My Diesel Heater Runs On This - Cheaper Than Diesel

[@trsfc1595]

I've been using kerosene for approximately 5 years, I also add a little 2 stroke oil low ash to each tank fill, helps lubricate the pump and slightly increases the heat output

[@humourless682]

Taxi drivers do exactly the same thing. Maybe not a good idea to admit to it on here though?

[@codprawn]

Really no need. My heater has run for 5000 hours just on kerosene. No problem with the pump. I opened it up to check the glow plug. Clean as a whistle!

[@trsfc1595]

@@codprawn Thanks for the info.

[@Handleyman]

No need to do that. Kerosene is actually a lubricant anyway.

[@howardosborne8647]

@@codprawn No surprises about clean combustion chamber while running kerosene as it is far lower in sulphur and burns less sooty than 35 second diesel or gas oil. I normally run 35 second gas oil but do also run kerosene sometimes and the lack of sooty carbon is very noticeable when running 28 second kerosene central heating oil.

[@robertp4767]

Been using heating oil for 6 months now and no problems at all 👍

[@stuartdavis8327]

Paraffin is kerosene....it has just been de-sulphurised so it can be burned safety indoors...that's why it's more expensive than heating oil.... aviation fuel is also kerosene but highly processed to ensure there is no moisture in it...the colour difference is purely dye for taxation purposes

[@afzaalkhan.m]

Great clarification

[@kimmer6]

I ran my diesel heater 10-12 hours a day for months on red USA untaxed diesel fuel. It quit suddenly altogether yesterday, the same model as yours. I noticed that there was a bit of dirty water in the tank bottom along with debris. Apparently just filling the tank or topping it off twice a day stirred up the debris enough to clog the pump. Fortunately, I bought 2 units and quickly swapped in the new one. But I added a small engine fuel filter between the tank and the pump. The heater sits in an area where it is difficult to see the fuel level. I added a 12 volt LED light near the fuel pump and the fuel level is now visible from 10 meters away. I painted the housing black to blend in a bit better. Keep up the good work!

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

The problem is that there is almost always water and contaminants in diesel. TYhe more you use, the closer you become to diaster as it builds up in your tank. Some things never change. A filter is the best solution for sure.

[@kevinjones3900]

I use a marine 30 ltr petrol tank with quick release fitting and a fuel gauge.

[@peterwilson5528]

Hi. I got one of these and only got three uses out of it before it gave E03 error. The glow plug went. Just my luck :( I bought a new glow plug from China. I thought it might take longer for the supplier to send one. The supplier is also sending one. I am hoping it gets here it gets it going again as winter is coming here fast in Southern Finland and I got this heater to help heat the off-grid country place. For me being British in Finland trying to get online information locally is pretty hard even though I can speak the lingo a bit. Great videos you are making by the way. The positive attitude and enthusiasm give us heater novices hope :)

[@98Blackbess]

I have a Clarke XR80 20.5kW Paraffin/Diesel Industrial Space Heater in my workshop and i started running that on Kerosene last year in preference to hard to find red diesel and it burns lovely. No smoke and the same heat at a much cheaper cost.

[@You-can-fix-it-yourself]

In New Hampshire, kerosene has hit $7.99 a gallon. ouch. Diesel is $5.39 a gallon. Thank you for putting up this video, folks need to know what works. Can you make a heat exchanger for the exhaust? I have a few ideas, but if more people make them, we can see what works best.

[@pookitherat]

I have identical model. It started blowing white smoke and it took me ages to figure the cause. The + & - wires are connected through a multi-plug and the connections were piss poor., so when the glow plug started glowing, it wasn't getting hot enough thanks to the connecting pins drawing current and heating up. I cut the + & - wires out of the multi-plug, soldered & heat shrunk them with better wire and better copper connectors. That was in January and it ran perfectly for months at 35 deg Celcius until the weather got warm. I just fired it up last week and last few nights I've had to shut it down after 20 minutes as the heat is incredible. Garage is 8m x 6m x 4m high. These things are great if you know the problems. I think the connections should always be checked. But I run min on diesel and a mis-fuel of petrol & diesel I attended. It just runs great.

[@got2kittys]

I had to replace all te plug connections and the fuse block too. Very cheap, now they dont " skip ".

[@Ridley2907]

Everyone is looking to save money wherever they can, and this experiment proves a considerable amount could be saved for users of these appliances. Well done Martin!

[@jimmytate7587]

here in the U.S. kerosenes is quite expensive. it does work well as a substitute for diesel. another substitute is used cooking oil, but it needs to be strained to remove any solids.

[@calman4766]

I don't think its viable at the moment, I am struggling to find a supplier near where I live in the UK. for less than £1.77 a ltr. that is more expensive than diesel, at my local supermarket is £1.60 ltr.

[@zonkanator]

I use red at a £1 a litre

[@kwazhims3lf]

Bought vevor vertical diesel burner 8kw.. moved the tank, put PSU in it's place.. Made board, mounted the factory tank to it, beside it another tank... 1 is for diesel, the other is for recip compressor waste oil / diesel mix 2 : 1 blend.. Startup is on diesel, once it's at temp it runs the blend... Before shutting down switch back to diesel so the lines clear and ready for next startup... Piped exhaust so that part of it runs through fan coil to syphon more heat and make the whole penny pinching operating more efficient... Works like a charm, very happy with it... What would make this whole thing even more better, is free/cheaper diesel... But I'm already making off like a bandit.. Barrels of FREE clean waste oil.. Recip compressors, screw compressors... I just do one pass filtering it and I'm golden... Good luck out there penny pinchers. Stay warm

[@jlsracing997]

Another thing to consider is you don't get as much heat out of kerosene.

[@TheGreaseySpoon]

Kerosene runs 100% fine, been running mine on it for 6 months. It has the same calorific value as diesel but burns cleaner.

[@icarus_ap]

I been using my heater most days in my workshop using kerosene since day one, and still no problem, I did mix in my used cooking oil when I change the oil in my deep-fat fryer

[@itsallfabrication]

Good one Martin. I've done loads of testing with these heaters and domestic heating oil (kerosene) is a good choice of fuel, it will lubricate the pump, and won't clog up the burn chamber unlike used engine oil. And I run my workshop heater on a 240v to 12v power supply too, and there is no issues with it.

[@itsallfabrication]

Forgot to add......Try not to go over 2 metres with the exhaust length, as the heater struggles with the increased back pressure at start up, resulting in failure to start.

[@retrorestore]

Thanks for the info

[@dr_jaymz]

@itsallfabrication this is 100pc correct, because it doesn't regulate it assumes airmass flow from only the fan speed so anything different will make it run rich and any richer than stock causes soot to build up. That is why they have an alpine mode which reducing fueling by a fixed 20pc. You can also lean it out by putting your fuel lower because the pumps are calibrated at 1m head, if you increase that, you get less fuel. This also applies to exhaust heat recovery. If you recover heat, you increase the density of the gas it has to push out, like an intercooler. Whether or not the effect is significant, I have no idea. They are best run lean if you can unless you want to dismantle it every 10 hours.

[@itsallfabrication]

@@dr_jaymz What James said.

[@patrickbodine1300]

The pumps are designed to be lubricated by the fuel, same as an automobile.

[@randr10]

I hooked mine up to an old car battery and I'm using the maintenance charger like what you'd use for a classic car to keep the battery topped off. I've only been using it for a couple days but it seems to do the job.

[@craigchamberlain]

I've lived in the UK for over 50 years and have never heard anyone call kerosene "house fuel". Maybe it's a regional thing but I've only ever heard it called kerosene or heating oil. I've just bought one of these diesel heaters and will be trying it out tomorrow with both diesel and kerosene, which is what we use to heat our home and would be very convenient if I could use that instead of diesel in my heater. Also, kerosene is a type of paraffin so it should be no surprise that it looks like paraffin.

[@chipperfluffy]

People in the US Call stuff whatever they want. It really doesn't make sense but it depends where we grew up

[@BlackJedi169]

Paraffin

[@emilee172]

to recover heat going out the door through the exhaust, I have a few sections of base board hot water heat pipes, 3/4 copper pipe with aluminum fins and that I added to the exhaust and was able to extract most of the wasted heat going out the door, be careful Not to add too many bends as in a 90 degree elbow, I use soft bends so not to create too much back pressure and stay with the max of 270 degree bends, but those old baseboard hot water heat pipes got back most of what would be wasted

[@fly1956]

Hi Martin, I have 3 of the 8kw diesel heaters and yes they can/do melt down. I was camping and my 3 year old pulled the power plug loose from my heater when it was running full bore. I got power hooked back up within about 15 seconds, but by that time it had melted the case and would still work but stinks like melted plastic. I have lost power while it is idleing and no problem, but loose power when it is cooking hard and it melts down. Mine smelled so bad I had to replace the case and it still smells very bad. I run the one in my shed on a 120V to 12V power converter but if you have a power outage you will lose your heater. Just my experience. To be safe I have heard of guys running them off a 12V car battery with a trickle charger hooked to the battery to top it off. That way you never loose 12V. I will try that when I get a few extra dollars for a battery and charger. I really love these heaters! I will also check the price of kerosene here in New York Mountains. Thanks for the video. Cheers!

[@fly1956]

These heaters REALLY NEED the cool down cycle before they shut off...

[@wrxs1781]

Good video, and in Canada we have three available products that can be used in a diesel heater, 1. home heating oil, which is colored diesel, 2.diesel fuel amber in color, 3. kerosene which is clear and burns hotter than the before mentioned, and is also jet fuel. In the winter I run a 50/50 diesel, kerosene mix, and straight diesel for fall and spring.

[@markrich3271]

I own multiple diesel trucks and heat my house with oil. Our home house oil in the northern usa is red dye kerosene . Red kero will run your diesel truck but will ruin your high pressure pump and injectors after time.

[@wrxs1781]

@@markrich3271 Good point, thanks for the reply.

[@markrich3271]

@wrxs1781 There allot of pre common rail folks that have mechanical pumps that can run anything in their tank, darn injectors are so much money today I would be in tears if I killed my hpfp and injectors .

[@philf5043]

I have just started using Kerosene after Red diesel became unavailable locally . I bought my Kerosene at the pump and heater ran very well for a couple of tank fills then shut down unexpectedly . I found that the kerosene is dirtier than diesel or red diesel and blocked the pump . I flushed the pump and cleaned the tank of the bro sludge and all is now ok . Be prepared to filter any Kerosene from the pump or fit a filter in line . They are cheap on line and mines on order . After three years of running on red diesel the heater was very clean inside the burn chamber with hardly any ash. Well impressed. In Kent the kerosene currently cost £1-29 a litre ! still expensive and i found that the heater uses Kerosene quicker than Red diesel . Good vids keep them coming.

[@STTC]

totally agree Martin, alot of so called experts talk nonsense about these pumps, mine has stopped abruptly hundreds of times mid burn with no wind down, no damage, no effect, great video.

[@retrorestore]

I know Steve, There are a lot of people who just repeat what they have read and that gives a false true.

[@oojimmyflip]

I spent 7 years recycling old veg oil to run my 1998 1.9 litre diesel car and learnt a lot about lubrication of a diesel fuel system, I often had to add 2 stroke oil in small quantities to aid the pump in the car, Kerosene will be less able to lubricate the pump as diesel would being a heavy oil, so it may well be in your interest to add a tiny amount say 10ml of 2 stroke oil to the bottles and shake it all up to mix it before pouring it into the tank, well done for getting it to run on a substitute fuel. Try turning the rubber mount for the pump upside down so the pump weight rests on the rubber mounting. it almost silenced my pump mounted to the back of the metal case. changing the fuel line for the nylon fuel line upgrade kit also helped . I think the idea that the ecu gets damaged if the heater shuts down without its cooling cycle has been prooved wrong with people testing it but what do you do in a power cut if dont have a power supply from a battery backed up by a charger, do you freeze? we are coming to that time soon that we were promised cycling power cuts across the UK have you cheacked your area code to see if you will be affected? here in Kettering we are going to be without power if the plan goes ahead on Wednesday mornings between middnight and 4am and for 6 hours on Sundays between midday and 6pm. Ive got a little 750watt 2 stroke genny that will run for 6 hours on 4 litres of petrol which will run the tv and a computer and the battery backup will run the diesel heater as the boiler power supply will be off if they go ahead with the plans. the code to search for your area cycling powercuts is on your elecy bills at the top of the page.

[@bigoldgrizzly]

on the other hand, pumps are dirt cheap and can be changed in under 5 minutes

[@oojimmyflip]

@@bigoldgrizzly yes but ebay postage can leave you cold for weeks🤣

[@patrickbodine1300]

Excellent video mate! I have been heating my house for 3 years with one of those heaters using "off-road diesel" (non-taxed red) without issue. Occasionally, it will fail to start initially but then it shuts off and properly restarts for the all night run. I am not usually a purchaser of Chinese made products, but this has been the exception and has, so far, turned out to be worthwhile.

[@JohnSnow-vf8jo]

If I tried to heat my house ( 3 bed semi ) with my 5KW diesel heater, I would have died of hypothermia, PDQ.

[@patrickbodine1300]

Alaska? South pole? Greenland? I must run mine on slow speed to keep from becoming toast. Oh, yes, I do live in south Mississippi. 😉

[@regd.2263]

Put the filter in the filler cap it will filter as you fill it up. kerosene is paraffin but paraffin is refined, and I remember paraffin being twelve & half pence (two shillings & sixpence) a gallon the early 1960's

[@Theyellowchild]

Just filled my house tank 1200lt at 73p /lt thanks for this I’ll get one for the conservatory now I know it runs on 28sec as I just need to siphon some out of my tank cheers mate

[@user-xb5zu6zu7j]

Agree, I use home heating oil (28 second oil) for a year now and it worksout excellent with chinese heaters.

[@kmoecub]

The people saying that it can't be run from an external power supply just don't know diddly squat about electricity. All the electronics care about is getting the appropriate DC voltage and being able to draw enough current.

[@Kb3164-t3z]

Been running a 50/50 mix of diesel and kerosene for years . Diesel to lube the pump because I was told they can seize on kerosene

[@john-em1jr]

Hi i use kerosene all the time on my 3 heaters and it works with no problem at all good luck with it do not recommend using old engine oil or vegetable oil as they carbon up very quickly

[@user-kn4it6zr9o]

Kero is about 20 bucks in nz. One liter bottle. Maybe it's scaled to suit these days

[@KevinHoey1]

I bought 25L of heating oil for £32. I've researched and can get a 500 Litres at 80p per litre. The plan is 3 x 45 gallon drums at £7 each and a hand pump. Less that half the price of road diesel. I've watched dozens of vids on these trying to run on waste oil concoctions and unless you have lots of time for the maintenance it's not worth the hassle. Mine is used to warm the house by helping the central heating. It's outside with just the hot air entering the house. Been running it about a month and very pleased with it.

[@oojimmyflip]

this is a similar setup to mine, I built a custom cupboard out of plywood and mounted the 2kw heater in the cupboard on the outside wall, it draws the air from our kitchen and blows hot air into the living room. the tank is mounted on the back wall in our back garden, with the pump 10 inches from the heater and it seems to work very well and its cheap to run at 2.0 Hz all day long. it keeps the gas bill down and at one point we were using £12 a day on gas just for the boiler and cooking now we use £5.00 a day with the diesel heater and the boiler running together most of the time the heat from the diesel heater over rides the thermostat on the boiler but at night we turn the diesel heater off so the boiler kicks in in the early hours, the boiler stat is set to 18 degrees C. the diesel heater heats the living room and kitchen to 20 degrees C during the daytime.

[@ambtax1]

Where is heating oil sold to the general public? I'm searching and searching and can't find it.

[@ianhamilton8272]

Local marina sells red diesel for £1.10 a litre, had to print off gov legislation to show I could buy for domestic heating though, they wouldn't let me buy it initially because they didn't have correct paperwork.

[@PhillsGarage]

Was thinking of getting one, but didn’t appreciate how loud the roar is! And the fuel pump clicking would drive me crazy!!! Great informative vid thanks.

[@svenlarsen4876]

Isolate fuel pump and you won't hear it as for the roar when that's ticking over you don't hardly know it's running. The main thing you will notice is the money saved 😂

[@leiferickson713]

Kerosene is 5.29 $ a gallon here in the USA. Off road Diesel is 3.65$ a gallon. I run 75% diesel to 25% kerosene. Mixed in a 20 gallon aluminum fuel tank.

[@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST]

That's the best plan right there because many people say that the kerosene does not lubricate the fuel pump enough like the diesel but with that mixture I'd say you're getting the best of both worlds and probably a nice clean combustion chamber as well.

[@keithnoneya]

Run the exhaust through a water radiator. with no water in it of course, and put the exhaust for the water heater outside. You'll increase the efficiency of the heater by another 100%. Thanks for the great information. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

That will not work for long. You need to let some of that heat go out the tailpipe to insure things do not clog up with soot/carbon. Diesel heaters are already so efficient that every hack I see on KZbin quickly fails. Keep on free-thinking though. Never give up...never surrender.

[@keithnoneya]

@@geraldhenrickson7472 You have a good point there, in that case I would make it like a out of large pipes on the wall with access points on the side whre it can be opened and brush inserted once a year, with a vacuum cleaner on the other side of the pipe. Problem solved.

[@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST]

There's no need to try to increase the efficiency of these things the thinking has already been done and they are already extremely efficient.

[@maxnmilly]

Thats all I have used for the last 3 months and runs well no issues.

[@coreybabcock2023]

I use a small filter before my 12 v 22 ml pump works very well been checking the filter no junk in if yet too

[@davekauffman8727]

Diesel fuel is kerosene with an amount of paraffin added to lubricate the injector pump and injectors. I just bought one of those heaters, and I plan to run kerosene in it. Thank you for taking one apart and explaining what all I can expect to find in mine. 🙂

[@Lordlindef]

Then you have to lube it whit oil ore something. Cos kerosene is not exaktly what you belive. I am captain and know all fuels

[@oojimmyflip]

yes we used to make diesel to run our free flight model aeroplanes when we were kids back in the 70s 40% ether. 20% castor oil for lube, and 40% paraffin it made 100ml of fuel. I suppose you could make more if you could find some ether that mkight be hard to find in the UK these days without a license to buy it, the more explosive the substance the more difficult it is to buy it.

[@Lordlindef]

Cerosine is pure parafin ur clowns

[@craigchamberlain]

Diesel is not kerosene with paraffin added. Kerosene is a type of paraffin but diesel is a different fractional distillate of crude oil. They are both extracted from crude oil but kerosene has a lower boiler point and so is extracted before diesel and is therefore a lighter oil. It's true that kerosene does not have the same lubricant qualities of diesel which is why it's not a good idea to run kerosene in a diesel engine.

[@philweed1603]

Love how the know-it-alls can’t even spell. Absolutely hilarious. Scroll up and look at these buffoons.

[@nicholaslloyd2829]

Hi I have been running my 8kw on 50/50 Kerosene and Red Der for 3 years now and it works great .Nick

[@daveprice6870]

Unfortunately we can’t buy Red Diesel any more! In Cambridgeshire anyway

[@trevorjenkins1976]

Noticed lately the Chinese deisel heater's have increased in price wished I'd purchased 2 when I bought my first. Thanks for the information very interesting, enjoyed your video's

[@BensWorkshop]

Round this part of Sussex it's called Kerosene at the pumps. It works well though when used in place of diesel in engines it lacks the lubrication an wears out the high pressure diesel injector pumps and injectors. Can't imagine it being an issue in the diesel heaters though as most of it is just moving and the pump isn't high pressure. I also use kerosene in Primus (and similar) stoves and blowlamps as well as Tilley lamps. In many parts of the world paraffin is called keroene. However what is sold in B&Q and the like is apparently a bit lighter and is also a bit lighter than what used to be sold as paraffin here 50 years ago, hence the price.

[@fraross6212]

Good to know it works in Primus stoves. I have 7 of differant makes and sizes and love tinkerin with them. 👍

[@BensWorkshop]

@@fraross6212 Well, there's lots of tinkering with blow lamps, Tilley lamps and stoves on my channel!

[@kb0guy]

I run a mixture of 65/35 diesel and soybean oil. Nice hot burn running in alpine mode.

[@F4Insight-uq6nt]

When it comes to things like this, being on good terms with your local chippy boss is a bonus.

[@dave9456]

Cooking oil

[@professionalidiots101]

Heating oil has been my go to alternative to paraffin in weed burners for years now, where as diesel was useless. I suspect you will probably go through more heating oil than diesel in this instance, but provided the injector remains capable this will be cheaper and a win, win in long term use 👍🏻

[@tonycamplin8607]

Domestic heating oil is perfectly fine to use, it doesn't need any added oil and burns much cleaner than diesel. I've never heard Domestic heating oil called kerosene, the oil suppliers definitely don't call it that, I've been using it for well over 60 years and there's only 5%VAT on it.

[@mrbigvanlife7130]

They work on used engine oil a treat and we pay a fortune for that so good to see it giving something back

[@gavinwilln7571]

Be careful when extending the exhaust, it is not like an engine. Small amount of back pressure can cause poor combustion. It is fan driven, and at a low pressure. Exhaust should be as short as possible and as straight as possible, are a good starting point. Think of a garden sprinkler, the longer hose you have the less water comes out of the sprinkler.😉

[@bernieoldham7580]

what would be the symptons of a poor combustion.i was going to extend exhaust to scavenage heat from it. thanks

[@patrickbodine1300]

I do not use a "muffler". Inmo, it is not needed. The sound is the same, with or without muffler.

[@robertallain8966]

the hose theory is only correct because the soft hose will flex and this causes reduced pressure / output . in your house you have copper or really hard plastic pipes that dont flex when pressurized and therefore deliver the same amount of water in a system whether its needed near or far , it will be the same pressure .

[@robbieburt4493]

So you're saying it won't work in cold weather

[@alanclark8837]

Good vid, the only problem with kerosene is lack of lubrication for the pump, it's lubrication properties are not as good as diesel, add a small amount of oil the the mix & should be Ok

[@retrorestore]

Good idea Alan

[@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST]

The best idea is to mix kerosene and diesel then you get the best of both worlds.

[@richardwright9563]

I've run my heater on parafin for 4 years now as it's ment to burn hotter and cleaner never had any sooting up problems still going strong

[@brianwallis4544]

Been running mine in my van for 2 years on Kerosene. Just had mu house tank filled up at 77p a litre. Great video Martin

[@retrorestore]

Nice 👍

[@robton007]

77p wth......who delivers that?

[@InteraliaTony]

@@robton007 The national average heating oil price is currently 82.9p per litre and last weekend, my local oil club price was 81.5 - but this is usually in minimum quantities of 500 litres. I expect readers would be interested where you can go buy just a few litres Martin? - Interesting videos though. Thank you.

[@janetbishop6031]

His diesel heater is clicking in the video. Doesn’t that sound drive you crazy in your van? How in the world could you sleep with that noise?

[@RebelsInc969]

I have used Tesco sunflower oil it worked fine & still works now 👍

[@cookiecook7042]

Hi Martin, on John Mck 47 a experienced guy on these who does multiple test on these heaters says kerosene ok but to put diesel through ocasionally as the pump relys on it for lubrication unlike kerosene, but if pumps are cheap I spose the cost you save in diesel would compensate for that.Enjoyed the video.👍

[@codprawn]

Mine had done 5000 hours on kerosene. No problem at all with the pump.

[@normangibson9907]

I've been running kerosene in my diesel heater for 2 years now no problems. If you hang the pump by a zip tie rather than being bolted to the unit it cuts down on the clicking.. to be honest after a while you don't even notice the clicking off them pump. In 2 years I've only had to replace the pump but easy to get and install. I had mines in a mobile home which was a perfect application for the heater and kept it warm even in winter. I now have it installed in my day van but it's a bit much for a small space but better than freezing lol

[@terencecoeart]

@Norman Gibson I live in a mobile home and wondered if you had yours sited inside and vented through the wall or in a covered box outside ?. Cheers.

[@normangibson9907]

@@terencecoeart I had mine under one of the seats and put the exhaust and air intake through the floor and it worked perfectly.

[@normangibson9907]

@@terencecoeart I also stored the battery and charger in the same space with the kerosene tank outside. If you think about it for a while and place\ space it out mock it up before you cut any holes you can pretty much do it without seeing any evidence of it. Just make sure if you can see underneath the mobile if there are any electrical cables water pipes or if you have a older model mobile home keep a close eye out for old gas pipes that fed the existing gas fire or hot water heater. Hope this helps and any other questions don't hesitate to ask. I've fitted a few now for different applications and I currently run one in the back of my van

[@normangibson9907]

I vented mine through the floor because it can't be seen and to save any danger of moisture in the wall because of the holes plus not entirely sure if there is anything in there that could burn or melt from exhaust heat , believe me that can get extremely hot

[@terencecoeart]

@@normangibson9907 Thank you very much for your help. The way you have set it up sounds good and gives me the answers I was looking for. Cheers.

[@grahamcliffe8672]

It is my understanding that Kerosene and paraffin are essentially the same, apart from when its sold as paraffin it has been filtered through a finer mesh to get more bits out. Also as a few people have mentioned it doesnt lubricate as well as diesel, so the pump may wear out sooner

[@pauldowninguk]

Good video! Shows alternatives do work. Red Diesel is £1.13 in Manchester. So 25lt is £28.25 etc. Diesel gives 7.5% more heat per litre. So no real reason to change to Kerosene unless Red Diesel isn't available.

[@paulb8186]

Where can you buy small quantities of red diesel from in Manchester? I'm in Bolton can't get small 20 30 litre quantities anywhere around here.

[@mancman7337]

Where in Manchester mate because that's cheap for red I was paying £1.40 a litre

[@pauldowninguk]

@@mancman7337 Portland Basin Ashton U Lyne. The canal boat bit at the back not the museum etc.

[@mancman7337]

@@pauldowninguk nice one Paul I know it well my cousin lives just up the road in denton

[@pauldowninguk]

Red Diesel gone up 2p a litre (£1.15 now) at Portland Basin. No much, but it was supposed to go down again this week.

[@MalteseMafia]

Might be worth mixing with some vegetable oil, aid lubrication, reduce costs also.

[@briananderson3801]

Use your old motor oil strain it first

[@andyfields3248]

In the US home heating oil is usually (but not always) number 1 diesel without the road tax added. Often has a red die so they know if you put it into a road vehicle. Anything design for #2 diesel will run fine on any home heating oil, coal or crude base doesn't matter. Also run well on jet fuel if you have a that. Theas are all basically the same thing. Number 1 fuels have most of the paraffin removed so it doesn't jell in cold weather and plug filters. Number 2 fuels have paraffin so have a slightly higher energy density, have to burn slightly more #1 to get the same energy/heat as #2. Anything designed for #2 will run on fine #1, but not necessarily the other way around. Like a car designed for low octane will burn high octane but a motor designed for high octane will knock on low octane.

[@Tonedog88]

Started using my diesel heater on kerosene, since I had 15 gallons left over and it was why I bought the heater to begin with. Still haven't started with the diesel yet--got about 5 gals of kero left, but imagine the diesel will work just as well since that's what it's called--a diesel heater! Kero it more expensive than diesel in my area of the US (West Virginia).

[@asciimation]

I've played with home made jet engines and used kerosene in the afterburner for one of those. If you don't ignite it properly you do get huge clouds of white smoke as it vapourises. It's how they make the white smoke trails behind some planes at airshows. These heaters are similar to small jet engines but aren't quite the same. I really should get one of these things to play with they are so cheap and there is so much info out there on them. Plus I have loads of used engine oil to get rid of!

[@Moonlightshadow-lq4fr]

If you have loads of engine oil it would be best to make a dedicated burner out of a vast range of things, from propane bottles to beer kegs. Oil in these diesel heaters is a no no for sure :)

[@winnytjar4873]

Chemtrails are sprayed in the air to bring about climate change.

[@MrPeekabo]

great thank you,I use similar in my lorry,and another one for heating my workshop.A great deal of heat is emitted from the exhaust pipe.I extended my exhaust pipe so I could use this heat which would have normally expelled to the outside.My exhaust pipe is 15 ft.long,If you placed your hand on the end of the pipe,its only slightly warm,the rest of heat is in my workshop,try it

[@andrewfoster9686]

great video fella. Ive got mine set up indoors. originally installed in the loft but it wasnt giving the heat to the house due to hot air rising. Changed it to under the stairs and its blowing warm air all round the hall and upstairs. Re the noisy pump, ive suspended mine on cable ties so the sound doesnt resonate through any structure and its quiet as a mouse. stay safe and keep the vids coming 👍

[@retrorestore]

Nice one

[@gordonmitchell729]

Excellent thanks. Great to actually see it working so well.

[@Equiluxe1]

Those heaters are designed to run on everything from kerosene/paraffin to diesel or petrol. Kerosene is in the same family group as paraffin which is just highly refined kerosene. Jet fuel is also kerosene which has had more water removed so that it wont freeze.

[@dr_jaymz]

They don't really run on petrol, it burns too slow which ends up burning in the exhaust. When people mix motor oil and petrol, the volatiles in the petrol burn, leaving the motor oil which gets blown downstream until it ignites with flames out of the exhaust. It's fractional distillation in reverse if you will. For anything that isn't diesel ideally you need to modify the burn chamber.

[@MakeDoAndMend1]

Petrol is a no no as it dissolves seals in pump. Also petrol needs compression of air fuel mix and spark. None of these are in Diesel heaters.

[@Lordlindef]

Jet fuel is parafin. And a litle diesel fuel. Dont make People belive your mistakes. I have bean a mecanik for years and have lisens for flights. So I know all fuels. Kerosine have to use oil ore anything for lube if you want it to last. Best is parafin ore diesel fuel for this burners i have bean using for years. But if you fine tune it. You can do much more. Secret menu code 1688. Put Hz at low 1.2 and 3.6hz at topp. Then you get same heat. Much lover fuel consume. And you can mix diesel ore parafin whit 20 25% used motor oil ore hydrolikk oil. Best mix is used and sealded vegy Oil. Then mix can go 50 50. Just an heads up dont to make People belive vrong info. Try that settings and you will get a better life. And very best is whit that settings you never clogs up burners. Never ever. Burns to clean to clogs up. And factories settings is crazy way of. Pumping fuel in but makes you clogs up for you and others shud buy more of them. And have bean burning 24/7 for over 3 years now whit no problem. Same heat lower cost. And never any smoke for carbone instrument in exsos. Burns total clean

[@welditmick]

Petrol is a big NO

[@Equiluxe1]

@@welditmick eberspacher cab heaters will run on petrol it is on their website, also in the instructions of the one I have in my vehicle.

[@malcolmyoung7866]

Martin, once again I am about a year behind you in the ‘man cave comfort stuff’ Bit colder up here on average. I bought the same heater as you’ve about 5 months ago now just starting to get it up and running. I have stuck some diesel in mine for now. Will be buying 5 gallon drums of Kero when I get it going. Need it for my Vermicomposting worms during the coldest days, and also for me when I decide to fix my Freelander (again) Cheers!

[@retrorestore]

Thanks for sharing!

[@agentp6621]

Kerosene in the US is what I believe you call paraffin. We have heating oil (typically along the east coast around New England). That’s what this appears to be. Kerosene used to be dirt cheap but has jumped up to something stupid like $15-20 for a half gallon (close to 2 litres). For awhile there the pound was about $2. But last I saw it was around $1.30 per pound. Either way it still stupid expensive for kerosene. My cousin works a fuel truck operator for aircraft. Jet fuel is mostly kerosene. I’ve asked if I could buy some from him but he said he can’t. Apparently people ask for it frequently for sale on the side. Company policy won’t allow it. I didn’t bother asking the price but I’d feel pretty confident that it would be something close to $5-10 a gallon (4 litre). At my job I work as an aircraft mechanic. Sometimes we have to drain the fuel cells. I haven’t come up with a method for fuel storage. But it gets tossed as waste (hazmat). We tossed 2-3 gallons about two weeks ago. I need to buy the heater first I guess. Then the fuel storage. Then I’d be doing well.

[@firstlight05]

THANK YOU MARTIN FOR ANOTHER REALLY HELPFUL VIDEO

[@davestatham812]

Great stuff that heater really does work well, and even cheaper now, great video Martin, 👍🏻❤

[@1supertec]

I do agree with what you're saying about the position of the pickup pipe but I would just stick a filter in as it is just best practice for such a device, also kerosene is a much higher energy value so I would be careful running this at full power as it will get much hotter than its designed to 👍

[@Yahatacooky]

Hi, Please forgive my ignorance but is paraffin the same as kerosene?

[@1supertec]

@@Yahatacooky no paraffin is in the same hydrocarbon group but is typically more refined.

[@robertallain8966]

doesnt matter about the heat output by kerosene as these are designed to run on gasoline as well . tit for tat lol..

[@1supertec]

@@robertallain8966 Oh I guess it's should be no problem then 👍

[@knobon]

I have always use Kerosene on my diesel heater here in the UK, but never heard it referred as "house oil", £1.09 ltr as opposed £1.50 for red diesel

[@chrislewis1812]

It's just called heating oil

[@Pugwash.]

We're without gas mains here, so have an outside tank for heating oil. The invoices do say kerosene.

[@peter7582]

Where I live there is no gas mains, so every house has a tank of heating oil in the garden. It's also known as kerosene

[@Roger-hq1yt]

Central heating oil

[@mikesgarage394]

Kerosene is k-1, most refined K-2 ad house heating oil - smokes a little more.

[@sibfishingadventuresuk1558]

I've had mine 5 years ran it on engine oil mixed with a range of different oils including gearbox oil, old premix.. smokes on start up but runs perfectly

[@Crypto-stacker4]

Keep these videos coming your killing it

[@martinmilligan4521]

Using one to heat my whole house for 3 years , tried diesel, kerosene and oil/diesel mix , all work

[@wesKEVQJ]

I just got one of these to heat a porch area that the furnace can't heat. I'm putting it outside in a tool box and ducting the air to the room through the window. I've been looking at used egr coolers for a cheap way to heat antifreeze with the exhaust and pump it into a small radiator in the room. It looks like you can get another 1000 watts of heat. I plan on putting one in a camper trailer eventually but I think in that case I am going to get a 2 meter baseboard heater (the kind for a boiler) and pipe the exhaust through that before letting it go outside, I think as long as it slopes down it should be okay. Good to know it runs on kerosene. I imagine you could run it on lard as long as it was kept warm enough to be a liquid. The instructions on mine says it will run on petrol or diesel but I am sketchy about the petrol.

[@BernardSamson-hf6fc]

I run my exhaust through an old House radiator. Takes a while to fully warm up (it is 6 feet by two and a half feet) but works great. Trying to find places to buy Kerosene is hard, ebay sells it at £1.80 a litre, so Diesel at £1.35 much cheaper.

[@theresnobodyhere5778]

ted diesel was at £1,25 a ltr last month and i see at petrol station diesel has come down about 10p lately so red diesel will be cheaper ,i used to tun my old diesel mondeo on used veg oil with a fifty fifty mix of diesel run great also the used veg i got free from local chippie 25 ltr drum every week ,only pain was filtering it out all the burn batter and chips used paint filter then mixed the diesel to thin it and filtered it once thin made quite a mess with spillage over the shed floor but the saving on fuel going to work 100+ miles everyday round trip was worth the effort

[@retrorestore]

Nice one.

I use central heating oil as it seems to do just fine, heated my 8x12 greenhouse for the last two years now. Steady 16 c no problem at all and not any carbon to speak of.

[@boogie11188]

I'm just looking at getting one of these heaters for my garage/workshop. Heating oil, kerosene and paraffin its all pretty much the same thing. my house is heated by oil fired boiler, and I normally get 500litres of heating oil for around £300.00 which works out about 60p per litre. so I fully intend to syphon a little from my oil tank to run the heater, cheap as chips !

[@wazza33racer]

Kerosene, also known as Jet-A1 is preferred in jet turbines for the simple reason it burns cleaner. Some jet turbines in helicopters and light aircraft can use diesel......but it means a lot more frequent maintenance (soot fouling) and reduced output. When the US Navy moved from bunker fuel to jet fuel in their ship boilers, it dramatically cut maintenance to remove soot build up.

[@finndomegan5213]

The U.S. military call it JP8 as far as I recall. They run all of their diesel wheeled vehicles, tracks, helicopters, jet aircraft and smaller marine craft on it for logistical reasons. Certain civilian brands of diesel cars would mess up their fuel pumps on it though as it didn't have the same lubricating properties.

[@benrandomly2016]

I'm in south eastern US. I use #2 heating oil, $4.98US, in my Chinese diesel heaters. It's not the same as kerosene. It's also a lot more expensive than standard auto diesel, $3.68US, but not as expensive as kerosene, $6.89US. I am only running this because my mother had her house converted from an oil furnace to a modern HVAC system. She gave me the heating oil (150-175 gallons US) to haul away the old system and tank. I would have done it for her anyway. I have two heaters set up in an old 1967 12ft x 60ft mobile home. The #2 heating oil burns very clean compared to diesel. I have not tried kerosene, to expensive. Once I run out of #2 heating oil, I will re-tune my heaters for auto diesel. The factory tune was great for the #2 heating oil, but a bit to rich for auto diesel that I used for first start up and test run. We do have cheaper off road diesel, but it's becoming very hard to find outside of construction companies that have a fuel delivery set up byway of a semi truck. I hope this info is helpful to someone somewhere.

[@grandadsfishingboat7455]

My understanding is parrafin and kerosene are the same thing? And kero will burn 100% cleaner than diesel, its just “drier” and has no lubricating properties so adding a little clean oil will sort this out. Kerosene is the same as the avtur used in jet turbines

[@retrorestore]

Big difference in price where I live

[@grandadsfishingboat7455]

Kerosene is called heating oil around here up north and is 80p a litre in 500ltr tankfuls we use it in our aga. The local garage sells it from the pump at 115.9 a ltr in any amount. The little bottles of paraffin have always been a rip off matey I dont know who would buy the stuff its about a tenner a bottle up here …enjoy the channel keep it up Regards Stuart Bell.👍

[@retrorestore]

@@grandadsfishingboat7455 Cheers Stuart.

[@paulb8186]

Hi Martin just wondering if putting the pump into something and then spraying filler foam into it to surround the pump would that quieten the ticking? Just an idea.👍

[@retrorestore]

That's my thought Paul.

[@mathy210]

You can buy silent pumps as an upgrade the original ones can be bit noisy

[@tonylam-u1t]

In N. America, kerosene cost about 4 times that of diesel , unless you can get some jet A from the airport which is similar to kerosene. The two fuel are close relatives. Aircraft diesel engines run on Jet A.

[@frankmayer139]

Heating oil, or house oil is very much the same as diesel. I've heard of truck drivers filling their tanks with it. It may even be the same thing. Kerosene is actually more refined than diesel. Jet fuel is very much like kerosene and can also be used.

[@reiner0609]

At least here in Germany the only big difference between Diesel and house fuel is the tax rate. As house fuel is taxed much lower, it is colored here to allow the tax authorities easy checking of vehicles if they think the owner is driving with cheap house fuel. It can also be used in diesel generators - for example to provide the needed electricity for the oil heating during a power outage.

[@PeterJavea]

Here in Belgium too... This winter our heating fuel was €1.1/L delivered. I am super happy with my Vevor all in one heater The fact that they are directly heating air has surprised me how efficient an oil burner can be. The classic central heating work indirectly. It has to heat water, then its pumped through cold walls up to our radiators, etc. Automatic? Yes Convenient? Yes Efficient? Not really...

[@got2kittys]

In the U.S. the dyed fuel can be used for anything that is for off-road uses. Farms, heavy equipment, heaters ect. The issue is the highway tax added to vehicle fuels. It will color your engine internally, so it's "marked" if you use untaxed fuel.

[@alanwilkinson5152]

Might be a good idea to use a little oil in the kerosene to lubricate the pump Alan Northern Ireland 👍

[@retrorestore]

Great point!

[@neilfoster814]

Heating Kerosene (C2 grade) doesn't need oil added to it. C1 Kerosene which you get from DIY stores for greenhouse heaters, Tilley lamps etc DOES need oil added to the ratio of 1:5000.

[@modzzjust4u]

@@neilfoster814 maybe not for kerosene burners, but these are meant to run on diesel so oil would be advised.

[@modzzjust4u]

I use 85% kerosene 15% engine oil (for legal reasons unused of course)

[@davywatt9367]

Defo oil req spot on buddy

[@matthews919]

Got one in my shed , great bits of kit 👍🏻

[@mikestickersm3mxb279]

Martin we had a power cut and it could not cool down, i got error code E-03 when I turned it back on, this was the glow plug error. Got a new glow plug and all worked. So a power cut took out the glow plug. The heater was brand new.

[@andrewallen9993]

My 1964 Mercedes W110 200d is perfectly happy running on kerosene/ heating oil mixed with a bit of TF :) MUCH cheaper than diesel.

[@tommyhanlon8012]

Hi MB, there's more heat energy from kerosene. It will also burn cleaner but you may need to adjust the fuel/air ratio if possible ? But it's more abrasive than diesel, so can be harder on pump and jet.

[@pauldowninguk]

Kerosene contains less energy (measured in British Thermal Units or BTUs) than diesel fuel. Kerosene has an average BTU content of approximately 133,500 per gallon and diesel fuel has an average BTU content of approximately 139,500 per gallon. Does burn cleaner though.

[@tommyhanlon8012]

@@pauldowninguk I was led to believe otherwise by a heating engineer, perhaps my memory is playing tricks. That's certainly not unknown to happen 🙄

[@pauldowninguk]

@@tommyhanlon8012 LOL! Same here but i just googled it. Kerosene is better for heating as it handles the cold better. Diesel can wax up.

[@tommyhanlon8012]

@@pauldowninguk I just wonder is there adjustment on those small diesel heaters ? I know on a domestic oil burner the air damper plate needs to be reset when changing from diesel to kero to get the most efficient burn.

[@georgedeaney7270]

The pump lube thing is a myth. 28 sec oil is not more abrasive. If kero was abrasive, how long do you think a central heating pump would last?. And there is no jet as the piston pump pushes a metered amount of fuel through a 2mm ish hole.

[@TONYJUD57]

Screwing the filler cap on fuel tank will create avacuum and possibly cause shutdown , Mine stopped and this is why, no breather on tank. so i back off the cap half a turn to allow air in, Good stuff, love the posts.

[@retrorestore]

There's a vent hole in the cap Antony.

[@TONYJUD57]

@@retrorestore Clearly mine is not working then HMMMM, Need to look at it, It actually pulled the sides of the tank in as it used the fuel, Tanks for your reply.

[@RGD-Audio-Repairs]

I get red diesel for my diesel heater and diesel generator.. at £1.08 per litre, from my local farm suppliers... Dont need proof of owning machinery either.. Just walk in with 25L barrels and pump as much as you need :) Heating oil is very common where i am (out in the sticks).. and its not cheap at all.. Fundamentally its cheaper pre Litre.. But there is usually a minimum amount order... Around here, Its minimum of 100L.. but they come and pump it straight into the big tank in your garden.

[@arrans1987]

£1.52 for red diesel at filling station near me. Think the guy is having a laugh

[@1D10CRACY]

I have been running mine on Kerosene for a few years and have had no issues so far. I feel it burns cleaner, but here in the states kerosene can be more expensive than diesel.

[@Leroy100]

in wisconsin i bought 1 gallon jug. For $15.00!

[@malcytull]

Good video, very interesting, thank you. My home is oil fired & it's always been called heating oil never house fuel. Thanks for the links.

[@tinkeringtaylor3053]

Good video Martin, you never know how things work till you try it and see what happens, I've just a little log stove in my workshop to boil the kettle 😀

[@steviey9804]

I've been running kerosene for a couple of months now because it's cheaper to buy, I use Nolan fuels at Banbury they're very helpful and sell the 25ltr containers if you don't have one. It's very smokey on start up and doesn't give as much heat but it's much cheaper, I had to extend my exhaust a little as its a bit smellier when running

[@sm7091bs]

I did it very simple to ours. Use a car radiator hose. I am into the automotive sector. So i could get one what perfectly fits around the pump. Only the connector part could not fit. Put at the other site whats is free another thick rubber hose into the bigger one so that a lot of the pump is covered with rubber. Big difference according old situation. You can hear it ofcourse but a huge difference than before and at a very comfy level. Think simpel……

[@willardlentz3044]

Kerosene is just a highly refined diesel fuel. Less oil less lubricity. We use it to keep diesel from gelling in out truck fuel tank along with anti gel additive PS less BTU and less soot

[@johnpalmer5131]

This Chinese copies of the the German Wabasto heat heaters are designed (sorta of) to run diesel. The issue with diesel (other than farm/colored) diesel is that you are are paying road tax which should make it more expensive. However, due to supply chain issues this may not be the case. Kerosine is a good alternative if the cost is OK.

[@rickes8215]

I have three of these in Canada they work well in my cabin. When it's too cold like more than -20 Celsius I used my wood pellet stove. I'll check out the price of home heating fuel.

[@lnwolf41]

Technically diesel, kerosene, fuel oil(U.S.), are almost the same, so they should give no problems. Also using used vegetable oil, that is processed into biodiesel would also work.

[@LyonhartZ2]

Also, maybe WVO (Waste Vegetable Oil)

[@1FishinAddict]

in the States, Kerosene1/Parafin is more expensive than regular diesel. But waste oil mixed in small amount can be burnt w/o much carbon build up if run on highest setting.

[@ryane.7894]

In the US diesel is way cheaper than kerosene. Heating oil is different still. Regardless I mix kerosene with my diesel (25%-75%) so it doesn’t gel during our Alaskan winters. Cheers!