Can The Japa 365 Pro Handle Big Logs For Firewood?

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Ohio Wood Burner Ltd

Ohio Wood Burner Ltd

4 жыл бұрын

I have some big logs to run thru the Japa 365 Pro to make into firewood. These are the biggest logs I have tried running thru this machine so far. I prefer small logs, 6"-8" but with the 8 way knife I may be able to get used to the bigger stuff. Anytime a smaller processor uses an 8 way there are going to be jams but so far it has been easy to clear jams with this machine.
We have been having big heat in Ohio the last two weeks and I have halved production to just 1/2 cord a day. It's just too hot for me to labor, move logs, stack etc. I now run the Japa in the mornings and stack in the evenings.
The chain decided to run out of edge when cutting these big logs. You can see on some of the cuts where the saw wouldn't progress thru the cut. It is amazing how a sharp chain makes everything go so much better.
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@JoesFirewoodVideos
@JoesFirewoodVideos 4 жыл бұрын
It’s nice having a cameraman to help you out.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe. You are correct! I don't know what I'm going to do when she goes back to college. I'm not good with cameras...it seems I can only work on things that leak oil. Hope you are well. Joe
@joezeigler8097
@joezeigler8097 4 жыл бұрын
good day my friend . watching you before going to church. wish i was able to do wood again, i miss it. have a great day.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe for the nice comments. I love firewood...I love the feel, the smells, the sounds... I must share some of the connections you have. I'm glad you enjoy the videos and I hope to continue bringing them to you! Joe
@JoesFirewoodVideos
@JoesFirewoodVideos 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe thx for the Superchat Sunday
@daveholmes123
@daveholmes123 4 жыл бұрын
Great job! That little Japa definitely puts out some volume, I think it's perfect for your operation Joe! Take care and thanks for sharing 👍
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice words Dave! So far so good with the Japa. I have zero buyers remorse with it so far. Thanks for watching. Joe
@healyfamily4
@healyfamily4 4 жыл бұрын
What a great machine! Great video!
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Richard! I am very pleased with the Japa so far. It seems to be well built and makes quick work of a labor intensive job. I am grateful for you taking time to watch and comment. Joe
@poppelegreg14
@poppelegreg14 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting Enjoying your videos 👍
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Greg. I never would have thought I would be doing this but so far so good! I hope to keep doing it as long as it's fun...just like selling firewood! Joe
@davidcarrow5419
@davidcarrow5419 4 жыл бұрын
Your processor does a excellent job on those 10"-14" logs using the 8 way beautiful splits
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you David. I was skeptical of the 8 way at first. I didn't think the machine would have the grunt to push logs thru it but so far I have been pleased. It will still struggle with knots or twisted logs but I do enjoy it. Please subscribe if you haven't yet. I will be posting more vids in the future. Joe
@dallaspeterson2024
@dallaspeterson2024 4 жыл бұрын
32" is a big block not 13"!!
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
@@dallaspeterson2024 No doubt.My nephew dropped of some 36" oak rounds in my yard two years ago. They are still resting in the same spot he dumped them. lol. I can't budge them!
@JoesFirewoodVideos
@JoesFirewoodVideos 4 жыл бұрын
That silver maple sure does split easy. New subscriber here.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
I have become a big fan of silver maple. It seems it is all I get this year. It splits easy, drys fast. Thanks Joe! Joe
@toddpac1
@toddpac1 4 жыл бұрын
That handled that nicely
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Struck! I think everyone wishes their splitter was a little bit more powerful...and so do I but the Japa is pretty strong to run these logs thru an 8 way knife. I was skeptical at first but I'm liking it! Joe
@larrykluckoutdoors8227
@larrykluckoutdoors8227 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Larry! Nice to hear from you again. Joe
@scottmoorhouse5664
@scottmoorhouse5664 4 жыл бұрын
Did a pretty good job i think. A lot of the logs that I split can be pretty well knoted up, so I know how that can be. Live about 40 minutes from Super Split, and will probably contacting them.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Scott. I really do think my most important machine remains the Super Spliiter. It is an amazing machine, productive. You will make your money back with it very fast. I recommend you just get the J model. It is great. I think the HD is overkill and prob weighs a lot more to move around your yard. Just my opinion! Joe
@Adirondack_DFL
@Adirondack_DFL 4 жыл бұрын
I used to sell face cords stacked in my yard for pick up by customers. I would take those odd short pieces and nubs and knots and set them on top of the stacked face cord. Many customers would throw them to the side and not take them.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joel...One thing I DON"T do is customer pick up. I want this to be fun and sitting around waiting for someone to show up, to me, is not fun. I set my delivery schedule and then I can plan my day. Like it this way! Stay cool Joel. Joe
@marksparkplug7758
@marksparkplug7758 4 жыл бұрын
Japa did a good job Joe, just got in from splitting bundle wood before it gets to hot, have great day.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Staying cool Mark! I will stack some wood this eve but taking a break today. No processor is perfect and the importance is you find one that suits your needs. I hit a home run with the Japa. My bundle sales have slowed prob bc of the heat and big rains. I think the campers are staying home. Joe
@DanielAtkinsFirewood
@DanielAtkinsFirewood 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohiowoodburner : yes but how may campers are building firepits at home.. I did one 3 years ago and it's been awsom.. Verry relaxing and for me the wood supply is a few yards away..lol
@chlyon
@chlyon 2 жыл бұрын
Hay Joe , had an idea for you I saw on another channel they split big logs in a standard splitter like you have then they feed them into there japa 315 ,(it worked well really well) I recon if you loaded a large logs say a 45-50 cm logs you could put them onto you log deck but rather than feed it into the machine feed it backwards(out of the trough ) and then you could cut rounds at a nice height , after you have quite a few done 4 way split them with standard unit and run them though the Japa .You could even get a stopper made to get correct length and or a point to attach a standard chainsaw. I maybe over complexing things :)
@timberhitchllc
@timberhitchllc 4 жыл бұрын
The throughput per cycle is hard to argue with on the bigger wood and the 8-way but it only works until it doesn't, after that the fussing becomes a safety hazard and time suck. The big pieces can be turned into bundle smalls.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
You are spot on Timberhitch. Just like any machine you learn pretty quick what it can and can't do. I have a sense with just about every log if it will give me fits. If so I will cut it up with the saw and run it thru the Super Splitter. At least in relation to jams I have found this pretty easy to clear. It seems the log either splits quick or it doesn't...getting stopped before it goes too far into the knife. They are easier to clear that way. Joe
@newenglander4513
@newenglander4513 3 жыл бұрын
As you alluded to in this video Joe, the splitter hydraulics are not quite strong enough to handle big logs easily. I once worked with a processor similar to yours and it was made in a Northern European country. It only had a seven ton hydraulic ram which was just not strong enough for the hardwoods we use for firewood in Australia. It was usually OK for Red Stringy, but not very good for Ironbark and hopeless for Yellow Box. (All Eucalypts). A lot of time was spent hammering the blocks back off the wedge, and when you have to do that it makes me wonder why the manufactures don't put a twenty or thirty ton ram in there. Then it would handle pretty much anything that could fit through. A nine horsepower engine will run a 30 ton ram easily enough. Anyway Joe, looks like you're having fun there. I get my own wood these days out in the scrub, it costs me about $40 per ton and a half, that accounts for fuel, saw chains, oil etc., but not wear on the vehicle and trailer which would be minimal as I only travel about 40 miles per load. That works out a bit cheaper than $140-$200 per ton most wood carters are charging in Australia now.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is any person who has run a processor that hasn't wished for more splitting power? I know I have! lol. I think there is most likely a trade off for size, frame integrity where too much power could damage the structure of the machine? Dunno. It sounds like you have a good thing going in Australia. I almost had a chance to got to Parramatta NSW a couple years ago but it never came together. Joe
@newenglander4513
@newenglander4513 3 жыл бұрын
@@ohiowoodburner The processor I used in my job as a wood gatherer a few years ago actually had two rams, each side by side in its own 'valley'. One would be splitting a block while the other was on the way back ready for the next block to fall. When we did Red Stringy and it was splitting well, we'd get a ton in about 15 minutes. Another problem apart from the anemic splitter power was bark jamming the mechanisms underneath if there were any present on the blocks. It wouldn't let the rams go back far enough to trip the levers to allow for the next cut. Red Stringy bark is almost as bad as it sounds, tough and similar to binding twine almost! That's when we'd spend a half hour digging it out. It seems your wood has bark that stays on the block as you are splitting most of it green. Pretty much most of the wood we go after here is already on the ground and seasoned. You are probably right about the frames Joe. I just think that the machine I used was only made for European wood, so they didn't need strong hydraulics. When I bought a woodsplitter for my own use, I was sure I wanted something stronger than that processor, so I bought a Troybilt 33 ton model. I've used it for years now with no problem and it will split anything. Some I know around here have 40 ton splitters and I've seen 60 tonners advertised here as well. These would be OK but with larger engines=more fuel use, so those larger ones may not be worth the extra money. Pity you didn't make it to Aus. Joe. Maybe one day you will and you could look up a few wood carters and see the way we do it here. Usually most of the blocks are cut with the saws out in the bush and the blocks are split back at home base. Just go to the nearest pub and you'll soon find a woodcarter. That's if this bloody virus ever lets up of course. Cheers.
@fredericktownhomestead8094
@fredericktownhomestead8094 Жыл бұрын
Your log table is much better
@fredericktownhomestead8094
@fredericktownhomestead8094 Жыл бұрын
I think I would sort my logs by diameter. If the 8 works you want to use it on those logs.
@gerbourke1952
@gerbourke1952 3 жыл бұрын
Any oversized logs that come into me i found to quarter them down on the sawmill and then feed them through. A serious return from bigger timber
@Divemedic14
@Divemedic14 3 жыл бұрын
Found my way to your channel just searching for cool outdoor videos. I grew up cutting and splitting wood with my grandfather. All done by hand splitter back then. What I would have done to have access to any splitter much less one like this. lol I googled up the price just out of random curiosity. Stick shock to say the least. I'm now left wondering how many cords you would have to sell before you started to see this as an investment/profit? I would imagine by the time you add in the ER and therapy bills for a busted up back from not using one, the price is well under a few hospital bills. This is a awesome channel you have here, wishing you great success and as time draws near, Happy Holidays. Kenny Taylor, Cullman, Alabama
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found the channel and also left a very kind comment. I am just into my 3rd year full timing in firewood and if you would have asked me at the start if I would be where I am now.... wow! Everything has happened so fast it's like I have a tiger by the tail. We post every Wed and Sun. I hope you subscribe and please stay safe. Joe
@hankelrod7315
@hankelrod7315 Жыл бұрын
@@ohiowoodburner great channel, I’m curious what you can get for a load of wood? Do you sell by cord or load? High oil makes burning wood look better & better.
@DanielAtkinsFirewood
@DanielAtkinsFirewood 4 жыл бұрын
If you do get a log bigger than 14in do you cut it up and use the supersplitter?? Nice looking load for sure.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Daniel. I go Old School on any big log. Buck it at 16" with my Dolmar, and run it thru the Super Splitter. I have a Troy Bilt 27 ton Hydro that collects dust. The Super Splitter is the greatest machine ever invented for firewood! Joe
@jacquesblaque7728
@jacquesblaque7728 3 жыл бұрын
What chain spec does your processor use? FWIW, I've had extended practice carefully and conservatively restoring others' dull chains. Guessing that you have a batch of chains that you cycle through, you might want to try sending me a couple of loops for sharpening & depth-gauge setting (the latter done by hand of course.) Just an additional option, for grins here.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the offer Jacques...The chain is 73EXL 15" .058 ... I do have a number of them. Right now I have a guy that I take them to but I will keep you in mind! Thanks.... Joe
@jacquesblaque7728
@jacquesblaque7728 3 жыл бұрын
@@ohiowoodburner Not trying to barge in. Seems that chain has recommended filing angle of 25 deg, about vertical axis- un usual. It's full-chisel, allegedly faster cutting than semi-chisel. Full-chisel definitely goes dull more quickly, and does so like someone hit a switch. I'll take full-chisel chains for free, but spin up semi-chisel from a 100' spool. Lets see if winter ever comes. Fall, even. All mine are .050".
@ZiemsRyan
@ZiemsRyan 3 жыл бұрын
Joe can you tell me how you decided on the Japa 365 processor over some of the other wood processors available out there?? Thank you!
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan I needed a smaller, lower priced machine that had a positive log stop, a log lift, and had to process logs from right to left. I had a Dyna SC12XP that I traded in for the Japa. The Japa is a dynamite machine and wow is it fast! Joe
@ZiemsRyan
@ZiemsRyan 3 жыл бұрын
@@ohiowoodburner Thanks Joe!!
@jnspires7164
@jnspires7164 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, how would this machine handle 100” logs? Here in northern Michigan this how we get our logs brought in.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 3 жыл бұрын
As in 8 feet + long? As long as they are under 14" diameter this Japa would make mincemeat out of them. The problem with 8' logs would be you would be better off to have a live deck bc you will be loading logs all the time. This has about a 5.5 second cycle time and it will process an 8' log before you blink. Joe
@jnspires7164
@jnspires7164 3 жыл бұрын
Ohio Wood Burner Ltd thanks for the info, I just don’t have a tractor to use a live deck. I plan on picking a 365 pro in about two weeks. Thanks for all your info in the videos, made the decision pretty easy on the Japa.
@maximemineault8117
@maximemineault8117 3 жыл бұрын
The splitting force seems to be on the low side. I always see cheap splitters pretending having 25-40 tons of splitting force. While I think I saw on the website japa is only 7.5 tons ? Do you know why they didn’t make it stronger ?
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 3 жыл бұрын
I think the force is married to the overall strength of the frame etc. For the 4 way and 6 way knife the splitter force is fine. The 8 way I think it could be a little stronger. It isn't wimpy but could use some more grunt. Joe
@nitr0junki3
@nitr0junki3 3 жыл бұрын
What is the ton rating on the splitting function of the japa?
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it is 7 tons. It is pretty strong but I would like just a little more power when I'm using the 8 way knife
@wudchk
@wudchk 4 жыл бұрын
Shit you could probably make more money by processing some of these into live edge pieces for the pintrest type folks. Then take the drops and use that for firewood!
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
I have an Alaskan mill for my Dolmar that I have never use. lol. I'll stick with firewood! Thanks Wudchk. Hope you are well. Joe
@wudchk
@wudchk 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohiowoodburner nice! Down here in Texas you'll pay $200 for a shelf grade piece of live edge, then you can use the drops for firewood filler.
@arnejahr3531
@arnejahr3531 4 жыл бұрын
Why did u pick this processer
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
How are you doing Arne? I needed a machine that would split smaller, needed speed, and needed a machine that would pick the log off the ground. Lastly I needed a machine that worked from right to left. I hit a home run with the Japa. It has been a workhorse for me as well. Very well built and the factory support has been excellent! Please subscribe to the channel if you haven't done so yet! Joe
@King_TuTT
@King_TuTT 3 жыл бұрын
yeah she doesn't like them big logs. seems like extra wear and tear on the machine.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 3 жыл бұрын
One thing for sure is I keep an eye on the infeed belt. When I muscle a large log around I see the belt being pushed off center with the drum. I prefer 8" but sometimes I am happy with what I get. Joe
@normancrown9965
@normancrown9965 4 жыл бұрын
To me that would not do me any good up here we cut big trees
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Norman. No doubt there are all types for different sizes. I couldnt do this w big wood. Processors and machines too expensive. Hope u are well. Cooled off some here but susposed 2 get hot again over the weekend. Joe
@marcyounker6379
@marcyounker6379 2 жыл бұрын
can you provide me with the contact information for japa products please
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 2 жыл бұрын
In the USA contact www.metsamachines.com/ also www.japa.fi
@cabbyhubby
@cabbyhubby 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt work for me .... done quite a bit of 38"-42" rounds this season.
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 2 жыл бұрын
That is some big logs for sure Johnny
@drewa3597
@drewa3597 4 жыл бұрын
you don't bother to just sharpen the chain instead of replacing it? time = money kinda thing? I mean i can see why you wouldn't, sharpening is pretty annoying but i can't just replace the chain on my chainsaw every time its dull lol and yes im going backwards through your vids, i enjoy them!
@ohiowoodburner
@ohiowoodburner 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Drew. I have a rotation of 6 chains. When one becomes dull I put on a sharp one and put the dull one on the list of things to sharpen! Joe
@drewa3597
@drewa3597 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohiowoodburner 10-4, thanks for the insight
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