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@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын
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@fgtrdfgtyh5755
@fgtrdfgtyh5755 Жыл бұрын
Su 57 vs F104 Starfighter lol
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
Please fly The AV-8B VS F-35B guns only Dogfight!🙏👍
@keithhoss4990
@keithhoss4990 Жыл бұрын
Even though it was a slaughter it was still a fun video to watch! 👍
@verticalfracture
@verticalfracture Жыл бұрын
can we get a battle of the thicc girls the F-15 vs F-35
@Confederate_States_of_America
@Confederate_States_of_America Жыл бұрын
Could you please do I dogfight between the p-26 and the su-57
@EB-vz1ob
@EB-vz1ob Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who is a retired Viper driver and was in the Aggressor squadron. Several years ago I asked him about the Strike Eagle. He laughed and said, "yeah, we used to stay out of burner to be nice!"
@rhysgoodman7628
@rhysgoodman7628 Жыл бұрын
Damn that must burn for the Mudhen guys! Though they are pretty much bombers anyway.
@StrikeEagleDriver69
@StrikeEagleDriver69 Жыл бұрын
@@rhysgoodman7628 It doesn't bother us at all. The vipers are usually dead before they see us. It pays to have the best radar. ;)
@Flyingcircustailwheel
@Flyingcircustailwheel Жыл бұрын
​@@StrikeEagleDriver69you need two men for everything though! 😂
@StrikeEagleDriver69
@StrikeEagleDriver69 Жыл бұрын
@@Flyingcircustailwheel Who do you call when you need the most equipment carried? Two men and a (bomb)truck. 🤣
@Mb-cn8ql
@Mb-cn8ql Жыл бұрын
Can we just acknowledge the aero modeling at 10:00 watching the vertical fins shake like that while you’re uncoordinated? Impressive modeling from the developer.
@timmy3822
@timmy3822 Жыл бұрын
I hope the quality of this module dispels the opinion of many that Razbam are “bad” module devs. They had their missteps sure but this thing is an absolute work of art.
@christianperez8037
@christianperez8037 Жыл бұрын
yes he already did a video covering the small details on the f15e
@Laerei
@Laerei Жыл бұрын
I over-Gd the Strike Eagle hard and was suprised to see that the wings had become bent upwards. And it didn't control as good anymore.
@jimlthor
@jimlthor Жыл бұрын
​@@Laereidamn. I wanna see that
@termitreter6545
@termitreter6545 Жыл бұрын
@@Laerei F-14 has some stuff like that as well. F16/18 are pretty lacking in their damage model, sadly.
@Tuuvas
@Tuuvas Жыл бұрын
Solution: give your WSO a pistol and pop the canopy. That'll stand a better chance at getting bullets where they need to be lol
@andreasvogel5644
@andreasvogel5644 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jimlthor
@jimlthor Жыл бұрын
Going back to WWI strats. We've come full circle
@Easy-Eight
@Easy-Eight Жыл бұрын
I can see the proposal to congress to retro-fit Strike Eagles with Lewis Guns and an adapted "high tech" MG mount from a Bristfit.
@recoilrob324
@recoilrob324 Жыл бұрын
After watching a bunch of these videos I'm wondering just what the guy in back is supposed to be doing? Isn't the weapons deployment HIS job?
@alexturnqest6202
@alexturnqest6202 Жыл бұрын
Not the ww1 recon plane tactics.😂😢
@gustavolrcoelho
@gustavolrcoelho Жыл бұрын
"It's called a STRIKE Eagle, not a DOGFIGHT Eagle, God damn It!" - Some project engineer at Boeing, probably.
@kasrakhatir
@kasrakhatir Ай бұрын
*Cue Pentagon Wars theme
@lorenzotelleria4200
@lorenzotelleria4200 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video comparing the C an E model in a dogfight? Would be cool too see the difference in capabilities as dogfighters.
@rango_gt
@rango_gt Жыл бұрын
considering the e has cft and the c doesent it should be pretty clear but itll be fun to watch
@SaftonYT
@SaftonYT Жыл бұрын
@@rango_gt CFT?
@user-rs1fo2dd9b
@user-rs1fo2dd9b Жыл бұрын
@@SaftonYT control flight thruster
@cabreraman6969
@cabreraman6969 Жыл бұрын
​@rango_tf CFTs can be added to both the C and E and without the CFTs the E version is as almost as maneuverable as the C but with higher thrust
@RAAFLightning1
@RAAFLightning1 Жыл бұрын
Welll... this fight is like a nascar vs an F1 car. Built for different purposes. The viper should win every time, if the pilot knows what they are doing.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын
Not just win, should win handsomely
@AnthonytheAmerican
@AnthonytheAmerican Жыл бұрын
As a NASCAR and Viper Fan this comparison makes me oddly happy
@geod5
@geod5 Жыл бұрын
​@@AnthonytheAmerican IM GUNNA DRIVE STRAIT, AND THEN IM GUNNA TURN TO THE LEFT SOME TIMES.
@AnthonytheAmerican
@AnthonytheAmerican Жыл бұрын
@@geod5 yeah well at least NASCAR has passing
@BARelement
@BARelement Жыл бұрын
NASCAR did Le Mans recently.
@keithhoss4990
@keithhoss4990 Жыл бұрын
The Strike Eagle (among those in the know) is notorious for poor acceleration and bleeds off energy very quickly in the high g environment. No match for the viper in a dogfight.
@SPFLDAngler
@SPFLDAngler Жыл бұрын
High g for the Eagle is 4
@keithhoss4990
@keithhoss4990 Жыл бұрын
@@SPFLDAngler Yeah, isn’t max G for a Beagle 6.5?
@Coole501
@Coole501 Жыл бұрын
@@keithhoss4990 max on a clean E model is 9, same as the other F-15 models. Now once you start slapping ordnance on it’s a different story, but the HUD reads out the calculated G max based on loadout and in this video you can see it is reading out 9 since the only thing loaded are a couple AIM-9s.
@kaijohnson5033
@kaijohnson5033 Жыл бұрын
@@keithhoss4990the C model will rate with a Viper all day long if the pilot knows what he’s doing. The mudhen is a pig.
@keithhoss4990
@keithhoss4990 Жыл бұрын
@@kaijohnson5033 Yeah, I know. And we called the Viper a lawn dart. Are you C model or Viper? No one in the F-35 or F-22 calls the fourth Gen names. 😂 The Mudhen is the most Capable CAS aircraft known to man.
@therocinante3443
@therocinante3443 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, I didn't expect it to be such a big difference from the C. I guess the conformal tanks and all that extra weight are a much bigger hit to the BFM characteristics than I imagined.
@beetlusjuicus4013
@beetlusjuicus4013 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s more of the cfts weight and drag than the planes weight itself as the engines are a lot better than the f15cs
@Ghoster311
@Ghoster311 Жыл бұрын
The cft’s also put g limits on the aircraft that are crippling.
@termitreter6545
@termitreter6545 Жыл бұрын
@@beetlusjuicus4013 The F-15E itself is also heavier, its structure and wings had to be strengthened to carry heavy bomb loads. CFTs matter with drag, though, thats true. You see those pylons sticking out of the CFTs at awkward angles? They are apparently incredibly draggy.
@SPFLDAngler
@SPFLDAngler Жыл бұрын
If we were allowed to remove the CFT it wouldn’t be a problem. Those things basically make the Strike Eagle what it’s usually called. A Mud Hen. In a WVR fight, it’s just a fat chicken.
@daviddorminey1434
@daviddorminey1434 Жыл бұрын
I've always heard that a mud hen without CFTs is like a C but with more power, but the are rarely flown that way, it should be interesting when the EXs become more prevalent as they will be flying without CFTs mostly.
@caleblarsen5490
@caleblarsen5490 Жыл бұрын
So basically the F-15 went from "not a pound for air to ground," to, "we only pound the ground."
@oldfashionedwrx3574
@oldfashionedwrx3574 Жыл бұрын
BVR it's good though lol
@OverlordAntares
@OverlordAntares Жыл бұрын
​@@oldfashionedwrx3574Better hope you have a flight of Vipers or Eagles nearby in case the enemy sneaks up on you.
@oldfashionedwrx3574
@oldfashionedwrx3574 Жыл бұрын
@@OverlordAntares they'll always have escort lol
@OverlordAntares
@OverlordAntares Жыл бұрын
@@oldfashionedwrx3574 Rip the solo Mudhen players lol
@darthtytherous2107
@darthtytherous2107 Жыл бұрын
I thought at first that since it’s an F-15 variant that it could dogfight. Needless to say I learned it’s not a bfm dogfighter the hard way after I merged with a MiG-21.
@SPFLDAngler
@SPFLDAngler Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t even fight a MiG-15. It’s so disappointing.
@KingMen1Force
@KingMen1Force Жыл бұрын
​@@SPFLDAnglerWell the MiG-15 turns better than the MiG-21
@madaxe606
@madaxe606 Жыл бұрын
As a MiG-21 guy, you'd be surprised what our humble Balalaika can do.
@immortaldev1489
@immortaldev1489 Жыл бұрын
The C model is pretty capable in a dogfight
@MaverickCulp
@MaverickCulp Жыл бұрын
@@madaxe606Fellow MiG-21 driver here. We really can do some nasty things with our little plane.
@Reaper_03-01
@Reaper_03-01 Жыл бұрын
Now I am the world's biggest Eagle fanboy, but the Mud Hen shares only its basic silhouette with the F-15D. There is over 1,200kg worth of reinforcing of the airframe to strengthen it, necessitating the more powerful GE F-110 engines over the P&W F100s in the F-15A - F-15D and its export derivatives. There is also the somewhat reduced by far from negligible affect that the CFTs (Conformal Fuel Tanks) impose on the airframe of the Mud Hen when compared to a pair of traditional drop tank. Now the F-15EX shares little with the lineage of both the Eagle and Mud Hen, aside from its silhouette. The EX has a fully digital control system, so the older hydraulically actuated control surfaces are out with electric motors now taking inputs from the pilot via the new fully digital flight computer and moving the control surfaces. The EX is also supposed to be lighter, given that its airframe incorporates a greater percentage of composites over alloys than the -C and -E Eagles. The EX is also designed with open architecture systems, which makes incorporating new weapons and upgrades a much simpler endeavour over aircraft like the F-22 which were designed and built before the advent of open architectures.
@migcap7356
@migcap7356 Жыл бұрын
The issue with the F-15E is the CFT on the jet. Once the F-15C were removed from England a few of the Strike Eagles were reconformed without the CFT which give the Eagle much better performance. They did this because they needed Eagles that could do Combat Patrols in Poland late last year and this. I didn't fly E models just the Abinos, aka C's and in reality when you removed the tanks you have an hoped up C model with better intergraded systems because most are newer version of the F-15C. It's one of the questions I need to ask RASBEZ in a forum if the tanks can be removed because I love to see how they perform w/o them.
@crash8926
@crash8926 Жыл бұрын
RB already said they are not removing the. CFT’s.
@xela79
@xela79 Жыл бұрын
RB said they wouldn’t be removing the CFTs because then they would have to make a new flight model.
@NoSteponSnek69
@NoSteponSnek69 Жыл бұрын
Thats a shame. No-CFT F15Es with 229s have dominated BFM tourneys against albinos, lawn darts, bugs and cats. Such is the enduring problem of the dark grey. MX doesnt want to drop the CFTs, RAZBAM doesnt want to drop the CFTs.... BVR and ACM for all my friends!
@migcap7356
@migcap7356 Жыл бұрын
@@xela79 I thought so... That's the point w/ USAFE removing the CFT's. It changes the flight characteristics completely... The F-15EX is a completely different animal under the skin, slightly larger w/ full fly by wires and total upgrades. Like flying a 738 and being handed the keys to a Max8...
@bobdonovan34
@bobdonovan34 Жыл бұрын
I'm one of the ones who thought this thing was going to dominate as a dog fighter. Then I took it out for my first flight and quickly realized I better learn the ground attack role if I want to get some use out of the aircraft.
@DylanStahl
@DylanStahl Жыл бұрын
As compared to the Air Superiority Version, the Strike Eagle has many pounds for air to ground, which is what does this to it - it can BVR, clearly, but it's not an ACM king.
@Laerei
@Laerei Жыл бұрын
Hey you can do BVR, it has a powerful A2A radar and can carry soooo many missiles. It should be able to outlast most other fighters in BVR combat.
@georgecharleston8532
@georgecharleston8532 Жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine it being that far off from the c, it flies in DCS like it has a large bomb load even though it’s clean.
@dreaminknight
@dreaminknight Жыл бұрын
​​@@georgecharleston8532CFT.. talk to F-15E drivers and they confirm that the CFT still produces a lot of drag. Thats why the F-15Cs are flying with dropable bags (and why the F-15EX will mostvprobably fly without CFT in A2A missions.
@maeckknox6535
@maeckknox6535 Жыл бұрын
@@dreaminknight we haven't even orderd CFT's for the EX squadrons
@joelhume
@joelhume Жыл бұрын
Its important to note that not being a good dogfighter is not the same as not being good at air to air combat. An F15E with eight AMRAAMs/AIM9X is a very good air to air fighter because of its powerful sensors, speed, thrust, long range and combat persistence.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын
correct, dogfighting is only a portion of "air to air capabilities" BVR is the major component.
@Nathan-vt1jz
@Nathan-vt1jz Жыл бұрын
My guess is this is how the J20 would perform in dogfighting. It’s also a missile truck, large, heavy, and low power to weight ratios (the engines aren’t very good).
@40kmphASMR
@40kmphASMR Жыл бұрын
Your Strike Eagle videos will contribute significantly to this year's Moments-of-Death compilation.
@SabertoothedFrostbite
@SabertoothedFrostbite Жыл бұрын
I'm noticing a lot of people in the comments aren't making the distinction between the f-15e variant and the f-15c variant. The e variant is a completely redesigned aircraft for ground attack, it may look like an normal f-15 but it performs entirely different.
@KyoushaPumpItUp
@KyoushaPumpItUp Жыл бұрын
What about the F-15EX?
@SabertoothedFrostbite
@SabertoothedFrostbite Жыл бұрын
@@KyoushaPumpItUp from what I have heard it is inbetween the two in terms of maneuverability, as a missile truck however it works phenomenal as it has better radar and electronics.
@KyoushaPumpItUp
@KyoushaPumpItUp Жыл бұрын
@@SabertoothedFrostbite thanks
@Ghoster311
@Ghoster311 Жыл бұрын
Can you remove the CFT’s from the Strike Eagle? That should make a huge difference if they modeled it. The USAF has been removing them from some SE’s and using them in place of high mileage C models.
@Mike_Romeo
@Mike_Romeo Жыл бұрын
No you cant
@mrblablablabla
@mrblablablabla Жыл бұрын
4:18 "Errrrr... eh, I guess we"re not doing a parachute...??" LOL XD
@dm8994
@dm8994 7 ай бұрын
I knew somebody else found that hilarious.
@adamw2911
@adamw2911 Жыл бұрын
F15E v Tornado F3 close in would be interesting. As would Tornado F3 v F15C BVR with awacs support etc. The F15 on paper wins...but in actual exercises the F3 did surprisingly well.
@syntience_wings
@syntience_wings Жыл бұрын
Well this is an eye opener to me. Based mainly on the train hype I was expecting it to be not dominant for sure but at least manageable in dogfights. I'm sad now for my f15 dreams 😂
@fisadev
@fisadev Жыл бұрын
don't be sad! just do good BVR, for which the mudhen is a beast, and you will never have to worry about tiny jets turning around you xD
@syntience_wings
@syntience_wings Жыл бұрын
@@fisadev this is a good advice :)
@johngeiger3770
@johngeiger3770 11 ай бұрын
Well, it's an ammunition truck designed for long range SEAD not WVR.
@ziadajam5433
@ziadajam5433 Жыл бұрын
This video really helped put into prospective how agile the 16 is. I know so many die hard F-15s that would bring up the KD of the 15 to say it would beat the 16. I’d love to see a match including BVR and possibly a merge if the 16 can survive long enough
@jklappenbach
@jklappenbach Жыл бұрын
One thing the fight between the F15 and the Su57 made clear, if the F15 wants to dominate in the intercept role, it's got to be able to dominate BVR. And to do that, the AIM120 is not going to do the job. We really need the AIM260s for the load out.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын
I would imagine this statement is accurate
@Anderson_Hwang
@Anderson_Hwang Жыл бұрын
Then youll be totally disappointed. The F-15E was literally the last aircraft in the entire US military to get the AIM-9X. Any air to air upgrades will come to the F-15E last.
@fen3532
@fen3532 Жыл бұрын
Strike Eagle really deserves to be called thunderbolt II, unlike the A-10 whitch is just a random slow strike aircraft...
@texasabbott
@texasabbott Жыл бұрын
Some USAF F-15E's have been conducting air-to-air exercises since January 2023 with their CFTs removed. While F-15E's with the F100-PW-220 engines and no CFT's performed similarly as the F-15C's, F-15E's with the F100-PW-229 engines (adding 11,000 Ibs. or 24% more total thrust) and no CFT's could prove a formidable adversary. There is no shortage of players who would be willing to pay for the F-15E flight model with no CFT's.
@mro9466
@mro9466 Жыл бұрын
Just fly the F18 or F16 if you want to dogfight ...
@arzhangsadeghi
@arzhangsadeghi Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the dogfight , I really wanted to see how it performs, I really appropriate your timer and effort.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын
My pleasure thank you for watching
@salutarydreams520
@salutarydreams520 Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see F-15C vs F-15E dogfight.
@kawasaki8051
@kawasaki8051 Жыл бұрын
Exactly why the USAF is taking off CFT's on alot of the F15E's
@pkpnyt4711
@pkpnyt4711 Жыл бұрын
Actually, all the EX versions they're getting, they opted not to have CFTs. There were some Es they removed the CFTs to compare performance, but there are still a ton of Es that are solely bomb trucks and need the CFTs.
@lockhartmatthew
@lockhartmatthew Жыл бұрын
Now I'm curious to see a F15C versus a F15E.
@MikePasqqsaPekiM
@MikePasqqsaPekiM Жыл бұрын
F15C should win.
@termitreter6545
@termitreter6545 Жыл бұрын
The F-15C in DCS is arguably a better Dogfighter than the F-16. Its worse^^
@Brody961
@Brody961 Жыл бұрын
​@termitreter6545 same with the f18. Specifically in dcs I can hold 430 in the f16 and still get out rated by an f18. The f18 is super op. To your point im curious about the F15s nose authority in dcs as well lol
@BadMooseRecords
@BadMooseRecords Жыл бұрын
The flaming cliff f15 should get that flight model put on as well.
@Alamo-a2a
@Alamo-a2a Жыл бұрын
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk the f15c its preety dawn good in the 1 cicle and 2 circle, but it not the best in any of those
@macgyver186
@macgyver186 Жыл бұрын
When the F-15 hit the water and you said "splash one" it gave me a chuckle.
@jameskester7745
@jameskester7745 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why people don't believe physics doesn't apply to their favorite aircraft
@_dexcon_7008
@_dexcon_7008 Жыл бұрын
Ok but now in really need F15C vs F15E didn’t think the F15E would win but pfeeeww this is real disadvantage in BFM. So I wonder how the F15C would do. Great video btw :) as always
@realQuiGon
@realQuiGon Жыл бұрын
I would love to see another video with the F-15E against the F-16, but at high altitude. The F-15 performs so much better up there, while the Viper struggles in thin air. So if you really wanna dogfight in the F-15E, do it at high altitude.
@dryphtyr
@dryphtyr Жыл бұрын
F-16 sans AB is still basically an A4 Skyhawk on steroids.
@meanman6992
@meanman6992 Жыл бұрын
I bet when a lot of people were thinking dog fight, they were thinking BVR not guns. Which you could easily argue is not a dog fight. I’d think the F15EX is going to be a huge BVR threat though since it’s got such a powerful radar and can carry so many missiles. A fighter has to make it to the merge, and what is it 16 missiles he can take? All he has to do is keep shooting at you and pushing and if he runs out, just go home and re-arm.
@stefanoferreri
@stefanoferreri Жыл бұрын
now i'm curious about the F-15C vs F-15E in both dogfight and bvr
@keithhoss4990
@keithhoss4990 Жыл бұрын
C model has one of the best air to air radar’s in the world and turns much better than the E. It is an an Air Superiority fighter whereas the E is a multi role fighter/bomber. Air to Air the C model will win regardless of the envelope.
@stefanoferreri
@stefanoferreri Жыл бұрын
​@@keithhoss4990 i understand it but keep in mind that it's the FC3 variant, not as detailed and similar to reality as the E variant is, so it might turn in the high fidelity bird's favour instead of the low fidelity one. that's the only reason i'm interested. but yes generally speaking there is a reason why the C variant is called EAGLE and the E one is called STRIKE EAGLE
@keithhoss4990
@keithhoss4990 Жыл бұрын
@@stefanoferreri In Air Force Pilot training my class leader was a Strike Eagle WSO before coming to Pilot training and this is exactly how he said Dogfighting would go in a Strike Eagle.
@stefanoferreri
@stefanoferreri Жыл бұрын
@@keithhoss4990 i'm not saying that the E variant is the best dogfighter ever, i'm just saying that due to the low fidelity model of the C variant maybe the E variant could potentially kill it. the FC3 models in DCS are low fidelity and do not correspond perfectly with real life aircrafts whereas the high fidelity ones are pretty similar in terms of performance. Being aware of this i just said that i'm curious about seeing these two engineering masterpieces going in a direct fight, being dogfight and/or BVR. I'm not talking about real life, i'm talking about a simulator.
@coreyp9211
@coreyp9211 Жыл бұрын
If you take the CFTs off of an E, it would outperform the C in every way. The E has a much better and more modern sensor suite.
@HalcyonAD
@HalcyonAD Жыл бұрын
It can too dogfight.... poorly.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын
Lol ya I can agree with this
@JoDaddy1222
@JoDaddy1222 Жыл бұрын
"I guess we're not doing the parachute" SPLAT! I was dying! I love your commentary! And you're a damn hoss on the stick!❤
@EurofighterTyphoon_
@EurofighterTyphoon_ Жыл бұрын
What about a Dogfight beetwen the F15E and Harrier or the A10? I think that would be very interesting.
@DrakenTandem
@DrakenTandem Жыл бұрын
I’m interested in f-35 vs f15e and AJS37 vs f15e, how ab that ???
@brianlindsey3620
@brianlindsey3620 Жыл бұрын
It’s going to be interesting if the usaf accepts Raytheon’s Perigrine missle…. I envision a scenario where f35/ngad, have peregrine, and th ex and f18 are carrying aim 260’s, them 260s will be coming from 150 miles away via stealth datalink, while the Mach 5+ peregrine will be launched via stealth within an enemies M.A.R
@getahanddown
@getahanddown Жыл бұрын
People can pick the sillouettes of each plane but have no scale. F15 is 25% longer, double the engines, twice the dry / base weight and twice the loaded weight. For a turning fight less mass + size wins.
@jwn2003
@jwn2003 Жыл бұрын
MiG 31 vs F-15E! I think that would be an interesting dogfight.
@TymaDem
@TymaDem Жыл бұрын
Lol, the dogfight between two flying bricks, should be quite the show
@jfiery
@jfiery Жыл бұрын
I wasn't worried about dogfighting the Strike Eagle, I was worried about BVR with it's radar coupled with a DL.
@angeryitalianchef7251
@angeryitalianchef7251 Жыл бұрын
such a shame, the old F-15A/C were literally built for aerial dominance dogfights. "Look how they massacred my boy"
@Stinger522
@Stinger522 Жыл бұрын
Do some air to ground action in the Strike Eagle. Any further dogfights with it are just torture at this point.
@homercowell7295
@homercowell7295 Жыл бұрын
You should make a challenge video to see if someone can depict whats happening in a dogfight only by the sounds
@IamVF301
@IamVF301 Жыл бұрын
The F-15E was meant to replace the F-111 supersonic penetration bomber, the main reason (to my knowlage) is that a modified F-15 is still kinda and F-15 so it can defend itself (at longer range)
@xSpcManSpiffx
@xSpcManSpiffx Жыл бұрын
"I guess we're not doing a parachute? " SPLAT 😂 4:16
@High_Alpha
@High_Alpha Жыл бұрын
Wondering if the difference here is not only the 'bomb truck' design and cft's but also the Eagle doesn't have LEF's or LEX's... so attempting to do all that high alpha stuff is going to not work. You're asking an F150 to turn a corner at 120 like a Ferrari. With the extra weight it doesn't have the brute force of the C to get around that. I'm wondering if the F16I has the same issues given it's basically a "Strike Viper". (although, yes, like the og Viper it has LEF's)
@rubensakols
@rubensakols Жыл бұрын
we need this fight in bvr‼️
@bdog7262
@bdog7262 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the viper!!! Can’t wait till we get the block 70/72
@RyanSukohl
@RyanSukohl Жыл бұрын
Thanks for validating my experiences so far! I was getting tired of screaming “how are they behind me already!”
@gwcrispi
@gwcrispi Жыл бұрын
Max Afterburner is going to have to weigh in on this one. You're in his pride and joy now.
@gwcrispi
@gwcrispi Жыл бұрын
He's going to point out that you need to repeat this matchup BVR.
@idiedoof4339
@idiedoof4339 Жыл бұрын
I saw that the strike eagle had conformal tanks. Would taking them off change its performance?
@timtreeborgsonjen1533
@timtreeborgsonjen1533 Жыл бұрын
Put a ball turret behind to he cockpit on the bomb truck.
@salmanGT4
@salmanGT4 Жыл бұрын
Dogfighting with just guns against a Su-57 would be laptop flipping frustrating!! Lol 😂
@clevercat5844
@clevercat5844 Жыл бұрын
OMG when that parachute didn’t open & that spat sound 😂
@henrikfabricius761
@henrikfabricius761 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how the F-15E would perform in it's primary role, being an Air Interdiction Fighter/Bomb Truck. A scenario in which it would have to go deep into enemy territory and take out some key installations and at the same time try to pave it's own way through enemy SAMs and ADFs. All based on your immagination and skills.
@madaxe606
@madaxe606 Жыл бұрын
The build quality of the Strike Eagle makes me even more hyped for the MiG-23!
@rorycolquhoun7840
@rorycolquhoun7840 Жыл бұрын
F15E vs F35????? Battle of the big boys? Could be interesting! 🤣
@VocalTheKing
@VocalTheKing Жыл бұрын
"I guess we aren't doing the parachute?" Had me rolling.
@mikemontgomery2654
@mikemontgomery2654 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t help but notice your Bombardier survived, after the second death. 🤣🤣
@d3us3xmach1na5
@d3us3xmach1na5 Жыл бұрын
He tried to flare your chutes haha. I’d just go into the merge and then keep running away.
@Metal2Mesh
@Metal2Mesh Жыл бұрын
That is why I had to get a damage model out for early access.
@maverickmissile801
@maverickmissile801 Жыл бұрын
Im lovin this strike eagle content, and how you just keep doing different stuff with the eagle. Video idea: Dogfights thru the eras. Gen 1-5 fighters from the US fight their counterparts in the USSR/Russia.
@Anton_Kalgin
@Anton_Kalgin Жыл бұрын
How about F-15E vs Su-30SM intercept? With GS flying one than the other, so we could see the duel from both perspectives.
@Easy-Eight
@Easy-Eight Жыл бұрын
I worked on the F-15s and remember when the F-16As were just a cheap, bargain basement aircraft. Now the F-16C+ Vipers kill the F-15s at their leisure. Depressing. It would be like watching Muhammad Ali get beat up by some two bit street punk.
@arthurthedented
@arthurthedented 4 ай бұрын
I thought the power-to-weight ratio let the F15 accelerate past Mach in a straight vertical climb... not useful against missiles but it doesn't get them out of guns? and how does it wind up so slow and low when its got that massive overthrust? (not saying its a dogfighter but thinking maybe it has different strengths that weren't being played to here?)
@rocketpunchgo1
@rocketpunchgo1 Жыл бұрын
4:21 was that seriously a "splat" sound effect lmao
@rickmasseur2008
@rickmasseur2008 Жыл бұрын
This is the perfect title from the perfect person to ask the question.
@ruiliu4157
@ruiliu4157 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this makes the F-14s look even more amazing! I thought the Strike Eagle could fight similarly to a Tomcat 😂 But hell no - even with supposedly better engines
@beetlusjuicus4013
@beetlusjuicus4013 Жыл бұрын
It’s the cft
@hellcat611
@hellcat611 Жыл бұрын
I’d be interested in an F-14A vs F-15E fight.
@andrewchr
@andrewchr Жыл бұрын
I guess that's why they slapped a powerful radar so that it can BVR better than anyone else. If you are not good in something, it's important to excel in something else, to cover up your weaknesses.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын
thats right, good luck getting to the merge against this thing, especially if it has AWACS support.
@thomasbabik4320
@thomasbabik4320 4 ай бұрын
What about a combat loaded Strike Eagle up against a combat loaded Viper? Flying around in a heavy Viper feels a bit more sluggish than a similarly loaded Strike Eagle
@piconano
@piconano Жыл бұрын
The lighter the aircraft, the better it can dogfight. Mass and inertia are brothers.
@abd733.k
@abd733.k Жыл бұрын
GS you mentioned the Mig-29 vs the strike eagle, I'm actually interested to see how would that end.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder Жыл бұрын
Me too lol I’ll put it in the pipeline
@abd733.k
@abd733.k Жыл бұрын
@@GrowlingSidewinder can't wait to see that, the Mig-29 is fast and agile compared to the Strike Eagle, I don't know maybe we'd find a somewhat comparable performance to the Viper, or maybe not, either way best wishes mate.
@RAAFLightning1
@RAAFLightning1 Жыл бұрын
@@abd733.k somewhat comparable to the viper in what?? BFM?? Hell no. BVR?? Maybe, but the eagle has no datalink and the radar is quite clunky. Also no jammer.
@Ken_Koonz
@Ken_Koonz Жыл бұрын
We need more these videos showing both sides of the fight! Very informative.
@honnorgaurd
@honnorgaurd Ай бұрын
So... awhile back i saw you do a video of the Eagle dogfighting an F16 and coming out on top. im assuming its a different variant of the F15 but whats the difference?
@ralfhtg1056
@ralfhtg1056 Жыл бұрын
Where this idea came from? Easy answer: The F-15 was invented as an air to air platform, which includes the ability to dogfight. And since the Strike Eagle is a derivative of the Eagle, it should also be able to dogfight.
@harshmasiwal5257
@harshmasiwal5257 Жыл бұрын
Man, did you graduate from the prometheus school of aviation and aerodynamics ☠️
@crash8926
@crash8926 Жыл бұрын
@@harshmasiwal5257 no shit bro
@ryz_vik
@ryz_vik Жыл бұрын
It can dogfight, it just can’t do shit against a peer competitor 😂
@erikarmstrong7769
@erikarmstrong7769 Жыл бұрын
Apparently not lol
@ww.x0
@ww.x0 Жыл бұрын
yes just like anything with a gun "can" dogfight, numbnuts
@Ronburgundy449
@Ronburgundy449 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see they finally gave the F15 the dogfighting capability of the jet it was built in fear of, the Mig 31 😂
@corybrown2197
@corybrown2197 9 ай бұрын
Alright so if it’s too heavy to dogfight. What are their options if they do find themselves in a dogfight? Do they have the speed to escape? What’s the doctrine here for a plane that loses dogfights?
@StudSupreme
@StudSupreme Жыл бұрын
Which plane has the better climb rate? I'm wondering if the 'bomb truck' with two engines could take this to a vertical two circle and have a chance.
@Mike_Romeo
@Mike_Romeo Жыл бұрын
No, too much weight and drag. Su-27 or MiG-29 should have the best climb rates due to their small weights and fantastic aerodynamics and strong engines
@StudSupreme
@StudSupreme Жыл бұрын
@@Mike_Romeo OK, I see. It's beginning to sound like the F-15E is more like the MiG-31. I may be overgeneralizing, but it's sounding that way to me. That might be a fun dogfight, come to think of it.
@Amvienttz
@Amvienttz Жыл бұрын
Would love to see it perform with the Hornet. Results are going to be obvious but still interesting to see.
@joshburke4083
@joshburke4083 Жыл бұрын
Or it vs a F model Super Hornet considering both do similar missions.
@michaelscruton7270
@michaelscruton7270 Жыл бұрын
The F15-E sometimes goes by the nickname 'Mud Hen' for a reason....
@JuanmaBaiutti
@JuanmaBaiutti Жыл бұрын
Now I want to see the tomcat kicking his a55
@mfish9374
@mfish9374 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of restriction fights. Sure it would make more vids. 2v1s, one aircraft missile the other gun only, in lue of head on starts how about 90 or 180 degree starts. Stuff like that
@GreenTea-101
@GreenTea-101 Жыл бұрын
Next matchup: Dogfight a F-16C vs you in an AC-130. I think you might have a chance!
@shaun1165
@shaun1165 Жыл бұрын
Please do a SU-30 vs F-15E dogfight since they are similar class of fighters, although a flanker will defintely dominate a eagle with CFT
@anirudh5320
@anirudh5320 Жыл бұрын
An empty su-35 weighs about 18000 kg and the strike eagle about 14000kg at the same time their maximum takeoff weight's are 35000lg and 30000kg respectively. If this is true and the su 35 is as maneuverable as it claims to be, it is actually very impressive what the russian's have achieved. (based on publically available data)
@faris.Djunaidi
@faris.Djunaidi Жыл бұрын
We already have F16 and planned to bought F15ex. Now you're making me worried
@ohalrighthen4301
@ohalrighthen4301 Жыл бұрын
Fighter Mafia with cigar smoke: "Dude, I told you so".
@lknanml
@lknanml Жыл бұрын
The real question is can it run Crysis? There's a RIO out there somewhere that knows.....
@TheBigJil
@TheBigJil Жыл бұрын
Could you make a playlist of all of the songs you use in your videos please.
@diannafiredal
@diannafiredal Жыл бұрын
"I guess we're not doing the parachute?" 😂
@AtlasFox
@AtlasFox Жыл бұрын
I just want to say my RIO/WSO and I took on a Flanker yesterday to see how the Strike Eagle can merge. It did not go well and I thought I was just being a bad pilot. I feel vindicated after watching GS struggle
@ericyang5261
@ericyang5261 Жыл бұрын
I guess that's the reason USAF started to take conformal tanks off the F-15Es as they need to fill the gap of retiring F-15C/D in air superiority roles...
@TomP-148
@TomP-148 Жыл бұрын
about time someone else did it. Would have liked to see your inputs. When I did it I found out if you did a full pull back on the stick you were pretty much done for
@SVTL4799
@SVTL4799 Жыл бұрын
F-15E Vs F-15E!!!! Back in the day that’s all we had and we loved it!
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