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@mishaguevara2 жыл бұрын
These mafias and gangs who are let to do as They want, would Not be tolerated in countries with functioning police and military forces. I come from Brasil, where these criminals are hunted down by the law, with No mercy, no consideration of Their human rights, for They have none.
@rushmore1002 жыл бұрын
The rise in crime and growth of organized crime is the real concern. Even if we get a great government tomorrow these fellas ain't going nowhere.
@bryanvassilatos14692 жыл бұрын
i agree, you only have to look north to see the devastating results....
@goread55442 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@colinpeck8257 Жыл бұрын
Organized crime? No its called a black gov. .
@Hubrisza2 жыл бұрын
If the ANC cannot be unseated in South Africa, South Africa will cease to exist. So yes, secession is a real possibility.
@Predikant2 жыл бұрын
I am astounded to see vocal critics of the Apartheid government harshly opposed to the regime that replaced it. What were they thinking?
@davidroux79872 жыл бұрын
When apartheid was removed the problem that it had solved re-emerged. Black racism.
@DuneSurfer2 жыл бұрын
A few years ago, I would have said other places are 'bland' compared to SA. However, happy to be bland, move forward, be safe, and live in South Africa under the ANC. I live abroad, support Orania and self-determination and will push it abroad working in the shadows if you want to call it that. Self-determination is our future. I support the choice of the rest who want to live in a failed state. However, I firmly believe that if you're in an abusive relationship with an abusive partner, you part your ways. I am friends with people of other cultures, but closer friends with people of all races that share my western values. Africa is a different mindset, the world still needs to wake up as everything is done through western lenses. TIA
@shafiyaalgiquadra11052 жыл бұрын
Seems the western ways are crumbling...
@bryanvassilatos14692 жыл бұрын
I sometimes wonder why people want to remain sooo polite,,,its time to call a spade, a spade. Theft is theft, incompetence is just so, enough is enough cuff all this effing politeness.
@copperbath2 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of sense in this take.
@goread55442 жыл бұрын
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 if the west is crumbling then South Africa is imploding into the depths of hell
@goread55442 жыл бұрын
PEACE is priceless 🙌🏻 No constant fear for your life, no helplessness, far less stress. Regardless - there are SO many places more interesting & exciting than SA (for all the right reasons), full of innovation, culture, history, architecture that you can marvel at & enjoy because it’s actually safe to walk on the street, public spaces snd nature it’s safe to visit, and free. If you love the “excitement” of the world’s highest femicide & rape stats good luck to you.
@nicopohl20602 жыл бұрын
No modern country can survive with a 24/7, country-wide and 4-hourly load shedding cycle which right at this moment translates into a 50% power supply capacity and no stable supply outlook whatsoever.
@joedennehy3862 жыл бұрын
That's the least of your problems, your land will be confiscated
@nicopohl20602 жыл бұрын
@@joedennehy386 You're behind the times, wise guy, just like your country, we're already owned by the Globalists.
@terencefranks16882 жыл бұрын
... the answer is,for as many who are capable of doing so,is to move off the national grid & resort to their own form of home power generation,especially in the rural areas & even some in the urban areas,who have the afforability & will to do so ! ....
@nicopohl20602 жыл бұрын
@@terencefranks1688 Amen.
@MrRandomcommentguy2 жыл бұрын
South Africa will end up exactly as was envisioned by Separate Development. There was just a 30 year pause in the programme.
@dannyarcher63702 жыл бұрын
What are countries other than international apartheid?
@Palmstreet-u7x2 жыл бұрын
the country went to the dogs when de Klerk sold out the white people in 1992 and the NP , and the day the kicked out PW Botha, never trust a Boer,
@ilsevanheerden49762 жыл бұрын
So happy to live in my "boring" European country. Shook the dust of this place off my shoes 21 years and never looked back. I have absolutely LOVED living in every country I have lived in and looking forward to my island home in Madeira soon, where the is basically no crime, just beauty and sunshine. RIP south africa
@Wither50002 жыл бұрын
Nandos makes Portuguese good.
@terencefranks16882 жыл бұрын
... Europe has it's problems too - the Ukraine situation has changed much worldwide,but especially so in Europe - a possible long exceptionally cold winter,combined with starvation is on the horizon .....
@marcusmoonstein2422 жыл бұрын
If you think an ANC government is bad, just wait until you see what an ANC/EFF coalition can do ...
@farazarif41862 жыл бұрын
Being a beautiful country on the world map, South Africa has the potential and energy to rise again, only an optimistic approach is needed.....
@terencefranks16882 жыл бұрын
... only if it's out of the hands of the ANC ....
@supersnapp Жыл бұрын
Google told me that SA improved amazingly since it was taken over by the ANC. Google has also told me to say that the best cities in the US are black majority cities and that other people seek to move to black run cities and that they are the most creative an innovative cities in the US.
@duffdingelmeyer7101 Жыл бұрын
Do you think there are other factors than race at play?
@supersnapp Жыл бұрын
@@duffdingelmeyer7101 Google deleted my response and threatened me even though all I did was present an explanation. You see, what is true does not matter to Google. After getting Covid 100% wrong, they see their role as censoring speech particularly when what speech contains evidence. So Google will not allow me to provide evidence because of Google. So lets change the subject a bit. What is your favorite black run city or country to visit, do you visit frequently and do you currently live there?
@garythompson-t3m Жыл бұрын
@@duffdingelmeyer7101 Are you able to mentally handle that information that you don’t want to think is true? Why not present some evidence to the contrary instead of asking an open ended questions like this?
@maseratifittipaldi2 жыл бұрын
"A robber Baron under whose wing you could cluster and hope he can beat the other robber Barons". This exactly describes our political party system - although Mr Johnson meant it in a totally different context. If South Africa is to survive as a country and a nation, we HAVE to abandon this gangster style political party system, which is based on populism and self-interest. The Executive should be experts in their field elected by the various fraternities. MP's should be rooted in their geographic constituencies. Parliament should be managed by an independent body. The President should be elected by the entire nation. Affiliation to any political party should be a disqualification to public office. We should base our future on quality - not populism.
@bryanvassilatos14692 жыл бұрын
Hear hear ! The nuisance is the proletariat that blindly follow and laud the theftocracy
@colinpeck8257 Жыл бұрын
Robber Barons!, you are kidding? at least RB had standards ANC are vindictive barbarians...
@aphiwemagaya32792 жыл бұрын
South Africa fell apart the moment it was colonized and apartheid played its music. We are 30 years in "democracy" that has been nothing either than criminal activity from governmental level. The country is in shambles not because of only corruption etc but also the aftermath of apartheid. We are now facing that music, quite sadly that things are still to get worse than they are now. Who can fix the world? No human has ever, then what makes you think there can be a human who can ever do so? The mindset of thinking that things can ever go right with humans feel so authorized and entitled is what killed and still kills every human today!
@AndrewChildsza2 жыл бұрын
Would be great to hear a long form discussion between the two of you.
@mandeemckenzie5372 жыл бұрын
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH EN FOKKOL WORD GEDOEN !!!!
@desirezwahlen60362 жыл бұрын
Get rid of the whole government and existing politicians and start with a bottoms up movement at municipal levels. Let the right people in their communities run them.
@nunugrant2 жыл бұрын
I think is is a terrible mistake to think that the wind down of this country will continue at the slow steady pace that we have seen so far. Look at other countries to see what does happen when at some point the social compact breaks. As long as there is hope people will usually still try and remain in the social compact, but as soon as life is harder than most can abide the social fabric tends to break with everyone at the same time. Venezuela is a good case in point. The day before the country descended into chaos was the same sort of day as the previous 365 days. Food and security in my view are the ones that eventually break this country. We also forget that Eskom is not about keeping the lights on, Eskom is about water, no Eskom no water. The middle class has there solar panels UPSs and generators but that does not remove you from the absolute dependence of Eskom. If things like truck attacks don't get brought under control food deliveries will be at risk. We cannot have parts of the country that are lawless and it as approved of by the government. The are starving so its OK. When will it not be ok, when we we are starving as well. We cannot keep rolling societal norms back with some form of its ok because they had a good reason. Society has rules and it is one rule for everyone. By allowing some to break the rules it is just an invitation for more to break the rules, going down that road will also end very badly. The cost of living cannot be sent higher and higher to cover up the inadequacies of the ANC. The cost of electricity is a case in point, Eskom has broken the system 4 times and 4 times the funding to fix it is from the users and every time so far they have managed to not only not fix the problem but in all cases have managed to make the original problem worse. Its not about the politics and the hope that will change, politics is not the solution, if it was this would have been corrected years ago. Hoping for some or other political solution that is going to catapult SA to some new dawn. Politicians the world over only have a single job, to make sure they or one of there cohorts is elected in the next election. its not about right or wrong. Coalitions fail continually in South Africa. Do people really think this will change when the ANC drops bellow 50 percent. Its not the big things that will cause problems its day to day life that will start the problems.
@terencefranks16882 жыл бұрын
..... when one thinks back to the old days of white rule & saffos of different skin colour were screaming for an end to white rule & now that it's here,one begins to think of the old saying : one should be careful about what one wishes for ! ....
@nikekruger52542 жыл бұрын
South africa will not survive but through secession it will thrive like cape exit
@Palmstreet-u7x2 жыл бұрын
the country went to the dogs the day the NP kicked out PW Botha, never trust a Boer, the Boers were not willing to live under British rule way back in the 1800s, they left the Cape Colony and tried to build their own country but could not succeed, then in the old end the British took over the whole country, the Boers then made their own country in 1961 but in 1992 gave it to the blacks, thinking black people can rule a country, now today the Boers are crying long tears for believing de Klerk and voted yes, never ever trust a Boer,
@ane69822 жыл бұрын
Regression is an euphemism. Anarchy is prevailing.
@michaellawson65332 жыл бұрын
SA has been going blackwards since 1994. So whats new ? The present state of things has always been expected and worse is to come. Nothing will change until the government and ruling party change and that wont happen for years to come and even if it does , it will take 20 years just to bring back the momentum we once had.
@joedennehy3862 жыл бұрын
It's too late, land confiscation is coming
@drea72952 жыл бұрын
I think communities have already started working together because there is no government to rely on .just in my area a few of us luck up litter in the nature reserve and surrounding parks social media groups are bringing neighbours together
@hudsonchalmers65042 жыл бұрын
Had e4xactly that in Zimbabwe, could only get maize meal via the ZANUPF chairman of the area at high cost, often never delivered
@hudsonchalmers65042 жыл бұрын
@@truth-Hurts375 Figure it out
@edwinreid9802 жыл бұрын
@@truth-Hurts375 play somewhere else you prick troll.
@whangjohnlizhao5502 жыл бұрын
The decline is by design. How & why is this happening? how did it happen in Zim? what does the decline serve? Being #1 on the GINI coefficient is going to have consequences The Banks & the Mining houses could have held the political parties to account. Mineral wealth is the only value that Globalists want... all other industries only serve the people and hence, the other industries are destined to decline...Agriculture, manufacturing, and tourism can be done elsewhere and the banks still win... only the minerals keep the mining sector in place. Who rules the Zulu? who affords the Zulu Royals? who finances the ANC & the EFF & the DA? - It becomes obvious that the decline is engineered and it has a purpose. Look at ZIm for example... Mugabe threatened farming and destabilised the sector until it collapsed, he did the same with manufacturing but he never seized mining or mineral-bearing lands, mining never lost a day in Zim. So the intelligentsia left Zim, effectively this removed intelligent opposition, controlling the little food that was left could prevent any popular uprising... South Africa has seen the education system collapse such that RSA is # 1 for maths & science illiteracy and university students cannot read or spell... there is no future opposition to white-collar crime -- This is the cornerstone of communist control. When the MSM will not report the truth and the MSM do not oppose corruption, when the judiciary consistently fail to bring corruption to justice then you know that this decline is more than just a greedy political party. Someone wants society to move to the Cape coast, I can see Gauteng disappearing with the Rand Water Board and I can see mass-migration to the coast - why?
@whangjohnlizhao5502 жыл бұрын
@@truth-Hurts375 Sarcasm? how about you counter or add?
@scallywag93922 жыл бұрын
perhaps a closer study of African Politics would reveal a number of answers. I lived in Rhodesia, Zimbabwe and South Africa, and I've also spent 15 years in Europe. It's about competency, not colour. It's about honesty not theft. It's about education not just letting people becoming ignorant!
@celestepenny3616 Жыл бұрын
These are my thoughts too. By design - and by tolerance, from e.g.MSM and D A..What is our Opposition opposed TO? No outrage at major, key moves by Govt. No public discussion, or any forums for it, on our perfect twin step march on road to Zim's decline. .Who's funding, coaching is backing them (now Russia and China, but for 30 years before it?) Who calls out Cyril on his hypocracies, lies and double speech ?And insists on ANSWERS ?
@celestepenny3616 Жыл бұрын
And what is the role of International Jewry, and their Bankers, Globalists, previously Socialist/Communist drivers of various countries' demise?
@whangjohnlizhao550 Жыл бұрын
@@celestepenny3616 I agree, If I had been a political leader in the DA, I would protest at each & every NPA office in the country, I would conduct sit-ins with members until justice happened... Inquiries without prosecutorial powers is an expensive and pointless exercise... The DA did ZERO when the Life Esidimeni massacre happened - 144 vulnerable people are dead and no one is in prison, the internet calls it a "scandal" - The DA has done Zero for the massacre at Marikana, 41 people murdered, the DA didn't even push the truth and the internet calls it a tragedy... and when the Co-Vidian lockdown was destroying Middle-class businesses, Alan Winde was visiting an empty Field Hospital with Cyril the Butcher of Marikana, cooing "My President, my president" Today we are #1 for unemployment and on the verge of a serious economic collapse... Assassins and BOSASA and no Justice... Cyril is teflon-coated, and the MSM are pushing non-stories... Our local SPCA hasn't been funded for 4 years, the local council is broken with corruption and the African aspect don't see animal-welfare as anything worth supporting. Pit-latrine toilets are still used in our local schools and we here loud speeches but the money never makes it far enough to build nice schools with working toilets... I have been into 3 SAPS stations in the past 10 years and they are filthy dirty... the SAPS don't care... the SAPS women care about weaves and nails and coke cola and KFC... the SAPS men are about corruption and bribes... I have yet to go into a black household that has a full bookshelf but they have bottles of Jamesons and Jonny Walker black label... -- I am on the last leg of getting Botswana residence... Gaborone doesn't have beggars, street-kids or crime or loadshedding. And the Tswana people are friendly and keen to improve through education... I got residence in 4 countries since 2019 but I love Africa, so I will settle in the Okavango... anyway, I could write a book with my tears...
@jamesgroenewald70942 жыл бұрын
So it's not Venezuela, but Somalia for us?
@alexdeliperi48142 жыл бұрын
What was that old SG remark once made by a certain head of state?
@Straightdeal2 жыл бұрын
Somehow someone must convince one Rob Hersov to take charge of the turnaround that is required in this country. He does not want to become involved in politics, and does not have to, to be the "turnaround champion". He has the right mindset and network infrastructure, and would be needed to get the opposition to align on roughly six main issues that he has eluded to in his discussions on BizNews, amongst others.
@lm_b50802 жыл бұрын
i take it you're a Trump supporter ...
@hendriklerou49022 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, community based solutions is the best plan to work together.
@Kholmi.282 жыл бұрын
Definitely seen that happening where I live. We're supplying our own street lights, fixing our own potholes, the municipality isn't doing a thing.
@hendriklerou49022 жыл бұрын
@@Kholmi.28 It is just sad how the ANC , Cadre deployments and not employing the right people has damaged our country. We pay taxes for the government to supply these things. But they would rather have double stories houses , driving Mercedes and having a fat bank account instead of doing what they are supposed to do. I really hope people vote these people out of power before South Africa is ruined.
@Kholmi.282 жыл бұрын
@@hendriklerou4902 imagine!! Our mayor has a BMW that also has to attempt dodging potholes and yet he hasn't done a thing to fix them. If this current state of the country doesn't get us all to make sure they're voted out, I'll be at a loss for hope.😥
@hendriklerou49022 жыл бұрын
@@Kholmi.28 I totally agree with you. They are trying so hard for us to focus on hating each other and dividing us based on color. We must unite and show in unity we won't tolerate this anymore. Your situation is happening everywhere in SA. I hope people wake up and vote them out. If people vote for the ANC again, then I will be convinced people are stupid or that they are happy with the situation.
@shafiyaalgiquadra11052 жыл бұрын
@@hendriklerou4902 isn't it about time to stop beating about the bush? Either get South Africans to believe there is no more racism in South Africa or get the DA to take an incredibly tough stance on racism so the majority can vote for them. Choose wisely, there may not be another chance.
@gregorydesleskine34132 жыл бұрын
Attard Montalto warned that things are likely to get far worse for load shedding before they start getting better, saying the South Africans should expect stage 6 to 8 load shedding between October and November and in February next year.
@languageEnthusiast_sjm Жыл бұрын
As a Zulu and a resident of KZN. I think it's better for my province to secede from South Africa.
@kuuku0062 жыл бұрын
You guys should have some hope. If Nigeria is still alive with all its bottom to last socioeconomic indicators and is not dying any time sooner, what about South Africa?
@anthonybarnard35272 жыл бұрын
Can you please send this vidio to Ramaposa please they do not understand what they are doing. They need to wake up.
@Kholmi.282 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I doubt this would change much he and his party don't seem to listen to valuable information.
@mandeemckenzie5372 жыл бұрын
Ramaphosa just says VOETSEK...NO HOPE!!!!
@erikakirkbride14852 жыл бұрын
They understand perfectly what they're doing, but they will persist, because they cannot let go of their ideology
@Kholmi.282 жыл бұрын
@@mandeemckenzie537😂 I'm laughing, but it's honestly not funny.😞
@mandeemckenzie5372 жыл бұрын
@@Kholmi.28 🤣🤣me too milani...even tho its true xxx
@pandoraalberts52672 жыл бұрын
The Indian community was castigated and vilified for its strong stand during the riots.
@wellinever15582 жыл бұрын
only by some. look who it was.
@Palmstreet-u7x2 жыл бұрын
South Africa is a third world country for years already,ask me as a South African, when i went and applied for a sickness insurance i was told" Sir you come from a third world country you do not qualify for the German state sickness insurance you must go private"
@basilrichards42052 жыл бұрын
Move to the old Republics is inevitable
@ericsmith14532 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that option went out of the window in 1993 by the final treachery in Mmabatho.
@travelsouthafrica50482 жыл бұрын
die vierkleur sal weer wapper
@markwinter75112 жыл бұрын
Just by the way KZN as an independent state would not feed itself at present levels of production.
@wellinever15582 жыл бұрын
look at what they did to the transkei. I kona
@MEGA1FILM Жыл бұрын
How did this happen?
@moses51592 жыл бұрын
Self determination or self rule is something that should have been considered way back before the hand over to the ANC. Could KZN become independent? I don't see any reason why not. The West Cape should go it alone as well. This would be a logical step for voter's to consider because it is clear that the ANC regime is imploding and them winning in 2024 is just going to make things worse. South Africa's voter's have proved that they are incredibly naive because they have returned the ANC since 1994 and always believed their promises. The same applies to voters pre 1994, by believing that the National Party would look after them in a new dispensation. "De Klerk sal dit nooit doen." I remember hearing this. Yet despite ample evidence that they were not very honest in their intentions and were going to hand over power to the ANC no matter what was the outcome of the negotiations. The one man one vote in a unitary state model was chosen and the rest is history.
@davidpennington56072 жыл бұрын
Don't be racist, we are in a state of Bantu Advancement and Rampant Africanacity
@gerhardlesch36152 жыл бұрын
Steel, vreet & teel.
@hairybear77052 жыл бұрын
'Can South Africa survive?' No! not under the present regime. I can't think of a single part of South African life which hasn't been wrecked in the last 28 years. We are "ruled" by incompetence, corruption and an inability to conduct even essential maintenance. Behold, the inevitable slide into full-scale Africanisation. How long before South Africa is indistinguishable from any other African state? The cream of South Africa has left......or seriously consider leaving, and that includes Blacks as well as Whites. Perhaps our best hope is a take-over by China!
@LouisF172 жыл бұрын
Its bad enough with current loadshedding BS, you forget the crime which is just next level. That is unacceptable.
@theohoniball9372 Жыл бұрын
In Europe each language group and culture has its own country. Or, every country has its own language, culture, cuisine, education, etc. In SA we have eleven official languages. Why not eleven countries?
@pacoguerilla3097 Жыл бұрын
SA will split into a federation of autonomous regions.
@christodebeer3645 Жыл бұрын
Criminals are making it impossible for the normal working class to keep their jobs, as they can't afford of being robbed, mugged or risk of losing their life's...😮
@robrae52922 жыл бұрын
Unity what's that? too many factions fighting for the richest turf. Mafia rules.
@mountainman91452 жыл бұрын
As a foreigner, who can only assess matters from a distance, it appears the peaceful transition to majority rule was only going to be a temporary measure. Perhaps the path to true multicultural nationhood cannot be inherited that smoothly and the nation needs a cleansing experience where the 'good citizens - of any colour' drive the 'bad citizens - of any colour' into obscurity and the country is rebuilt to become the true powerhouse of Southern Africa or indeed the whole of Africa.
@kentimmins91712 жыл бұрын
Won't happen...but a protracted death spiral involving increasing anarchy and violence!
@joedennehy3862 жыл бұрын
People will have their lands confiscated, and will flee. Food production will tank as people are forced off the land. You have seen it before in Zimbabwe
@Mankind01122 жыл бұрын
No division for South Africa 🇿🇦, if you want to divide us. Just leave SA in peace SADC to unite
@kennedymogomotsi69732 жыл бұрын
This guys always forget that the apartheid they miss and love so much will never happen again.they are just apartheid lovers they miss their olden days where services were catered for the minority.
@copperbath2 жыл бұрын
So what about services for all? You are conceding that poverty for all is the only outcome possible. And perhaps you are right. There are few...if any shining African models.
@ALeaud Жыл бұрын
Nah. SA is over. If the whites and Indians leave it's basically game over. SA will end up like anywhere else in Africa.
@chronikhavok34072 жыл бұрын
Anc can't do everything as citizens we must also chip in
@eipi5173 Жыл бұрын
Why should South Africa be different from any other African country?
@martin4819 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think SA can afford another ANC term. 10 hr load shedding, 35% unemployment, crumbling municipalities. The disenfranchised will revolt and anarchy will prevail.
@thommysides46162 жыл бұрын
This is what happens to a country when you have the inmates running the asylum!!!
@willem73992 жыл бұрын
Capexit asap. Verwoerd was right.
@BIFC216 Жыл бұрын
South Africa is the next Haiti
@mariowaldhausen33892 жыл бұрын
Take S. A. off the map. The anc has killed it.
@goread55442 жыл бұрын
That guy returning from Oz sounded like a trauma-bonded abuse victim
@kenbird8992 жыл бұрын
5 yearsv down the line and the Bantu population will have increased by at least 15 million - to join the 90% who have no employable skills. The economic groups are in decline. Tipping points of no return have been reached in every other sub Saharan country and SA must over extra reached , if not done so already. Muslims deploy a parallel banking system that is outside the GDP, so pointless factoring them in as a plus., Therefore not even a miracle will help. The population will outstrip resources very soon.
@sparksmacoy2 жыл бұрын
Are South Africans addicted to drama or something? Take the hint and leave while you still can.
@micasa64932 жыл бұрын
I think South Africans like to portray a front of happiness and optimism, and as much as they'll deny it, it is because of naivety and ignorance.
@sparksmacoy2 жыл бұрын
@@truth-Hurts375 Major Stockholm syndrome
@thehun12342 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it is not so simple. Very few people can satisfy the immigration requirements of the countries which still take immigrants. I do not think that more than 10-15% of the remaining whites could qualify as immigrants to the US, Canada, or Australia.
@wellinever15582 жыл бұрын
to where I ask and our pensions can't even keep us above the breadline.
@sparksmacoy2 жыл бұрын
@@thehun1234 The US, Canada and Australia can take all the remaining whites of south Africa. You need to push your cause and the majority of those countries will support you. You are being attacked by your racist black leaders and they show no signs of stopping.
@joedennehy3862 жыл бұрын
No unfortunately not. Zimbabwe all over again
@SeanBotha2 жыл бұрын
No we need libiration and a new country from scratch
@richern27172 жыл бұрын
Nope will not survive as a unitary state. As gangs becomes the major employers due to a lack of jobs and the activities related, people will be pressured to congregate in areas which they can take control of....
@edwinreid9802 жыл бұрын
That is why you need a strong policing system and excellent Justice system. Then it can work.
@chessmanhatter2982 жыл бұрын
No chance...should have followed the Yugoslavia model long time ago....