The three reasons this electric Ferrari 308 is better than the original

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@MasterMalrubius
@MasterMalrubius 4 жыл бұрын
I think the lines of the 308 perfectly fit the futuristic idea of electric vehicles. Great subject and well done!
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 2 жыл бұрын
me too
@livingroomguitarist7
@livingroomguitarist7 4 жыл бұрын
Those Tesla motors are awesome. It's really hard to criticize a mod if it has made the car much much quicker, lowered the running costs substantially and made it more reliable.
@livingroomguitarist7
@livingroomguitarist7 Жыл бұрын
@thomas Schumacher that's why you only do it on a car too far gone.
@erikk1820
@erikk1820 Жыл бұрын
@@livingroomguitarist7No Ferrari will ever be that far gone to justify this castration.
@amrs1960
@amrs1960 4 жыл бұрын
surely electric conversion very much depends on the state of the car / engine. Like you said if you're looking at an engine rebuild for £20K then electric conversion, assuming you have a car with good body/ chassis, makes a lot more sense, personally I'd rather see a classic car saved through having undergone an electric conversion than lose that old classic car
@davidmacdonald1695
@davidmacdonald1695 4 жыл бұрын
Mal Function Nah mate, I think he is right. Nothing half arsed.
@amrs1960
@amrs1960 4 жыл бұрын
@Mal Function don't think there's anything half arsed about the conversion in the film, it looks extremely professional and if it means it keeps the 308 0n the road then it's good thing surely
@fubene5495
@fubene5495 4 жыл бұрын
i would keep that lovely 308 on the road even if i have to pedal to make it move. Electric conversions will save lots of marvelous cars, just need cheaper and better batteries to start a new industrie around electric swaps, drivetrains, axls, controllers....
@curmudgeon1933
@curmudgeon1933 4 жыл бұрын
@@thejupiter2 . As more and more cities bring in legislation to ban petrol and diesel cars from city centres, these exotics will become expensive paperweights. Their wealthy owners will trailer them to Goodwood, etc, and thrash them around the track, then trailer them home, and put them in the garage till the next time...or, more companies will develop plug and play EV conversion kits. The drive train can be removed and kept on the shelf, the EV drive train can be installed, and the car can continue to be used and enjoyed. Without the fear of a flatbed journey home, and a large repair bill. Owning an old classic is often an expensive experience. It will be like horses. You can ride your horse, but not through the centre of London. It's also an expensive hobby. I like cars. I love to hear a classic Bugatti doing the Goodwood hillclimb, but it's not sustainable or practical for most people. Remember, most car journeys are the boring, mundane, banal daily driving we all do, stuck in traffic and commuting to and from work. Also 90% of the time cars are parked, probably more for exotic classics that only get driven on fine, sunny days. Even if electric cars turn out to be not the final answer for personal transport, ICE cars will disappear, and sooner than you think. Just because you don't want it to happen, doesn't mean it won't
@K1lostream
@K1lostream 3 жыл бұрын
I think it depends - there are some classic cars where the engine is not the centrepiece; Citroen DS springs to mind, or pretty much any Rolls, and yeah I think they may lend themselves to electric conversion. In other cases, the engine is the defining thing about the car - to lose it is to lose the essence of what the car was, and what you're left with is a full-scale model. I wouldn't presume to tell anyone else what's the right or wrong thing to do with their own car - as long as the owner enjoys what they've got then thats the main thing, but had it been my money, that Ferrari would still have it's beating heart.
@honda4185
@honda4185 Жыл бұрын
LOVED the Knight Rider intro .. that was soo perfect and awsome.. what childhood memories it brings back to Kitt😃👍
@paulkane9863
@paulkane9863 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a 31 year old Esprit and will never sell it. In the future if it has a major engine failure I would be very tempted.
@04dram04
@04dram04 3 жыл бұрын
That would ruin its character completely. Just swap a honda s2000 engine instead
@gvybin
@gvybin 3 жыл бұрын
@@04dram04 I disagree on this. I own a 1980 lotus esprit S2.2. The character of a lotus esprit is defined by its driving characteristics, the way it handles and steers and not so much by its engine. In a conversion I would be worried about the gain of weight tho. Mine is just above 1000kg, Paul Kane's will be heavier but with a turbo also more powerfull. If that conversion keeps the weight distribution between front and rear as perfect and the centrepoint of gravity as low, an electrified esprit would be fun to drive. One note. The esprits gearboxes (although only reverse and 1st gear would be used) do not stand a lot of torque, so I don't know it would cope with the massive torque of a tesla motor? And to finish. I know that as an easter egg , Tesla has incorporated the view of the james bond submarine esprit on the screen of model S and model X that have the air suspension package. SO it would be cool to drive an early esprit with a Tesla motor. BTW, I love that ferrari 308. Georgious original looks and future proof
@puebespuebes8589
@puebespuebes8589 Жыл бұрын
@@gvybin whitout the engine it is not a sport car anymore, maybe a performance car but not a sport car, it is like converting a horse to magnetic floater,. It may be better on paper but it is not a proper horse anymore, for the price of a ferrari i can buy a basic plane 2 time fasted than it so yea, no engine no Ferrari.
@discogodfather22
@discogodfather22 4 жыл бұрын
Can't dig it, with Ferrari it's 90% about the engine and the sound.
@thefreedomguyuk
@thefreedomguyuk 4 жыл бұрын
With Ferrari, you say......OK, but this is a 308. I love them, but connoisseurs will say it's not a true Ferrari. And the 308 never had much engine, nor sound, to start out with.
@Dietz001
@Dietz001 4 жыл бұрын
@@thefreedomguyuk What "connoisseurs"? Way back when CAR Magazine was CAR Magazine (the Bishops, the great LJKS, etc), Fioravanti's 308 came on top: "For: Great looks, sweet engine, that chassis. Against: You tell us. Sum Up: Poetry in motion".
@chrisvig123
@chrisvig123 4 жыл бұрын
This Ferrari will never have “ the engine” soooo...😀
@discogodfather22
@discogodfather22 4 жыл бұрын
​@@chrisvig123 Not really aware of Ferrari history are you? The Dino derived block, a true flat plane V8, was used in the 288GTO, F40, and all the way up to the 355 and 360. Not sure where people get this "308 engine sucks" thing, it was the same block and was very capable, obviously. 355 engine in particular seems to be the big favorite for sound and rev limit, so was that also a Ferrari that will "never have the engine". Lol
@discogodfather22
@discogodfather22 4 жыл бұрын
@@thefreedomguyuk If by "connoisseurs " you mean people who don't know anything about cars or engines or Ferrari, then yes, you are correct. It's the same engine Ferrari used for 40 years bro, including on some of those same "connoisseurs " that will tell you the 288 GTO, F40, and 355/360 had some of the greatest engines Ferrari ever made. Most of what people who claim to "know" is usually nonsense.
@Abrothers100
@Abrothers100 4 жыл бұрын
It just doesn’t seem fun without shifting and working the clutch. That’s why I’m not excited about newer cars.
@chrisvig123
@chrisvig123 4 жыл бұрын
Oh it’s fun when it’s got triple the power 😀
@bloccoaspirale1867
@bloccoaspirale1867 4 жыл бұрын
In my experience electric cars are objectively superior and functionally near perfect but not very involving, and once the novelty of the new driving experience wears off they rapidly lose their appeal.
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 4 жыл бұрын
It is a different kind of fun. Much more subtile.
@paddy19656
@paddy19656 4 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldderooij1774 Do you mean subtle or is this a new word?
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 4 жыл бұрын
@@paddy19656 No sorry English is not my first language. In Dutch it is "subtiel" so yeah, I did my best and I was close!
@richardcarter1000
@richardcarter1000 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive conversion and the best looking EV along with the E Type on the planet. Not for me though. Would be like putting a casio quartz movement in a Rolex. The engines in my F355 and E Type make the cars for me.
@sucapizda
@sucapizda 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a “prancing toaster”.
@paddy19656
@paddy19656 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because it'll toast anything Ferrari makes with an ICE.
@thepieman4398
@thepieman4398 4 жыл бұрын
@@paddy19656 love it :-)
@thedr00
@thedr00 4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic idea. Something that puts me off old cars is those unknowns of engine and mechanical reliability. Having conversions like this be more accessible and commonly available could breathe such a wonderful new lease of life into cars that just sit, unloved and ignored in dusty garages or covered by a tarp for years at a time. Lovely idea. Kudos to Pete for having the balls to do that to a Ferrari!
@ThaDutchDK1989
@ThaDutchDK1989 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t buy an classic car then .. problem solved but a tesla instead
@geraldswain3259
@geraldswain3259 4 жыл бұрын
They do a after market kit for this conversion that transforms the sound of the car, it is not cheap however. I may be a little scant with a detailed description but it basically consists of two large bamboo lolypop sticks which are affixed to the rear driven wheels aka like we did with our bikes as kids . The effect is quite exhilarating giving it a wonderful bark .
@marky9117
@marky9117 4 жыл бұрын
Once the novelty of the shove in the back wore off, I’d be pretty bored tbh. Much like big power turbo cars. Give me a screaming N/A any day.
@thefreedomguyuk
@thefreedomguyuk 4 жыл бұрын
One does never tire of the torque in an electric !!
@chrisvig123
@chrisvig123 4 жыл бұрын
Turbos lag too much 😯
@ColinFox
@ColinFox 4 жыл бұрын
I've been driving my Tesla model S P85+ for the last 7 years, and the longer I drive it, the more I'm happy there is no engine noise/vibraion/heat/waste/pollution. I also used to ride a Suzuki GSXR-750R, but honestly, I never rode it again once I got my Tesla. Electric is just superior in every possible way. Unless, of course, you're still mentally a child and need a loud engine to scream "look at me!" to everyone - were you not given enough attention as a child that you need to be obnoxiously loud now?
@marky9117
@marky9117 4 жыл бұрын
Strange response. Great childhood here thanks. 👍🏻 I won’t bother with the rest. I’m glad you’re pleased with your choice. Enjoy.
@terryturner4116
@terryturner4116 4 жыл бұрын
@@ColinFox would you say we shouldn't listen to music as well because sound isn't important?
@stevenroach4955
@stevenroach4955 4 жыл бұрын
Forget the electric conversion, you need to get those wheels on the influenzo!
@weallfollowmanutd
@weallfollowmanutd 4 жыл бұрын
I think they look a bit cheap looking personally.
@christianvann4222
@christianvann4222 4 жыл бұрын
This.
@Michael_Lorenson
@Michael_Lorenson 4 жыл бұрын
In the video, the combination of motor whine and tire noise make this thing sound like a jet-powered car. I don't obviously know if that's the case in person, but it was surprisingly cool. The change to 50/50 weight distribution means that, in effect, this is no longer a mid-engine car. It's now much more like a Corvette or BMW, or any other 50/50 car, with the balanced and benign handling associated with that design. So it loses its mid-engine handling characteristics, one of which is putting the power down better on acceleration, and one of which is off-throttle oversteer. Not a bad exchange for normal driving, actually. But on-the-limit, it will be a very different car. This really is a complete transformation into something different that looks like a Ferrari.
@brettself
@brettself 4 жыл бұрын
Since 1976 (when I was 6), I've loved Ferrari and the 308. I followed Ferrari in all respects since then, but I began to slip away when Pininfarina was no longer the primary design source. I'm not saying Ferrari design has slipped or that they are any less amazing, but they aren't the same. To see the first Ferrari I ever loved converted to the spirit of my other favorite marque, Tesla, is a dream come true. It's a dream I wasn't even having. I'm astounded by this conversion and will definitely consider electrifying in the future.
@alexmanojlovic768
@alexmanojlovic768 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Ferrari's were the most beautiful cars around. Now, they're cool & aggressive but are rarely beautiful.
@KenanTurkiye
@KenanTurkiye 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I am triggered, a red 308, the music of ''KITT'', I even had the 'red strobe' light attached to the front of my first car, I used to run home afterschool to watch the KITT on tv when they were aired some decades ago. Ok I AM TRIGGERED. But, I don't know about the E-motor thingy, I like the rattle and roll of an ice, the induction noise of a well tuned carb, the whine of a supercharger and the burping of the exhaust. Electric cars are like an automatic washing machine for me, but this 308 is playing with my mind! lol
@paulbriozzo4895
@paulbriozzo4895 7 ай бұрын
Hmm...the original 308 engine only put out 180 kw? Why not I say apart from the noise experience!
@blarkdexture8899
@blarkdexture8899 4 жыл бұрын
Needs an aftermarket exhaust.
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
Ha!! 🤣🤣🤣
@justblairthompson
@justblairthompson 4 жыл бұрын
You can get a speaker that will give you any exhaust note you like....
@rickc2102
@rickc2102 4 жыл бұрын
@@justblairthompson No, you can get a speaker that will play a flat imitation of a rich, three-dimensional exhaust note.
@havocmwf
@havocmwf 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly, I love the influenzo videos, secondly, this video really helped with a problem I have. Having lost the use of my right arm in a traffic accident on another Italian icon, a Ducati motorcycle, I have had to limit myself to automatic cars. Some cars are only available in manual such as the Z3 M Coupe (3.2L) so I had to make do with the Z3 Coupe 3.0L automatic to sate my urge to own and drive one. The Ferrari 308 / 328 is another car I would love to own and drive but cannot as they are manual boxes. I have thought of maybe having an automatic gearbox fitted somehow, but this option to convert to electric provides two solutions. One, my need for an automatic is solved and two, the car is future-proofed from the coming legislation and cost to fuel gasoline engines in the future. Thanks again for this video and thinking outside of the box.
@arrangrant6037
@arrangrant6037 4 жыл бұрын
Was this car converted by the Moggy and the guys on the Vintage Voltage tv programme? I noticed they had a red 308 in the background in their garage when they were working on the other cars featured. It looks like one of their very professional conversions
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like "Thunderbirds are go"
@Michel-7.7.7
@Michel-7.7.7 2 жыл бұрын
Cyclist don't hear you coming. Perfect opportunity to revive the old clothspins and playing cards in the spokes tec, you used on your bike as a kid
@cologne2792
@cologne2792 4 жыл бұрын
I think your 308 experience and enthusiasm qualifies your opinion to be extremely valid and relevant. I love to hear an old Ferrari V8 but this conversion is spectacular!
@GenaF
@GenaF 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic car, I love the work that Moggy does with such vehicles. He's a smart guy as this is THE future.
@HollywoodF1
@HollywoodF1 4 жыл бұрын
So cool that the side air intakes are functional for the EV. So it weighs the same- amazing- and the center of gravity has been moved down and forward.
@zacht9447
@zacht9447 Жыл бұрын
It must have a range of like 50 miles if it "Weighs the same"
@SloverOfTeuth
@SloverOfTeuth Жыл бұрын
​@@zacht9447 He said about 180, compared with about 200 for his ICE 308. In my mind I'd want more from a GT, but be mostly happy with this from a sports car. A day trip to somewhere 200 miles away might be inconvenient with this, compared with fueling a GT just once or an ICE 308 twice, that's for me the only negative. As long as the conversion has the technical performance, and this clearly does, I think the rest is purely personal taste as these are pleasure cars.
@XiraArien
@XiraArien 4 жыл бұрын
It with mixed feeling I see this. I have my 73 Porsche and would never convert it. I drive it to have the analogue feeling - sound, acceleration and gear shifting. If I want to drive a fast, quiet and easy driven car I just drive my daily driver Mercedes. The only reason for this conversion is accepted is f the original engine was blown and not feasible to repair. You simply do not drive classic cars for the power, but for the feeling. You si mply just made a review of a Tesla.
@SpencerF6
@SpencerF6 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. If you think faster is better, you don't drive a classic car.
@paddy19656
@paddy19656 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpencerF6 Wrong. A faster classic car is better than a slower classic car.
@ColinFox
@ColinFox 4 жыл бұрын
The climate crisis is real. Even if it wasn't real, the realities of pollution and oil/war/geopolitics make petroleum based power systems an incredibly stupid idea. Countries are already talking about outlawing the sale of ICE vehicles. I would rather see old classics like this get a new life as an EV conversion than go to the junkpile.
@XiraArien
@XiraArien 4 жыл бұрын
Colin Fox sales are only regarding new cars. Besides it is not the old classic cars that really contribute significantly to the overall CO contribution. None of those with classic cars use them as daily drivers. I might drive 3000km in mine each year while doing 35000km in my daily (which by the way going to be replaced by an electric one).
@elliyeti73
@elliyeti73 4 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the title I thought it was a terrible idea but after watching the review it actually seems like a good idea.
@Doug791
@Doug791 2 жыл бұрын
A Ferrari that sounds like a scalextric car. Conversation ends there I think.
@lasticonoclast
@lasticonoclast 4 жыл бұрын
I have an Alfa Duetto as well as a Model 3 Performance. I drive my Alfa on weekends to enjoy a relaxed classic car sensation, while my Tesla is a daily driver with passenger/luggage space and sports car levels of efficient performance (I also have a low-mileage S2000 for the occasional canyon carving). When I first bought the Tesla, I did some joy rides, but the novelty of 3.2 second 0-60 times wear off after a while. I don’t think I’m unusual in wanting to keep these sensations separate. As they say, “horses for courses”. 1 second ago
@pjay3028
@pjay3028 4 жыл бұрын
You do realise that when you're frolicking about in your PJs you look rather like someone who has wandered off out of a care home? I'm surprised someone hasn't reported you yet. Haha!!
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
First: great name! Second: I like to be ready for when I’m readmitted
@AllanFarrell
@AllanFarrell 4 жыл бұрын
I literally came here to say the same..I have those pyjamas bottoms on right now 😂...as for the car, great idea and execution, but somehow leave me wanting more in terms of sound. It needs a growl.
@pjay3028
@pjay3028 4 жыл бұрын
@@AllanFarrell oh dear, he's not going to be very happy if you've pinched his pyjamas! Haha
@GenaF
@GenaF 4 жыл бұрын
Allan Farrell where are those Jim jams from? I love the colours/pattern in them.
@AllanFarrell
@AllanFarrell 4 жыл бұрын
@@GenaF I bought them in Primark/Penney's I think!
@BoudewijnvanHouten
@BoudewijnvanHouten 4 жыл бұрын
It's probably even better than their current FI Scuderia line-up. Kidding of course I think it's a very nice conversion and probably very reliable to. A big thumps up from me!
@andrejensen7837
@andrejensen7837 3 жыл бұрын
The world is best when you got the smell and noice. Compaire that sound with the V8 are you shitting me?
@Glock_Nico
@Glock_Nico 4 жыл бұрын
"The engine is a big part of these cars." No shit. As much as I like this conversion, a Ferrari is the engine, the chassis is just a passenger.
@silviosirianni9260
@silviosirianni9260 4 жыл бұрын
that car is amazing, i love it. It takes a pioneer to start change. well done Peter!
@tomj2959
@tomj2959 4 жыл бұрын
No issues with the electric change. It's your (or someone's) car. It's faster and handles better...it's a Tesla motor and the car's been rebuilt, I should hope so. The whistely engine sound is kinda' cool. Comments: If you are getting 180 or so miles on a tank then your engine is in need of help. I get around 250. Also, a Ferrari 308 engine with 50K miles is not "tired" unless it's been poorly maintained. Well maintained Ferrari engines will run 100K miles.
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 4 жыл бұрын
Point is, to maintain an old Ferrari well, that costs almost as much as a rebuilding of the engine. That is why many are not well maintained. Besides that, 100K makes Japanese engineers laugh (Honda NSX anyone?). Let us face it, old Ferrari's are beautiful for eye and ear, but they are crap quality otherwise.
@tomj2959
@tomj2959 4 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldderooij1774 Everyone to his own opinion. I'm glad you think Ferrari's are crap...that way you won't buy one.
@Paulomagalhaes495
@Paulomagalhaes495 4 жыл бұрын
Tom J - So opinions aside, how do you explain several Acuras Nsx in the US having reached over 417k miles with factory engine, running like day one ???...
@danielstokker
@danielstokker 4 жыл бұрын
@@Paulomagalhaes495 lmfao not running like day one for sure ... ffs some mercedes and bmw's ran over a million miles and are still going toyota also your rebadged honda isnt special by any means
@Paulomagalhaes495
@Paulomagalhaes495 4 жыл бұрын
666 racing and gaming ... And what kind of Merc & Bimmer are you referring to, V8 limousines ?... Diesel engines ?... Sorry, not the same "Mid-engine Super Car Champions League" !... FM & AM is not the same wave lenght ...
@FlamesOfThought
@FlamesOfThought 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I asked London Electric Cars about doing this to mine. It would be quite a commitment both financially and the fact there is no going back. This may well be the only viable future in 20 years if the liquid fuel network eventually atrophies.
@asdreww
@asdreww 4 жыл бұрын
Cool project, but It just seems a bit pointless. It may be 'better', but so is any modern car by comparison. If ICE cars were completely banned or the fuel had run out, & this was a way to maintain a classic on the road, I get it. but cars like this are for enjoying, & there's nothing stopping you enjoying the original car with the V8.
@dimi911
@dimi911 4 жыл бұрын
If fuel runs out in my lifetime, I will stick my classics in my living room and admire them like you do with art. Going electric defies the purpose
@paddy19656
@paddy19656 4 жыл бұрын
@@dimi911 Oh come on you two! "pointless"? "defies the purpose"? Isn't the point or purpose to actually DRIVE the car? If this car came with a ripping sound system that mimics an ICE engine, it would be a hands down winner.
@rccsrgaming6987
@rccsrgaming6987 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the best benefit is the reliability of the electric motor. It means you can drive it everywhere as a daily without (essentially) any maintenance. Sticking a car in your living room and not driving it is probably the worst thing you can do besides destroy it. But the lack of manual..... oof.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 2 жыл бұрын
nope ektruc beter
@kingmiura8138
@kingmiura8138 Жыл бұрын
OK, how far between recharge? How much to replace batteries? How long to recharge? Any worry about catching on fire? No luggage space and no air conditioner?
@badger748
@badger748 4 жыл бұрын
Not for me I’m afraid. Heresy! Just because you could, doesn’t mean you should .....
@Lemma01
@Lemma01 3 жыл бұрын
Driving pleasure ceases to be about speed once you've tried it. Fred tells you that. Tactile, auditory, sensual stuff - even smells - if you have cars over fifty years old, it's all a combination of these that gives driving pleasure. This is a bit sad - for a petrol head. Good video. Thanks.
@richardowens9061
@richardowens9061 4 жыл бұрын
I've always loved the beauty of the Ferrari 308. I've always hated how expensive it would be to maintain and keep it on the road. This gorgeous car has now been turned into an everyday driver that is going to be FAR more reliable, while performing MUCH better! I would much rather have this car than the ICE original version. As for that original ICE sound, I might consider installing some loudspeakers in the rear, an amplifier, and a synthesizer tied to the speedometer.
@CasaManNL
@CasaManNL Жыл бұрын
Maybe you liked it this much because you were still wearing pyjama pants 😂
@simodthebod4256
@simodthebod4256 4 жыл бұрын
Best review of an EV I’ve seen. You’ve really managed to catch the sensation of acceleration and the sound of the turbines? Loved it! 👍🏽
@marknewman8981
@marknewman8981 4 жыл бұрын
You know what I'd compare this to? When CDs came out, and a few people said, "I still like vinyl records better." It was right at 11:40 for about 30 seconds that put me in that mindset. Maybe for most performances and most bands, the crisp, clean, clear sound of compact disc is preferable. But there's that one special Al Jolson song, or an opera piece your parents used to play, that will only ever sound proper to you when there's a bit of scratch to it ...
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
Ha, I like that comparison! Thanks for watching Mark
@grayfool
@grayfool 4 жыл бұрын
I soo get it. My dream daily would be an electric Citroën DS, or SM, or seventies long wheelbase S class. You're right, it is the future.
@vigorousseb
@vigorousseb 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work on the conversion!
@bobbyse26
@bobbyse26 3 жыл бұрын
Love it, I’m sure you can replicate the sound electronically and it would make the perfect 308!
@TheGorillafoot
@TheGorillafoot Жыл бұрын
My only gripe is there is no manual transmission anymore. It's one of my favorite parts of my 964. Is there any electrics sports cars that have manuals?
@TonyDelMonte
@TonyDelMonte 4 жыл бұрын
This type of electric transformation I can definitely live with. Bring it on. As a petrol head, what I can't stand is the huge amount of nice premium cars with small four-cylinder diesel engines (C class, E class, 3 series, 5 series, A4, A6, XF, etc, etc, etc.), and their owners feeling like they're driving "the ultimate driving machine". This is especially rife in Europe.
@gvybin
@gvybin 3 жыл бұрын
If those owners do feel that way, they are happy owners. So why can't you stand people being happy ? But I do understand what you mean. A lot are business lease cars and the owners do not have a big choice from the company in engine/power.Usually very small capacity diesel engines. The brands however have given them a very good choice in interior and exterior options and gadgets, just to make people feel happy. I am a petrol head, like you, and do own an old lotus esprit. But I also have that typical premium 4 cylinder lease car from the job. For the first time , it is a hybrid and although a 4 cyl diesel ( mercedes C300de) it has a combined power of 306PK and a whopping mountain of 700Nm torque. And this is way different to my previous 4 cylinder diesels.(BMW 320d or Alfa Romeo 156 or .....) Still, the old lotus esprit is more of a petrolhead car than the quick Merc
@0hypnotoad0
@0hypnotoad0 4 жыл бұрын
I like the cyclists in the opening who were expecting a giant cloud of blue smoke and a blast of V8 noise, but then the car just silently whirred off into the distance at an unreasonable speed.
@trickyrat483
@trickyrat483 4 жыл бұрын
"Anna Thema"? I think I used to date her sister. :)
@elgar6743
@elgar6743 4 жыл бұрын
I once dated an Anna Philaxa...not a good experience.
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
😄
@olabergvall3154
@olabergvall3154 4 жыл бұрын
I went on a date with Anna Notherone. Didn't go well 🙄🤷‍♂️
@olabergvall3154
@olabergvall3154 4 жыл бұрын
And her sister Notta is just toxic
@nigelbullock9039
@nigelbullock9039 4 жыл бұрын
uh-NATH-uh-muh
@olabergvall3154
@olabergvall3154 4 жыл бұрын
James brought me here to your channel. Your character, enthusiasm, personality and humility made me stay. Hats off to you good Sir!
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
Why thank you 🙏!!!
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 4 жыл бұрын
You just need a copy of the Outrun arcade game soundtrack in that tape deck. That will make up for the lack of engine note
@alexmanojlovic768
@alexmanojlovic768 2 жыл бұрын
On another episode, where he identified & resolves his coil issue, (possibly with his new exhaust) I genuinely don't like the sound. I've never really been a fan of V8's & he himself says it's the worst V8 in any Ferrari, so I agree with people re soundtracks. The drive is more important than the sound. The sound will be missed, but having a far more beautiful, older car that drives modern & better, is better than a ropey, slow, hard to drive car with problems, wondering what's going to blow next & at what cost.
@backcountrylifemagazine6912
@backcountrylifemagazine6912 4 жыл бұрын
A crime against humanity that..a noiseless Ferrari! I'd take the Influenzo any day. Great vid though, as always.
@upssidep9283
@upssidep9283 4 жыл бұрын
The ONLY 308 in the world that you can daily with no headaches, BRAVOOO 👏
@iamasmurf1122
@iamasmurf1122 4 жыл бұрын
And when you run out of electric charge the whole car needs to be put on a transporter , with petrol you can walk to a petrol station ! Electric cars are not maintenance free and those battery packs are expensive to replace
@lavishmctavish4905
@lavishmctavish4905 4 жыл бұрын
EVs are actually causing a lot of headaches.
@rockandmeatroll
@rockandmeatroll 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks to you and Pete for sharing.
@gazcolman9184
@gazcolman9184 4 жыл бұрын
I really don't think anyone would think of this as sacrilegious (hopefully). I think it's awesome and with the coming demise of fossil fuels it's something we have to embrace if we want to see and keep old classics on the road. Just imagine an electric Intergrale or Lotus Cortina!
@nigelbullock9039
@nigelbullock9039 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Vintage Voltage and the amazing restoration of a BMW 1602 to electric. It was stunning to see and as impressive as the 308 on show the other day.. This is the way forward...
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 2 жыл бұрын
giud éktruç cuversion
@markbennett6658
@markbennett6658 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me think of the first newer Star Trek movie with Chris Pine as Captain Kirk driving a 60s Mustang in the 22nd century? It’s super cool and a great fusion of old and new tech. You’re right not to do it on the Influenzo Jack. As James May would say I like it ‘standard’. The concept done on a bespoke chassis or even a Tesla Model 3 platform as a high end homage/replica would be fantastic but please don’t cut up any more actual 308s!
@Sailingcoachpete
@Sailingcoachpete 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good to see that the future for classic cars is so good!
@myleschilton3473
@myleschilton3473 4 жыл бұрын
With all it's faults, the 308 engine was part of the magic. It was the baby of the family and oodles of fun for a man in his twenties. And the gear box and shift was essential to the theatre. Mastering heel and toe is a right of passage. Ahhh the joy of youth, thrashing a qv to the red line.
@markfox1545
@markfox1545 Жыл бұрын
*rite of passage.
@vitovitale9867
@vitovitale9867 4 жыл бұрын
What could possibly be cooler than an Italian classic sports car combined with Tesla engineering! This is a fantastic idea a mini Ferrari La Ferrari without the million dollar price tag and superfluous noise!!
@Maggie-q1u
@Maggie-q1u 4 жыл бұрын
Nice balanced review! I personally dont think its for me but i didnt drive it. In a car like a 308 its got to be about the noise and the feeling the car gives you and not just the performance.
@Dave-in-France
@Dave-in-France 4 жыл бұрын
On the subject of classic car engine noise with a transformed vehicle, there is a device which can be purchased ($1000) and it plays sound files through the car so you can still have authentic engine sounds.
@jackl7080
@jackl7080 Жыл бұрын
This is brilliant. I love the 308 and I love EV. Combining the two makes something even better than the originals.
@DrPittenstein
@DrPittenstein 4 жыл бұрын
Work of absolute genius. I'd make room in the garage for a petrol one and an electric one.
@Retroscoop
@Retroscoop 4 жыл бұрын
I'm all for ! Keep this visual legend alive, but give it a smaller carbon footprint. Leave the noisy motors for the show off-ers. But adding some motor sound might be safer for other people on the road.
@Iwillfindonesoon
@Iwillfindonesoon 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I watch videos on conversions like this with genuine interest but have never yet been convinced by such a transformation. In fact the truth is that those pyjama bottoms have now put me off the idea of considering it. Forever.
@probono3284
@probono3284 4 жыл бұрын
That's a fascinating video, and I really appreciate the honesty. It would have been so easy just to pretend that it was massively inferior to the real car. But it raises an interesting question. Is a Ferrari that's been so radically altered still a Ferrari at all? I don't really see how it can be. And if it isn't, then why not just build a replica Ferrari with an electric motor and non-Ferrari components? I'd imagine that you could build it to look exactly the same, but with modern brakes, suspension, lights etc that would be a lot better than the original, but supplied at a fraction of the cost by mainstream manufacturers. As well as forgetting about the cost of maintenance for the mechanical side you could then stop worrying about maintenance costs completely. It becomes almost a philosophical question - what is a Ferrari?
@jehl1963
@jehl1963 4 жыл бұрын
Looks really nicely done! But I think it would sound better if you removed the air filter cover. 😉 That being said -- a car with better performance specs is not always a better car. By rights a 2020 Porsche 911 GTS outperforms my :69 2.0E. But would I love it more? Does it involve me more in the drive? When I drive it, will I still feel the connection back to Stommelen? Mitter? Will I hear the connection to the 917? Not so much. The same is potentially true with the 308 GTE. Choose wisely.
@kipsome45
@kipsome45 4 жыл бұрын
jehl1963 well said. I think this type of conversion will appeal more to younger generations who have grown up with EV’s becoming the new normal.
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
😄😄😄😄😄😄
@guywilson187
@guywilson187 4 жыл бұрын
A thought provoking video for sure. This must come down to personal preference surely? Personally I love the shape of the 308/328 family and if my only option was electric then I would make the conversion. However, personally a Ferrari for me has to make noise. The engine is as important as the looks and although I accept that this converted car drives and performs better than the original, that, for me, is slightly missing the point. I applaud the owner for keeping his passion alive and his car fresh but if I owned one it would be petrol. 😉
@wpb1395
@wpb1395 Жыл бұрын
I understand the noise thing, I really do, but I think as we move into the future, noise will be seen more and more as an annoying achronism. People will detest the sound of a loud motor, regulations will restrict the noise (even for older cars) and the experience will be altogether less appealing. Embrace the future.
@BassicVIC
@BassicVIC 10 ай бұрын
This opens the fantastic opportunity for virtually all old classics to be revived or resurrected.
@Fioravanti.80
@Fioravanti.80 4 жыл бұрын
Tragic!! 😊 Ferrari's were sold (and bought) for their engines!
@kipsome45
@kipsome45 4 жыл бұрын
Corran Helme have to say that we’re in the minority here, but totally agree.
@mgbgth5097
@mgbgth5097 4 жыл бұрын
would you put an erkin great electric motor in Mallard ?
@preonmodel8354
@preonmodel8354 4 жыл бұрын
I’d be disappointed seeing that car, rolling down my window to get a listen to the engine... ! And then... nothing..... : (
@EvertPieterseArt
@EvertPieterseArt 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car, it is wonderful to see the attention to detail in the conversion.
@xai1971
@xai1971 4 жыл бұрын
I would miss the noise and working the engine while driving. But is is an interesting idea. Imagine if Tesla built a car that looked like that. Or if Ferrari built an electric with retro design?
@originalsubwayjones
@originalsubwayjones 4 жыл бұрын
Check out the Tesla Roadster Gen2, coming soon.
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
Yes .. Ferrari will build a pure electric one day..
@PeteCourtier
@PeteCourtier 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt Ferrari would build a retro design electric car. The pedestrian crash legislation would make the front end design gash. Nice thought though👍
@xai1971
@xai1971 4 жыл бұрын
@@PeteCourtier It is a nice thought.
@xai1971
@xai1971 4 жыл бұрын
@@originalsubwayjones Unless they change their design by very much....
@RyanHellyer
@RyanHellyer 4 жыл бұрын
I think this makes a lot of sense for an old car with an engine in a very poor state of repair. I think we will see more conversions like this over time, particularly as electric kits tank in price. I don't think the range really matters in a car like this. It'd presumably be mostly used for short trips anyway.
@12dougreed
@12dougreed 4 жыл бұрын
Having owned quite a few 308 328 I would love to drive this car, fantastic. To tell the truth I got fed up with the noise from the old v 8 Much cooler to be fast and quiet
@alexmanojlovic768
@alexmanojlovic768 2 жыл бұрын
Less Plod can tell where you're speeding, unless you blast past them, & neighbours are less likely to complain!
@JeffBoen
@JeffBoen 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of non-owners whining in here. As a 355 owner (with a Cappy III, the best sounding car of all time in the opinion of many) I think this is *fantastic*. Tech has to change eventually and it's a great idea to keep older classics alive via integration of new technology like this. The future is coming whether you like it or not. Change is the only thing in life you can count on (until death, that is).
@TNPTVconnect
@TNPTVconnect 4 жыл бұрын
Poor Enzo spinning in his grave!
@adrianchell
@adrianchell 4 жыл бұрын
Wrap him in copper wire and he'll generate enough current to charge the car.
@lavishmctavish4905
@lavishmctavish4905 4 жыл бұрын
@@adrianchell ... for 3 seconds...
@Cre8Lounge
@Cre8Lounge 4 жыл бұрын
Ferrari will be making e cars
@lorenzovelealvento4408
@lorenzovelealvento4408 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cre8Lounge are you sure ?
@daleyoung87
@daleyoung87 4 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzovelealvento4408 already do. The La Ferrari ( the fastest Ferrari) is an E- hybrid.
@richsfc1
@richsfc1 4 жыл бұрын
It's a beautifully visual vintage Ferrari that drives thoroughly modern! Yes, it does not have the Ferrari sound but it also does not have the expensive engine rebuilds, even oil changes. You have incredible acceleration and with the quiet you can really just enjoy the motoring! Because it is thoroughly modern you will not be afraid to drive it daily. As for all you so-called enthusiasts scared to get your garage queens dirty or add a mile to the odometer, with this set up you will not be scared to come out of the closet...garage!
@ryanmccormick2150
@ryanmccormick2150 4 жыл бұрын
I think this sort of thing is going to be a big business in the coming years and I can totally understand why! The future is bright 🌞! Cracking video as always Jack 👌 👏
@MrCarrera28
@MrCarrera28 4 жыл бұрын
I agree I can imagine restoring a beautiful but not especially rare Citroen or Mercedes and having a beautiful car that wafts across the miles with all the old school panache and modern reliability.
@MrCarrera28
@MrCarrera28 4 жыл бұрын
​@Graham Thank you for your reply and sharing your unrelated opinion; I must admit that I can sleep at night now I know your view. Nowhere did I comment on resource consumption or suggest it was anything but a toy? It is a Ferrari, the very definition of a toy; mind you with the electric motor it is probably going to provide more trouble free miles even if it provides less usable range then ICE. In fact all I said was that I can imagine an old Citroen or Mercedes both of which in my opinion are more about their handling and 'waftability' then their engines per se being quite enjoyable to convert to electric for trouble free modern reliability. Perhaps read people's comments before replying with negativity and ill conceived responses that do not relate to comment itself. FYI, you may be frustrated by the whole zero emissions furphy as indeed there is no such thing as a zero emission vehicle when you consider the whole life cycle. There are emissions from the production, support side of usage and from recycling (because of Lithium battery recycling is actually significantly higher (more than 25% higher). However, a recent study in Australia suggests that EVs here come out approximately 18% lower per km in whole of life emissions than an ICE Car (We have 21% renewable power). In NZ where they have approximately 84% renewable an EV emissions are more than 60% more efficient per km. ( Neither Australia or NZ have nuclear power so the definition of renewable has not been skewed by that which is also a furphy.)
@ryanmccormick2150
@ryanmccormick2150 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrCarrera28 sounds really cool, I'd definitely buy something like that 😀
@FIREBLADEONE
@FIREBLADEONE 4 жыл бұрын
This is the future and Peter has done a very smart thing.... it is terrific car on many levels! Apologies to the aficionados.
@roscoe9507
@roscoe9507 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly I’d like to say, from the engineering point of view, this is absolutely amazing and it really shows you what can be achieved. She also looks absolutely gorgeous, the wheels are perfect too. However, for me, you don’t buy a car like that to hear nothing, you buy a car like that for the engine, for the feel and the noise, burning pure dinosaur out the exhaust, that’s what it’s about for me, in my opinion. Top video as always
@briandowling8372
@briandowling8372 4 жыл бұрын
Love it! has the performance now to go along with the looks.
@christianvann4222
@christianvann4222 4 жыл бұрын
Its the future of keeping classics on the road! Fair play to him
@nieko3038
@nieko3038 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting car. Not really a fan of ev's but still. Like the way it sits. Always loved the 308. Great channel 👍
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nieko!!
@lascm5237
@lascm5237 4 жыл бұрын
Bit like buying a vintage watch and shoving a quartz movement in it when the original stops working. These conversions and today’s electric cars in general will be way out of date in ten years time as technology rapidly moves on. Don’t tinker with the original, let us petrol heads do that 😁
@TheMrFishnDucks
@TheMrFishnDucks 4 жыл бұрын
With cars for me it is all about the looks so this would be perfect. Awesome car and vlog. Keep up the good work.
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@carlharvey7098
@carlharvey7098 4 жыл бұрын
OMG! That is amazing! Surly the future of classic cars?
@thefreedomguyuk
@thefreedomguyuk 4 жыл бұрын
The Yanks have done similar for 20 years, with their vulgar LS engine swapped classic cars. This is the much cooler version of a swap.
@VonCoco1944
@VonCoco1944 4 жыл бұрын
Repeating the same thing throughout this 16-minute video was a little boring - we get it, it's quiet and quick. However, having the owner say a few words about the conversion would have been insightful and much more interesting
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
Little unfair, I only spent 15 minutes talking about it being quiet and quick! 😄
@chrisroberts1440
@chrisroberts1440 4 жыл бұрын
Really impressed that it can have a reasonable range without adding significant weight. Makes you wonder why all of the mainstream manufacturers EVs are so heavy or have only 100 miles range?
@DanielJacksonNor
@DanielJacksonNor 2 жыл бұрын
It's easy when the car is tiny with a low profile, like the first Tesla Roadster. It get's exponentially worse with larger cars. In addition, this range isn't terrific compared to modern EVs. It's about half of what you would expect from a decent 50k-60k range EV today. Plenty for a weekend car like this, but not stellar.
@Smiler7
@Smiler7 2 жыл бұрын
100 mile range?? 200/300 mile range.
@marcdavis2840
@marcdavis2840 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats to the owner for going out on a limb to do the conversion 👍Thanks for doing a great review on the 308E 👍
@mattk2595
@mattk2595 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect car for that mod ;)
@benbuchanan672
@benbuchanan672 4 жыл бұрын
Another excellent, informative, balanced video. You cover all the pertinent points of this debate. As the owner enjoyed the heart and soul of his 308 for 28 years I can accept his decision to trade emotional character for objective performance and usability. I would struggle to respect the decision of someone who bought their first Ferrari already converted, however. Surely they’d be missing out?
@busjardine
@busjardine 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the look on the cyclist faces, as you quietly pass them and go to warp speed :)
@thhall459
@thhall459 4 жыл бұрын
The video really, truly does look like he’s going to warp speed every time he floors it as the camera is looking back. It’s mind boggling! And I’m with you. I bet those cyclists were just astonished!
@matthewmark3811
@matthewmark3811 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video do you know there is some speakers that you can add to an electric car that make the sound of a gas car.
@jrvapor
@jrvapor 4 жыл бұрын
Haa, all those wires in there almost look like a flux capacitor, great Scott!!!
@filiannuzzi5871
@filiannuzzi5871 4 жыл бұрын
love old cars but we have some awsome things to come.
@ask4george1
@ask4george1 4 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful car. I think for the money that I could do every mod I want on my F-430. One thing for sure it's probably more reliable now.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 2 жыл бұрын
f43⁰ éktr7c be akeßoum
@r4mbo67
@r4mbo67 4 жыл бұрын
THAT IS BRILLIANT !!!!! Id love to be able to afford to convert my 2.8i Capri..... if I could I would at the drop of a hat 👍 .... well in that man for doing something different 👏
@danielstokker
@danielstokker 4 жыл бұрын
Its a abomination ffs , and if you do that to a capri im going to comit my first murder
@r4mbo67
@r4mbo67 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielstokker ..... any donkey with that kinda power and torque is gotta be better than a weasey twin siamese port gutless Cologne......
@jamesshives5679
@jamesshives5679 4 жыл бұрын
I've never been a fan of classic electric conversions. I appreciate the idea, I appreciate the engineering/work that people put into it, and I have no doubt it is fun, but it ruins the whole point of a classic imo. Classic cars are classics because they have soul and character, and in many cars, especially cars like ferrari and porsche, alot of that soul and character is in the engine. To me, to convert a classic v8 or v12 ferrari or v8 mustang or air-cooled flat 6 911, ruins the point of even having one in the first place. If the point is having a lightweight, classic "feeling", replicas are available, kit cars are available, or one could build their own car, and frankly I think that would be alot cooler to be driving around in your own car. I think classic cars should be preserved, and if our fuel supply is completely gone (which I doubt will happen anytime soon, and if or when it does, there may be alternative fuels by that point), then I can see the appeal of doing this, in order to be able to keep driving a classic, but alot of classic cars are hot rodded out already, to see even more clean originals being altered is a bit of a shame I think. I'm not a total purist, I like modified cars, I'm sure I would like an electric classic car if I drove one, but I will always think in the back of my mind that it is a shame that it doesn't have its heart.
@thomasfrank280
@thomasfrank280 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I'd personally build an electric version of a superformance ( I hope that's the right one) gt40 replica
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
Well argued.. to be honest these V8s were not Ferraris finest sounding engines. thanks for watching!!
@jsanders100
@jsanders100 4 жыл бұрын
No, it’s 2020 get on board.
@bobmcl2406
@bobmcl2406 4 жыл бұрын
Came here to express similar opinions, but you said it better than I would have. Why would you choose a Ferrari? There are junkyards full of Geo Metros crying out to be saved. If I drive a classic it is because I want the full experience of driving a classic.
@jamesshives5679
@jamesshives5679 4 жыл бұрын
@@Number27 And thanks for the video! I enjoyed it
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