Can I get my cheap Ferrari 308 to run?

The Influenzo is acting up again.. now my cheap Ferrari 308 is refusing to start.
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[@Number27]

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[@jbsentinel]

I think knock through to the living room then just admire it as a piece of art 😊

[@deeferguson9272]

Just remember when your spirits are down, you can look at it and sit in it for inspiration. You own a Ferrari 308 - you've already won !!!

[@sootaylor4071]

hahahahahahahaha won pricless

[@BlueWorldTV]

I love the fact that you are now defending her honor. We all end up doing that. Though to be fair, in 16 years of ownership, my 308 has never ever left me stranded. Which is more than I can say for my Mondial, which left me stranded several times.

[@alunrees3056]

I once spent several hours cleaning every electrical connector on 1977 Porsche. Suddenly every thing worked properly, poor earths cause no end of hurt and confusion. The 205 looks nice!

[@DJDinaggio]

If your battery runs down when the high beam headlights and the electric cooling fan is on, it's almost certain that your alternator isn't putting out enough current to keep the battery charged.

[@ducatipaso1386]

Italian cars of this era are notorious for electrical issues. The puny charging system really hammer batteries in city driving. Aging wiring looms, switches and relays can cause frustrating intermittent problems. Corroded grounds, connectors & sockets causing high resistance in circuits.

[@DJDinaggio]

@@ducatipaso1386 Yeah, I think the Italians made their electrical systems out of spaghetti. 😉

[@eddyborges2075]

Ducati Paso Yes also coming for motorcycles flimsy soldering and heat will easily corrode wires. Don’t hyper focus just on batteries and charging system little kinks and broken wires will definitely reek havoc on your electrical, including corrosion you cannot see in the wiring loom. Poor connections have got me scratch my head quite a few times.

[@marcryvon]

Ageed. Italian cars also have their own "Prince of Darknes" i.e. Fiamm or Magneti Marelli made electricals. You better check EVERY wire of the loom for cracks, corrosion and dried insulator. The whirring sound you hearf on your video #7 may well be your alternator bearings which could explain your charging failure. A simple test at your local garage will pinpoint that. Good luck !

[@sootaylor4071]

good response Marc

[@RallyandTrail]

10/10 for getting in to character 👍🏻

[@Paul-fb1em]

My two cents... always check the primary voltage to your coil. Inline fuses on primary circuit can get all muffed up lessening 12V primary voltage, lowering secondary spark output.

[@tomblatch1594]

Good work! You'll get there. I'd be inclined to check all earth points if even only one is obviously causing problems. They're all likely to degrade at a similar rate. Love the 205 as well. Two iconic 80's cars - love them both!

[@paultaylor9652]

Lovely Jubbly, 😀The Pug has arrived 😄 Good luck with the Ferrari matey, you deserve some.

[@sapacif]

Great close ups of the leaking points! Really clear and sharp.

[@Number27]

Thanks!

[@nigel9843]

Never a dull video with a Ferrari, hope you get the fuel pump fitted and all is well. Nice looking Pug 205.

[@aloneinanearthship4010]

Keep working on it. I have faith that you will get it going. Always looking forward to the next video.

[@NigelMarston]

205 looks lovely whereas the thought of owning an old 308 fills me with dread. You're a brave (mad) man. Need to dye your 'tache "Sellek Black" for full authenticity. :)

[@rneoman]

It'll be worth it though, the ferrari is iconic

[@marceld6061]

It was more of a dark brown, I would say.

[@RoeVenturesLLC]

I think it's a vacuum leak from a rubber hose, because old cars leak oil but not enough to cause issues since you checked fluids also if it leaks it has oil

[@kevinlong6482]

Another great video in the story of you and your car. Your love for it is inspirational! I am also super impressed on the knowledge of fixing it! Great selection of Tamiya cars in the garage as well Thanks again chief and keep going!

[@Number27]

Thanks Kevin! Love a Tamiya.. next to those are some proper vintage racers too..

[@n3307v]

Love your videos. Can't believe you're now going from Italian torture machine to French. I've always wanted a 308GTS, but you're pretty much confirming what I've always heard about them. My friend, who has owned a number of exotics says it's like being married to a super model...gorgeous but high maintenance. Keep up the good work!

[@BlueWorldTV]

I feel your pain man. The minute I started watching this episode, I said "fuel pump!" Your adventures with this car are like a condensed version of mine. I put in a Facet and it lasted about 8 years. Just replaced it with a pump which is more similar in design to the original and hopefully will last longer. Pierburg. Here is a link but I got mine for $100. mrfiat.com/ferrari-208-308-gt-4-gtb-gts-pierburg-fuel-pump.html

[@2702simmo]

Fast becoming one of my favourite youtubers I wasn’t so sure when I first watched the channel last year but it’s great and your enthusiasm is infectious Enjoy the 308 it’s beautiful

[@Number27]

Glad you’re enjoying the videos Simmo!

[@TNPTVconnect]

Porsche 924 have a problem with the fuel pump, common to those. Sadly, I have become familiar with the noise the engine (924) makes when tries to start while getting no fuel, and that was exactly the Influenzo's noise there! Glad you fixed it!

[@RussellMiddleton]

Much enjoying this series, and admire your patience (both the maintenance and the filming). Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the 205.

[@chuckhpnwx]

I love your determination...and the mustache! Hope you get it sorted. This car is just so beautiful.

[@ewanturner4381]

Loving your diagnostic process, even if you're probably not! I really look fwd to these videos and seeing how you fix it - keep up the good work. It'll be worth it!

[@Number27]

Cheers Ewan, keep safe!

[@gordonmcmillan883]

Get the alternator output tested - rebuild or replace as necessary. Consider removing and cleaning the fuel tank, a new pump won't help if you have forty years of dirt in the tank plugging up the intake. Probably due for a clean out regardless. As an initial check blow back down the fuel tine into the tank, refit the pump, and see if it works, even temporarily.

[@EasyFold007]

You can never EVER discard checking grounding/earthing points..the most unusual things that goes wrong can be traced back faulty earths..

[@stevecade857]

Especially true of older cars.

[@global_nomad.]

makes me smile everytime....love the car...love the videos...love the surprise ending

[@grahamnutt8958]

I feel your pain!!! With the time and effort thus far you deserve better.

[@Number27]

It’s ok... poor old car needs some time spent on it!

[@mkw2555]

Instead of this silicone you need to take out motor and gearbox buy two sets of simmering and seals and change them all. 30yo rubber is not going to work don’t full yourself 😉

[@timgosling6189]

Earthing is always a nightmare on 308s. Some had a bare copper braided earth strip that went all round the nose, but after 20 years it often became just a mess of green powder. Some other circuits, such as the vanity light switches relied for their earth on the self-tapper securing it to the door jam. With that sort of engineering it's a case of when not if! On the starting issue, you probably know this but for a healthy car the rules are: 1) never use the choke. 2) for cold start use 3-5 pumps on the pedal to prime with the accelerator pumps. 3) for hot start never pump the throttle but open it gradually to about half way while the engine's turning over. Of course if the pump's nackered technique is irrelevant!

[@Number27]

Mine has that braided copper strip..

[@darrenowen1970]

Love the channel, your enthusiasm is infectious 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Number27]

Thanks Darren!!

[@MikeB..69]

Keep up the good work and you will get there in the end I'm sure. Ferrari fun and games! Glad to see the Gti is home. 👍

[@robburton8462]

Great video, keep the updates coming! P.S the 205 looks nice, looking forward to a intro video at some point

[@BecklyCrackers_18thFloor]

I see no need to defend an investment, weather personal or finical. Thank you for continually sharing these videos.

[@richardgrantham6603]

Great videos I really enjoy watching the journey of your 308 👍

[@angelic_slayer]

Great video. Nice work Les. I love the 308. An absolute icon.

[@carlylekhan7007]

Thanks for Sharing your updates. Thought it sounded like a fuel issue. Have fun. Stay safe. Wishing Both you and your Family Good Health. Greetings from The Caribbean Island of Trinidad. Cheers Carlyle

[@Number27]

Thank you fella!!

[@MikeyBee1]

Another fab update Jack! You'll get there fella, keep plugging away and then you'll get to enjoy some decent roads now the 'allowed to travel for exercise' rule has changed! Great to see the Pug has finally turned up! I'm a jealous man now you have two awesome toys on your driveway!!! One request though, please can you select the adverts so they run at the start/end rather than in the middle of your VT? I know James (JayEmm Cars) and few other car tubers do this, as it's less annoying.

[@Number27]

Thanks Mickey, appreciate the kind words chap!!

[@malcolmlane-ley2044]

Your unstinting loyalty and optimism towards the 308 is amazing and I'm sure you'll get it sorted eventually; I think pandemic pug will give you a lot less heartache

[@nigeldowsett8560]

As others have hinted at, if you get to a point where you have had enough for the day then just stop working, sit back and just look at what you own. Go on, look at it! Beauty.

[@unforgettablesketches2695]

It’s still looking awesome. Keep up the good work!!

[@lebojay]

This is why Robin Masters had two of them.

[@Number27]

😂

[@John-fo9jy]

Fantastic car really enjoying the weekly updates!!!

[@Number27]

Thank you John!!

[@razmatazgaz]

Love it! Ace video. Ace Magnum Tash and what a dream garage you have now. The 205 looks mint and in the best colour too. Good stuff. Top bombing!

[@Number27]

Thanks buddy, have a great weekend!

[@markhendry1]

Nice little tease at the end, looking forward to the 205 introduction.

[@MrCarrera28]

Great video, enjoying your journey with the car and appreciate the fact that you make progress each episode. This is going to be a good honest car that you will love.

[@henryhol8538]

Thanks for bringing us on the journey! I hope you dont mind, but a lot of us are living our Ferrari ownership experience through you. Its good to see the 205, my first car in the UK was a pug 205, albeit a 4 door cooking version.

[@Number27]

Of course, glad you can do that!!

[@benbuchanan672]

My three favourite things from this video: You use takeaway containers to catch fluids. You have a collection of vintage Tamiya on the shelves. Your Ferrari has a new friend! Kept them up, loving the diary sagas 👍🏻

[@Number27]

Thank you Ben!!!

[@MichaelSeeds]

The reason why the side lights indicate is because of the common ground, ground path is broken so it finds another path to ground through the side lights.

[@antgrayuk]

Shame you didn't manage to end of a high with getting the Influenzo running but looking forward to the next instalment. Also looking forward to a video on the Pug, I used to own a Phase 1 R5 Turbo and always remember the tongue in cheek rivalry with 206 GTi owners on the road!

[@lami150sx]

Keep them coming great stuff

[@richardcarter1000]

Love these vids. That low charge and the whistle noise you're getting at higher revs sounds like an alternator giving up to me.

[@Number27]

Could well be! Thanks for watching!

[@Gozar111]

That car is keeping you well occupied! She is a beauty though. Looking forward to some GTi vids!

[@victorsaric8417]

I had the same problem with my 83 308 ( hard start hot) it turned out to be my fuel accumulator, it's a very common problem.

[@bobj8611]

Keep it up. I'm enjoying your progress on the 308. Nice David Niven mustache by the way. You look just like him.

[@Number27]

I wish!! 😃😃😃

[@DA-pn4rz]

I had a '68 Fiat 850 and it's lights did exactly the same thing, after days of swapping wires I put everything back, cleaned all the earth connections and presto

[@grecopena]

You get my vote for the best car KZbin fix it channel. Your mechanical skills and patience are remarkable. This is better than watching those epic TV dramas. There has to be a LS swap kit available. 😉😅😁

[@Number27]

Very kind Gregory.. thanks for watching!

[@Speedwelltuning]

It’s not particularly useful now but sometimes those pumps spring back to life with a light tap of a hammer. Loving the videos and the new Miami Blue addition. I live close to what was LAD motorsport and remember lots of these being fettled there, back in the day.

[@Number27]

Thing is it was making noise so not totally dead..

[@tomthompson7400]

ah , the old pumps held on with cable ties , and now your starting to just add bits of wire ,, this is a slippery slope ,, probably only the connectors on the earth , nows the time to fix it properly , as your not driving it.

[@MattMeNotYou]

Love the channel and the porogress you're making (on a Ferrari in your garage!), but have to agree - that earth looked very dodgy, bare wire clamped under a nut? Yikes! Get a multimeter and track the earth back. It'll be a damaged wire (check resistence) or a mucky earth on the chassis somewhere, there's not much else it can be. Earth is the easiest fault to sort so should be simple enough to locate and rectify properly. Who knows what else is sharing that earth, the fuel pump maybe? It'll make your life easier in the long run.

[@hes1972]

I had a issue with the sensors on distrobutor. Two of them. The gap between sensor and the iron star on the axle. You can’t see that. Adjust to the smallest gap and try. Then make it bigger until it rotates. After that adjustment my 308 starts really easy. The voltage from the sensors gets much higher when the gap is smaller. And if the batreri is bad it’s to low to ignite. When you spin the rotor faster the voltage gets higher. So when its starts it runs. But you maybe have brakers? Fun to follow you. Keep working. It’s worth it. Lovley car. I have two😊 308 and 328 gts.

[@robertl2856]

You will get there....just in time for that glorious summers day !

[@Number27]

Got the unions today so will fit later!

[@jasonwright9555]

I'm with you 100% on electrical issues Jack. I'm a complete tool with the sparky bits! :-( Looking forward to seeing if the fuel pump did the trick and also for some vids on the 205! Keep up the good work. cheers.

[@Number27]

Thanks Jason!

[@beinghumanwithcgjung1002]

Most electric issues are ground problems. Just follow the ground cable and make sure it has proper contact. You can get a full wiring diagram for the car online. It is very helpful to have that.

[@cheapcargarage]

Glad you found the fuel pump issue however I think you need to verify that the alternator is charging or if you just have a bad battery also.

[@jamesread11]

Once you get on top of the car maintenance then the problems will be few and far between, I had something similar, first few years spent thousands getting car to standard I expect, once it’s there, it’s easy to keep on top of.

[@sltillim]

I had the Bosch alternator rebuilt for $50 in the USA. The brushes wear down.

[@mattridgley9095]

The only thing weirder than electrics are Italian electrics!

[@Essin62]

Those old 205 GTi's are an absolute shitload of fun. I had a red 1.6 in my youth and it suffered and enormous amount of abuse and still ran fine.

[@larrychamel]

Best of Luck sorting out the problem. I hope that once you replace the fuel pump, she's going to fire right up! Congratulations mate, I see the other New Car is now home. Finally... the Moustache is coming in well. If the Car still leaks oil simply swab some off the floor and add it to your Moustache and you will definitely have the Magnum P.I. look down to a T! Cheers and hope you're all sorted out for the next video!

[@Number27]

Thanks Larry!! Hope you have a great weekend 👍

[@eliotmansfield]

Spray everything with brake cleaner so it’s all dry - then you should be able to see where it’s oozing from

[@Number27]

I did that but still can’t work it out on the driveshaft leak!

[@FergusPol]

The easiest way is to brush on talcum powder. Especially on a clean and stationary engine the origin of the leaks will show themselves almost straight away. You may find it's starting much further up.

[@kasztan2008]

I just binged watch the whole Ferrari experience and I'm glad you picked up 205 GTI, I will be watching that with pleasure.

[@Number27]

That’s great Mike, thanks for watching fella!

[@f3600]

you are one of my best sub. love your taste in car. Have a good day!

[@Number27]

Thanks Fred!!

[@anthonyvee]

Hello there. I bumped into your video series, by mistake mostly since I love that car and to be honest about 10 years ago, I was looking to buy one. Honestly, I don't think that I could afford it, not as much the purchase price, but the upkeep. God bless you, you have a few things that I don't have, bravery to try/do things, a great sense of humor and lots of knowledge. I'm running dry on those, mostly now in my 60s. Stay with it and enjoy it, it is a beautiful car and my favorite model and color. As to the name, influenzo, I take it stands for influence? Anyhow, just a silly thing but the Italian version has a peculiar sound to me....Stay well and blessings.

[@Number27]

Hey no,. It’s because I bought it during lock down.. a mixture of Influenza and Enzo! Thanks for watching buddy!

[@anthonyvee]

@@Number27 Anytime. I'll keep on watching...

[@hectorsewell1823]

Great to see thanks. I was wondering about fuel pump...or filter? Reckon the 205 might be similar speed. Both good choices...

[@brianmcclanahan5887]

Thank God you're able to troubleshoot and turn the wrenches yourself! If you were to have a Ferrari mechanic chase down all the little Gremlins you would be well into a five figure repair bill by now! Keep it up!

[@bigrockauto]

Embrace the leaks it is a masterpiece!! If it stops leaking you have problems!!!

[@user-mg9he3qj3n]

Loving the 205 GTI my first ever car back in 1989 was a F reg 1.9 in white I wish I’d got it now!!!

[@mikeclifton7778]

It's easy to forget that this car is forty years old; I think a few senior moments can be excused. Great series on this lovely car.

[@Number27]

Thank you Mike, really appreciate you going back and watching… loads more to go!! Happy Christmas chap!!

[@frielocity6286]

WOW, you're getting there and congrats on the new arrival! If nothing else, at least the car is a great Ferrari parts "getter"!

[@Number27]

Totally!!

[@scotchgod8478]

Nice to see you're still so patient and forgiving with this italian diva, and yes maybe she's been neglected for too long. I honestly hope this won't turn into an endless nightmare. Btw love that 205 Gti, one of my favorite cars back in the day and it still looks fresh by today's standards.

[@Number27]

Thanks buddy and also for being a loyal watcher!! Take care

[@kim007250]

yep ..with classic cars there is always an issue around the corner waiting to trip you up ...Feeling your pain

[@okgo8315]

Especially an old Ferrari. 😣

[@tonye2695]

Every step is progress forward. As you say the item you had to deal with are minor and just because been sat around for long time. Looking forward seeing more and on the Peugeot too.

[@Number27]

Agree!! Thanks for watching!

[@charlesshamseldin9555]

You make a compelling argument for a hot hatch 😁 All kidding aside, been really enjoying watching your journey of discovery with this car.

[@Number27]

Thanks for watching Charles!

[@ftlaud911]

On a positive note at least you have a project to keep you busy. I definitely see many more videos in your future until everything is sorted.

[@Number27]

For sure!

[@tyrannyterminator4179]

It takes a brave man to venture down the path of classic Ferrari ownership...enjoy the frustration and curiosities it will give you!! My condolences to your sanity.

[@Number27]

Ha!! It’ll be fine!

[@tedpearson3289]

Me again......it will be the fuel pump fuse. My 308 again had the same problem; after driving for a while it would go fluffy and feel like it's running out of fuel. Then it wouldn't start. Quick fix is to take fuse out and clean connectors or just buy a new fuse. In my RHD 308 it is fuse number 3. Draws quite some current and old fuses seem to degrade and get too much resistance. On mine what threw me for ages was that I could hear the pump ticking so thought it had power.......after I realised what it was I realised how much quicker the pump had to pump! Don't give up they're brilliant when right!

[@rhettcorcoran2879]

Can't wait for the next video, Ferrari 308 and Peugeot 205 GTI, absolute heaven, good luck.

[@grayfool]

It's an old Italian car, it will break. When it does work it will be great though. And I'm with you on the electrics, definitely a Black art.

[@simes205]

I drove my 205GTI today for only the third time this year. Always puts a smile on my face! Enjoy it

[@phil-jz1mj]

That’s a great garage lineup!!

[@carstenweiland7896]

If you want to be fine with some old seals leaking, try if some rubber juvenating additive will help a bit!

[@mp3229]

Enjoying the continuing story as it unfolds, good luck with the fuel pump 🤞

[@Number27]

Thank you Mark!!

[@ryanmccormick2150]

I bet Magnum was pleased his 308 would of been under manufacture warranty 🤣😂 love the 205 Jack and its a lovely colour 👍

[@Number27]

Cheers Ryan !!

[@bispal]

Exactally what happened to the indicators and number plate lamp on my F355. MOT inspector ran a new earth for me too!

[@timothymills733]

The 'Stache is working, but now you need a Tigers cap to finish off the look :-)

[@skithewhitestuff]

This is turning out to be more like pneumonio rather than influenzo. The moustache is coming on nicely though Tom

[@Number27]

🤣🤣🤣

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Lights acting weird is always ground. Like brake lights going on when you put the indicator on, or rear lights going off completely when you break and stuff like that. Just pull another wire or clean up the connections if you can reach them and it should be good.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Ahh haha. I see you found it already ;). Good job! Edit. If the the earth connection to the battery is bad it is also possible to overload the connection by putting to much things on at the same time. That could also cause the pump to just get to little electricity and simply stops working when you turn the fan on. And since the indicators where all coroded up as well as the distributor, the car maybe has been stored in a very humid environment for a while. So if the new pump does not fix it that could be something to look at. If that's the case though, better prepare for all sorts of gremlins popping up the first couple of months. Then most connections will probably have corrosion and they will eventually also start acting up. Not really a big problem, just anoying and a lot of searching for stuff.

[@okgo8315]

For 50yrs I've seen literally thousands of cars in Italy with lights acting strangely, I thought it would be something complicated, then it happened to my car recently only to find out it was just a bad earth to LH rear lights..... and after all those years of wondering😁😁😁😁👍🏽🇬🇧

[@CliffjumperCars]

A couple things to be aware of in terms of the charging system - the exciter wire which runs through the gauge cluster, theoretically turns on the battery light when it's *not* charging, can get corrosion on either end, because it uses a simple spade connector, and that can keep the alternator from actually generating current. It can be intermittent. Actually, *all* of the spade connectors have a tendency to develop surface corrosion, and that can often be solved just by unplugging them and plugging them back in. You can also spray them with electronic contact cleaner/lubricant/protectant. And as you discovered, adding supplemental ground/earth wires to different areas of the car really helps. Make sure all grounds are clean and non-corroded or you get the system trying to find new points to ground itself, like through light bulbs that aren't powered on. Just an Italian car thing of that era. Call it a "feature". But you should be able to remove the alternator and have it rebuilt and upgraded for less than $100. Pretty sure the stock alternator is around 70amp and you can have it uprated to 90amp without much effort at most auto electric places.

[@Number27]

Yes, that’s definitely the way I’ll go with alternator... thanks!

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

Lovely Peugeot. I got a '91 309 with ironically the same issues as your Ferrari 308. If it bogs down when you turn the fan and lights on it's 99% the alternator. Had the same thing on mine, couldn't figure out why it was running like crap at night and then finally replaced the alternator and it ran beautifully.

[@johnshellenberg2329]

Love the channel, keep it up, thanks for sharing your journey with the 308. Trying to find good quality auto content is harder now thanks to You tube being dominated by rich jag-offs spending their daddies money on exotic cars and then whining about them in videos with awful clickbait titles.

[@theravedaddy]

Always an earth problem when another bulb flashes or the filiment has a faint glow. I couldnt see the light unit but the original earth has corroded maybe inside a riveted connector or similar fitting. Adding a new earth does away with it, im on my 5th escort now so im well versed in 'whyTFs it doing that?' Same with fuel pumps!

[@marceld6061]

If you haven't come up with a name for the 205 as of yet, 'Bluegot' came to mind as it popped into frame.... Rhymes with Peugot. Glad to see that the issues with InfluEnzo have, so far, all been typical problems of any other car of that vintage. It gives me courage to chase the dream!