CAN ENGINES BECOME ADDICTED TO STARTING FLUID ?

Time to upset the keyboard mechanics and dispel some myths surrounding Ether after last weeks Will It Start ? Now will it start without Ether ?

[@bigwig8927]

I wonder who’s going to be the first muppet to argue against the facts? 🤣 Great video mucka, well explained and really well presented.

[@anthonyyoung7344]

I'm not a muppet I happened to be a diesel mechanic and a diesel engine will get addicted to ether I don't care what anyone says I work on them all the time people use it year around because thay got it addicted to ether so you can believe what you want I know.

[@bigwig8927]

Anthony Young Can you let us all know where you work ? That way we can avoid letting you near our trucks ! You’re pretty fucking stupid if you can’t understand the FACTS that mucka put in the video ! You’re no diesel mechanic.

[@ProjectMarlin]

@@anthonyyoung7344 I'm not a muppet I happened to be a diesel mechanic too and those engines that wont start without ether even in the summer are fucked and need rebuilding. 9 times out 10 the the rings and bores are shagged through high hours or poor maintenance and would still be shagged if ether didn't exist. Addicted to ether just means the owner/operator cant be arsed to fix the problem and the only way to start it is with compression in a can.

[@amps8lfc]

@@anthonyyoung7344 what an idiot u are 😂😂

[@ziptiesnbiasplies]

I never use it! Great Vidya buddy!

[@LordMuck]

I feel like I've been granted an audience from the master himself 😀 Thanks for watching Peg, keep shittin' outta your ass ! Miiiiiiint ! 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@davidsstfarrelltighe]

That's the greatest lie ever peg I've seen you run shit on cosby in a can 😂😂😂😂😂

[@oliver-ht1lv]

Hahahahahahahaha

[@heza1958]

Big problem around Lincolnshire ,out of work homeless tractors ,lines of em all sniffin either and asking for handouts.

[@CarlHargreavesRustyRelicsUK]

Your quite rite Mucka, the only problem with ether is the dope using it, and emptying half a can down it's throat. engines only get "addicted" to it because there fucked 👍 we've rebuilt loads of engines and always been down to worn bores, piston rings, lack of compression.

[@blackbirdmark495]

I know this video is 2yrs old but i just love your explanation on the use/overuse of using ether to start a diesel engine. Everything is ok in moderation. Keep up the good videos 👍

[@LordMuck]

Its timeless - the facts are the same 😉

[@totalutternutter]

Ether is the automotive equivalent of giving an old TV set a measured whack, results will vary but when correctly administered the uninitiated can mistake it for a repair.

[@LordMuck]

That's a fair summary however when correctly administered to a 'decent set' in the right conditions it's like having Sky for free...

[@seanworkman431]

That's fucking hilarious, I haven't seen a good TV whack for years but I could swear my Grandpa knew what he was doing.

[@andrewmason2605]

One showy winters day we where starting a jcb 525-58 and it was smoking but would not fire, so I held the key in the heat position. At the same time the old lad that worked in the yard pulled out the air filter and sprayed ether into the filter housing not noing I was holding the key, well the thermostart heater plug ignited the ether and a fire ball come out the filter housing and when I looked the old lad had a black face and burt eye brows. Well I was pissing my self in the snow so funny😂

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

Too many cartoons?

[@LordMuck]

Not enough drugs ?

[@trockodile]

We had an after market ether cold start system fitted on our trucks when I worked in Germany MANY years ago to lower the flash point and warm the engine in the pre-heater days. Used sparingly and when actually required it was a godsent but it required a trained operator to be the brain for that truck, if it didn't start you found out why and you fixed it! Great to hear someone talking basic engineering sense. Nice upload. 👍

[@LordMuck]

That's the way to use it in a nutshell 👌🏼

[@hsagri69]

LORD MUCK STEP AWAY FROM THE SOAPBOX! Bout time someone tried to educate people on how eather is supposed to be used. Iv experienced someone use half a can trying to start a jcb 536-60 with a broken lift pump. He then went to get his new can. Couldn't find it anywhere. He knew he had a new can. He knew it was in there. Good job he didnt look in the back of me pickup 🤣

[@tractorboyyy2592]

A rebuild in a can omg that has got me in tears 😂😂😂

[@carterfarms301]

I find putting diesel in my tank make my engine start 😉

[@joewitchell4778]

I love this guy he actually knows what he's doing ,don't see that everyday

[@asands4621]

Really well explained. Had the heater out of my fordson dexta last year and I never knew it was an actual flame

[@benf6165]

The hot air intake broke on my grandfather Ford 333, so we used would take the air filter out and blast it with a propane torch. Worked a treat especially on cold days.

[@shaunqueale282]

Not sure how i could get it in the post.......but down here in Aus we have some starting fluid called "Start ya' Bastard".. I kid you not.

[@michaelf9229]

Great video Kurt. The pictures to explain the sounds etc were brilliant.

[@TheGingerGenius78]

Top video ! Loving the rant :) clear and simple too ! Heard it many times about the “addiction to ether” and knock knock bang when muppets use half a can !! Keep up the good work !

[@BIGRIG2005.]

You are absolutely right mate. I bought a Nuffield 465 that had sat for 6 years, Changed all the oils fixed all the brakes and gaskets. Used a bit of ether (aerostart in Australia where I am) to wake her up and off she went. Next day started on the button no ether at all. See people, they don’t get addicted, it’s only to help if you’re finding it hard to start it.

[@TomBiggerstaff-gn1ws]

Good video good info. Here in the southern US addition to starting fluid is what we refer to some old tractor or logging equipment that had the problems you referred to but some guy didn't know how or want to spend the money to fix so after years of dry starting and wearing out the cylinder walls wouldn't have good compression to ignite fuel air mix and wouldn't start with out starting fluid keep the information coming

[@HamptonSimon]

Educational, to the point and hilarious as ever. Well done Sir.

[@stevengeater6198]

We call that stuff "Start you Barstard"! David Browns have a little sponge in the inlet manifold, but never used it.. Good video as always..!

[@garyz2043]

Ha ha,Ive heard of that stuff.If that dont work use For f87k sake c'mon

[@hfraat25]

One of the best explanations in farmer language you truly understand the job. We'll done... Ex diesel fuel injection engineer and hgv mechanic. 👍👍👍👍Could not have explained it better.. I know the frustration of dealing with Muppets. ☺☺

[@jaegerbomb4142]

Good to see you finally gaining subscribers like you deserve!

[@LordMuck]

Haha ! Thanks much appreciated but the thing is my channel will never grow fast as it doesn't appeal to the seat covers and fanboys. I film what I enjoy and share with other like-minded types with half a brain who understand and appreciate machinery and equipment. Good to have you with us.

[@jaegerbomb4142]

Lord Muck i wouldn’t be so sure. There’s a lot of folk like us around. Just need to get them watching KZbin!

[@grahampodbery8645]

Very good Kurt much the same thoughts as myself. I remember a elderly man trying to start a Bedford camper and he sprayed the whole can in within half a hour it was 3 days before it would turn over without locking.

[@Countrystock]

Love seeing your passion about this. Great stuff 👌

[@jamesjohnson5640]

Great explanation. I'm a or was a farm boy in the states. Grew up in Minnesota and on mornings when the wind chill is -30 F. WE HAD TO USE ETHER. Or light a fire under the engine to warm it up. And I don't think my father would have agreed to that going on under a $80000 tractor and cattle needing to be fed. Any way, we had ether attached to the engine on some or a can of it in the tool box. And if used properly and can of ether would last forever because like you said. It just needs a couple of squirts and you're good to go. Great vids. Really like how you make those old girls purr again.

[@LordMuck]

Spot on 👍

[@lifeiswhatyoumakeit5505]

Some operators need ether to get started

[@gethinjones1348]

Great video that explains ether to a tee mate, liked the inserted pictures throughout the explanation too! 😂😂

[@beboboymann3823]

A diesel is not a human being?? Does that mean I’ve wasted my time talking to my 7.3 Powerstroke all these years? We actually had a close relationship and understood each other. Noe I’m devastated.

[@LordMuck]

7.3's can communicate at a base level with humans.

[@csongorszoke4527]

You are completly right. I used starter spary on my ford 2000 tractor for 5 years but only in small amonts because i had a bad fuel pump, and my tractor did not start up byself even when the engine was warm and i needed the tractor to work. Two years ago i had a bit of time and i broght my pump to a shop for reconditioning and it was like 100$ and now my tractor works without any problem and it starts without any spray or anything.

[@mattwyatt2375]

Cracking vid once again kurt , looking forward to up coming vids .

[@kengraham4209]

I am a new subscriber and going over some old videos . A good video this one , being working on Marine diesals for 40 yrs and the Ether addiction is rediculous , the people who say it dont understand a lot . I agree entirely that the reason you have to use is because there is something wrong , and until you fix the original fault you will have to keep on using it , SIMPLE . As for wanging them over on the starter motor , this will just cause damage ! The insulation in the starter motor and on the leads is only made for 10 second bursts, so if you burn ya leads you will need to keep usin Ether because will end up slow starting speeds. As you said its all to do with heat on top of the pistons through compression , if they have being stood a long time , or being stood in sub zero temperatures the compression is going to be low . Long periods of storage , everything will have contracted and oil presence will have disappeared , sub zero temperatures same again . Every engine I have rebuilt has needed Ether till its warmed and the compression rises.

[@LordMuck]

Spot on 👌🏼

[@smathet7766]

I've been a heavy duty mechanic for 20 years and I've use ether many times for various reasons. An engine does not get addicted to ether. If you need ether above freezing. The engine has low compression. It either needs a valve set or a rebuild.

[@LordMuck]

Spot on 👍

[@jacobskomager]

You’re dealing very well with the loads of bollocks 😁 Lovely enthusiasm you put into explaining stuff and make things clear 👍🏻

[@bobpaterson1845]

Brilliant video Kurt 👍 loved the humour to get the point across 😂 or did it succeed 🤔😂😂

[@philgardener7018]

Another great video. Yes a handy thing to have if used sensibly and like you said the addicted engines were worn out before they needed ether in the first place

[@jimscales8054]

Absolute Fact filled video LM...and I even remember back in the day crushable ether capsules we used to keep in the cabs of trucks with Detroit's every winter

[@lawrencelacenski9781]

Awesome explanation Mr Muck it’s been explained to me a few years back but this is by far A1

[@ferguson20diesel49]

If I have to use it. I use it sparingly. A little mist. Some think it requires half the can....

[@churchparkfarm3178]

Great video muck but the pictures had me shiting myself laughing 😂

[@davekauffman8727]

You've earned my likes and subscription, love your sense of humor. The guy from Vice Grip Garage does things specifically to irk the Safety Sams and super-mechanics it's hilarious. You know about the Diesel engine, your knowledge is 100% correct, they have done awful things to the simplest, most reliable engine though; they computerized farm equipment and vehicles so that only company service personell are able to make repairs. It's awful.

[@philipm1009]

Great video Lord muck very well said as with easy start much enjoyed fair play loving these videos looking forward to see the Ford 3000 in the future

[@3347861]

Dead on right information, and I was laughing the entire time. Nice work.

[@alwynwallace2775]

Great video mate! Brilliantly explained!

[@MrBusdriver63]

A very good video and you are right ,Ether used correctly will not cause any damage to a engine I use to use it all the on a International A554 tractor. I live in Maffra,in the state of Victoria,Australia.

[@beakittelscherz5419]

good Video.No nonsense and a clear way to eliminate the failures.thanks for showing.

[@niclasohlson]

A very good lesson about the use of ether!

[@OliverLee390]

Our T20 used to need a squirt of easy start, but its fine now without it, I think the whole addicted thing is really if you use ether every time you start it. For example a friend used to have a 4 cylinder diesel 35 that would never start without it, after a couple years of constant use.

[@gordonminchin6299]

The 4 cylinder 35 was a pig to start when new I used to see my dads friend tow start a 4 cylinder one

[@LordMuck]

That will be the Standard engine then !! 😂

[@OliverLee390]

@@LordMuck The joys of cold Somerset and presumably slack timing chains...

[@paullee4033]

There used to be a man in Newtown mid wales called Malcolm Davies who had a small agricultural engineering business I think he sold universal tractors who used to specialise in mf 35 4 cyls he used to modify the cylinder head and change the pistons which made them start and run smoother I only ever met him once he came over has a very knowledgable but very eccentric man

[@DOCTORDROTT]

I modified all my drotts with heater plugs that took full battery voltage , not five volts after a resistor. Never had to use easy start again on those machines.. Will start fine in cold weather. Years ago when I worked on plant, an old B100 on a cold morning would not start. twin oil bath cleaners. Dropped off one bowl and used a burning rag on a stick. Started ok, but then noticed the paint on the second oil bath bowl starting to bubble ! the oil had caught fire . oops.

[@LordMuck]

As you'd expect with decent heaters 👍

[@ghostrider7688]

Great response mate what a video cracking rebuttal to the Ether Heads on here (myself included ) love an ole sniff of the ether now n again , just enuf as you rightly say , just enough to get the heat in there 💥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👌

[@WillCN514]

Y' got real nice overalls the first one I've seen is a claas and now it's JCB

[@theghostofcornpop4175]

Brilliant 👌

[@stevebloke5455]

Great comedy made me laugh like buggery. have to say iv never heard of a 4 cylinder junkie. some people have some strange ideas, maybe that's why they don't stop to think if they're having problems there is some thing wrong. keep up the good work.

[@daveshepherd5352]

Finally someone that knows their stuff ! Brilliant video and had me laughing too ! Keep it up.

[@markhorsburgh3989]

Love the video, great explanation, brilliant use of various monkey / detonation pictures 🤣🤣🤣 Sounds like a lot of people need to go hunt out a copy of Diesel Mechanics by Erich Schultz 😂

[@jamieshields9521]

Great explanation on Ether👍one hot harvest I had my tractor running just idling trying to keep cool, well one old fart came up n told me that I will Glaze the engine n I look at thinking that happens to old tractors not new ones. Mucka can do explanation on this myth, thanks👍. The tractor in use was JD 9520 12lt six pulling 38t chaser bin.

[@kevinwillis9126]

Thanks Kurt great vid mate..

[@caddydan7427]

Amen brother. Well said

[@mattfisher7432]

That was a good video. I totally agree with everything u said. I knew an old international that, on a frosty day. Just needed a little puff to get going. But the rest of the year it would happily go to work without any help. But I've seen people stand there, and wind half a can in, with the resulting bang and clouds of black smoke. It's so obvious there is something els wrong. Some will continue this procedure for years, then when it's totally ruined. Will say. Well it was always a bad starter.

[@Dextamartijn]

Looking forward to you getting that 3000 running I always get a kick out of people that think ether is such a horrible thing. Like you said in moderation it works well great explanation that is exactly how I was taught to use ether

[@matthammond2023]

My old dad used to take the bottom of the air clear light a bit of paper feed bag and put it under while I turned it over worked ok as long as the hole thing didn't go up in flames think fixing the heater plugs would have been better

[@saxovtr1234]

Brilliant video 👍

[@f0rumrr]

Great lecture, you make so much sense.

[@trams66]

I’m glad you made this video as I’ve been saying this for many years,, it’s not addictive it’s a shagged out or a faulty engine.

[@TheJimbradshaw]

Do you have to send your engine to rehab if it's developed an addiction ??? Love your videos keep up the good work 👍🏻👍🏻

[@makingithappen9722]

An old diesel engine often needs an extra push when it has been standing for a long time. There is nothing strange about that. However, I know that many people think it is completely wrong to use ether.

[@davidrobertson376]

Perkins used Ki gas on many of their engines. It is a squirt of diesel on a glow plug on the intake manifold. highly affective starting aid

[@lewisgardner1660]

Brilliant really brilliant well done.

[@bigtrucker26]

lol, great vid! I only came across 1 engine that took a prolonged shot of ether, it was a worn out, clapped out 15 liter in a semi (lori). It wouldn't cold start without it, and I would stand there another minute holding the go pedal, till it could idle. I was one of the only people that could start it on really cold mornings, and I got it to start every time.... I just woke up a lawn mower, that had been inoperable for months, with some (made sure to use small shots to get it to start, and stay running long enough to clear the carb)... I've driven semi trucks (lori's), with ether buttons....

[@LordMuck]

Lorrys.... 😉 or artics (articulated tractor units)

[@darrenmeany302]

Very good and very true everything you've just said is 100 percent correct. And i admire someone who tells something as it is.. fair play keep up the good content 👍

[@raoulcruz4404]

I like the quick cut to scenes. Or whatever they’re called.

[@AvonSearider54]

Laughing my tits off here, I've been saying the same thing to people for years, particularly the bloody idiots with outboards on fishing boats who don't seem to understand they shouldn't be going miles offshore with a knackered engine and a can of ether...

[@stevencummings2395]

That video really rings true... How many times have you heard people saying the shite about being addicted. Just fix the problem rather than squirting easy start . A old farmer I know will always go for the can instead of giving it a decent amount of heat 1st. Great video man.👍

[@stevencummings2395]

I started the tractor yesterday , david brown 990 it started no problem without the party gas with giving it plenty of heat . The old farmer has been using party gas on it everytime for atleast 10yr . so you were right in the video the old myth is a load of bollocks👍 thatl save him a fiver a month lol.

[@petercartlidge5853]

Very well said. Love the video

[@stuartbrazier2464]

Excellent well explained 👏

[@seanoliver4531]

Great honest knowledgeable video 👍👌

[@ryanj9859]

Well said. I've seen con rods come straight through the oil sump and he said ah maybe there is a problem 😂. 🤦

[@DOCTORDROTT]

Most of the poor starting machines I get called to is caused by poor fuel, water in the fuel because the trap is not drained at least once a week. And machines filled up from dirty cans or drums. I modified all the heaters on my I H Drotts. No starting issues any more

[@robbone1189]

Cracking video! 👍🏻😂

[@jasonbassett4967]

Brilliant video, singing from the same hymn sheet.

[@ginggur17]

I do love ya straight talking pal.

[@gunton21]

Well done LM. 👍👍👍👍

[@beakittelscherz5419]

OMG this Comment Section is pure GOLD for an swear word enthusiast like me!! love it. As english is not my first Language , I find it very entertaining whats user to express standpoints here. - "First Muppet "( Best nickname for Prime Minister /Chanceller ever) - "cant be arsed to fix the problem" (got great use for that!) - "starting fluid is a diagnostic tool, not a permanent solution" (amen brother) - "going miles offshore with a knackered engine and a can of ether..." (Sounds like a Stephen King Plot)

[@jackhume4532]

Good morning Lord Muck, now I totally agree with everything that you have said in your film about EITHER , however when I was working on the farm in the mid eighties we only ever used the either when the weather was really freezing cold and we always kept the engines well maintained with regular oil changes and clean fuel to keep them working all day and every day especially during the harvest time and if we had to do an oil change in the middle of harvest IT WAS DONE and we always made sure that the air filters were cleaned out as well.

[@LordMuck]

Which, if you watch the entire video is exactly what I've said...

[@chuckhenry5487]

Quality of ether is important as well! Nice vid, good info

[@LordMuck]

That's a very good point Chuck 👌🏼

[@jebsails2837]

The same ether myth exists on this side of the pond. Thanks for the effort to correct, although you may get more converts at time / last call. Thanks again. Narragansett Bay

[@henryellis154]

this is quality, you just say it how it is ,very norfolk and very right this is why i love norfolk you get these kinda top blokes

[@Olliegunns]

9:14 Somethings changed 😆 Cracked me up.

[@CarterPringle]

The edits are so damn good lol 😂

[@colinpullen9295]

A common sense video Muck well done

[@jamiesetchellakaJJ]

Hi kurt i found this video interesting thank you bro keep up with great videos

[@mwnciboo]

Great video...I'm now gonna be calling Ether "Cosby Poppers".

[@reecelennard622]

Great video 👍🏼 well said and hopefully just hopefully people would of learnt from this

[@stirlingbridgen7793]

Great video 👌proper made me laugh

[@andrewwyatt2542]

Good video mate here in Australia one of the ether products is called start ya bastard works bloody good 👍

[@peteallen4629]

Nowt like a good myth tò get in the way of the facts , brilliant vid as usual 👍

[@adriandrosdzowski7344]

I am a diesel engineer working on railway locomotives, I would never use easy start on any engine, unless I have to

[@LordMuck]

Exactly. Unless you have to 👍

[@paddy120]

Great video thanks for the info

[@SabretoothBarnacle]

Didn't read the comments from your last video but given what you said was mashed out by keyboard experts that was a good thing as it saves me from having a permanent facepalm🤦👍

[@jimaskew6784]

I know 2 old South Norfolk boys that really need to get to the Pub but had run out of petrol . All that had was a box load of Easy Start. Got there and back, 4 miles flat out on a Honda 90 step through. That old crunchy kept going for years. BEER BIKE..