Can I Trust Bible Translations: Evidence for the Bible pt17

TimeStamps for specific translations
0:00 About Bible translations in general (this is important info)
18:50 KJV
28:05 NKJV
30:55 RSV
32:57 NRSV
37:08 NASB
39:54 ESV
43:17 HCSB
48:31 NIV - 2011 NIV
58:10 THE LIVING BIBLE
59:55 NLT
1:01:55 THE MESSAGE
1:06:45 NEW WORLD TRANSLATIONS
1:08:53 NIRV
1:09:06 ISV
1:09:30 NABRE
1:12:51 NJB
1:13:45 NET BIBLE
CONCLUSION 1:14:05
Is it a conspiracy? Do translations intentionally change the Bible's message? Is the NIV a "gay Bible"? Is it the "Not Inspired Version"?
There has been a lot of false information floating around out there about how the Bible has been translated. Many people are confused about the difference between textual sources and translational methodology. Many are under the false impression that newer translations are "taking out" various passages that belong in the Bible. However, there are some genuinely bad translations. This video is an attempt to bring clarity and rationality to the discussion and leave you with a general understanding of Bible translations.
Check out all the videos in this series "Evidence for the Bible"
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[@elgabenedicta]

For those who wants to listen about specific translations: 18:50 KJV 28:05 NKJV 30:55 RSV 32:57 NRSV 37:08 NASB 39:54 ESV 43:17 HCSB 48:31 NIV - 2011 NIV 58:10 THE LIVING BIBLE 59:55 NLT 1:01:55 THE MESSAGE 1:06:45 NEW WORLD TRANSLATIONS 1:08:53 NIRV 1:09:06 ISV 1:09:30 NABRE 1:12:51 NJB 1:13:45 NET BIBLE CONCLUSION 1:14:05

[@MikeWinger]

Thank you!

[@philipbuckley759]

and thank you for listing all of the versions, covered, in this video....right here....

[@elgabenedicta]

@@MikeWinger you're so welcome and thank you for making the video!

[@wokegod007]

Elga Benedicta I... love you.

[@kathyrosewarne5217]

may I add NLT 59:55-Only because I was hoping to hear a critique of it as one of my favs

[@iamjustawife2619]

I always stick to ESV, NKJV, or KJV. The ESV is easy to understand with today's English and is a more literal translation than others, the KJV and NKJV I read also simply because my grandfather was a KJV only type of man and he was the man in my life that brought me to Christ, not by preaching or forcing me to church but leading by example. He was more of a man than I will ever be. Read his Bible and prayed daily no matter what the rest of the family was doing, always said grace and thanked the Lord for a meal. God bless you Grandpa I miss you, can't wait to see you again when I can be reunited with you and the Lord in heaven.

[@PrinceDarius777]

These are my three favorite as well.

[@raheemcamal998]

Amen

[@liliankuhn4671]

I can't stand the KJV. A couple very accurate translations but the rest are awful. The HalleluYah Scriptures are the best at using the original names of people, God & Yeshua & everything else. It isn't an easier read but it makes more sense now.

[@Gen-ZChristian]

I just started reading some ESV and I love it. I’ve mainly only read KJV, Just because the churches I’ve been to usually stick to it, not to say that they’re only KJV (although about three people I know are) just that the KJV is there go to. And I completely agree with your statement.

[@jndvs95]

@@Gen-ZChristian Ive bounced back and forth between KJV and NASB1995 but then it was pointed out to me that some verses from KJV were missing from the NASB and that threw me off. I like in the bible app though, I can go to a verse and switch between different versions to see what they all say

[@davegink9222]

The NLT is what brought me to Christ. It enabled me to see the larger biblical concepts with much more clarity and understanding. I found I could read it like a book, and it opened my eyes.

[@carterheekin1974]

That's what that translation is especially helpful for.

[@28jes91]

Grateful for a Bible app to have access to all of these translations and more.

[@kimberlyhampton5332]

Ditto!

[@stuartmurcott7906]

Youversion is the app I use, it has plenty of versions to choose to download... include most, if not all the versions mention in this video.

[@addictedtojesus922]

Lol Yes. But one day, the Marxists will change the wording in the app. Please, buy physical Bibles too.😎👍🏻

[@stuartmurcott7906]

@@addictedtojesus922 Haha yeah I've found myself looking at the wording of a bible and felt sure it was worded differently a few years earlier in the same version. So I always have my trusty hard copies of my favourite bibles in my backpack. I've come to this video for help in selecting 2 or 3 that I feel I can trust (after disastrously trying to read The Message fabrication). I've made my choices and will be obtaining hard copies over the next couple weeks and will be replacing my old NKJV in the backpack.

[@28jes91]

Totally. A hard copy us a must.

[@midnitglory]

When I came back to church in my early 30s I bought myself a NIV bible even though my church was an only KJV crowd. I fell in love with the NIV version and read the whole Bible in less than a year. Because of it's easy to read and easy to understand reading I felt the Holy Spirit work through the words and have been brought to tears and into a state of humbleness of just how merciful and righteous and mighty our God is. If the NIV can work through a member of a Conservative independent Baptist member, it is the word of God. The only difference is that I and my young children can understand better when we read the Bible together. Thank you Pastor Mike for this amazing educational sermon...so many people need to hear this and stop bashing other Christians on their bible preference. The bad translations is often clearly seen by true Christians anyway.

[@tiffanyh1274]

The NIV is the version I read too. I feel the same way you do. It’s been great. But I do wanna explore a little.

[@lelendkendrickmd4393]

Niv version came out in the 1970’s If it was good why has been revised 3 times since then?

[@midnitglory]

@@lelendkendrickmd4393 christian that think like you are the reason why so many turn from faith. English language is not the only language the Bible is printed in. In fact many verses in my native language are far more accurate, in depth and have a better understanding than the words English has to offer. There are words in other languages that takes a whole English paragraph to grasp the concept. I'm not for translations influenced by the world, but I am for a person being able to understand God is trying to say. In the end all versions except for the very first language given to the apostles and other writers of the old testament are not going to be the exact words but the concept remains the same. I can tell you a flower is pretty in other words, beautiful, gorgeous, stunning

[@josephinenelan4204]

I had a friend who was KJV only and eventually lost our friendship. She was very judgmental and would often shame me for using other translations.

[@josephtracey4411]

@@midnitglory no people turn from the faith because they're taught God's word is not perfect, only the original manuscripts were perfect, and those don't exist anymore. People run from the faith because they decide, "If God can't keep His word perfect, than I can't trust Him". People leave the faith because they compare bible versions and they quickly realize they all teach very different things, which is lying, and which is telling the truth. A perfect example is the very first verse in the bible. A perverted version will make "heaven" plural, thus changing everything and making a liar out of God. "Heaven" teaches there's one universe, while "heavens" teaches there are multiple universes. Which one is the lie, and which is the truth? I've seen countless people reject the faith because of the lies taught by people like Winger and others, but I've seen very few people leave the faith because of Textus Receptus only teachings. Btw, study the manuscript history, you'll see that all new versions use perverted manuscripts. People can get saved off of perverted bibles, but they cannot spiritually grow.

[@lastcall8286]

Just discovered Mike recently really really love this guy how he breaks the word down and teaches

[@paulgreenleaf600]

I just found him a month ago. As a newer Christian who've searched KZbin quite a bit the last year. Mike answers my questions in an easy to understand way. It's been extremely helpful

[@janrogers5691]

Very much agree!

[@RightlyDivide365]

Disagree, he shows a complete lack of faith in the LORD.

[@28jes91]

"Don't ignore the footnotes."💙💙💙

[@Ghghghghgh-]

I am using your advice. Much appreciated

[@JWCFB]

I just discovered this gentleman on KZbin and I like him a lot. Thank you brother Winger.

[@dougdaniel9196]

Better look into Winger and his approval of false Bibles like the NIV. The man is a heretic!

[@dougdaniel9196]

@@GM-uy3cm I have been listening to numerous preachers on line for several years. Many of them seemed to be preaching sound doctrine. Upon more closer scrutiny I discovered that only a handful are genuine. No one is perfect all will make ERRORS that is one thing. I find it impossible to believe that Winger supports bibles like the NIV through some innocent mistake, particularly when he does seem to know things well. So that means he preaches according to various trabslations? That is unacceptable. I listened for years to very knowledgeable preachers like Walter Vieth, Mike Hoggard and even Kent Hovind who all have no excuse for preaching the fallacies they preach considering they preach a large majority of valid material. Satanists are everywhere and seek to deceive the flocks. Some like Joel Osteen, are obvious liars while others like John MacArthur rely on more subtle means to deceive. Sorry I don't trust well versed biblical teachers that support massive lies like the NIV. It wasn't till I stopped listening to a lot of these men that I trusted for years did I finally begin to understand many key biblical teachings esp Revelation. Genesis says the Serpent is the most subtle of beasts

[@dougdaniel9196]

@@GM-uy3cm Peace unto you through the Father and Hesus Christ. I always take issue with any one who preaches from coubterfeit criptures

[@MrZORROish]

@@GM-uy3cm You could start by not paying attention to Mr Daniel's poison - he displays the kind of root of bitterness that defiles people. For what my opinion is worth I think Winger's spirit displays a humble, serious, thorough and Christ exalting approach to the Bible. You are in pretty safe hands with him

[@anonymousperson6462]

@@dougdaniel9196 you mean you take issue with someone who doesn't preach from the kjv, right?

[@lellyt2372]

When I was first born again I fell into the King James only camp. I was given a book from my pastor which put forward the case for other translations. I do read others and have a NLT and an NIV at home which helps me to understand and appreciate the word but I have to say, when I feel the need to read psalm 119 (which I read more often than any other psalm) I always read it from the King James. Something about that translation of the psalm gets across the feelings and awe and in parts, the desperation of David as he begs God almighty to guide him and protect him etc and I gain confidence to come to God in my hour of need as David did.

[@anonymousperson6462]

If one does a comparative version analysis of pre-kjv with kjv of psalm 119, one can see that the translators were taking pieces from other translations and having that be the kjv. (i.e. - verse 1 same as douay, first part of verse 2 same as the bishops bible, while the second half of verse 2 is nearly identical to douay with only "and" put in as the difference, verse 3 a revisement of Geneva, and verse 4 nearly identical to Geneva with the exception of "us", verse 5 same as Geneva, verse 6 a revisement of the Bishops bible for the first half, with the second part of verse 6 back to Geneva... shall I go on?) "Truly (good Christian reader) we never thought from the beginning that we should need to make a new translation, nor yet to make of a bad one a good one, but to make a good one better, or out of many good ones one principal good one..."* *an excerpt from the translators to the reader left by the translators of the kjv in early kjvs.

[@canadiankewldude]

kjv Geneva, the Bishops bible all great Bibles unlike the RC Jesuit version douay. Those so called missing(important parts) are in the letters of the Church Fathers, older thus proof of which was tampered with. Paul warned of gnostic influence in the Church in his day.

[@Nick-wn1xw]

@@anonymousperson6462 yep. That’s exactly what they said they did in the translators to the reader.

[@anonymousperson6462]

@@Nick-wn1xw thanks for acknowledging that.

[@johnrockwell5834]

Search up the "Evaluations of Gender language NIV 2011" The NIV 2011 retains most the false translations of the TNIV Gender Neutral translation which overwrites so much theology as to alter Christianity into a more PC direction contrary to the original texts.

[@martineyles]

"Having it in the belly" is an interesting phrase. Makes me think of the phrase "had a bun in the oven". I will look out for a translation in the future saying "Mary was found to have a bun in the oven.".

[@nymusicman]

Oh man, I really want that translation as well. LOL

[@plasmatikification]

@@nymusicman That could really confuse future literalists.

[@danielshepherd7306]

Up the duff...

[@RomingAroundTown]

Probably can be found in The Message.

[@tgleo1]

This video is the most thoughtful, careful, nuanced and informative presentation of differences between translations I have heard, as to all of the translations with which I am familiar, and I have listened to every video on this subject that I can find on KZbin.

[@tfun101]

Without a doubt the best video about the different bible versions on KZbin. Btw I’ve watched almost all the videos in this series and it’s awesome.

[@moisesfrias1117]

HE IS wrong, as a JW I can use ANY bible translation EXCEPT my UGLY one, and prove exactly the same thing I believe, when you have the knowledge it doesnt matter the translation, but know all the verses that lead to reach certain understanding of what the bible teach....and I can prove that , choose the topic and the translation you want...and message me

[@Janet-ys4jb]

This recently came up in our Sunday school class where two folks were saying KJV was the only true translation. So glad to find this video explaining several translations and a paraphrase. I appreciate your teaching

[@BesannaRael]

This information is awesome! I wish someone would have loaded this information into a spreadsheet. I mean, I probably will do it for myself, but this would have been an awesome download to offer people. Thank you for doing all of this research 😊💕

[@theencouragingwordministry]

Thanks Mike for your channel! Big fan! I came out of the occult and new age after 12 years and it's so important for me to be understand solid Bible teachers! I've started my own channel and do in depth bible studies, scripture proofs for topics,prayer,and testimony! It's been wonderful! Ty for all you do

[@roseamos7359]

Thank you Mike for taking the time to put this together. I am trying to buy a new Bible and have been having this hunger for the most word-for-word translation. You have detailed them out. Truly appreciate your efforts. Blessings to you and your family.

[@RandomBoxingGuy]

The whole “The KJV actually SOUNDS like the Bible” argument always makes me laugh … Of course it does, if that’s what you grew up reading, then ya!

[@peterfox7663]

It's the translation Jesus used, of course

[@thomasmyers9128]

The original 1611 King James can even be understood by 99% of people… it’s in Old English (I think)….

[@voidsabre_]

@@thomasmyers9128 Not even close. Early Modern English, not Old or Middle English

[@thomasmyers9128]

@@voidsabre_ … yep.. that’s why I said ( I think)…. Still can’t be understood by most… Most KJV only Bible readers think they are reading the original…. but are reading a version written around the 1770’s ( Oxford’s edition)…. Thanks for the information…. Good Day

[@danielcaskey]

The KJV stands with the original texts. Many other translations have removed verses which is a big no no. A perfect example is the ESV. It has omitted 16 verses of the Bible. That should be very concerning. I'd recommend the Thomas Nelson reference edition. It is red letter with updated meaning references in the center bar of the page and capitalizes prophetic sayings in the NT and on and on. It really sticks to the original translation as best as the English language can and includes all verses from the original texts. I'm concerned that people point at King James only'ists as though that's an issue but they don't have any concern (or clue maybe) of the omitted verses and also changed verses.

[@Ror4JC]

Great video Mike! In fact, this is about the third time I've watched. A few years ago, I started buying Bibles from all of the main translations. I accepted Christ reading the NIV84, and as a result, my wife and four children also read it, albeit the NIV2011. I agree with paraphrase Bibles also, especially The Living Bible. But I will say this, I believe my father, before passing in 1995, accepted Christ by reading The Living Bible. I still have that Bible he read, and his notes in it lead me to believe he accepted Christ, and I am so grateful for that.=)

[@philisbramlett6890]

Your commentary was so respectful to all the official interpreters of each of these bibles , their efforts, their level of education and standing . I pray they respect you in the same manner as you have given them ; dignity respect and the love in Jesus Christ for which it was intended . Finally , Thank you for your suggestions , it was worth the educational wait ❤ You have been such an inspiration to many of us older adult kids in Christ . We appreciate learning about the G, B & U too ❤ too !

[@Seasonedwithsalt68]

Just ordered a NET translation, go cold feet and searched your channel to get your opinion! So glad to have found this video! Thank you for making this...it is SO helpful!

[@nan5650]

I have been watching you a lot and love what you have to say ..Thank you for your effort time and attention

[@thechatteringmagpie]

The Message quotations come over as a stand up comedy script.

[@thechatteringmagpie]

@Jesus Is King: "Nobody robs a bank when everyone is watching." Then Psalm 11, come on. It's a joke text, embarrassing to hear.

[@thechatteringmagpie]

@Jesus Is King You think that the translation of Psalm 11 in the Message Bible is perfect? Really?

[@thechatteringmagpie]

@Jesus Is King You are trolling.

[@irisbristow2977]

The king James English was generally the language of the people of that time. As a first ever Christian in my family, I got converted at 20 years old and used the king James for over 40 years. I now use the NLT for my devotional time but I use the NKJV for memorising and to enjoy the beauty of the language and prose and poetry etc. I never doubted the deity of The Lord Jesus Christ at any time in the 40 years I used the King James. My mother who came to Jesus when she was 72. She was almost illiterate and yet read the KJV for the rest of her life and loved it and she grew in her faith. Remember we don’t generally change old classics, Ustinov, Pliny, Jane Austin, Wordsworth, Dickins, well I could go on…..you get the picture. Those who have tried to update say Jane Austin have totally ruined it, same with Shakespeare. So the KJV has been understood by many generations, even many working class people, which is my background, and they grew in their love, knowledge and obedience to Christ and their understanding of living to please God. Of course, the most early version of KJV is too difficult for many but hey….the message translation is so lacking of any impact upon my heart or mind but if it helps others..go for it. But for me and I am a Pentecostal I say LONG LIVE THE KJV/NKJV.

[@Nadiahope7]

This is so helpful. Thank you Mike as always. Your ministry blesses me. Grateful for your teachings to deepen my faith.

[@r.a.jackson7654]

I've spent the last 22 years in King James only churches. Thank you for your videos!

[@sarahs7751]

Me too, a long time. When you listen to the arguments they sound right and make me question if I should get rid of my other versions I have. ...until someone else comes against the kj only arguments and now I think I should read some of the others too. I'm so easily deceived.. I was even looking for a kj only church.

[@caleb4015]

@@sarahs7751 I go to a KJV only church, but I am not KJV at all. I have KJV bibles I take to church but I am an ESV/NASB reader. There is nothing wrong with modern translations. The KJV onlyist are usually very rude and hateful commenters. The whole concept is borderline cultic.

[@canadiankewldude]

@@caleb4015 Disagree.

[@JohnSmith-ir9wx]

@@caleb4015 absolutely agree KJV only is cultish

[@philiplewandowski2469]

@@canadiankewldude What do you disagree with and why?

[@laurapearson4689]

Loved this video! Thank you for this series and your hard work.

[@jessegandy7361]

I AM SUCH A NERD but i loved this sermon.

[@joshuaj.jackson]

Me too bro haha

[@wingbeat68]

Mike, i cannot thank God enough for finding your KZbin channel years ago. It has been a blessing! Wish you well and success

[@northshore1000]

Mike, Your videos make me reeeeeeaaaally miss my pastor from the church I originally attended when I was saved in the early 90s. Like you, his messages & teachings were highly informative, researched, clear, compelling, non-emotionally driven, scholarly-MEATY! That was when I lived in Southern California, but I had to move to Ohio because CA was just too expensive. Just moved to South Carolina, and will be trying to find a church. Haven’t had a pastor like the pastor I described, but hearing your videos, it’s like the times I enjoyed in the past. Thanks for posting your teachings!!!

[@wally1452]

I find this very helpful. I am a Christian 57 years now, since 1966. I love greatly the King James Bible, years later when ESV came along I use that a lot also. I read through the 1st one mentioned here many times, and used it "forever" in regular study and general reading...and since the ESV came out I have read through and use this as much as my favorite King James. I have the NASB and the Holman Bibles too and love them. The Holman has their references at the end of the Bible verses , VERY helpful for different reasons, a big one being more easy on my 79 year old eyes. I loved your video and brief but accurate description of the Bibles...I agree on all. Thank you. Blessings...I'll pass your excellent video on. w l

[@GrannysSacredSmokes]

Thank you for this video! The problem I have had over the years has been where Christian Ministers would say something about the Bible and various translations in a very negative way and the results has been that it has created a lot of doubts about the Bible so much so that it has taken my faith away from Christ Himself! If I can not have faith in the Bible How can I have faith in anything it says. It has taken a lot of persistence and work on my part to move past this and to be more careful to who I listen to.So again Thank you for your ministry that is building up my faith again and I am extremely thankful to God for ministers such as your self who has given me back my faith again!

[@roguesinger247]

I love this video! And I have recommended it many times. This is my third or fourth time listening through! This year I am trying to read through the NT in a ton of different translations. Thank you Mike for all you do!

[@melonhead122908]

Dear Mike, thank you for posting this. There are many people who ask what’s good or bad about any given translations and this lays it all out very nicely. Cheers!

[@JamesSnapp]

1:02:10 - Amen. "The Message" should never have been marketed as a Bible. And let's not give the consultants a pass on this. (I'm looking at you, Dr. Bock.) They should have spoken up a long time ago.

[@samnikole1643]

James Snapp The whole point is this! Publish crap books - get people to leave the faith and the world to discredit the bible as a historical document. Satan at work as always.

[@HotelCharliHill]

@@samnikole1643 Totally. Message is satanic. Who is Eugene Peterson really???

[@samnikole1643]

Hotel CharliHill Who the heck is Eugene ? lol

[@HotelCharliHill]

@@samnikole1643 Eugene Peterson wrote the message. The question is who is he REALLY? He claims to be a theological professor and born again believer, but his book is so filled with luciferianism that it's hard to fathom that.

[@samnikole1643]

Hotel CharliHill Can you say Jesuit.

[@russellstanley8100]

I’m a KJV kind of person but I’m not opposed to learning about it’s faults. I’m of the belief we must always question and research without preconceived notions. Thank you for this teaching.

[@myrajackson-rain5483]

Thank you so much for all of this information. It was clear, easy to understand...& answered questions I’ve had most of my life. I hope it’s ok, I transcribed this message & gave it to several people I love. They needed the info, too. I gave you, and God, all the credit. Thank you again. Take care...God bless...

[@wayiqra4399]

This was insanely helpful. Thank you for putting in all the work to give us that information.

[@mwj9080]

I truly appreciate this. Thank you for providing the Body of Christ with this information. The only thing I would suggest is when you're speaking about the NASB be sure to mention its ancestor, the 1901 ASV and then the 1977 NASB of which the '95 NASB is the update. Next the RSV also had a '71 update. Lastly, the NIV was first completed in '78 and then slightly revised in '84.

[@ankithdanielrajkumar2341]

Amazing study on this contentious subject. Thanks Mike for illuminating us about various translations. The one on The Message was hilarious !

[@harrykennedy6603]

I come from an almost KJV onlyist church, and have been trying to get into an easier to read translation, but like you said I felt so much superstition around it! Found this so helpful, thank you very much for doing it! God bless!

[@QactisX]

I recomment NET, HCSB, ESV, and NASB. You can't go wrong with any of those 4 they're all very accurate and very easy to understand

[@moisesfrias1117]

HE IS wrong, as a JW I can use ANY bible translation EXCEPT my UGLY one, and prove exactly the same thing I believe, when you have the knowledge it doesnt matter the translation, but know all the verses that lead to reach certain understanding of what the bible teach....and I can prove that , choose the topic and the translation you want...and message me

[@benconnelly486]

Splendid! I was a Mormon for a quarter century and this seems like a helpful approach to starting over with the Bible. Thank you.

[@glenconverse1327]

What a breath of fresh air! Thank you, Mike......

[@lucianov.perdomo5075]

Started with NIV but will be getting NASB for in depth study. I think it’s good to have 1 for easy reading and general enjoyment, and 1 for Bible study and accuracy

[@Michael0841]

@lucinov Using ONLY the NIV and the NASB, please post the Father's and Son's Names which is eternal life (John 17:3). Will let you know that the Son never walked this earth as Jesus. There isn't a letter "J" or sound in Hebrew. We have a Jewish Savior . . . who doesn't have an English name. Thus, there's only one Name for Salvation (Acts 4:12).

[@davidpetersonharvey]

​@@Michael0841the name for Jesus in Greek is itself a transliteration of a shortened form of Joseph. If the apostle and early church fathers had no problem with translations and we have no command from God otherwise, then you are creating division unnecessarily, doing the legalistic work of Satan instead of the unification of all under God's love.

[@Michael0841]

@@davidpetersonharvey Your comment totally contradicts correctly interpreted Scriptures. You won't find the name Jesus or the pagan title God nowhere. Elohim is the proper title for God and is plural: it represents the Father, Son, and Ruach (Spirit) are ONE. The Son was never named Joseph. We both no that . . . so at best that's a serious mistake. Acts 4:12 makes it crystal clear that He has only One Name. Consequently, the Son spoke His Hebrew Name to Shaul (he was never called Paul) from Heaven and this is emphasized 3 times in Acts for a reason (read Acts 9:15). Consequently, the Name Shaul spoke to Greeks and Jews was YAHSHUA. That Name was used to fulfill Matthew 28:19, which is another verse seriously misinterpreted by men. That verse is erroneously recited by MOST churches when baptizing people when it doesn't contain the Name. If you want to follow the traditions of men and the numerous flaws in their teachings then go ahead. However, if you truly want to seek the Truth, your Heavenly Father will reveal it to you.

[@Michael0841]

@@davidpetersonharvey If this comment doesn't get deleted, visit KnowHIS Name (the space should have a dot)

[@tracykarol]

@@Michael0841Friend, why nitpick on someone because they use two Bible translations you personally dislike? I’m pretty sure we could find fault with some passages in any translation. They are translating from different languages over hundreds of years. If you’re KJV only, I think you’re missing out but I’m not going to attack a brother because of his (or her) choice of translation. I first read the NIV, NLT, and now compare between NASB, ESV, NKJV, KJV, NIV, and even the Catholic I grew up with (but never read) to see the variations. Sometimes I’ll look at 8 different versions of a sentence to see how each translates it. If we force someone or try to shame them into reading what we think is best, we come across as judgmental about things we shouldn’t be. It’s not sin or salvation at risk. Let’s love each other and build each other up in Christ. That’s what I believe Jesus would do. And I’m paraphrasing, but Paul said he became different things to different people when witnessing. Some of us come to Christ through shows on TV that lead us to scripture. If a new believer approaches and we are not willing to help them learn wherever they are, how are we a light? Isn’t that more important than the Bible translation someone picks? Especially since most who grow in Christ advance to more meaty versions. We have to call out sin. But we don’t have to call out our every preference as perfect. I am not trying to be offensive, rather to remind myself and others that not everything is a fight. God bless!

[@69telecasterplayer]

Very good presentation. Much needed. Thanks

[@sodkasjunkie]

Thanks Mike for explaining this so clearly. I have heard others talk on this topic, and struggled to get a simple way of understanding how translations differ and why

[@jack8162]

I am in the KJV only camp, and the ministry I am under prefers that version due to what you described, the beauty and essence of god's word. We have to look up definitions of some words at times, but that requires effort and it is always effort well spent in my opinion. Jesus obviously did not speak in old english, but as an English only speaker, having to put in effort to understand certain passages by re-reading them over and over at times really pulls me in to a place where I am actively trying to receive the message, and that is a beautiful thing.

[@maxxiong]

What you describe doesn't sound like KJV only in the way the term is actually used

[@allangibson8494]

The problem is the deliberate changes and distortions imbedded in the KJV to suit the prejudices of the commissioning patron - King James.

[@JoJo-wq7uz]

A very loving, straightforward and truthful fact based teaching on a subject that causes lots of confusion among Christians. God bless you brother! 🙏🙏🙏

[@XwynntopiaX]

This was a super thorough and super interesting talk about the difference bible versions, thank you!

[@malcolmhayes9201]

I often battle between the ESV, NASB 95, and the CSB. Those are like the best translations on the market in my opinion 😂 it’s honestly hard. Esv is great for its combination of poetic literality. It does everything the KJV does well in a modern Bible translation! It’s hard to beat. CSB is the absolute perfect balance between literal translation and dynamic translation. It’s like the ESV and the NIV had a baby. It’s honestly one of the single most beautiful translations I’ve ever read. NASB 95: is amazing for its goal of literality! It is beyond literal to a fault and it actually is cool to me. It’s changed how I see and understand scriptures due to this fact. *sigh* perhaps I’ll just have to continue being that one guy who always lugs multiple bibles around

[@Matthew-307]

Get a “parallel Bible”, two versions in one book

[@mrs.garcia6978]

Get an app on your phone like YouVersion that will do 4+ versions on same screen at once? Thanks for the descriptions I’ll check out the 2 versions you mentioned I never heard of

[@masbucket3083]

having multiple translations is good because differing translations have deferring purposes

[@dantombs5697]

@@Matthew-307 yes and check out bad versions next to the KJV. Like 2 sam 21:19 error in most modern versions... wrong guy killing Goliath? or leaving out "and fasting" in Mark 9:29 of the word "he" instead of "God" in 1 Tim 3:16, and my very favorite Luke 4:4 - seals them as a hack bible. Think the devil just might have another reason for altering God's Word, dear brother.

[@dantombs5697]

@@Matthew-307 like what would be the purpose of the 2 sam 21:19 error in most modern versions... wrong guy killing Goliath? or leaving out "and fasting" in Mark 9:29 of the word "he" instead of "God" in 1 Tim 3:16. Think the devil might have another reason for altering God's Word, dear brother.

[@yvanstill2276]

I am fussy, used NKJV since it came out, could never find anything else I felt hit the spot. I teach from it, and appreciate as you said, the nuances. I want something authoritative, (I do NOT mean authorized by King James! who cares!) So this was VERY WELL DONE MIKE WINGER. Thanks for spending the time, and having a heart for truth, and being balanced, and not emotional. ps. that was 2016, here we are, 2018, and lost my last bible, using my wife's NKJV. And online resources with numerous versions, but I end up leaning NKJV often.. not always, but often. So, come on Mike, which did you settle out for as your go to bible . . ESV,, Nkjv, Hcsb?

[@jimmyreinstein9993]

He often reads from the ESV in his videos.

[@jwatson181]

Esv is probably my favorite.

[@jamesreed5678]

H E double hocky sticks NO to the HCSB. It's horrible. It has also has been replaced by the CSB, which dumped most of the nonsense of the HCSB.

[@GorditaSlim]

I really appreciated this video. I use the KJV for general use (reading and study) but I also apreciate several other versions as references. The Scriptures 2009, ESV, NIV, NMV, even the Orthodox Jewish Bible has been helpful at times. Overall I watch out for anything that completely changes or seems to distort the overall messages of the Gospel, God's Word and claim to be "one of a kind" like the TPT and NWT for example.

[@nicholascelia3692]

I've been struggling so much to find a good study Bible, thank you thank you thank you so much for this content

[@sarabaldwin5598]

Thank you for this video Pastor Mike! I’ve been a Christian my whole life (22 years old), was raised in a non denominational church and grew up reading the NIV. I never really thought twice about translations and wasn’t very informed on all the different ones Ava I Le. I’ve recently become very interested in translations as I’ve grown so much in my faith and my reverence for God’s word. I got a “She Reads Truth” CSB Bible as a gift and really enjoy it so far. I haven’t seen anything alarming, but would love to know your thoughts if you have time to look into this version! Thanks again and God bless you Pastor!

[@louttimepalmer]

CSB is just an updated version of the HCSB which I believe he covers in this video.

[@yeoshaoqi9824]

Thank you Pastor Winger for this sermon!! I was part of the KJV only crowd becos i felt really uncomfortable about missing verses and different words even for the underlying greek manuscripts. But this sermon really shed some insights on bible translations and is really comprehensive. Thank you for the sermon!

[@johnrogers7620]

copyright laws.. change the words.. change the message.. change the message change your god.. the first visible church was 300 years after the master walked the face of the earth.. chatholics and by extension protestants will never hear the truth.. 2 corn 4:4

[@lelendkendrickmd4393]

No Jesus Christ died for our sins and gave us redemption By accepting Jesus’s free gift of salvation grace thru faith Jesus was god on earth in form of man He established Christianity As Paul said confess with your mouth and believe in your hear Jesus is lord and savior and at that very moment you receive his holy spirt and will spend eternity with him in heaven Jesus did not establish a religion No religion saves Only accepting Jesus Christ as lord and savior The kjv was written so all could read the Bible He used William Tyndall Who died translating the Bible to English Burned at stake by Catholics King James was a Christian and used 3 sets of Christian scholars and they came together and ironed out differences Kjv is written not of man but thru men god choose So I feel god used them to do this Never saw anything not god inspired Do you trust modern scholars Surely their are false scholars as their was false prophets My trust absolutely in Jesus Christ and savior Only Jesus saves No religion And what more information do you need When saved we have Jesus who is the propietion between Us and god Who needs a scholar We can pray to god directly For any awnser we need No scholars Love you brother in Jesus Christ lord and savoir And Baptist are not Protestant We never had anything to do with Catholics In fact Catholics Persecuted Christians

[@masbucket3083]

@@johnrogers7620 arrogance in a comment

[@thomaswagner9875]

Just found this video and enjoyed learning about the various translations. I have studied the JWs and learned about their NWT and gotten advise on how to witness to them. Currently I use two different Bibles. I have a HCSB for bible studies, while my Sunday church bible is a parallel KJV/NIV bible so I can compare the two translations. Sometimes I get better understanding from one of the translations and sometimes from the other, so I think it helps balance out the two translations. Your videos have recently started popping up and I have subscribed to your channel. I appreciated your balanced discerning presentations.

[@libertylarochelle8517]

Thank you Mike. I have been wanting to know which translation to purchase. This overview helped me a lot.

[@JamesSnapp]

Mike, If I may, I'd like to respond point-by-point to clarify some things you say in this talk. If this seems critical, please don't take it personally but as a response to your sources rather than to you. 3:49 -- The KJV NT was not based on just six Greek manuscripts. That's how many Erasmus had available to him in Basel when he compiled the first edition of the Textus Receptus. Bur research on the New Testament text did not start in Basel; nor did it end there. Erasmus had studied other manuscripts, and he was informed about readings in some manuscripts he had not personally seen (by Lorenzo Valla's notes, for example). Erasmus continued to tweak his compilation in later editions and the more time passed, the more manuscripts' readings he gained access to. He even had a list of 365 readings from Vaticanus. Plus, in the 1500's, scholars such as Stephanus used additional manuscripts, citing manuscripts such as Codex Bezae and Codex Claromontanus, amd minuscule 69 and minuscule 6, and others. In addition, the scholars of the 1500's made abundant use of patristic citations, which in some cases are so extensive (such as in Augustine's writings) that it is almost like having the writer's exemplar in hand. The KJV's translators had access to all that previous work -- the Complutensian Polyglot, Erasmus' compilations, Stephanus' annotated editions, Beza's editions, versional research, and more.

[@pappycool]

Still, that dies not necessary make the KJV the best version.

[@philipchaisson]

Pastor Mike in 2016: "I'm not coming back to this topic." Little did he know...

[@patrickambler749]

I really appreciated that. Thank you Mike and God bless you.

[@leighscott5408]

Thanks Mike - I'm a relatively new Christian (7 years) and have used 4 translations and have really enjoyed the NLT illustrated version showing me about the culture of the time. After listening today, I think I will have to "re think" my choice and have another "GO to" version as my first choice with the NLT as a second as you have advised. I have shared your YOUTube sermons and blogs with my friends and have downloaded your Bible Thinker Ap. You really speak to me and I am working my way through your series to supplement my own Pastor's sermons. I would love to hear you speak on 1 Timothy 2 - women teaching men, but I'm not sure if you'll ever read this comment.

[@jamesreed5678]

He says he's conservative, therefor he would be against woman pastors and elders. But, he's not so conservatives I'm guessing, that he'd be against women deacons.

[@DavidIstre]

Thank you so much for this video! If you were impressed with the HCSB, I really think you'll love the CSB. I have brought the CSB into my core (NASB, CSB, and NIV).

[@AdamSmith-ec5nv]

Aren't they the same?

[@BigLewBBQ]

Adam Smith CSB is a 2017 update of the HCSB.

[@DavidIstre]

@@AdamSmith-ec5nv No, they are not. The CSB is technically an "update" to the HCSB, but the translation methodology and changes that were made are significant. Any relationship between the two is purely historic.

[@psalm27gg]

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[@lanceharsh7025]

knew you were Calvary Chapel based. lovin your services greetings from Calvary Chapel Aurora Co. God Bless

[@atoz4399]

Great video. I had no idea on on why so many translations exist. Thank you. Keep up the great work!

[@philipchaisson]

I use the NET frequently every since first watching this video about a year ago. Great study resource. Thanks Mike!!

[@josephcastillo1974]

BTW, good job with this message. I think I've watched it 2 times already.

[@Seneacor]

I know that this is a very old video, but it's got helpful information. Would you consider updating the description with the versions discussed and the bookmarks for each version. I would like to use this for reference and to share and I think it would make it helpful when sending to others.

[@MsMyoung1]

This was very helpful. Thank you so much.

[@hannahbaker3080]

Love. This. Video. This was really well done! I have rather recently found the HCSB and fell in love with the Word in a new way. I love how they say Yahweh, that was what intrigued me the most when I first bought it.

[@k-dogg9086]

Unfortunate and sad that HCSB is so rare. I'd too love a copy. That version and its follower CSB had a very interesting translation for Daniel's description of the abomination of desolation that no other translation or version has. "And the abomination of desolation will be on a wing of the temple," in Daniel 9: 27. The Brenton Septuagint and the Berean Study Bible also has unique translations.

[@k-dogg9086]

Here the Brenton Septuagint translation says, "And one week shall establish the covenant with many: and in the midst of the week my sacrifice and drink-offering shall be taken away: and on the temple shall be the abomination of desolations; and at the end of time an end shall be put to the desolation." The HCSB says, "He will make a firm covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and offering. And the abomination of desolation will be on a wing of the temple until the decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator.” The Berean Study Bible says, "And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” The NASB says, "And he will confirm a covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come the one who makes desolate, until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, gushes forth on the one who makes desolate.” We know where it will be for Jesus said that it'll be standing where it ought not to be, and Paul also states the same: in the temple. Its a small detail but interesting.

[@thefreshprince81]

Hi Mike, love your videos and thank God for you as I have learnt a lot from you so many thanks for that. I just wondered what your thoughts were on the Tree of Life Version?

[@ambassador_in_training]

Mike, thank you for the video. I wanted to ask you to comment on this very important point: the early church fathers do include the famous Mark 16:9-20, JN 7:53-8:11, 1Jn 5:7. This demonstrates that that the early church did use those passages as Scripture. Thus, IMO, Textus Receptus manuscripts in the KJV and my Russian Synodal version and other versions based on Textus Receptus didn't actually add these verses, but rightly included them as the oldest tradition in the church. The Westcott & Hort text came in later than the early church fathers and didn't include those passages mentioned above. The early church fathers predate the Westcott & Hort Alexandrian and Vatican manuscripts. I have gotten this point from this brother. I like that he doesn't state that the KJV is the inspired Word of God, but the Greek manuscripts are the God-breathed Word of God. Watch "#9004 Textual Criticism: Why The Textus Receptus (Byzantine) Is Older Than Westcott & Hort Text..." on KZbin kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJTEaHVmhLdgo6s

[@Laura_B__]

This video was extremely helpful and informative. Thank you so much.

[@sherry3547]

This was very informative and helpful!! Thanks!!

[@WgtLoss]

Hey Mike, Its been a few years since this video, can you go over the ISV and CSB? When you can please

[@aok6989]

The NIV 1984 can still be found. In my opinion it is much better than 2011. I have bought many copies so that it will available to my children's children!! I read the Bible every year and swap up the translations and find blessings in them all (never read The Message, NWT, NIRV or ISV and years since I read The Living Bible). I have also read The Jewish Bible and recommend it. Thanks for a great review.

[@krama017]

this is a vid i can keep going back to over and over. thank you

[@BlessedGrant]

This lecture… message… lesson… helped me a lot… thank you so much

[@robinette2430]

Just curious what version you ended up using? I just did a 4 week long adult study on this topic at our church and it went great. Thanks for this video

[@JamesSnapp]

10:55 - Regarding the claim that there is not the equivalent of thee and though in Greek: While Greek does not have special pronouns for formal addresses, the terms "thee" and "thou" and "thine" are in the KJV (and in other early English versions, and in the 1881 Revised Version) to differentiate from plural pronouns ("ye" and "you" and yours"). In this sense, there is a level of precision in the Greek text that is conveyed by the use of these English pronouns. The singular/plural distinction is unfortunately lost in modern English, except in dialects which employ "y'all," y'uns," etc.

[@christopherlawson4592]

Yes the singular and plural you exist in hebrew greek and other languages such as Arabic and farsi

[@ImCarolB]

Also, the use of thee and thour in the KJV, those pronouns were used when speaking to family and friends, while a singular you is formal, for those who are not close to us or to indicate a distinction of class or social rank. I don't use the KJV, but I do wish people knew that the pronouns are used to show God's love for us, not formality.

[@rayrose6937]

In Exodus 20 the giving of the Ten Commandments. Moses uses singular second person pronouns. You and your are all singular second person pronouns. The y’s are not plural .

[@TeacherGuy51]

I love checking out the different translations…I often sit in my recliner, late at night with 4 Bibles opened to the same scriptures…just love that !!!! HOWEVER, at age 72, and being "in church" most of my life, I discovered on more than one occasion some of the rudest, narcissistic people in our congregation were those Bible nerds who took great pride in knowing scripture, showing off their extensive library of "spiritual " material…. My point ? I love having 12 Bibles but if I don’t lead my life in such a way that is pleasing to my creator…..all is for naught. Have a great day/night everyone !!

[@JerseyCity478]

This is my third time watching this, and I’m enjoying it more now than I did the first couple of times

[@bradleywillcox2442]

I was hoping the AMP amplified Bible was going to be talked about. I still have mixed feelings with it.

[@52msdiane]

Me too!

[@wizardkidR1]

The AMP is mostly the NKJV with annotations. It’s mostly verse for verse the New King James with annotations to the text. If you’re looking, try the Good News Bible.

[@judyswiderski2682]

@@wizardkidR1 Amplified false. Seek the truth. Moder translation quotes Jesus in air. Their Jesus says I am not going to the festival. John 7:8. (Not me, not going). The Jesus of the Antioch manuscript Authorized Version says, I am not going up yet to the feast. (No. Not now, not yet.) He waits and then goes. No lie! No CONFUSION! SEEK THE TRUTH. Proverbs 13:13.

[@wizardkidR1]

@@judyswiderski2682 I appreciate your reply. What does the version you're studying say in Deut:32:8-9? Sons of Israel or Sons of God? I've been reading the Amplified & NKJV side by side and I've found they're mostly similar but I confess I haven't gotten as far as a comparison in Proverbs 7; ditto for John. Hence the recommendation to use the Good News Bible or the ESV. However, given the tools available to me now, the Amplified has been great when it comes to understanding the context of the Bible's writers; seeing as I'm geeking out over the Old Testament. I'm pretty certain that if we applied the same criteria for verse to verse equivalency across most versions of the Bible, we'd arrive at the conclusion that most were wrong, even evil if they didn't apply across the board. There's always a hint of the translator's world view. Thankfully, we have the tools to compare across versions and pray for guidance so we're certain. Does it make sense in the context of the writers' Ancient Near Eastern worldview and salvation theme of the Bible?

[@iicecourt00]

Zoey Kitty NASB, CSB and NLT are fine translations. You can even use those to compare to the KJV

[@DaveRoberts308]

I personally use the NLT as my daily reading version with a fallback to the NASB when I want something that is strongly word for word.

[@titicoqui]

very thoughtfully presented so reverent authoritative and humble at the same time

[@laurenstell8087]

When you were talking about translators it made me laugh because i had a similar experience in Ecuador on a missions trip. Our pastor was preaching and the missionary was translating. He said "spring in your step" and the missionary stopped for a second and was trying to explain that idiom in Spanish. The crowd was laughing at the situation and the pastor was so confused! 😂

[@MCGaar]

This is a fair and accurate assessment! Great job defending God’s Word! My favorite is NKJV and CSB but I love reading the NIV.

[@akhiker01]

so Noah which ones did he recommend? i can’t finish listening to this right now but will later.

[@johnrockwell5834]

Google the "Evaluations of Gender language NIV 2011" The NIV 2011 retains most the false translations of the TNIV Gender Neutral translation which overwrites so much theology as to alter Christianity into a more PC version which is contrary to the original text.

[@johnrockwell5834]

@@martinbaker7032 The NIV 2011 translation keeps almost all the Gender Neutral Translations of the TNIV. In contradiction to actual manuscripts. So as to accommodate the spirit of this age.

[@cmartin999]

59:40 Reckless, like im the same sense that God's love is reckless? 😂😂 jk I love the clarity you present in your videos, may the Lord continue to bless your ministry!

[@28jes91]

This is so interesting! Thank you!

[@Carnelian21]

Extremely helpful. I study out of ESV and I listen to NIV ok my Dwell bible app. I'm interested in NET and NASB for study purposes. I think ESV does such a nice job of being more literal but still sounding beautiful. I think verse memorization with NASB would be really hard.

[@JMz685]

Good Video Brother Mike! Thanks for the helpful video.

[@dawnh8185]

This is a great video.. I was part of KJV only years ago.. Thank you for this video, the influence and doubt it causes for all other versions was very hard to overcome. I have loved the ESV for many years now..

[@moisesfrias1117]

HE IS wrong, as a JW I can use ANY bible translation EXCEPT my UGLY one, and prove exactly the same thing I believe, when you have the knowledge it doesnt matter the translation, but know all the verses that lead to reach certain understanding of what the bible teach....and I can prove that , choose the topic and the translation you want...and message me

[@ryandb525]

Thank you Mike. Praise God for the clarity.

[@LIGHTBEARER4JESUS777]

Thank you so much. I have become an avid listener and have gained a lot from your teaching. Thanks for all your work in defining the good, the bad and the ugly in Bible translation. I was wondering what your opinion is of the Amplified Bible. I think the issue is the lack of discipleship in understanding the Bible and how to study it. I was lead to the NASB from day one and someone discipled me and taught me how to study the world get a concordance and Vine's dictionary and learn from the text. 25 years later I have been in the Word every day and now have Bible software with a study library of 1000 books lol I thank God someone took me aside and taught me one on one and now I have discipled others for over 30 years. Every believer should find someone to mentor and disciple and Christiandom would change in a might way. Thanks again Mike your the best!

[@krlanford]

I apologize if this question has already been asked, but I’m interested to know what translation you settled upon?

[@douglaszachary8318]

Dear Mike, Very Good job ! Very clear, concise, scholarly, balanced explanation of a very difficult and somewhat controversial subject. I look forward to hearing you some more. God bless your ministry. DZ

[@andytpatt]

I am a recent king james person based on the knowledge I have right now. However, being an intellectual person i am not so naive to assume I know everything and really enjoy continued learning and therefore appreciate your teachings. Thanks for all you do!

[@user-xg6uw2uy5o]

I liked the way he explained everything. It just saved me from running into the passion and the message.

[@cherylshipley7258]

Could there be an update to this video? Also, if possible, could your analysis of The Clear Word be included?

[@Bunfire123]

Clear word is a paraphrase Bible not intended for study.

[@jacobambos3885]

For 6 years, my wife and I have been leading an entire read-through of the (Protestant) Bible, starting at the beginning and going cover-to-cover. The joke has always been that might not get to Revelation before it happened. (We were just about to start Revelation when COVID hit, and we haven't met in a year.) Anyway, I encouraged people to bring different translations so we could compare them as we read. It has been very informative, mainly in that we're still getting the same meaning time and again.

[@timothyspatharos3755]

Great job -Thank you! I needed to hear this

[@user-bv1ss5nj9b]

Thank you, Mike. I get frustrated when people only promote one translation. I wanted an objective assessment of several translations so I could decide which I wanted to read. And boy, did you deliver with this video! 😆👍✝️ I've used mostly the NKJV for the past 30 years, but considering what I've learned from Mike here, I'm going to order a copy of the CSB note taking Bible and the ESV study Bible for reference. I do love my NKJV but always found it helpful to see how others translated a verse when I dive in to study. I'm really looking forward to that CSB. Cheers! 😇🥳

[@GTechGirl92]

I enjoy the NLT very very much. In reading through the entire Bible for the first time, I used the NLT because it’s so easy and smooth to read, and it really made scripture feel more accessible for me as a first-time bible reader. I still use it when I’m breeze-reading, and use the ESV in parallel for deeper studies and commentaries. I’ve found that - using the ESV as a baseline for accuracy - the NLT is very faithful / trustworthy / grounded throughout even though it’s more interpretive. Glad to hear your thoughts on it, Pastor Mike!