Can Highway Building Be Green? (Green Cities DLC) | Ultimate Beginners Guide to Cities Skylines #14

[@Jimulacrum]

24:39: "I keep hitting that budget button." It's because, deep down, you know you need to raise your high-density taxes to 12%.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Some day... Someday I'm actually going to remember that

[@junkyardblaze189]

Perfect timing. I love watching city planner plays before I go to sleep so I can relax and be at peace. Our Mantra “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good”.

[@WinWall3227]

so you are from australia?

[@xremming]

Perfect timing with my food again! I love watching these while eating.

[@meady50]

@@WinWall3227 either that or somewhere in europe most likely

[@luciferandassociates9255]

Good night

[@junkyardblaze189]

@@WinWall3227 no I’m in the us, im just nocturnal

[@ash36230]

5:35 "Some of these blocks might trigger some folks" Meanwhile me, a European, making a wriggly road because that's how they are over here:

[@MarinoMoons]

14:44 I think double decker or articulated buses are coming with the airport DLC or in a content creator pack, that you could implement in the future!

[@thesherbet]

looks like both, theres double deckers in the Airports DLC and articulated and London Routemasters in the vehicles CCP releasing at the same time. Long time coming!

[@spatrompete2601]

Yes finally I was waiting so long for it

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Day one! I was thinking about it as I looked at the routes, haha!

[@spatrompete2601]

@@CityPlannerPlays you would love to see a rapid bus system a street for bus only like a tram :-) should be very successful with the new stuff coming up :-)

[@gdrriley420]

the annoying thing is both should already exist for each bus type (bio, normal, trolley). every transit vehicle should have at least 3 length options to allow you to fine tune riders vs vehicles. the paid creator packs should just be custom skins of existing types.

[@thebestspork]

I think the number plate restrictions are Paris, not London. London has a congestion charge zone covering most of the central area plus an inner Ultra Low Emissions Zone within that. You can drive through it, but you have to pay a hefty surcharge to do so.

[@humphreychannel582]

Yup was coming to say this except, congestion zone isn’t as big as the metropolitan area. More just mostly the central zones. I live in zone 1 but outside the congestion charge zone.

[@thebestspork]

@@humphreychannel582 fixed - thanks

[@repliedfob4165]

Also Mexico City

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Oh yeah - that's it! Thank you!!

[@chrisharrison9403]

I spent sometime living in the Netherlands and some cities like Rotterdam have restrictions on certain vehicles from being able to enter the city based on age and fuel. I can't remember the specifics but I think, for example, diesels built in the early 2000's and prior aren't allowed into Rotterdam.

[@p75369]

Even for safety, the railroad would never do that, for realism, you'd have to raise a couple of miles of track in each direction to ensure a shallow grade is maintained. Trains do no like slopes. Check out the 11foot8, it's a particular low railway bridge that regularly opens lorries like a can opener. It was only in 2019 that the railway finaly did work to raise the bridge... 8 inches, still 1 foot 8 short of being in spec, because raising it to modern specification height would entail raising too much track in each direction to be cost effective. Tacking a rail from ground level to 14ft in the air just isn't going to happen.

[@tritiumH3]

I love to use the Lungs of the City deep downtown in the middle of a lot of tall residential buildings. I love the idea of looking out of an apartment window and just seeing lush greenery at eye level! And the treetops look great mixed amongst the rooftops.

[@degroation17]

I just finished binge-watching this series yesterday, so this was perfect timing. I am new to Cities Skylines and your content is extremely helpful and fun to watch. Keep up the good work, Phil :)

[@denniskunze1661]

You can also use the polixy "oldtown" so that only people who live there and delivery for the stores are allowed to drive there so tourists have to use public transport. Just in case the public transport is breaking down when everyone has to use it.

[@DrazticMeasures4]

It cracks me up you just crammed a highway through the park that’s entire existence is an antithesis to highways

[@OscarBorrem]

I feel like the Combustion Engine ban could be cheesed IMMENSELY in order to increase public ridership by a TON🤔...

[@ben0329]

If you place it as a city wide policy but then do not encourage electric vehicle use that might force everyone onto public transit

[@franimus662]

That or MoveTheMouse's favorite Old Town policy

[@xuanwu1367]

Suggestion, a bridge across the bay but done like the Macau bridge in Hong Kong I think

[@michielvandersijs6257]

I think you need to check if you still need 60 busses for the Meadow district line now that you got a highway and removed the combustion engine ban on the collector leading into the district. It might be causing some of the congestion in the leisure district.

[@shubidfq7697]

Top tip,. if you need to bring a road back to ground level, press the 'home' button :)

[@noemierollindedebeaumont1130]

Where/what is this button ? I would like to use it but keyboard shortcuts are hard to know/find in this game !

[@shubidfq7697]

@@noemierollindedebeaumont1130 on the keyboard, second to the right of backspace :)

[@rptbr]

You'd probably expect to see the Big Rock Industrial Park to be shut down and the highway to be connected with the existing highway interchange infrastructure there. Then with the "dead land" between highway and rail (the space with the new interchange from downtown) a new industrial park with a bigger better cargo train connection as compensation. A large green belt of trees, parks and bike paths to separate that from the city/new residential green area that was created at the beginning of the video.

[@Erik-pt2yw]

13:00 (timing to see situation )I guess if you add a bus or a tram lane that duplicates metro line the congestion you made at metro could reduse. Maybe not duplicate but complements metro, I mean people from left-up have got to metro first then go to right-up, if you were to make an straight connection between them it should have help. You already have a train route but trains are less flexible and have same problem - you have limited stop count. 14:50 Maybe a dedicated lane (or a whole system ) helps?

[@Namaikhan]

A shame you can't export that soil to Verde Beach 😂 Oh well, Airports will come soon enough!

[@superdude0977]

I love that the fix for the traffic situation was to essentially just ban traffic.

[@jakepotter4]

I think you keep accidentally hitting your budget tab to remind you to up your taxes for high density properties :)

[@hitsugaya111]

11:10 in London there's also a "congestion charge" where going into greater London/centre there's a tax for petrol/diesel cars 14:50 that many people on a line with low capacity should merit a change to something with higher capacity? Tram/metro?

[@LeeAndrewVideos]

My first DLC was the Green City one, I love the idea of eco everything, the timing with this series is amazing!

[@xuanwu1367]

For the buss problem would a multi buss interchange work using buss only roads etc. also a buss only highway to get around the city, an example is the t-way in Australia, NSW, Parramatta

[@pokergeniusordonkey6517]

Cool. You were thinking of a new collector couplet. I think the new highway exit has decided where they go. I'm still hoping for an expansion of the blimp line, because the blimps are funny.

[@woltews]

why not just keep the highway elevated a bit longer to avoid all the craziness , yes its expensive but it saves the park , riding stables, rail , and all the pumping issues that come with having a road in hole in the ground in the real world .Keeping the highway elevated would also make it much easier for pedestrians to cross .

[@guilhermepanserini6462]

Phil, why don't you build a bridge over the bay to make a secondary connection paralel to the new highway?

[@NoMercy8008]

Great video, thanks a ton! I would call myself a C:S "veteran", playing the game since launch, but i still hugely enjoy and learn new things from this series, much much appreciated! Your videos in general are really really awesome, thanks a ton for investing all the time and passion! I have a question about Interlining, already tried googling it to no avail, so I hope it is ok to ask it here. An answer from you (or anyone else) would be much appreciated :) It obviously has a couple of benefits, like being convenient for the passengers and possibly for the drivers and makes better use of time and resources. But I wonder why the signage changes (eg. bus 15 becomes bus 16, as Phil explained) instead of it all just being one larger route? What is the benefit of the routes being split into two that way? Is it just for transparency and legibility or are there other reasons?

[@danielwarren7110]

having watched this after watching your Airport DLC video wonder how many people will use the airport zoning to level the terrain for setting up Motorways and then remove the zoning. 53:23 do not know if you loaded a save game or not, but the end of the motorway is disconnected from your industrial zone, so all your industrial traffic which would have just jumped on the new highway is now being forced to go to the small interchange you built further into the city.

[@BrotherSkodidi]

4:40 Gridded-ness? Grid-hood? Griddity? Grid-did-ity? Grid-dom?Grodded-ness? (if we're going for our Germanic roots of ablaut -- think drink drank drunk)

[@Styrestian]

About train tunnels, why do you not use slope tool and make the railway have a more natural slope before the tunnel entrance? i really hoped this highway was a tunnel.. Such a huge mountain is perfect for tunnel. The rest of the highway looks awesome sunken. 😃 About buses, if you have more of them to different neighbourhoods you really dont need so many. With only one line its going to be chaos. I really loving this series 😻

[@nathanwaldron4259]

At 52:00 you should have just teed the highway directly into the collector if you didn’t want to build an interchange instead of transforming the highway into a collector

[@edwardmiessner6502]

Better yet to put a trumpet interchange like the one at the end of Interstate 110 at Highway 90 in Biloxi, MS

[@p75369]

Every time I see someone trying to make neat roads in vanilla, I am reminded that it will be a cold day in hell before I play without mods. It shouldn't be that awkward to build a neat road network.

[@melty4204]

If I lived in a city that greenlit the building of an arterial, two train lines, and a major highway right up against the cities only nature reserve just so the rich people living in a neighborhood built in a ring around an accent historical sight with a casino built on top of a natural beach could have "better connectivity" and spun it as being "green" because it cuts down on idling I think I would have to consider becoming an eco-terrorist.

[@BobbyHoskins1016]

man! i'd never heard that quote in my life "don't let perfect be the enemy of good" as soon as you said it i was like WOaaah! that was powerful.... thats my whole life in a nutshell

[@iangoodsell]

It’s like “with great power comes great responsibility”. Phil is the Peter Parker of City Planners 😊

[@ThePaulineIndex]

I don't play the game a whole lot so I'm not sure if this has any unintended side effects but using zoning adjuster I reserve right-of-way by increasing the zoning setback in the zoning adjuster tool. Obviously it's more cumbersome than a real world implementation so I generally only do it on roads I foresee having to upgrade later or being likely at least. But I found it's a nice enough solution with the limited tools that we have.

[@dragade101]

It kind of works this way. Where I am, you are seeing more EV drivers buying cars just to ride in the carpool lane that permits EVs that are not carpool (you have to pay extra than just buying an EV but this grants you a 4th lane of the freeway to use). Absolutely state policies can change how people drive. Imagine if you could get 75% off from a train pass if you only put in a minimal bit of driving annually (that you are not commuting by car but rather using the train) (I say 75% because the cost of train rides in the usa is so high compared to countries that focus on mass transit as the *only* form of intercity transit)

[@austinswanson]

“The LA highway system is unfinished” Its always baffled me how the 710 ends, but 5 miles north of that ending there’s a mile long 710 stub where it was supposed to connect to the 210. Without that connection, a commute takes like 20 minutes longer. Or like how the 2, which is really Santa Monica Blvd, just kinda just skips a couple streets… and at one point shares a portion of the 101 to connect the road part of the 2 to the freeway part of the 2. They seriously just said “uhh… we’ll just make the 2 hop on the 101 for a little”. But we still have the 110 (north of the 5)… the first freeway ever built, and by far the most fun and coolest to drive. When they built it, they thought that drivers would get tired and fall asleep on long stretches of road, so they purposely built it extremely curvy to keep people alert. Also, most of the on-ramps are stop signs onto a 65 mph road with no dedicated lane to merge into. Scary, but super fun and smooth.

[@parkmannate4154]

Walking down a hilly road this morning and I see the moved dirt to fill a build pad and thanks to you I think Real Life bumpy & lumpy

[@ben0329]

It was incredible to see how dramatic the combustion engine ban was. Definitely potential to force a lot of people onto public transit if used strategically

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Absolutely! I might have a video up my sleeve....

[@ben0329]

@@CityPlannerPlays it would be very fitting to name any zone that is used as Cheesemans Park

[@dragade101]

On Interlining: what do you call it when you have a route that used to be one number (say a long bus route) and then the transit agency cuts the route into two so you now have routes 51 and 52 rather than just calling it route 50? Then customers are forced to get off between 51 and 52 and make the transfer to the next bus (while paying again, which kind of doubles the revenue from this route). This feels like peak usa policies (breaking down the already bad service while not increasing service or lowering the ticket price to offset the requirement to pay twice).

[@blujitsu2180]

Up until the roundabout went in on top of that hill, I think that could have been a reasonable place for a tunnel straight through instead. The slope is still pretty dramatic, even with the grading - plus, the land on top of that hill could be quite desirable. It would also really reduce the presence of that highway.

[@Fetch26291]

Phil seems to have a quirk when it comes to tunnels, even when they would make things easier, such as going under/through a mountain. I'm from Massachusetts, where we know the differences of having highway going through city and having highway going under the city.

[@lexfordplaysgames]

Just finished binging these, and I've learned a LOT, but honestly one of the biggest ones is probably just how to properly utilize road guidelines when making connections. It's the little things.

[@xremming]

I feel the highway would make sense more as a national highway (or whatever the two-way highway is called) but I guess the DLC that includes it isn't yet included in this series. 🤔

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Completely agree and you're right - that would be a good option.

[@moggetunleashed]

I've really come to enjoy the fact that you pronounce "Tutoria" like "trattoria." You should get some Italian restaurants in here!

[@adept5500]

Since you were buying that new square anyway, I was surprised you stayed close to the collector instead of going up the map edge (and under the mountain) to open up more land. Still a nice tutorial video!

[@exiron0202]

Wow, I had a totally incorrect idea of what interlining is. Your'e totally correct - it's when a vehicle from one line hops to another. I thought it was when two or more lines serve the same stations for a length, like how the MARTA Red and Gold lines in Atlanta serve the same North-South corridor before splitting apart in the north side of town (and similarly, the blue and green lines serve a common east-west line before splitting). Or how the Orange, Blue, and Silver lines in Washington "interline" through an east-west mainline through the city, before splitting in the outer parts of the city. Does anyone know if there's a real name for things feature of transit system? It's super common, especially in light rail systems (think PDX or DEN), so I fell liken there should be a proper name!

[@robertsimpson9010]

Building a city is about balance. You’ll need to dance around each pack as the city grows.

[@MusicHarmony41]

immediately watching this HAHAH

[@franimus662]

Great video, as always! Could you do a video explaining when to use different types of highway interchanges, like trumpet vs parclo, and why everyone seems to hate the vanilla T-interchange?

[@edwardmiessner6502]

Three reasons: 1) It looks like crap, 2) The ramps to and from the nearest roadway of the through highway feed onto and off of the terminating highway on the inside and not the outside as they should, and 3) the loop ramps for the far roadway are too high up in the air for their purpose. It's as tall as a three decker stack interchange!

[@jakepotter4]

In London we have a few congestion related things: 1 - congestion charge - in central London, you have to pay around £18 to drive between 6am and 10pm (I think), every day. There are exemptions but the list is very small. 2 - low emission zone - this surrounds most of London 3 - ultra low emission zone - this surrounds a lot of London and if your car isn’t compliant (which most cars new than 2006 are), you have to pay. If you don’t have a ULEZ car and your drive in central London you have to pay both fees too. People tend to prefer public transport but it is very expensive.

[@TAP7a]

The Underground isn't that expensive, certainly not more so than other cities' metros (not comparable in scale, sure, but that means the Underground is even better subsidised than them). It's an incredible asset for London, without it the entire city would be a gridlocked hellhole where the kids get pollution-induced lung cancer at 35 Overall, considering the externalities of car use and additional spend required to simply keep a car on the road, I'd say public transport is pretty cheap, but could be cheaper at point of use if we invested more into it

[@jakepotter4]

@@TAP7a depends where you live - if you’re in zone 6 commuting every day a travelcard is around £350 a month. I love our public transport and use it more than driving (I’m in zone 2), but it’s pricey.

[@ellisonsimon]

11:07 Actually, I think the scheme you are referring to is in Paris. The scheme in London is a congestion charging zone, and now also an emission charging zone.

[@lowowl76]

similar thing in Beijing too afaik, with restricting days based on number plate

[@malcolmrose3361]

@@lowowl76 I think that they have a similar system in a number of cities around the world. I don't know if it's apocryphal but I seem to remember a couple of articles that said that an unintended result was a boost in sales of luxury cars so the rich people owned both an odd and even registered car...

[@supermanifolds]

"One of the arguments that's made about relieving traffic congestion for the sake of green cities, is that idling releases emissions" This argument is fallacious and ignores the concept of induced demand, adding road capacity is never a positive for the environment as it encourages the use of a private car which is fundamentally unsustainable.

[@OG_0494]

I wonder if removing the toll booth from the original collector will shift some of the traffic back off the highway? It would have a more even share of traffic using both roads rather than trying to use the interchange by the Forestry district. Also adding the other two planned interchanges giving vehicles more access to the highway will ease traffic in the future. Looking forward to the new DLC!

[@robertsimpson9010]

I mostly agree that water pipes go under roads. BUT I’ve heard that you don’t want them connected in a circle because it lowers water pressure.

[@nannerz1994]

I keep running into the same issue where there's no room for pillars between lanes so I always prioritize that. Especially if I want to upgrade to 3 or four Lanes too! So I don't use dirt roads for planning anything but regular roads. Plus you have those weird slashes of grass in between it

[@Feelix_music]

I want to see a 100% self-sufficient city with combustion ban and encourage biking lol

[@legojenn]

I've used districts to map out rights of way. It's an imperfect solution to a annoying problem.

[@natatouillelab]

The combustion engine ban looks like a great way to get my cims to use more transit options :D

[@Fetch26291]

To get rid of a good deal of that traffic: Trams! Metro! Monorail! Trains! Get the cims out of their cars and into Mass Transit

[@djjohnmerry1980]

4th I take that for a lunch time!

[@ethakis]

15:00 is this not a good time to build light rail? Trams have a much larger capacity than buses.

[@Linden531]

CPP I love your videos but I need you to see this! Terraforming is changing the landscape and the atmosphere of a planet to resemble earth. Landscaping is what we do with the soil in this game! I also used the word terraforming until I learned it was incorrect! You seem like a man you appreciate the knowledge!

[@edwardmiessner6502]

No it's not landscaping it's grading! I learned that back in engineering school

[@dragade101]

I like exploring cities with small hidden streets, that you dont have 100% long streets connecting along either of the two axes but rather you have some streets that just dead end and thus having little quiet space that are not cut throughs for traffic (foot or car traffic)

[@handimanjim4378]

I think this game should be part of the application process for city planners

[@Flysky500]

When you adjust roads you can make them priority roads that then automatically set down stop signs and other stuff. Just a thing some people might not know

[@CityPlannerPlays]

[@SirPhoenixofSoCal]

Just saw your airport dlc video on the Cities:Skylines channel, cant wait for the episodes! Love this series and really helped improve my own cities. I also really like when you bring up real world scenarios and problems about city planning that fit into what your doing

[@DuelScreen]

This was a really fun video to watch. You had a significant challenge getting that highway built and I think you did well. Two comments: (1) regarding the roundabout you created to join the highway to the collector: Couldn't you extend the end of the highway toward the beach and move that roundabout to where the T-Junction was for the collector? I think that would be a better location than the middle of that land area. (2) Rather than put in the ramps near the new power district which is rather tight you'll get more queuing by connecting to the highway in the curve across the railroad track.

[@starwave8228]

Like central park, sparkly unicorn park is another asset you can really make your own connecting paths etc, i think the panda sanctutary would also look nice next to the central park there.

[@jase_allen]

Phil, you said in a previous episode that you're planning to redo the airport after the upcoming airport DLC is released. That's probably going to need more dirt. If a city knows it will need dirt for an upcoming project and they have excess dirt they need to get rid of as part of a current project, would they not deposit that dirt near the planned site that will need it?

[@abigah]

Different city.. That's Verde Beach.

[@williansantos8397]

the highway doesnt have a tool, but the other entrance has one, is that intented?

[@mundzine]

Just binged watch through the entire tutorial series and just gotta say along with the upcoming airport dlc, you made me reinstall and play cities skylines again. Genuinely learned a lot of new things from your videos

[@SwedisGamer00]

13:55 Love the little zoom out, makes the relazation hit even harder hahah

[@m.domsuni4514]

You could turn the meadow line into tram to increase the capacity of the people in a vehicle in order to stop bunching

[@edwardmiessner6502]

It would be better to extend the highway to the beach collector road and put in a trumpet interchange like the one at the end of Interstate 110 at Highway 90 in Biloxi, MS. If you don't want that then may I suggest moving the roundabout there.

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

"Is that a hearse? YES!" Ok there Phil...somecim's dead, calm down.

[@JWLake]

The long term planning that's becoming apparent in this build in light of other recently released tutorials is really impressive. Can't wait for the Airport DLC.

[@pebrain21]

The Central Park looks really good on a college campus.

[@kayokayo7917]

Can you give any examples of real world arterial roads that aren't freeways? I've been looking for some around me and I can't find any good examples. At least none that follow hierarchy from your video. Closest I can think of (in Miami, FL), is South Dixie Highway but that one has local roads connected to it everywhere. The North side of it only connects to collectors, but that's not consistent and only because there is a metro line running alongside it. Congrats on Airport DLC video btw.

[@DeletedUser410]

Interstates and Highways (in the US) are both arterials. Since most of the US is sparsely populated, you’ll often find houses and local roads directly off a highway, which is fine in general. The road is still used an arterial, even if it doesn’t 100% follow roadway hierarchy

[@kayokayo7917]

@@DeletedUser410 Ah, thanks for reply. I wouldn't say Miami, FL is a sparsley populated but I guess that's why the highway I mentioned has some of the worst traffic in the city lol.

[@TheStorff86]

A great connection to the new highway would be where you trenched through the hilltop. Using the terrain as a overpass ramp

[@markhackett2302]

At 9:00 you move a ban over a highway, and there is no way to put it to a highway, the highways ignore traffic policies. However, some of what that area is is an asymmetrical road, and they DO obey traffic laws.

[@JonTheGeek]

Auto tech chirping in here Idling is HORRIBLE for cars, and by extension, the environment. It's the least effecient your engine can be. So keeping traffic moving, at high speed, is actually better for the environment.

[@patriotssbchamps6385]

My traffic is at 58%🤣 I can’t get it to be better… I’ve added monorail and bus but that’s it for now. I haven’t really figured out a great layout to set up a metro

[@jsaysyay]

i think you would *love* the highways in MA near worcester, swaying up down and winding between hills, height jumping up and down. (sarcasm) also genuine question, boston "big dig" type things? like you put so many big roads through the city lol, i was thinking it the whole highway build. love the vids regardless of my own random thoughts and realizing why people dont like drivers from MA

[@ejhoffman2625]

yo, cheesman park! I've spent some time chillin in Cap Hill in Denver :D thank you for a great episode, take care, CPP! o7

[@ejhoffman2625]

yo, cheesman park! I've spent some time chillin in Cap Hill in Denver :D thank you for a great episode, take care, CPP! o7

[@ejhoffman2625]

yo, cheesman park! I've spent some time chillin in Cap Hill in Denver :D thank you for a great episode, take care, CPP! o7

[@joonaslindholm3793]

Just got out of school

[@ConfusedRaccoon]

London has the ULEZ which is ultra low emissions zone. Basically you have got to tell um you're driving within it, with what car, and they charge you a silly amount of money. Cleaner cars are cheaper, obviously.

[@brunoglopes]

Great video as per usual, but number plate restrictions are a terrible idea. We have those in Sao Paulo, in Brazil, and the only thing it has done was make it so that people have to pay fines if they have an emergency and they can't leave town if they live in restricted areas and want to go away for a long weekend/holiday. What actually ends up happening is people buy more cars/other methods of transportation with different license plates to drive in the restricted days (in Brazil's case, it's usually motorcicles or a used old car that ends up having higer carbon emissions)

[@Boaz_963]

Looks so good man!👏

[@KentBunn]

I'm a little surprised the rail didn't end up recessed all along the older right of way. Frankly, I was a little surprised at the grade crossings when they were put in originally too. Safety, as well as function would dictate as few of them as absolutely possible.

[@TheAciddragon069]

i saw a promo video yesterday 1/12/22 for the new airports DLC and the guy narrating it sounded very familiar. lol. congrats on the recognition

[@greygowder5558]

That's going to be a challenging place for horse stables beside a busy highway and railway corridor. They startle easily and will be working with mostly tourists and people who don't know what they are doing around horses. Probably a ton of liability issues for them to remain in that location.

[@jps080576]

They'll get used to it... in the voice of a mobster.

[@assassinpredator1]

I just discovered your channel this week and have absolutely loved your beginners guide series and cant wait to watch the rest of your content And now like 15 hours into your content after watching you build that monstrosity of a highway instead of just putting it underground like you should of, I genuinely from the bottom of my heart cannot tell if youre amazing at this game and are just dedicated to your choices, or total and complete dogshit and too arrogant to do it properly I genuinely dont know

[@wm-nu1yf]

Definitely need more Timberborn. It's been way too long.

[@slavenarkaimovski3897]

Green buildings pays 30% less tax,and they are source of potential buncropcy.So how can you make a profit in green city?

[@ScottRae]

How have I missed these??? Love the tribute zones! :D

[@MrAdamArce]

A great example of a city with bad road grid layout would be Cincinnati in my opinion. The population developed faster than roads could appear so at some point the roads were following foot paths people used to get around

[@m1nekji165]

So like most of Europe then?

[@noemierollindedebeaumont1130]

@@m1nekji165 I would say it's almost the same ! But with one major difference: in europe they've had centuries to have roads where they're the most efficient possible based on people's use from walking to horse riding and horse carriages to horse buggy and the first cars. That's a lot of changing of the road paths and data imput over time ! (That is only true for general road corridors that exist since before the invention of the car, after that you can see tons and tons of bad roads as well !!) Wheras in Cincinnati they went from walking directly to modern roads and car centered layouts....

[@m1nekji165]

@@noemierollindedebeaumont1130 America bulldozed for cars, not built for them in majority of places. Car-centric approach sprung up everywhere in 1930s and onwards, but America went full ballistic with car-centric suburbs, demolishing of public transport and interstates in the city centre. Europe's approach were much different in many ways and didn't include building communities that solely relies on cars.

[@interdimensionalsailboat]

It is quite comical to see not even videogame nature is safe from its infrastructure counterpart, but I'm watching this tragedy for fun and relaxation 😂.

[@chexmix185]

"We're gonna build a highway anyway." -DOTs across the US

[@Sumalamakem]

Why do you put traffic lights everywhere doesn’t it slow down traffic more?