Can the 5150 Iconic fool the pros? 6505 1992 Original vs 5150 Iconic BLIND TEST

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[@TobyKBTY]

Hundreds of amps in Sweetwater and Kyle makes a shootout on 5150's. Never change, bro.

[@TheCyberMantis]

No kidding. I would have been looking for a BadCat LYNX, but I don't think Sweetwater sells BadCat.

[@user-vu7ny6lh5r]

James Brown in black man and white amp builder 👶🎤🙏👶🎤🙏

[@MrBikboi]

@@TheCyberMantis Wow your tastes are soooo refined dude!

[@TheCyberMantis]

@@MrBikboi Actually not. I have a Boss Katana head, and I am quite happy with it.

[@greg24hoareau]

James Brown did a great job...one of the best amp designer.

[@Reverend_Taco]

I’m very upset that he unfriended me on Facebook.

[@riokinsey2134]

@@Reverend_Taco he did?! Why?!

[@savoirfaire8979]

At first glance, Kyle looks like the type of dude who listens to “Jock Jams” but ends up being cool to hang out.

[@bbck15]

Really like the long back an forth you guys were having describing the different tones these amps produce

[@mustangmaster94]

Hey Kyle, You and Don should do more videos together!!! Amazing content 👌 👏

[@ErikAnders]

Hell yes

[@SAMARIUM_Taylor]

I love the two of you doing your thing. Very grateful to have such amazing footage of some tone loving demons! 🤘🏻

[@27retrodaze]

Don is who taught me how to use a preamp through the return of the effects loop many years ago... Simple now, but at the time, to me, it was incredible...

[@antilaw9911]

Really liked this video with both of you!

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

Killer demo. Thanx. This is the detail we need.

[@JasonMcNamara]

Your knowledge and ability to dial in those tones was sublime and you totally fooled Don. Well done Kyle!! 🤘

[@OurWorldinChaos]

This was cool to see you guys compare these amps ❤❤❤❤ awesome vid

[@ErikAnders]

You had me fooled too Kyle 😂 sick video

[@okayestguitar66]

Great video Kyle and Don! Very cool amp. I would like to see a head-to-head between the iconic 40w combo and the 15w combo through their individual speakers and through the same speaker and/or load box/impulse.

[@markkinney5030]

That was so cool watching this just now road test both amps! Nice!

[@bjstein4242]

Cant get enough of this stuff man.. keep it coming..

[@Doc-zg3xm]

Great video, and you guys worked well together. No big heads just, just a fun comparison.

[@iwannarockon2010]

Killer shootout! 🤘

[@JustJoshing4L]

This is A+ content, my dude.

[@if6turnedouttobe9]

Great sounding amps...I have a PV 5150 II and have loved it since they came out...

[@ragadeemann]

Great video 📹 I throughly enjoyed it. 😊

[@KingStudiosCollective]

Killer video. Had to sub. I’ve seen your gear for sale a lot on FB market place ! My studio is not too far. I’m in Allentown 👌

[@ronnymilianowicz5228]

Man, you are a great host! More of that!

[@rickycompton2610]

Killer video Kyle, you know your amps Bro and Don Carr is a monster player who never gets enough credit, It just goes to show if you know how to dial an amp in its hard to tell the difference.

[@glaucosouza1971]

What a blast!!! A joy to watch. Killer video!

[@Twy7chTec_Vayper]

This is just another vid of proof that taking time dialing in your Amp/Head, can truly payoff...also is headache too lol 😆 😂 this was a really great vid today dude!

[@xiwiwix]

Damn, Kyle, you are my favorite KZbin Guitar Personality. You just have this "oh, Kyle, yeah, we go way back, he's a homie" attituded/lovable quality about you. Thank you, thank you for all the videos you've made, all the knowledge you bring, and all the good chuckles to hardiful laughs you bring, bro. GREAT FRICKEN VIDEO! \m/

[@xiwiwix]

Thank you, Don, you were great in this video!

[@mastersteve78]

I picked the Iconic on both! I really want one now. 5150 Iconic just has a certain sweet sound to my ears, loving the chugs and chops from it. ❤

[@RokDAWG1]

Mighty fine shootout! Kyle I’m waiting for Peavey to give you, your own model. 🤘🤘

[@jasonhoneman1272]

This is so clever and genius!!

[@mikestroud9969]

Both sound great. Good video. 😎👍✌️🎸🎸

[@nickharper8145]

Always happy to see some 5150 videos from you. Any chance of ever comparing a 6534+ to a 6505 II with el34 tubes? Supposed to be identical but for all of us looking for that unicorn 34+ it might be best to go with a 6505 II and get it ready for a tube swap. \m/

[@jasonmayse5585]

I own the iconic and am very pleased for the price, sounds great too..once you EQ to taste and balance your ODs in front this amp its killer 🤘🏻

[@chacha134]

I did this as which one I liked better and glad to see I picked the same amp both times. I will say when Kyle dialed them in they sounded super close.

[@TheFaustianMan]

Oh this fucking ROCKED! Dude, it's all the dialed in. And you nailed it!

[@gtrman69777]

I would love to hear how the EVH 5150 lll models compare to these.

[@TheToecutter69]

Awesome vid! Both amps rip! 🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@keithpins1]

What a killer vid man!

[@antilaw9911]

Feel definitely matters! Part of warm tube tone

[@kennethjolley]

Dude iconic is getting so much love now. Seemed like everyone hated it at first.

[@emartinezr]

Because nobody had played it, reasonably heard it, or heard someone who knows what they're doing dial it up properly. There's a few KZbinrs with amazing tones with the Iconic. It does have a distinct tone/voice. If you want to tame a bit of the highs and upper texture, don't go high with Presence and don't get super bright strings.

[@auntjenifer7774]

😂 People in the n internet were trying to kill it before it even came out over it only having 2 pre amp tubes but clearly it sounds like an EVH product so it rocks !

[@tgchan]

Good job, Kyle you made them almost identical xD I had hard time differentiate which one is which. You should more colabs.You're great with others/

[@JInfinity7]

You can use a Parametric up front for the cocked wash sound too

[@nathancloud6344]

Awesome content !!!!!! This is what it's about!!!!

[@place_desjardins]

Nice video

[@WyattScott]

just got the 40 watt Iconic combo. Great amp, replaced my Blackstar MKII Club 40 combo.

[@rollingstart_90s]

The 40 watter is insanely loud, even while set on 1/4 power. Too bad the amp does not have a smooth master volume. Actually no master at all. That would help with dialing in the sound and overall volume.

[@russelw.6288]

great content. Considering you can get a 6505 for around 600€ used, 1992/ iconic or just a standard made in usa 6505?

[@jimmiethompson3637]

Damn good video man

[@guitarandmore69]

Might want to consider a noisegate when doing these. Or put them on standby during the talking parts.

[@sweezyjackson4935]

Way back in like 2006 I had a chance to buy an original mint condition RG550 with the maple neck and the misty pinkish color for $175 and the guy also had an original block letter 5150 combo for $200 and I didnt have the cash for both so I took the RG550 and still wished i had the cash for both. The 5150 is a dream amp that always seems out of my financial reach.

[@sloughboundrecordz]

I was thinking of getting the 6505 1992 model.. would you recommend this one over the standard 6505? I want to get a death Metal black metal tones I’m sure it’ll do no problem..

[@bloozer666]

I have an original first release peavy 5150 and and original first release 6505 and LOVE them both.. And people who say they don't do cleans... I can get fender cleans out of both no problem.

[@jketterman6054]

Kyle, if you are putting in a EQ pedal in the loop, what settings do you have?

[@maraudermusic2714]

Diggin the Iconic! Was surprised.

[@philfrank5601]

Difference is night and day, this wasn't a challenge. The Iconoc has so much more compression, gain, whatever, but you hear it immediately.whem compared. Great shootout!

[@licccio2133]

It's insane how much alike they sound. I even preferred the Iconic on the first part of the shootout.

[@brownsfan7753]

This was fun!!

[@bolillo5013]

Without know which one was which, I liked the Iconic better. Which is good, because I’ve been thinking about getting that as my first tube amp stack setup.

[@Powermad-bu4em]

Do it. Put an eq in the loop to tame the top end and you won't regret the choice.

[@Z17xMachine]

I had an Iconic and couldn't trust that I would get one that didn't have issues.

[@jeremydeats9406]

It's all about taste, but these amps do sound very different. To me the 6505 has the mojo and frankly the history, countless bands have used it on recordings and tours, it's a legendary amp now.

[@emartinezr]

Geez when Don was trying to pick them apart, it was impossible. They were pretty much exactly the same.

[@Leo_Fender]

“This was his idea, not mine”

[@TobyKBTY]

I owned an Iconic that I actually super loved. It just turned out to be a lemon, and eventually got a refund for it so I bought a Peavey 5150 lmao but honestly the Iconic more than holds a candle to my OG 5150. Great amp, I just hope the QC issue on mine was an isolated case because I would own one again if I ended up 5150-less

[@profanepropane]

Just a question but what does a lemon mean? Is it just a bad apple or is it a term for when something is vastly different in quality than the other copies?

[@TobyKBTY]

@@profanepropane oh well i guess bad apple is more appropriate lol. It had internal issues and would lose low end and just sound randomly. Had the option to return it since it fell under warranty and chose to do so.

[@profanepropane]

@@TobyKBTY ahh I see

[@sexychugs69247]

Wow I guessed the same as you but the 2nd shootout I was wrong just like don you know your amps kyle!

[@JasonSmith-wj2ht]

#2 sounds more scooped & more compressed. #1 has more sizzle.

[@aalidas8951]

Why not have a regular 'ol 6505 in the mix too??

[@kilsoo]

i bought an iconic 80w head about 2 months ago as a stay home amp. it has been fantastic paired with an old 1960av and a charvel.. all the usual suspects!

[@rollingstart_90s]

Isn't that an insanely loud amplifier for home use? Separate atenuator, maybe?

[@ripley7t429]

I never have much of a problem determining what amp is which. There is something with the Iconic that sets it apart. Not that it is bad, just something that I can identify easily.

[@tedmen1123]

There is a high end sizzle in there that you can hear on the iconic. Like you say, its not bad just different.

[@rollingstart_90s]

@@tedmen1123 Could it mainly be the speaker that creates that sizzle? Could a Greenback speaker make it a bit softer/smoother? The original 5150 amp from the early 90's was created for Eddie with the Greenbacks in mind, which is what Eddie used. I don't know... I'm just guessing Greenback or Creamback would be the answer?

[@ronvest1968]

Kyle, can you find out what preamp and power amp tubes are being shipped with the New 6505? Thanks for the content. Awesome stuff!

[@belligerentamateur]

Jj

[@joegoliver3]

Kyle look at that imposter above you on every comment.

[@yeti1002]

@@joegoliver3 the imposter is pretty common on Kyles channel . By Reporting the imposter , you can delete him .

[@AtomicMeatballGuitar]

I think they're 12AX7 preamp tubes and 6L6GC power amp tubes

[@ronvest1968]

@@AtomicMeatballGuitarI was curious as to what brand of tubes. Kyle answered with JJ tubes. Thank you, though.

[@TheGreenTuna]

I think where people are messing up is not understanding how well they can do death metal. I have the amp/cab currently with no boost or noise gate (just for ease, live I use both) and I can get the sickest tones out of it. I can emulate stuff like Dying Fetus or Decapitated with ease. Use the amp for whatever you want, but if you're limited on money and want something for extreme metal, this is the way to go.

[@seanrowley5572]

Im not in the market for a 5150 thesedays, but if the iconic is good enough for the guy from the black dahlia murder, then its good enough for me.

[@s.w.matteo6679]

Nice job dialing those tones in Kyle.

[@partriotsfight5039]

I had an original 5150 Block letter they had to change back in 1995 or 96. I sold it and it’s the one I let get away. I wish I had never sold that one

[@TheLounabomber]

The iconic is a sick amp for sure

[@svogender]

On this clip I liked the 6505 best..!! 👍

[@iwiggs6870]

Honestly, in a mix,. if you can tell the difference between any 5150, you're either guessing or bullshitting.

[@j-rod166]

Engl Fireball 100 for the win!!

[@TheSweezer]

SO whichever one yall dont want feel free to send it to me

[@Rforce78]

Have you ever tried a bad cat amp

[@DavidMadeira29]

Some other people is counter phasing the B string because of C notes?! I don't know. Namastè.

[@johncoker13]

I'm finally looking to drop some serious money on an amp after playing since the 80's and everyone is saying how affordable this is... I just can't catch up no matter what SMH

[@worldssickestmedia2713]

Hits one note "I thought it was in tune". Nope. It's a Gibson.

[@mattlucas4046]

Please, everybody, don't judge the Iconic from all the "drama" the amp had when it came out. And, I will say, there is a certain KZbinr that gave the amp a bad review after "playing" it at a guitar store, and told everyone "don't buy it". The guy's to listen to are Kyle, and ToneWars. If you want a FAIR & HONEST review those 2 dudes are the ones to listen to.

[@rollingstart_90s]

A lot of people do not realise how much amp technology has advanced since theoriginal 5150 days. Guitarists can often be some of the most stubborn creatures, downplaying new things that they have not even tried. The fact that this amp has hybrid technology is the thing that rubbed a lot of purists the wrong way, even tough the product wasn't even out yet. But again.... it is a tube amp + technology has gone really far. I just had a chance to test the 15 watt combo at a local store and I was absolutely stunned by how great these things sound. Does not sound like a solid state amp, beacuse it isn't one. I had the amp set on 1/4 power mode and it was LOUD. I only had the volume turned around 9 o clock. I was also surprised how GREAT the clean channel is, which was something that the old Peavey heads could never do. They were probably neve intended to do so anyway, but seeing this improvement on the Iconic is a huge bonus.

[@Scotty_AV]

If youre watching this wondering what to get, just get a 6505+ with the 2 EQ channels. Its incredible

[@ThePermanentCase]

Never thought I’d see a video of Kyle Bull playing a boomer riff, yet here we are.

[@Ottophil]

I just prefer peavey as a brand.

[@TheCyberMantis]

The 6505 needs an overdrive in front of it. Pick your favorite one, they all do the job.

[@boxfan6656]

Phil pounding the door because he didn't do it first?

[@guitarguts666]

Shame they don't sell the Bad Cat Lynx

[@michaelbarber590]

Crazy that the Iconic sounds so much clearer and more dynamic. 6505 sounds a bit muffled and flubby in comparison.

[@rollingstart_90s]

Yes. Over 30 years has passed since the 6505 first came out. Amplifier technology has advanced immensely since the old days. Brown worked magic on the Iconic series.

[@mooferoo]

5150 Iconic, but a Les Paul going out of tune is pretty iconic as well.

[@peterschaefer1665]

If you are using them IR's, you could probably fool some people

[@MXP250]

Are you at all related to Matt Damon? You look and sound like him. 😂

[@dalejacksonmo]

I've been listening for over a year all reviews on both of these amps from all demos available I think...Peavey sounds best...original sounds and tones and all tube and 120 watts

[@barrysmith502]

You definitely looked.

[@jeffc1753]

Don Carr is a class act and awesome guitar player. Great to see him on your channel, Kyle!

[@planetcaravan93]

The real winner here was the Goldtop

[@devilsguitaristmusic]

I thought the Iconic was better in both situations. I really didn't care for the 6505 at all.

[@jedn6488]

Iconic tighter. 6505 flubby imo

[@samizdat113]

That toothy thing

[@musicman7773]

Classic

[@DoctorMcFarlandStudios]

Wow those amps are noisy