bland
@cometboston2702
@cometboston2702 Жыл бұрын
@@fajaradi1223 no I like the idea that mushrooms have already taken over our brains, the taste of mushrooms is kinda woody and earthy bro
@LarryWater
@LarryWater Жыл бұрын
@@fajaradi1223 They taste good.
@birinderwarraich1179
@birinderwarraich1179 Жыл бұрын
Chinese have been eating them for a long time
@PredatorH2O
@PredatorH2O Жыл бұрын
This only answers the question "Can it happen right now?"
@rebs4jezus
@rebs4jezus Жыл бұрын
Exactly this guy was dropped hard as fuck on his head as a kid
@NikitaNinties
@NikitaNinties Жыл бұрын
@@rebs4jezusdamn relax my guy
@MrJoelMiller
@MrJoelMiller Жыл бұрын
No it can’t, fungi takes like years to evolve and even if we had cordyceps inside, it’s not gonna make you a full blown zombie, it’s a reason why last of us sci fi
@pandahq8895
@pandahq8895 Жыл бұрын
Well it would take hundreds of thousands more likely even millions of years plus the perfect environment for cordyceps to to evolve to infect mammals or vertebrates ingeneral. However, the moment cordyceps start infecting mammals especially chimps we should start panicking immediately.
@sauron1414
@sauron1414 Жыл бұрын
@@rebs4jezusyou were dropped hard if you think fungi taking over humans is possible. inbred.
@Corporal_Coyote
@Corporal_Coyote Жыл бұрын
Roanoke gaming went into this topic and how our immune system fights fungi and how it could override it. Neat video which id 100% recommend.
@chairgaming1997
@chairgaming1997 Жыл бұрын
I am genuinely freaked out by this fungi
@qasmokes
@qasmokes 2 жыл бұрын
What if the fungi entered a human with no immunity system? Would they die?
@sadcat5574
@sadcat5574 2 жыл бұрын
Well .... Yes
@prestigev6131
@prestigev6131 2 жыл бұрын
If a human didn’t have an immune system, other diseases would kill them before cordiceps could
@qasmokes
@qasmokes 2 жыл бұрын
@@prestigev6131 Excluding that, of course
@ExtremeAcer
@ExtremeAcer 2 жыл бұрын
I you were born with no immune system, Cordyceps would be the least of your problems
@qasmokes
@qasmokes 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeAcer Cordyceps infection speedrun
@a.j.kimball1240
@a.j.kimball1240 Жыл бұрын
Yall should know that cordyceps and similar fungi have existed as we know it since at least the Jurassic, if not much earlier. And not once do we have evidence of them going to a host outside of arthropods. They are very specialized for their current hosts and have no means, nor reason to jump hosts to mammals, or any other vertebrate for that matter. Our size, immune systems, anatomy, microbiomes, and metabolism are all wildly different from that of arthropods. The closest we have, and likely we're ever going to get, to cordyceps fungi is parasitic fungi like athlete's foot, ringworm, and parasitic yeasts. These parasites are doing just fine, and have no evolutionary reasoning to take over your body and kill you. Remember, evolution is about "survival of the good enough". If an organism can survive and doesn't need a ton of unnecessary and out of the way adaptations to do something, its gonna just keep doing what its doing.
@derBleistiftkritzler
@derBleistiftkritzler Жыл бұрын
Combine that with the fact that ants are basicly everywhere there is no reason for the fungus to adapt
@joeisdude
@joeisdude Жыл бұрын
And even if the temperature were to rise (like a lot), it might not even evolve. The fungi could just die off.
@bongfulgencio2046
@bongfulgencio2046 Жыл бұрын
with all honesty i felt relieved hearing this...
@V0X6666
@V0X6666 18 күн бұрын
Excuse me, but you forgot Fungus evolves Fungus adapts Fungus is unpredictable
@MrJoelMiller
@MrJoelMiller Жыл бұрын
And typically speaking, it can’t get into our nervous system, because it’s connected to several different organs
@joeysmith7296
@joeysmith7296 Жыл бұрын
Oh Mister "Studied Biology" suddenly knows so much about biology?
@thesnakeman8006
@thesnakeman8006 Жыл бұрын
It may not be realistic,sure but the sheer thought alone that it could happen in a universe similar to the show and the games is still kinda terrifying AF
@jeremyroy95
@jeremyroy95 Жыл бұрын
Cordyceps are actually an amazing supplement and give you God like cardio. There was a chinese olympic swim team that blew everyone out of the water one year and they credited it to cordys.
@jamesnowell9793
@jamesnowell9793 Жыл бұрын
On behalf of people with anxiety that like dark tv shows Thank you for making this video
@annabellechambers679
@annabellechambers679 Жыл бұрын
Man I feel you I feel the same way
@ireallycantthinkofaname4726
@ireallycantthinkofaname4726 11 ай бұрын
Yeah
@azanfaiz622
@azanfaiz622 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the an explanation, it make me feel safe.. 😂😂😂😂
@MrJoelMiller
@MrJoelMiller Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t even know why some people are jumping the gun on how cordyceps can happen 😑
@SomeGuyOnline320
@SomeGuyOnline320 Жыл бұрын
Not only that, but for the 400 species of Cordyceps fungi, all of them are HIGHLY specialised to a specific species. For example Ophiocordyceps sinensis only infects the caterpillar larvae of Ghost Moths, Ophiocordyceps unilateralis are specialised to Formicine ants, Cordyceps Ignota infect Tarantulas, and Some even go after other species of fungus instead of insects
@VOZmonsoon
@VOZmonsoon Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of sci-fi not having to be fancy hi-tech future settings with space and lasers, but a slightly altered modern setting
@dragonflydolemite
@dragonflydolemite Жыл бұрын
Never underestimate nature
@deeyaygo9336
@deeyaygo9336 Жыл бұрын
😂
@DAK4Blizzard
@DAK4Blizzard Жыл бұрын
True, but not in the way you're probably thinking. Few consider all the other animals it could infect before infecting humans.
@anon4854
@anon4854 Жыл бұрын
Dont overestimate it either. The human immune system is the most complex immune system of any species living or dead.
@DAK4Blizzard
@DAK4Blizzard Жыл бұрын
@@anon4854 Agreed. Just because a certain aggressive, parasitic mold species can suddenly tolerate higher temps doesn't mean it can beat an immune system. And then, once it does, be able to control a brain and nervous system far more complex than an ant's. It's an interesting concept, different from how most zombie stories go. But that doesn't mean we should actually be concerned.
@anon4854
@anon4854 Жыл бұрын
@@DAK4Blizzard Yeah the temp argument is extremely weak. I think people dont really understand just how big a leap it is from being able to survive at a certain temperature to overcoming a highly complex immune system let alone manipulating biological and neurological structures infinitely more complex than an insects.
@lee_land_y69
@lee_land_y69 Жыл бұрын
It’s actually doing some effort to be plausible. I love that now there is a tv series and more ppl get to appreciate this amazing universe. I wish horizon got a tv series adaption as well. Also a a beautiful ai apocalypse story
@stoff_alien2414
@stoff_alien2414 Жыл бұрын
May not be realistic but still scary as hell to run into one of these
@AYAHPINBENAR
@AYAHPINBENAR Жыл бұрын
If the fungus can mutate to fight our immune system like COVID-19. It will be night mare
@DJSoloSound
@DJSoloSound 2 жыл бұрын
What if the person has a Compromised Immune system??
@prestigev6131
@prestigev6131 2 жыл бұрын
If their immune system was that compromised, more common bacteria and viruses would’ve killed them long before they encountered a cordyceps spore
@lunaasonininongry6297
@lunaasonininongry6297 Жыл бұрын
Compromised immune system have medicine where they can get the immunity they need. They take these medications all the time to accommodate their bodies lack of immunity.
@hi.694
@hi.694 Жыл бұрын
I think in that case, the forbidden shrooms will have to take a number behind Covid, the common cold, chicken pox, the flu, black mold, a random bacteria that was on the wall, and the hundred million other things that have already evolved to infect humans.
@hi.694
@hi.694 Жыл бұрын
In other words, don't worry, there are plenty of things out there that will try to kill us before the evil shrooms can get at our brains. :)
@bunsenn5064
@bunsenn5064 Жыл бұрын
The fungus still wouldn’t zombify you. Worst case scenario, the fungus makes you really sick, and you have to get intravenous antifungals.
@nicktorres5540
@nicktorres5540 Жыл бұрын
We all know some where, someone is making/working on a version of this to weaponize. Imagine what they could do if they released that upon us
@tharakanewan3544
@tharakanewan3544 Жыл бұрын
Rabies would be a much better option. It has most of the features (behavior wise) depicted in sci-fi literature.
@nicktorres5540
@nicktorres5540 Жыл бұрын
@@tharakanewan3544 like 28 days later. Not zombies but rabies maddened crazy’s. That can transfer with spit, scratch, blood, bite. They’d starve and die after a few weeks or dehydration with millions dead and effected. 100% see that more plausible
@soldiergaming8375
@soldiergaming8375 Жыл бұрын
No because governments already have far more scarier and deadlier biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons, like VX nerve gas, anthrax, so on.
@osvaldoromeros.7115
@osvaldoromeros.7115 Жыл бұрын
Bro the fungus aint a viable way to make a biological weapon, u got viruses and bacteria, way better options to kill a human, fungus are weak asf, even feaver can kill em
@nicktorres5540
@nicktorres5540 Жыл бұрын
@@osvaldoromeros.7115 rabies too
@royalheadquarters8449
@royalheadquarters8449 Жыл бұрын
The thing is our bodies would simply collapse under the damage long before images such as in that game are archieved. While spreading, the fungus would deal much more damage to our insides before even becoming visible on the outside, meaning we would still look like regular humans.
@riositie
@riositie 10 ай бұрын
Clicker: "I'm the mushroom man I'm the fungi fellow"
@andresl6256
@andresl6256 Жыл бұрын
What if it’s the ppl that don’t take mushrooms get infected? *takes cordyceps and lions mane
@buddyzf
@buddyzf Жыл бұрын
if it does, the infection would be over in days and humanity lived on like it never happened.
@joeysmith7296
@joeysmith7296 Жыл бұрын
HIV SARS Covid-19 (maybe) The Common Cold The Flu
@firstletterofthealphabet7308
@firstletterofthealphabet7308 Жыл бұрын
@@joeysmith7296 Those are all viruses with airborne transmission. over within a week unless and only if the patient has underlying conditions. Fungal infections work very differently.
@joeysmith7296
@joeysmith7296 Жыл бұрын
@@firstletterofthealphabet7308 HIV is spread through blood and can last a lifetime Couldnt our immune system fight off the fungus with the help of anti fungal medication?
@imag-nonespaghet9337
@imag-nonespaghet9337 Жыл бұрын
​@@joeysmith7296we are talking about a fungus dude.
@joeysmith7296
@joeysmith7296 Жыл бұрын
@@imag-nonespaghet9337 you want some meth (not a setup)
@meziembamara4004
@meziembamara4004 Жыл бұрын
WW1- Rufles WW2- Tanks WW3- Bread 🍞 ?
@parkwalker2605
@parkwalker2605 Жыл бұрын
POV: you passed Biology
@cultimagination
@cultimagination 2 жыл бұрын
still i wounder if perposly pushed,could it breach that barrior between insect and human? i think i heard that some can infect mice and rats but i dont remember if it was true or not
@cometboston2702
@cometboston2702 Жыл бұрын
Funny you say that because one of the first few pictures is actually the fungi growing out of a birds skull
@derBleistiftkritzler
@derBleistiftkritzler Жыл бұрын
​@@cometboston2702 it is a flies exoskeleton
@gloriayoung392
@gloriayoung392 3 жыл бұрын
Great video ☺️
@randompersoncuzwhynot
@randompersoncuzwhynot 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you happy it could affect us and it really could be the last of us. Edit: Am so dam scared now.
@lamelemin5508
@lamelemin5508 11 ай бұрын
@@randompersoncuzwhynot In reality, it wouldn't be the last of us. First off, the human immune system > insects and the fungus took millions of years to only infect insects.
@tricursor2481
@tricursor2481 Ай бұрын
This wouldn't just happen, it would have to evolve over millions of years. Not only does the fungis need to evolve to handle the heat of our bodies, it also needs to know what to do to our bodies, which is a game of random chance mutations until something works that results in a better liklihood of spreading its genes. Basically, we'd notice real quick at the very first step if we were finding cordyceps colonies at autopsy
@jakd2962
@jakd2962 Жыл бұрын
I feel really bad for the bugs that get infected with these fungi, must be a horrific way to die.
@freshoffthecap
@freshoffthecap 3 жыл бұрын
Straight 📠! Thank you for all you do. I’m always looking out for your videos on tiktok 😁
@spacegoose6358
@spacegoose6358 Жыл бұрын
If a zombie outbreak ever breaks out I hope it starts in Texas. It’d be over in a day.
@joeysmith7296
@joeysmith7296 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by that Ive noticed a lot of people say that
@Luke_Skywalker1836
@Luke_Skywalker1836 5 ай бұрын
@@joeysmith7296lot of crime
@joeysmith7296
@joeysmith7296 5 ай бұрын
@@Luke_Skywalker1836 that is wrong
@GreenGlo1991
@GreenGlo1991 Жыл бұрын
It really disturbs me when people are kind of disappointed about this? LIKE THANK GOD?!
@user-cz2kv3jt5b
@user-cz2kv3jt5b Жыл бұрын
But it’s not a realistic scenario.. Bill gates enters chat.
@ruskibeluga6338
@ruskibeluga6338 Жыл бұрын
Bro the average city in Texas could take out a whole zombie apocalypse in 3 months
@GasolineLicker
@GasolineLicker Жыл бұрын
lmao 💀
@joeysmith7296
@joeysmith7296 Жыл бұрын
My brother, me and my friends have 24 guns combined, it would not take texas 3 months. It would take 1 month at the most
@ruskibeluga6338
@ruskibeluga6338 Жыл бұрын
@@joeysmith7296 probably
@MONKEYLOUAI
@MONKEYLOUAI 9 ай бұрын
"evolve or die"
@mrgray5576
@mrgray5576 Жыл бұрын
Cordyceps cant pass the blood brain barrier.
@bigbaba1111
@bigbaba1111 Жыл бұрын
We have macrophages. That's what saves us.
@joeysmith7296
@joeysmith7296 Жыл бұрын
What about neutrophils? They want in on the fun 😢
@zyern2822
@zyern2822 3 жыл бұрын
Sure mr human not cordycepts man
@TheUnplannedLove
@TheUnplannedLove Жыл бұрын
This guy: “This can’t happen to humans.” Wuhan Scientists: “Is that a challenge?!”
@robertlee4809
@robertlee4809 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a "Y'all hold my beer and watch this shit!" moment.....
@MrJoelMiller
@MrJoelMiller Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t work like that, the chance of that ever happening is zero because no amount of genetic modification is going to make the cordyceps that infects an ant turn into a full blown zombie
@TheUnplannedLove
@TheUnplannedLove Жыл бұрын
@@MrJoelMiller when you realize that people can cross mushroom breeds 🍄 together… if you have a psychedelic mushroom mixed with one of these? I think it’s more possible than you think. I wouldn’t definitively say “not possible” to anyone evil enough to try.
@vividest7627
@vividest7627 Жыл бұрын
Fungus thinks their tough s*** till they hear about Napalm
@Vyap2702
@Vyap2702 Жыл бұрын
Stranger things theme fits perfect in every video
@emmetentertainment2863
@emmetentertainment2863 Жыл бұрын
For people worrying Cordyceps are actually GOOD for humans, and will not turn us into zombies.
@imag-nonespaghet9337
@imag-nonespaghet9337 Жыл бұрын
How come? I'm not hating I just want to understand this better.
@emmetentertainment2863
@emmetentertainment2863 Жыл бұрын
@@imag-nonespaghet9337 Cordyceps can be used in alot of medicines, and dishes, its perfectly safe to consume,
@imag-nonespaghet9337
@imag-nonespaghet9337 Жыл бұрын
@@emmetentertainment2863 oh neat.
@EndersonOmega25000
@EndersonOmega25000 Жыл бұрын
There is a great creepypasta about this kind of thing. Too bad that I forgot what it is called.
@EndersonOmega25000
@EndersonOmega25000 Жыл бұрын
Never mind. Here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6elp6ynrL6Mbdk
@nightcrawler5409
@nightcrawler5409 Жыл бұрын
Up
@imperium4821
@imperium4821 Жыл бұрын
The smile tapes...
@ghostexploring3438
@ghostexploring3438 10 ай бұрын
Bruh it’s fcking hot outside in TX and yet no Zombie Fungus jumps to humans and probably will never though 💀🙂
@jurassicsmackdown6359
@jurassicsmackdown6359 Жыл бұрын
"cordyceps-like fungi" So... Cordyceps, then
@geronimo5537
@geronimo5537 Жыл бұрын
But also the human body is terrible at fighting off funguses and parasites. So really its not as impossible of scenario as it seems. More after some billion dollar government research Im sure.
@linkjourney422
@linkjourney422 Жыл бұрын
This Guy: Thankfully a human’s immune system is far better equipped than an ants to deal with the cordyceps… Gain of Function Research: Yeah I’m gonna have to stop you right there…
@alakazamgengar5434
@alakazamgengar5434 Жыл бұрын
In the current form we are safe. But mutations over time can change that. Plus with certain pressures, jumping species isn’t impossible.
@derBleistiftkritzler
@derBleistiftkritzler Жыл бұрын
Yes but ot would take on less complex lifeforms first or more likely
@TheMisterbobman
@TheMisterbobman Жыл бұрын
A fungus which evolved to control insects brains, attempting to control a human brain would be a lot like trying to hack a quantum super computer using a comador 64
@psychedelictacos9118
@psychedelictacos9118 Жыл бұрын
At least in the Last of Us world they did not have to endure the Corona Virus pandemic!
@Lemon_Sage9999
@Lemon_Sage9999 Жыл бұрын
That photo of a dead cordyceps fly is so cool, I've never seen a fly without eyes
@seangray2481
@seangray2481 Жыл бұрын
" I’m gonna watch one last short before bed " the short
@fredburleigh574
@fredburleigh574 Жыл бұрын
Lizard people- “hold my beer”
@theHUMANAUT1
@theHUMANAUT1 Жыл бұрын
I eat cordyceps daily so uhm I'm immune
@ChrisTuckerCarlzyn
@ChrisTuckerCarlzyn Жыл бұрын
Even if it did infect humans it wouldn’t be like the game or show, the infected humans would just climb to really high place and lay down and die. The real enemy wouldn’t be the “zombies” but the spores that burst from their head
@MrJoelMiller
@MrJoelMiller Жыл бұрын
Yep, and that’s what people don’t realize
@ryanw7196
@ryanw7196 Жыл бұрын
I randomly saw an advertisement for various mushroom based supplements the other day and I saw one of them was cordyceps, my eyes went a bit wide lol.
@missbelle_elle
@missbelle_elle Жыл бұрын
I love your voice & the way you explained that 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@michaelleewagaman301
@michaelleewagaman301 Жыл бұрын
That's why there's a big push on eating bugs.
@cassiusaojuederie5418
@cassiusaojuederie5418 Жыл бұрын
This is the video I needed after binging it yesterday, safe
@paragonshadow
@paragonshadow Жыл бұрын
Him: it's an incredible work of fiction. Gain of function researchers: hold my beer.
@jackreese3807
@jackreese3807 Жыл бұрын
The reason there is potential scariness, for humans is because the process these things are taking is very similar to every other major disease that is spread to humans in history, like the black plague started out as a virus that moved to insect than the small animals and on up. The fungi in question has already been seen to move from insects to small lizards.
@neko_of_death6774
@neko_of_death6774 Жыл бұрын
“We won’t be hijack the same way as insects” not yet
@JoseTorres-ry9qe
@JoseTorres-ry9qe Жыл бұрын
Not YET. the human body is only a few degrees above tolerance
@slavarossii_666
@slavarossii_666 Жыл бұрын
The human body is to hot on the inside it would die trying to get in us
@georggeorgiev2618
@georggeorgiev2618 Жыл бұрын
You're the first who explained it right!!!
@charleighbumba5538
@charleighbumba5538 Жыл бұрын
Actually it is very possible because fungus evolves to the host 🤔 so technically , if it needed humans to do their bidding they would evolve to do so. Fungi is the oldest species known
@MrJoelMiller
@MrJoelMiller Жыл бұрын
No it’s not, yes fungi can evolve, but it’s scientifically impossible for it to enter humans because you have the nervous system and cardiovascular system blocking it, furthermore we use the same Cordyceps that infects an ant for medicine, and also even if we did get Cordyceps it’s gonna make us go to a higher place and releases spores (which it does to ants) rather then a cannibalistic zombie
@ryannichols3101
@ryannichols3101 Жыл бұрын
Gain of function researchers: yea about that 😅
@RSAgility
@RSAgility Жыл бұрын
"it's not a realistic scenario, the spores are weak and humans have complex immune system" *Military Industrial Complex* : "Hold my bioweapons lab kit!" Or "We need this to keep America and its children safe!"
@TheCompleteMental
@TheCompleteMental 6 ай бұрын
It's probably not feasible since the fungus moves the insect by interacting with their basically-hydraulic locomotion systems and exoskeletons, which are about as different from humans as you can get animal-wise.
@nunomartins97
@nunomartins97 Жыл бұрын
It's not "cordyceps-like fungi" it's literally the cordyceps fungi
@mattgraham7079
@mattgraham7079 Жыл бұрын
Your hoodie is so dope
@drumpdump1995
@drumpdump1995 Жыл бұрын
As an immunologist, that signaling pathway triggers me. Interesting that it inhibits inflammasome assembly
@joeysmith7296
@joeysmith7296 Жыл бұрын
Could cordinsects infect humans like in the show And flour too?
@ElSpartan667
@ElSpartan667 5 ай бұрын
People just forget that other people before, used knowledge to make a game ,they simply thought oh wow a cordyceps like humaoid would be super cool.
@joshcauwels
@joshcauwels Жыл бұрын
Thank god
@MrBensella
@MrBensella Жыл бұрын
The real misconception is that there is no treatment… its got DNA, RNA it can be treated…
@STABBYAB
@STABBYAB Жыл бұрын
Last of Us: We Created A Fungus That Makes Ppl Turn Into Zombies! Nature: Copy & Paste 😂
@laceybraden2813
@laceybraden2813 Жыл бұрын
Actually, ever since the show came out, there has been several studies done where this could actually happen to us. But are immune systems how we get sick that would all have to be shot to shit, If we developed as humans with weaker immune systems, weaker White blood cells, etc… and temperatures rising in every part of the universe, this would most likely happen, but we probably will never see it in our lifetime.
@JustTuningIn
@JustTuningIn Жыл бұрын
"So we won't be hijacked the same way..." something an infected fungi human would say!
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