Can the new Acura Integra keep up with its peers? Or the original Type R? - Cammisa Drag Race Replay

[@andreyka64]

I’m just so blown away at Hagerty’s production quality.

[@GA-wq8xq]

Jack Baruth says that these videos are not long for this world.

[@user59371]

I’d rather just see the race without all the BS

[@lennygarrison6836]

Insane!! The production is 🔥

[@jacobmachingavuta5022]

Cammisa is a force

[@MPowerSubie12]

It’s what we expect from a high caliber source and not the average joe KZbinr…

[@spamcans05]

This is just too good. It’s too well done. It’s absolutely revolutionizing automotive videography. If this were made into a Top Gear style 30 minute episode based show, it would be the hottest thing around. Always impressed. Never stop driving.

[@hoosthere]

Looks like top gear already

[@jmccarsnmore1025]

It will be actually nice if they create a TV show, combining all their segments into one 30-mins episode!! Not a bad idea at all

[@sleekskyline120]

The hop out of the moving Elantra was incredible!

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

CGI at its best

[@poplaurentiu4148]

It's all thanks to the BMW M-Power director & chef engineer which Hyundai got for the last few years to involve in creating the N division sprucing sportiness into the Hyundai factory cars, is not a bad thing but this is the main reason they got so advanced lately snatching experts which use to work for other brands.. Is about competition between brands, i really like what Hyundai / Kia did recently but the most awesome thing Hyundai did the : Pony '74 revival, that thing is Epic..

[@RICARD01]

It wasn't moving...🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ionutgeanta8741]

@@RICARD01 it's obvious that he was refering to the editing part 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@RICARD01]

@@ionutgeanta8741 Yeeeah, whatevaaa

[@StraightOutThaGudda4U]

2:41 I screamed with that piece of editing, give the editor a raise, that was absolutely insane, as an amateur editor this is the level of production I love to see, great job!

[@slowride5633]

The Acura got smoked so bad I thought he literally had enough time to do that lol

[@StraightOutThaGudda4U]

@@slowride5633 lmaoo

[@aKellyBrand]

Yeah I think the CT5 Blackwing ICONS was the first video it was used in cause I remember screaming too 😂😂

[@Tedkelvin]

That transition was epic...I thought the Jetta was gonna run him over

[@StraightOutThaGudda4U]

@@Tedkelvin the power of editing my friend, gotta love it

[@sn4rl277]

oh, I am happy to see the Elantra N in this video. And the DCT version is even faster than the manual. Hyundia has really stepped up their game with the N Cars. Literally just found this channel yesterday. I am amazed by the production quality just like the rest of the commenters have pointed out.

[@me_asme]

You guys have taken car journalism and comparisons to a whole new level, best in class... "Never stop driving" rings so true...

[@Mr.Thermistor7228]

a drag race is absolutely no way to compare two vehicles its unbelievable how many "car youtubers" make a 15 minute video of a freaking drag race. what a joke

[@AhmadM25]

honda accord beats all of em

[@TinLeadHammer]

"Burn more gasoline for no reason". "Cook the planet faster". "Feed birds with tire worms".

[@ydid687]

@@Mr.Thermistor7228 sure but its a good test to judge how a car puts the power down, rolling races would be better

[@Mr.Thermistor7228]

@@ydid687 puts down power in a straight line???? i didnt know everywhere we go is a straight line, no turns anywhere

[@dln.sweeney]

Nothing like the sound of a 90's Honda starter motor, I'm glad the editor left that in.

[@starbai3619]

this!

[@skf2]

Came to say that :)

[@jorgeconj]

Can’t belive someone beat me to this comment. 😂

[@zachaliles]

I was in high school, just got my license, around the time the original fast and the furious came out. That's pretty much all I heard when I'd be leaving school in the afternoon. Hondas' as far as the eye could see. And almost everyone had plans to make them 10 second monsters.

[@hothatchpa]

This is factual! My 91 Accord manual sounded exactly the same.

[@henrybrar]

I need this editor to edit my life a little bit. Dude mixes Compound V in his coffee.

[@rubberbandmandestruction390]

Oi!

[@MrTARIQSs]

Oi!

[@roger3958]

Supe life.

[@eIicit]

That sounds like some awesome coffee.

[@danrogy]

His name is Robert David Sanders and he has a hell of a resume

[@justenn9949]

Hagerty I keep saying it, and I’ll continue to reiterate that you’ve hit a home run getting Jason. Props to this whole team honestly. The budget might not be as huge but production quality is up there with the old Top Gear. I think you guys are the gold standard right now for automotive journalism.

[@Highlander1432]

Jason is awesome

[@davidh2732]

I don’t even like Hyundai and I’ve got an M340i, but I have to give some serious credit to the Elantra N. That exhaust sounds awesome and its performance is excellent in this segment. Props to Hyundai for actually entering the performance market properly and coming up with some good cars. I knew things were looking up for them when the veloster came out

[@johnlai651]

The front of the Elantra N looks hideous.

[@davidh2732]

@@johnlai651 not a fan of the frond end of most of their cars right now, agreed

[@chad_16v]

@@johnlai651 Yea lol the leaks showed the black stuff on front was supposed to be colored but they left it non colored and looks goofy.

[@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST]

Videos don't do them justice. They sound so good and look nice! I wanted one, but it was that or a 2022 Hayabusa, and I wanted the bike. I mean, I drove a base Elantra rental and it was so fun for a slow car. It just felt so good and even the CVT felt nice. I was very impressed. The N is really a lot of car for the price, especially because the guy who was in charge of BMW's M division back in the day is the one who made the N cars.

[@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST]

@@johnlai651 I agree, but it's also what makes me like it. Weird but yeah. I love that ugly front.

[@nickloong]

That's really some creative editing that makes the viewing experience like no other. Great job!

[@TinLeadHammer]

Yeah, just a little less boring.

[@lordDEEEZ]

Awesome video! Straight to the point without 20 mins of fluff

[@esupra773]

Hagerty is killing it with these videos. KEEP THEM COMING!

[@Pla8tinum]

I have a new Integra and love it. We all know it's not a fast car (not sure what the point of this video is) but it's a blast to drive. Very engaging, revs high and wants to be pushed. It's fuel consumption also won't bankrupt you (looking at you Bronco Raptor). Anyway, at least I now know not to get in a straight line race with an Elantra and GLI - thanks. Video production quality? Damn! 🔥

[@NvSrAgE679]

Just want to point out that you should try an Elantra in your class. The Elantra N is not in the same class as the Integra and the Si. The N competes with the Type R. If you want a fair race, race a car that’s actually in your class which would be the Elantra N-Line not the N.

[@killerkhalsa27]

@@NvSrAgE679 Then you have to factor in cost and the n-line is much cheaper.

[@NvSrAgE679]

@@killerkhalsa27 absolutely. That’s what I said.

[@dustinwells3689]

Same reason I bought my Integra. Its such a fun, economical daily driver!

[@បងម៉ាប់-ញ7ឍ]

Yeah I don't get it either, maybe the price??? Not even the same engine or power in this case. I got an si just to enjoy driving not to outrun anyone😁😁😁

[@user-nifinei34jd9]

I will take old type R over all. More raw mechanical feeling. More fun! Also it will never depreciate.

[@gavinmcclure8047]

100%

[@EFNRND]

They are actually appreciating in value. Go check it out. I have a 94 del sol vtec all original and those are going for around 15k right now

[@josephgarcia4302]

@@EFNRND you high asf

[@magicjnkie216]

I would love an old, original Integra....so much more connection to the driver....all that stuff added since then just adds weight...& uglyness...🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@eulogy1981]

@@EFNRND not they are not I had a del Sol vtec b16 super clean they are at 7-8k

[@victorgarciap.4788]

I wonder what time the Integra can do on a racetrack, and how would it compare with the one of the Jetta, the Elantra, and the 2001 Integra Type R. Hopefully, I can see that on Hot Version, being one of these cars driven by Keiichi Tsuchiya.

[@bugenhagen5813]

This is what I was thinking exactly.

[@psewgobind]

Around the racetrack comparison would have been much more valuable for those who actually know how to drive. Even so, I suspect N would have added insult to injury.

[@dln.sweeney]

@@psewgobind Yep. The Hyundai would wreck the other two with those tires.

[@Turbochargedtwelve]

Honda beats the Jetta handily and the Hyundai rubs both their noses in the mud

[@jimiverson3085]

@@Turbochargedtwelve Not a chance. This car just doesn't have the engine to do that.

[@rpitneyjr]

I almost feel cheated only getting 7 minutes of this content. I want more!

[@rspec_d]

Elantra N is track ready out the factory. Hyundai as a manufacturer has really been pushing performance & it’s good to see comparison videos. Look forward to FL5 & CN7N against each other.

[@jd_99]

Elentra N is also busted engine ready out of the factory 🤣🤣🤣

[@greatvaluegaming6901]

@@jd_99 Good thing we got that 10 year 100k powertrain warranty 😼

[@lupavo1738]

@@jd_99 You got your facts wrong there buddy, this is a N vehicle, it’s not that base trash you’re talking about. These vehicles are made by former bmw engineers.

[@Nah5534]

That car is not track ready lol Better suited maybe but definitely not track ready lol.

[@K3GT1]

@Nah5534 it's definitely track ready. Has Rear brace bar, Michelin Pilot sport 4s, 14.2 inch brakes, downforce, brake cooling, and more.

[@ianpolo5673]

Despite its age, the old ITR still looks real good in styling. The same cannot be said for the new integra.

[@Twofrogsonecup]

And the fact that the new one is slow as molasses for a car made in 2022 by a company with all the resources in the world

[@loganamurray64]

Not to mention the sound

[@Twofrogsonecup]

@@loganamurray64 yea sounds like a glorified vaccum cleaner

[@konactopus5418]

Honda is definitely not interested in gasoline cars anymore. Them pulling out of F1 says it all. High revving fun honda engines are no longer

[@loganamurray64]

@@konactopus5418 I think the L15 has shown us that nicely unfortunately

[@trevorcaltagirone1814]

I literally sit here waiting every day as a car salesman waiting for these videos to pop up. Amazing quality and great videos I love it thank you guys for keeping our pistons pumping.

[@deucedvx]

Can we get the integra type r, rsx type s, new integra, new si and 99-00 em1 si all on the track. Drag and circuit, old gen vs new gen! That would be epic! Hey throw in the Prelude type sh for fun:)

[@bradleyrivenbark946]

And throw in the Corolla GR haha

[@Kevin-MM69ex]

4th and 5th Gen Prelude

[@JAM_2024]

4th gen Prelude Si

[@henryv.3272]

All the Yes!

[@nhoff7703]

Be hard to find good stock versions of all these. “Stock” being the key word.

[@StinkySundae]

Elantra N is a really great car. I’m loving mine!

[@kooksgarage3301]

Man I really hope to get one, or something from Hyundai. I want to switch from my Mini Cooper S 2020. Hyundai seems to be the ones making cool stuff right now

[@user-rj3qc2kx1i]

its so ugly :v just like anything hyundai produces nowadays, except the new concept 74 maybe

[@ctcdarkness]

@@user-rj3qc2kx1i and good thing no one cares about your opinion

[@kokation86]

Your drag races are THE BEST, I love the unique way that the videos are made, fhe way you where drag racing and then you get out of the car WOW 😳. Add more drag races please I'm sure you can beat Carwow!!

[@iluvcakes19]

U-drag race is the best.

[@NotUrDJ]

It's not even a comparison, carwow isn't an auto journalism channel , this is.

[@grafitea]

I really appreciate the time/speed splits for the gearing. It's how I discuss driving with my brother in his Veloster N

[@e1bo]

I bought an integra aspec 6mt with 4k miles for the same drive-out price as a new civic si. For the price and all the bells and whitsles, it is an awsome daily driver. Sure, its no drag queen, but man does it eat corners extremely well. Very fun car with 35 mpg and great looks (subjective). Go test drive one if you're on the fence.

[@CaptainTonus]

It's worth noting that back in the day, Sport Compact Car magazine clocked the Integra Type R at 0-60 in 6.1 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.5 @ 96 mph. They were probably destroying the clutch and transmission in the process, and they may have been on a prepped surface.

[@AcuraLvR82]

the factory clutch and transmission can handle every bit of it. My b16 transmission shifts better the higher the rpm you shift it.

[@mickl8212]

Yes the ITR has a better power to weight ratio.

[@Boosted00]

Elantra N's can also do 13.1-13.2 bone stock incl factory 19" wheels/tires. So the numbers on most cars are a bit off it seems.

[@GoDsSoN770]

@@Boosted00 DCT Elantra N's are running low 13s, not their manual counterparts.

[@MultiChimRichalds]

They probably weren't testing it in a boiling hot desert, that's a major factor especially for turbo cars with tiny factory intercoolers that can't keep up with heatsoak.

[@ENtense]

13.8 is great for the M/T Elantra N. Ran a 13.1 in my DCT model.

[@aono335]

Thats nuts

[@thewheeltroll1833]

That’s pretty quick!

[@migueralliart]

Genuinely impressed. Hyundai did their part when making these sedans.

[@filip000]

That's fast, my 370z isn't that fast. Great job done by Hyundai

[@jagerking7020]

Oh ya? The Kona N is still cooler and as fast 😝 lol

[@WoodAndSteel92]

Thank you Jason for reinforcing my desire for an Elantra N.

[@RyanDaltonWrites]

I daily drive one and absolutely love it.

[@roccotaco87]

If only they weren’t so damn ugly

[@desmondlample7812]

Yea I drive one too worth every penny

[@WaveManMike]

Can we see the Jetta GLI with stock tires vs a Jetta GLI with real performance tires? There was so much wheel spin that I'm seriously curious how things would change with better traction.

[@CubanRider]

I thought I had clicked on a video from a different channel, so I was skipping to the race portion, until I realized where I was and started watching from the very beginning. The production quality is thru the roof as usual, thoroughly enjoyable.

[@truckerrickakamanowar]

Wow!!! The production in this video is world class. Well done!

[@johnnyd4200]

What’s actually well done about the video just editing that’s all I see

[@XploreAz]

@@johnnyd4200 what else is there?

[@truckerrickakamanowar]

@@johnnyd4200 I'm not an expert. I'm just your average person/car guy that enjoys entertaining, fun to watch video done in a tight professional well edited way. I don't know the guy in the video, but I think he was entertaining. It kept me watching. In the end it's all about view traffic and these guys along with many channels these days on KZbin....you got to bring your A game. I felt this channel does. But I'm a nobody with an opinion. Cheers! Have a great one.

[@sushifish3047]

These edits are so awesome swear y'all the closest thing we got to OG top gear

[@fernank017]

these are far better than whatever the BBC was producing.

[@solocamo3654]

That bronco run was just to shame Acura for this mistake and I'm here for it.

[@Jayboy.210tx]

I would take the old ITR zany day!! Type r👍🏼👍🏼💪🏼

[@pablom2274]

They compare a NA motor with some boring turbo engines and call them faster lol.

[@wolf-xf6hf]

I’d love to see a comparison of the cars cornering abilities

[@jking3684]

I bet night and day difference against the other 2

[@P_ounds]

Elantra N wins every time.

[@dericanslum1696]

...you're looking for U-Drags...

[@realnapster1522]

Exactly. Integra is not built for straight line speed. But that 1.5 Turbo really lets it down. Why they didn’t give it the 2 liter turbo?

[@TheKiltedYaksman1]

Given VW's normal practices for the past few decades, the Jetta has more like 250-260hp at the crank, and not the advertised 228. It is not uncommon for them to make as much, or more, on a chassis dyno than the crank rating.

[@RichLifeStories]

I wonder if VW numbers are more toward WHP (Wheel horsepower)

[@jg5001]

I can see 250 at the crank, but that's way different than whp.

[@TheKiltedYaksman1]

@@jg5001, the highest I have seen in a video was 234 whp. Unless VW is working some real magic with their driveline efficiency, that translates to ~260 at the crank.

[@xtrekrex]

Damn the Elantra N can seriously move!!

[@karmahunden]

Back in 2006 I was running 13.7 @ 100mph in a stock, fat 3650lbs Mazdaspeed 6 (6MT only) and it was the best. The GTI back then trapped 97mph. How is a new integra THAT slow. This category should be ashamed of itself. These cars should be trapping 105-110mph in this day and age.

[@Itsjamilagain]

The Integra was never a Mazdaspeed competitor. If the Civic SI is slow, then yes, the Integra will be slow also. And 105-110? For the base version of a *very* entry level sport sedan? That's unreasonable.

[@koopatroopa187]

2.3L in a hopped up trim model designed for straight-line speed vs a 1.5L base model economy car? Great comparison there.

[@grudzien9784]

And I just wanted to add, what a show! Just wow 🤩

[@GetIrked]

Outstanding video! I must admit I was thinking, “wow, 21 years of development and the new Integra BARELY beats the old one?!” right before Jason pointed out that very fact. 😂 Also, man, is the Hyundai quick! It’s just a shame it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every single branch on its way down. Yuck! Thanks for an AWESOME video, team! 😀👍

[@NvSrAgE679]

We should also point out that the Elantra N doesn’t belong in this race. It’s not it’s class. They should have used the N-line and not the N. the Integra and Si are in the same class as the N-line. The Elantra N is in the same class as the newer Type R’s.

[@josephdoyle7114]

I agree, it feels like Hyundai tried to make it have an R8 look from the front but it just ended up being ugly

[@shamalabadingdong]

@@NvSrAgE679 Costs less than most Integra trims. It's just a much better car so it compares against more expensive cars but this is the right price category.

[@NvSrAgE679]

@@shamalabadingdong price category has nothing to do with racing against cars in its class. Just cause you build a cheaper car doesn’t meant you get to drop classes on race day.

[@shamalabadingdong]

@@NvSrAgE679 sensible people compare products mainly off of their price because money is generally what dictates their buying choices. Obviously the integra is more luxury and less performance focused, but this video is meant to show what the car brings to the table from a performance stand point. You can get much more performance for the same dollar which shows the integra is pretty far behind it's segment in just performance. Again, it's more than a bare bones performance car so that's okay but it is obviously the weakest performance car. Saying that it needs to be compared to cars way cheaper than itself is like saying a dumb 8th grader should be compared to 6th graders because he's dumb 😂. The Integra is compared to other $30k cars because it is a $30k car. It's kind of pathetic already that a $30k car needs to be compared to a low $20k car to make it look passable. If you're talking about racing/autocross classes sure. Only issue is in the real world you're paying real money. No one is comparing $30k cars to $20k cars just because the $30k car is so bad that it needs to be compared to a $20k car. That already proves that it's outmatched from a performance stand point.

[@otavionovaes5865]

I have a question though, is the new Integra fun? That's more difficult nowadays than quarter miles.

[@trikynikky5772]

If you think the new Civic Si is fun, then you will probably think the new Teggy is at least kind of fun

[@samuelpmoran]

For daily driving, it's a blast. I seriously love it. If you want something that's great on the track, get the Hyundai. For daily driving? Easily the Integra. It's very comfortable, all of the controls just make sense, and the sound system is unrivaled in its class. It's subdued and pleasant when you want it to be and plenty fast when you want to have fun.

[@dakota2610]

It's fun for a nice commuter car, but it's not Mazda Miata fun if that's what you're looking for.

[@mauricebarry8858]

I love the interior of the Volkswagen and Elantra, the looks of the Acura, and the value of the Volkswagen and Elantra. I just don’t think the Acura is worth it in terms of price against the Elantra and VW. Plus the other cars are faster.. what a waste, Honda.

[@shiftinggears9842]

I agree.. Only thing the honda is better at is shifter feel but is not enough

[@akeemd2120]

You are totally correct

[@Itsjamilagain]

Why is it always about speed? If you want to go fast at this price point, you are not buying any of these cars, aside from maybe the N.

[@Turtle_Legs]

@@Itsjamilagain Speed isn't everything, but overtake power is. This is gonna be most people's daily and at that price, I don't want to be redlining on the highway trying to overtake a minivan. Granted this is the luxury division, so it's gonna be more expensive than the VW and Hyundai regardless, but for price they should have given it a bit more bite.

[@Itsjamilagain]

@@Turtle_Legs 0-60 in 6.6 is more than enough to overtake on the highway. Objectively speaking, it is not a slow car. I fail to understand what everyone is expecting from a car with a 1.5T.

[@turdzilla1675]

I'd love to see how the GLI would do with better tires.

[@amensartep117]

GLI is all about DSG not tyres and manual

[@Tiralful]

My 2020 GTI did 12.6@119 with a piggy back and down pipe 💁🏻

[@amensartep117]

@@Tiralful i did 12.9 with my mk7 GLI with hankook and a downpipe DSG is really good in low gears could easly gap genesis 3.8 with big ass v6

[@cjg200154]

Indy 500 firehawks and a piggy back and it still will spin 1st, 2nd if the surface isnt good

[@turdzilla1675]

@@amensartep117 the Tires are absolutely an important part of a good 1/4 mile. Shitty tires will have you spinning on launch.

[@esthertrue8665]

I love how these are supposed to be "compacts" regulations got us running around in Cadillacs.

[@HarmanMotorWorks]

Traction control on that Elantra N is masterful. And 5.1s from the manual...that's better than factory claims 😯

[@claudemartin7785]

Man Hyundai is getting all the Fun now-a-days. Good for them but it still weird

[@Velotooslow]

Not weird at all, they had it back then with the genny even tho it wasn’t the greatest but since they got an old BMW dude to help them make cars he did a good job bringing the N and they have made Awesome cars

[@unexplainedwearenotalone3537]

N performance best stability flat sound real sport top of all

[@tbm275]

Screw the drag race, take them around the corners to see how they handle! I know the new one is faster because it has more torque and power under the curve. But I would take the old one in a heartbeat because it would handle like a dream being light and focused.

[@longboardguy]

That and the old one doesn’t look like a bar of soap in shape either

[@bullish1920]

@@longboardguy 😂

[@nstylemotorsportsracing1471]

I miss my 98 GSR! It was the best and most reliable car I’ve ever owned to this day. I would also take the old ITR over the new Acura not only is it a better drivers car it would definitely sell for a small fortune!

[@tbm275]

@@nstylemotorsportsracing1471 I just had a base 94 Integra RS 2 door hatchback and it was the most fun and simple car I had. It was so playful and light on it's feet that it turned in exceptionally well and barely understeered.

[@nstylemotorsportsracing1471]

@@tbm275 It’s such a shame what they have done to the new Acura! I can’t bring myself to call it an integra. I wish Honda would be a bit more bold and take after Hyundai. They easily could have made a high revving 2 door sports car maybe with at least 250 bhp. I understand why they basically just made a civic with lipstick on it but looking at what Hyundai is doing having many exciting cars sonata, Elantra N, Veloster N, Kona N and all the N lines! Honda is kinda letting me down.

[@jackmiller7052]

We have lost a lot of car reviewers to spec sheets and interior features over the last several years. Many car reviewers have found ways to dull audiences even in high performance vehicles. I appreciate hagerty for keeping the audience engaged and doing the most to entertain. This gentlemen does a great job and the production team is top notch. Cheers

[@thegirthquake8574]

As an owner of the Elantra's platform sister car (the Forte GT Manual), you can counter that wheel hop with a stiffer rear engine mount.

[@ricardocuevas7815]

"It's hideous. These cars are all ugly"! Damn Cammisa you nailed that one! SOOOOOO true! And I STILL don't care of the "new" Integra is faster.

[@jponz85]

Looks are subjective. I still think that elantra looks dope

[@kamallb4650]

@@jponz85 it looks the worst Imo.

[@gerardoramon9270]

Elantra is ugly..and im disappointed in acura/honda..20+yrs and it barely beat the old integra..and sedan. ?? Everything about Honda has been weird they left their performance for the new civic type r 310

[@dougrobinson8602]

@@kamallb4650 It looks like a catfish in the front end. I'm sure it's a blast to drive, just don't put a mirror in front of it in your garage.

[@TinLeadHammer]

The old Integra is not a beauty queen either.

[@elantran]

Drag racing is cool but where these cars really shine is on the full track! At least one of them does for sure and I know that from my own experience. Haha Amazing production quality as always. I love watching your videos!

[@mdinelle]

Agreed. I think the Honda have the edge just with their suspension designs. In such a competition, I think the ITR would still be very competitive.

[@ctcdarkness]

@@mdinelleit wouldn’t even be close in all reality. The Elantra N would absolutely demolish all 3 of the other vehicles. The EN was bred to handle well and to be a track weapon.

[@mdinelle]

@@ctcdarkness nice marketing talk.

[@Alan-lw4kk]

@@mdinelle nice bubble you live in

[@CU08]

With the Type-S duds and this new Integra, Acura has made it abundantly clear that they're simply incapable of making fast cars. Reliable? Sure. Good looking? They are to me. Fun to drive? Absolutely. But literally every single Acura is dead last in their segment as far as speed and performance goes. Sad.

[@MidnightAspec]

As soon as Honda bean counters finally have their way, they’ll unwind the Acura brand and only sell CRV, Pilots and HRVs. YAY!!

[@Itsjamilagain]

So the cars are fun to drive, but that's not enough for you? I presume you are saving up for a Hellcat?

[@donnerblitzen1388]

Wonderful! There are tons of people who will quickly get their own ones now that they know that! Some people just enjoy the drive for what it is, moving without moving your own body. Always up and about with 0-60 numbers, boost levels, fart can pricing for 1999 Honda civics, but they never just give a road a good enjoyable drive. Always in a rush..never a cruise.

[@loganamurray64]

They’re not even reliable anymore, like half the models are having a ton of electrical issues

[@koopatroopa187]

Hate to break it to you dude, but Hondas have never been fast and I say this as someone who has owned three cars with a Type R badge. They've always been slow, fun to drive cars. You want a fast car? Go find something with a V8 in it.

[@jeremydemoe7508]

The storytelling is incredible most KZbin Chanel’s these days lack this. What a video

[@rodrigoarcangelo9671]

I realy want to see both integras but doing laps on a track, loves the editing!!

[@zareff]

Well, now that I've driven the new Integra out in the real world, there is no way I'm getting a Jetta or an Elantra no matter how much quicker they are. It's one of the best riding quality manual transmistion cars on sale. It's not cheap by any means.. especially now that dealers want 5k mark up for everything.

[@seraphdiscgolf]

My 2005 Acura RSX Type S is faster than the new Integra. Acura really dropped the ball on this new Integra. The new Civic Type R is on it's own planet right now. Curious to see what the Integra Type S brings to the table. Hopefully the Type S can redeem the Integra. EDIT: Regardless of the Type S, the base RSX is still as fast as the new Integra based on their quarter mile times.

[@Superdimensional]

Wait for the Type S of the new integra next year…. Then compare apples to apples.

[@worldssickestmedia2713]

It's too damn big. It's like a 4 door Accord with some styling Ques from the old Integra. And it doesn't appear to be that much faster. With the recent jump in car prices, horsepower and technology it should be way faster. It's a Honda so I'm sure it's a great car. But super disappointed. They got rid of everything that made the Integra cool. Which was Tiny little car with a hot azz little engine. This new car is huge.

[@seraphdiscgolf]

@@Superdimensional I did say, I’m curious to see what the new Integra Type S brings to the table. … but the 2005 Acura RSX & 2023 Acura Integra have a very similar 1/4 quarter mile time, you would expect the 2023 to be a little bit better than it’s previous predecessor. I doubt the Integra Type S will be as fast as the CTR, since the CTR carries the Type R badge. & for the record, I’m just disappointed in the new Integra… my first car was a ‘95 Integra & I got a ‘05 Type S… so was hoping this would make me take the next step into the Integra line up… but it doesn’t do it for me… yet.

[@seraphdiscgolf]

@@worldssickestmedia2713 yeah, I have hope that the Type S will be a coupe version & it’ll redeem the Integra name. One can only hope!

[@stephbarbershop2518]

2 doors would help redeem the integra.

[@johnacton2312]

“The Integra Type R with legendary handling…” Only runs it in a drag race.

[@soapa4279]

"Camisa's Ultimate Drag Race Replay" Eventually they will do a track review, in a separate segment.

[@TheFK8Life]

A car has to accelerate and shows you how anemic the ITR is in todays market That was the fastest thing to wear an Integra badge before and got beat by a base model of today - the current Civic Type R runs low 13s@105-108mph depending on temps/weather and decimates all previous Type Rs The new Civic Type R also crushes the handling of the ITR ....so drag times matter and show power

[@ARCNA442]

@@TheFK8Life Calling the new Integra in this episode a "base model" is not accurate - the base model comes with a CVT and an open diff. To get the manual and the performance features, you have to spring for the top trim. Which, at over $35k, costs basically as much as a Civic Type R.

[@TheFK8Life]

@@ARCNA442 Its not a Type S - its just a base. The trims have always been like this RS/LS/GS and then the GS-R and then Type R The base models are the lowest hp with the GSR aka Type S models being above them

[@soapa4279]

@@ARCNA442 The Civic Type R is not going to be $35K lol. The new one might end up being $42K. And that's not even considering the stealership mark ups.

[@EnhancedNightmare]

I'm blown by the editing here, you guys surpass any TV programs I've seen.

[@kasrasami714]

I was sitting in cafe, clicked on your video and I ran outside to my car and grab my headphones to hear better.this is how excited I get when I see hagerty and I still haven't watched it,lol

[@contraband1543]

This is a fun video. Great job guys there needs to be more of this fun stuff instead of companies being so serious about themselves

[@joshuathomas512]

Elantra N is an awesome fun car and a great value compared to the competition, really impressive

[@S7ayMelo]

I just wish they put that engine in and exhaust system into a less ugly and rwd platform

[@pan4632]

Too bad the top post on r/cars the other day was about someone's elantra N engine blowing up after 1700 miles. Great car for the money but I hope Hyundai improves their reliability.

[@mauricebarry8858]

@@pan4632 I’ve never heard of that. I think that person may have did something wrong.

[@MrCdnAudiophile]

​@@mauricebarry8858 You are also a stupid person to think thatss not synonymous with Hyundai's....They blow up all the time and are KNOWN for it.

[@pan4632]

@@mauricebarry8858 the OP confirmed that he followed break in guidelines. The engine blew after hitting 6k RPM well after the break in period was over.

[@richardw64]

I can't say i was surprised the Elantra won. Great show. Keep em coming.

[@NvSrAgE679]

Of course it did. It’s racing two cars in the class below it. The Si and Integra are in the same class with the N-line not the N. The Elantra N is in the same class as the newer Type R’s. So why is it even in the video?

[@richardw64]

@@NvSrAgE679 As I said, I can't say I was surprised. Save your anger for Hagerty.

[@harrisonhale9691]

Definitely need to do this again when the Integra Type-S comes out!!!

[@leerosky]

I think this would’ve been a better comparison or fair play I’d say if the Elantra was the N-Line instead. The Elantra N is better suited for the Type-R Civic that is coming out along with the Corolla GR Turbo or a WRX, even the Golf R. Now did I enjoy the video? Heck yeah I did. All your recent videos I have seen are great. Keep up the great work!! Looking forward for more exciting content.

[@slasheerr946]

So in short, Elantra N is exceptionally great car for being under 35K and it comes with a really fast DCT and amazing exhaust!!

[@milkyy4168]

A really rough car to daily but if you were gonna do what hyundai did to make it a great track car, it would be the same anyways. Good value.

[@cesarvieceli2958]

@@milkyy4168 I Daily it with no problem, the seats are very comfortable actually and on ECO mode the consumption is average.

[@RebelPMP]

We will have to wait and see when the Integra Type S comes out. Comparing a base model to performance models yielded expected results

[@Itz_JayM]

I said this back when they first announced the hp and torque ratings for the civic si and integra that they were at least 25-30 to low to match the competition. They could have easily bumped up the power without overshadowing the new type r

[@sigmaprojects]

Honda also employs a lower powered 2.0T version of the motor in I think the Accord. To me that should have been the base model in the new Integra. I just have no idea who would really want a new Integra.

[@GROGU123]

Yes, but given the current nature of the gas price market. The Honda 1.5T is a great compromise in performance to fuel usage.

[@eulogy1981]

That's normal Honda has always sold low hp cars up until the new type R 2.0 every other type r have an been in the 200hp low range

[@sigmaprojects]

@@eulogy1981 You mean they've kept the 200~hp range for so long and now being out shined by others. 90's for the power/weight ratio 160~200hp was great. Now a days with cars bigger and heavier 200hp isn't a lot to compete with.

[@sigmaprojects]

​@@GROGU123 If that's what the customers want, can't argue against it. But I don't think people care about a couple MPG vs fun when selecting a sports car. GR86 went the opposite direction, they made the car have worse MPG for the sake of fun. They get it.

[@grubby9037]

Considering the 2001 integra has a na 1.8 4 banger and the new one has a turbo 1.5, the og one did rly well

[@MrSamPhoenix]

Great video! I can’t wait for the Acura Integra Type-S review.

[@LethalVenom02]

awesome video! honestly with the old integra you can literally turbo charge it and it will kill the new integra. the fact that the 25 year old integra was only .2 seconds slower is pretty good LOL also that turbo charged 98 integra type would give the n and gti a run for its money. sadly with the new integra i was hoping for it to honor the old bodystyle that 2 door 4 cyclinder sports car. at least 250hp or something in the range of the golf and jetta.

[@Itsjamilagain]

You're comparing the new base model to the old performance model. Still not a fair comparison. Also, I've never been a fan of the whole "slap a turbo on it" thing. You can put a turbo on anything. A slower car, is a slower car.

[@_Zekken]

Its not too incorrect for it to be a sedan, the 3rd gen Integra and previous gens also came in sedan form, even in Type R spec. (DB8 Type R) only the DC5 Integra didnt come in a sedan form (RSX in the US)

[@King_riotv]

Slap a turbo on the new integra and then what? Your point makes no sense, any car can be tuned to be fast if you have a bias just say your biased but creating extra excuses to why a stock base model beat a performance model is ridiculous

[@cptnsx]

@@King_riotv the new integra ALREADY has a turbo GENIUS

[@lordgriselbrand4600]

@@cptnsx stock turbo barely counts

[@juakinwages8562]

i would love to see the time attack between all these cars, straight lines only tell half the story. either way honda really dropped the ball on their entire lineup

[@jponz85]

Half the story... lol dude the honda would be dead last. Period

[@juakinwages8562]

@@jponz85 im talking in reference to the ITR and the new Integra. Check out the old video from the 90's with an r32 GTR and an ITR at a short track, just because a car is fast in a straight line or on a large track, doesn't mean it will always dominate, id imagine that tall gearing on the jetta would be an issue

[@jponz85]

@@juakinwages8562 I'd say the old integra type r would still own this new integra on the track

[@juakinwages8562]

@@jponz85 THATS what i wanted to see! lol

[@jovani6044]

Massive respect to Hyundai for creating a real competitive sedan as the Elantra N

[@hectorfuji]

No way, my 99 prelude dis 15.0-15.5 stock in the 1/4 and Integras Type R where clocking 14.3-14.6 back back then.

[@vded13]

Oh man, that’s maybe the best quality I’ve ever seen for a drag race! You guys are way more professional than CarWow! Even though most of the American cars don’t come in Europe so are irrelevant to us, it’s a joy to watch your videos! Many greetings from 🇬🇷!!

[@shingoose6197]

Another great video by Cammisa and the team! Although I cannot help but miss Revelations right now...maybe one on that yellow Integra Type R?

[@JasonCammisa]

Not yet! I miss doing Revelations, but schedule-wise it's been on hold because we've been doing so many CUDRRs and ICONs. But hang tight, hopefully doing another couple this coming month.

[@shingoose6197]

@@JasonCammisa I'm always eager for all of your content, Jason! Thanks for doing such a great job on everything (to you and to your amazing team)!

[@dln.sweeney]

@@JasonCammisa I second the wish for an ITR Revelations

[@alexcducati76]

I get the theme of the series is drag racing….. but c’mon, that Type R deserved a spin around the track against the new “Integra.”

[@kevinchung1492]

I believe there will be an Icon episode coming with both car on the track?

[@JasonCammisa]

@@kevinchung1492 Sadly not, the drag race is all we had time to do with the ITR. I did one lap in between takes, and it was magic - though the shocks are near-seized on this ultra-low-mile museum car. Given the super-sticky tires on it, I have no doubt that the ITR would be quicker around Willow - but I was certainly not going to risk putting a stone chip on this particular one!

[@mojojojo_BB]

@@JasonCammisa What about the other 3 cars then? Acceleration is only one part of a vehicles dynamics.

[@JasonCammisa]

@@mojojojo_BB That's a different show. GLI now comes on all-season tires that are so bad it's not competitive in any performance metric. With a major tire upgrade, it's quite good. But not as good as the Hyundai. Elantra N is magic: stiff when it needs to be, huge grip, good balance, great composure - by a mile the best dynamics of the group. Integra is, like GLI, on all-season tires, but isn't bad, especially on public roads. Hyundai kills it here by about the same margin as comparing an Evora and a Camry.

[@alexcducati76]

Sorry Jason, didn’t mean to start trouble 😂

[@standingwithfaith4813]

Hyundai's doing really great these days. Impressive.

[@gigi9467]

Engines catching on fire and all..

[@disco.lemonade]

Are they, tho? They just making cars go quicker at the expense of their already so-so reliability. And their vomit-inducing, avant-garde designs are horrendous. Not all, of course, but some models are incredibly... for 16-21 yo, basically. They're slowly going back to their weird looking designs from early 2000s

[@gigi9467]

@@disco.lemonade agree

[@willp4763]

I'm 40 and drive an EN that has 15k trouble free miles on it that I drive like an Altima. She takes it like a champ and asks for more without breaking a sweat but go on dumbass.

[@markg7213]

@@disco.lemonade lol It’s just not quicker. Their cars are actually track capable. Not like other car makers that market their car as “track weapons” when they can’t handle a couple of laps. Reliability has been better recently, but the fact is there is no other car at 35k, that offers this level of performance and convenience. Sure you have muscle cars, but you’ll have to stick with a coupe and pay extra for packages to make them as confidence inspiring as the Elantra

[@LilDee004]

Wow, would love to get a few pointers from the camera and editing crew. Their production levels unmatched on KZbin 👍🏽✊🏽

[@MitchZero9]

0:04 Neutral Drop would be proud

[@doug186]

You guys went next level on the video production. Races were 🔥

[@joshvega4906]

The type r must be pretty worn down because a 15.2 in a 1/4 is pretty slow for a type r. I mean 14.8 was on the slow side when they came out. Most people ran mid 14s

[@_Ty__]

The cluster shows it has 6k miles. I wouldn’t exactly call that worn down.

[@joshvega4906]

@Erik W yeah my own eyes. Friends that had them in the early 2000s.

[@ravenheart369]

I like the rear end of the Integra. It reminds me of Genesis Coupe. Anyways, thank you Hagerty for creating such an entertaining content

[@bfab3162]

I really want to see a driving “ASMR” type video where it’s just the cars, the driving, and the mechanical noises associated with motoring. I’m asking this of Hagerty because your production quality, editing, and camera tricks are absolutely stunning , or at least that’s all I can say… no English word can describe how beautiful these productions are.

[@A4rings110]

Agreed, but not with these cars lol

[@davidw7531]

I cannot BELIEVE how much the new "Integra" Looks like a Hyundai Genesis Coupe from the back. staggering.

[@driftaw]

Great cinematography again. Amazing transition @ 2m41 ! Wow Kudos to the whole team.

[@ryanweddle6745]

It would be interesting to test this in an autocross or even track environment. I know it's little brother the Civic si stomps both of the other cars in an autocross environment. It's legit a great autocross car despite it's size and lack of outright HP. The sum is better than the parts.

[@nickval5962]

Amazing, I love anything to do with Cammisa on this channel. As for the new Integra, we haven't seen the Type-S/R yet so we can't really speak on that yet. However, I would take the new Integra over the GLI and Elantra N. It just looks better inside and out IMO, very simple and functional

[@Intrigued_Goose]

These videos are the best, Best car vids on KZbin by far, Keep these coming Hagerty

[@kadenjenkins1076]

I can’t believe I was actually at the track when they filmed this.

[@SnowiLuxi]

Jason you're really spoiling us lately with all this amazing drag races 🤗

[@JasonCammisa]

I'm spoiling myself. These are fun. :)

[@SnowiLuxi]

@@JasonCammisa yeah. We're not jealous at all 🤣

[@tizodd6]

Can we pause to appreciate how far cars have come in the last decade or so? There are four sub $100k cars faster than the 2004 Gallardo on the list. EVs scare me though. They're pretty much reaching our limits of traction already. I honestly don't know how much faster cars can realistically get...

[@TheKiltedYaksman1]

With a burnout to heat the off the shelf Michelin PS4s, the Rimac Nevera is an 8-second car. Everybody else has some catching up to do.

[@singular9]

Yes, but actually no. Considering inflation, the top of the line integra cost back then what the base integra cost today, and thats considering the fact that integra type R's are rare! What is actually happening is the new integra type r if there ever is one, would cost nearly 50k USD, that is toyota supra and nissan z territory, and if you really want a sedan, you are pushing Audi S series cars with dedicated AWD, etc. The question isn't how good cars have gotten, but the fact that the prices have also gone up faster than inflation, meaning that you are essentially getting your money's worth, but you are also being ripped off since your 30K usd doesn't get you a whole lot more today than it did 10-20 years ago. Think about it, what does a 30k camry in 2002 have that a new 30k camry has today? Mostly everything is still useable. 4 cylinder engine, gearbox, a comfortable ride and pretty good reliability and safety. Sure it doesn't have THE TECH but who cares right?

[@jeffk464]

I think I heard the fastest tesla models accelerate fast enough that they can actually make you dizzy. Not sure that's a great idea. Personally I have plenty of fun in my GTI, I'm sure I could have a blast in the GT86, I don't need a 2 second car.

[@idokwatcher2062]

Acceleration advanced, but everything else got worse. EPS, rev hang, soft rubbery clutches and shift linkages for "ease of use".

[@ARCNA442]

@@singular9 Except that after factoring inflation out, modern cars are actually significantly cheaper than they used to be. That 2001 Integra Type R cost $22,600, which works out to $37.6k in today's money - in other words, it cost more than the new Integra while being slower, less efficient, and having a fraction of the features. You can try to claim that all "THE TECH" is useless and no one wants it, but that's just silly. The vast majority of car buyers appreciate having navigation, media players, hands free phone calls, back up cameras, blind spot warnings, adaptive cruise, etc...

[@AdolfoWWolf]

Well i'm entertained here! Great video guys

[@PutinIsKing]

The Integra Type R has good acceleration for 21 year old car, but where their lightness really shines is in corners, there is where new intergra lack lightness and double wishbone suspension, Sadly they did not compare it in corners maybe because up to today Intrgra is holding some serious records

[@aluisious]

Wow 6.6s to 60! That's slightly faster than my 2006 RAV4 V6.

[@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree]

My moms 2017 RDX would spank the new integra that's what's sad lol

[@Toymonkeyjr]

speed doesn't matter, you can always make a car faster in the aftermarket. What the new Integra gets wrong is looks and driving experience/feel.

[@sigmaprojects]

not after ruining your warranty sure. Majority of people will not modify their car after buying it new. But I agree, just looks boring. He calls the Hyundai ugly, which I think it is, but at least its striking.

[@Toymonkeyjr]

@@sigmaprojects Really depends, most engine mods are easily reversible especially when talking software or bolt ons. But that wasn't my point that are people are going to do it, obviously most people buying a car new are keeping it stock. But my point is the thing they got wrong was the feel, it just feels like a honda civic.

[@sigmaprojects]

@@Toymonkeyjr I haven't driven one myself, but that's what I would assume too. It's way too close to a Civic with extra luxury. I just personally not sure who the target demographic is for this car. They tried to play up the Integra heritage which was all about being a sports car, like that's what the legend was built on, the two door model being a beast on the track, bout it. But it's like a 5 door kind of luxury, kind of sporty car? For $40K+ at that price range just seems kind of pointless. They were comparing it to other FWD cars with some pep, but those two cars are much cheaper. It should be compared with something more like an Audi A3 or the like. But if they're comparing the Integra to the VW and Hyundai because it has a stick that just shows that Acura/Honda is kind of missing the point of what an Integra is suppose to be in the public's eyes. And even if they know that already, it's just confusing why they're trying to do by making a more luxury tarted up Civic. It just fills a weird space of luxury/not luxury.

[@Toymonkeyjr]

@@sigmaprojects Yep, agreed. i think it fits the audience that wants a civic in a suit. They want reliability and professionalism but prefer honda over toyota like acura over lexus. It makes sense but it's more of a misnomer. It's really just what the Acura TL was 10 years ago compared to the civic, same relation between the corolla and the lexus IS. They should have had a different name, but used the Integra name to get interest, when it's really just an Acura that is a suited up civic. Car companies love to do that nowadays, like with the 'mustang' mach e.

[@sigmaprojects]

@@Toymonkeyjr Acura TL was more of a serious luxury Accord, not a civic. Back then they didn't have an Acura version of the Civic in the US, in Canada they had the Acura EL which was a civic with very slight changes to a Civic EX. The Acura TLX replaced the TL and it's a proper evolution. Last Acura TL had an optional 300hp AWD model with the 3.7L V6. New TLX has optional twin turbo V6 AWD. They're much more serious luxury saloons trying to go after Audi. The Integra, I don't know just seem like a very niche market car, I'm guess they'll be happy selling maybe ~10K to 15K of these a year (Similar to the ILX). Then after a run of it will say it doesn't sell well enough, buyers just don't want a luxury sports car.

[@kibawhitefang7176]

Looking at all these, 👀 certainly I must say I love my RSX Type-S 🏁♥️🙌🏻 And I’m keeping it.

[@ExploringWithChristopher]

who asked

[@ehsankhan3917]

when I watched sport cars comparison from this channel & specially him. I will be in another world to seat behind one of sport car and race with him. Ford Bronco looks cool to be part of the video and showed how quick it will be in the dirt. Love you

[@TrIpMo1981]

I recently found this channel. I love your video editing (the slow mo, freezing and being out the car etc). Subscribed, keep it up.

[@thekingandi1705]

I give it to Acura, they have successfully made the slowest car in each segment. I commend them for the this as consistency is consistency.

[@mptboi7284]

tlx rdx mdx integ all slow in its class lol