Can TRICKING KICKS Work in a Fight??

[@SenseiSeth]

Go watch Zak’s video where we see how many tricks I can learn in an hour! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpnRf2aXbrGFe7c

[@MexicanMartialArts]

Is that a trick question?

[@SenseiSeth]

Y…yes?

[@benjiboi6669]

Grand master

[@north9951]

Judont know lol

[@Keelsman]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND THE WINNER IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSS..!

[@MJRLHobbyStuff]

Here’s the trick…

[@jonathancampbell5231]

Practical or not, THIS is the sort of martial arts we wanted to learn when we were kids, and so jealous that there wasn't and isn't one near to me (though I'd probably suck at it anyway)

[@mmhcreates]

But would succeed with practice.

[@jonathancampbell5231]

@@mmhcreates Maybe, but I've got foot issues

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

Depends on where you live. There's capoeira all over the world. But not so much in more rural areas.

[@mmhcreates]

@@jonathancampbell5231 ah, if cannot be overcome, then perhaps improvements can at least be made. And or become the handstand man.

[@jonathancampbell5231]

@@mmhcreates Struggle with handstands as well. Weight and shoulder issues :( But maybe we'll see, one day.

[@EvolveNowYoga]

You landing the backflip after a couple tries is actually pretty impressive to me!

[@SenseiSeth]

He chubby surprise

[@mura_saki]

@@SenseiSeth hehe chubby surprise

[@thecarnosaurchannel2819]

@@SenseiSeth do you like cheese burgers?

[@nobodyshere5994]

With help and a gym is actually easier than you think

[@Ongyokage6389]

Coming from a tricking background I would say that the tricks themselves arent really viable in a fighting scenario but the byproducts such as proprioception and athleticism are what’s useful. To be honest tricking is a fun way to take a break from serious martial arts training.

[@lep3nseur]

I understand the backflip fear SO MUCH. I just freeze when I try and stay in this sort of awkward squat position. And I do capoeira so it's an issue

[@jacobmurphree1563]

The only time I was ever able to actually do a flip I was on a wrestling mat and did a front flip onto my back

[@lep3nseur]

@@jacobmurphree1563 actually, I find front flips less scary (even though they might be more dangerous and are more difficult to do).

[@jacobmurphree1563]

@@lep3nseur yea When I did it I was on a pretty thick wrestling mat and didn't feel scared really

[@JOATau]

Hey I do Capoeira too! The way that helped me learn the backflip was to first learn a macaco, then a backhand spring, then a backflip. Although it looks very similar it’s a lot different, a folha seca from Capoeira can super easily be progressed to help get over your fear of going backwards. I actually think it’s wayyyy easier to progress into than a backflip. Hope that helps!

[@gimlysadasda]

correct progressions will fix that lol

[@flyingmalkie4346]

Ex tkd instructor - use your 360/tornado kick to cover forward distance rather than focusing on making it spin faster or kick high. Going from flat foot relaxed, covering 3/4 of the ring spinning makes people hesitate a little, and pretty safe as the spin momumtum is nullified so you can just land. Also for being too close, make your first leg that just usually spins, ie left leg if you kick with the right, and just flick it out for an outer crescent kick, the leg can stay quite tight compared to the finishing kick. On crescent kicks, swing and flicking it up and out rather than stiff leg swing generates a ton of power and perfect whipping motion to rattle a jaw. Another great one is 360 front stomp kick, get your kicking leg knee high to the sky as possible, and let your weight come down as you kcik, it may feel a tad slow but your tucked kicking leg along with the jump (aim for height with this one)can bring your leg over or inside a guard and you can get great incredible connection. Take these how you like it, just small changes i found greatly improved competing all manner of martial arts

[@dwardo1066]

Loved it. Pretty much from the off I was thinking "Dudes gonna be sore tomorrow" :) Must try that scary back flip or something "off Syllabus".

[@ninjajin]

Thanks Seth for shining light on tricking and trying your best. I’m a martial artist who transitioned to tricking. If anyone wants to learn tricking please start with the prerequisites before going balls to the wall.

[@gustavor.canezini5024]

8:20 The capoeira-looking kick also seems really similar to a cartwheel kick, that is commonly used by more flashy muay thai fighters like saenchai. I think the kick would connect in a timing that is different enough so you could try to mix both of them up. Think I'm gonna learn it, looks cool.

[@zDivines]

Are you from Brazil?

[@gustavor.canezini5024]

Perhaps... Yeah, I am.

[@zDivines]

@@gustavor.canezini5024 para com issu mano, é obvio pelo Nome 💀

[@tylermceachern3085]

It's like a hopping mea lua gi compasso (I likely spelled that wrong).

[@Phospion]

Cub Swanson kicked a couple of guys with a cartwheel kick in the UFC!

[@BionicBurke]

When you mentioned the body pain it brought back memories of when I first started doing parkour and learning flips. You use so many muscles you didn't even know existed and after that first session you discover ways of hurting you never knew were possible. Also, I'm sure he's already mentioned this to you off camera but for anyone else wondering.. the best tip I can give you with flips is always jump straight up. Do not start the process of rotating until you have already left the ground. Your body will also always follow your head. If you find yourself turning to one side it is because you are trying to spot the ground behind you by looking to one side. I know it is scary but you need to keep your head straight and trust in the tuck (unless you are doing spinny shit of course). You can completely stall out your rotation by searching for the ground instead of just letting it come into view. That can lead to falling on your head. Jump Higher, Spin Faster - KS4E

[@nasiegrifftalks]

This is so facts, the body aches are no joke

[@RealKoman]

Zak's attitude and just the way he carries himself, man! I would actually let this guy teach me the hardest tricks while feeling safe. Just positive reinforecement, all the hyping up and stuff... Awesome dude 100%

[@angrychickengod3831]

as a non-martial artist, i clicked on this video thinking it would be about fooling your opponent into thinking you're about to kick them

[@GOBRAGH2]

The fitness and control you achieve working these tricks could help you in sparring. Doesn't mean you have to actually do the tricks in sparring.

[@SenseiSeth]

Bingo

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Ye

[@PKIllusion1]

As a former tricking instructor, I was rooting for you so hard in this whole video! I legit celebrated when you landed the backflip!!

[@superman1856]

As an MMA fighter, I think some tricking techniques would work if we put that into practice based on assessment and tests into practical fighting, also it would make your fighting style so cool, if a fighter can make it work and have in their arsenal. I just think in future fighting style will advance to tricking and stuff.

[@pommersche_zauberer]

Absolutely!

[@Unstrict]

I feel like a cheat gainer axe kick could land if you do it right but would have to be fast

[@pilearts]

being an ex-martial artist and current tricker, I seriously loved the breakdown on this! Its a fantastic deep dive into a question ive wondered myself. Good job dude!

[@melisslacour15]

Needed this ten years ago when I was trying to learn spinny stuff on my own on KZbin for demos 😅 And makes me wanna learn it still

[@Art_Vandelay_Industries]

7:35 it's crazy how easy and nimble he goes into those moves. Must be so fun to be able to move like that, practical or not.

[@tristantsang4325]

Absolutely! That’s the main appeal of tricking anyway. People think martial arts is always about fighting when in reality it can be just as much about self improvement, coordination, fitness and most importantly, actual enjoyment and having fun. After all, there’s no point in practicing something if you find it to be more of a chore than a pastime

[@znail4675]

I also think that he is so good at those moves that he could make them actually work in a fight.

[@fayvis]

I appreciate the commitment to responsible sparring! Throwing something you can't control with that much spice behind it is an ambulance trip for somebody

[@EVENINGWOLF666]

The whole tricking thing has been a source of great consternation for me over the years. I watch these people doing all these gymnastic kinds of movements, whether empty hand, or with weapons, and I can see, from the lack of focus and intent in their movements that they have no idea how those techniques could be used in an actual self-defense situation or even IF they could be used as such. They have never been taught that aspect, just the movement and making it "look good". Glad to see someone actually looking into those movement and testing to see if some of them could be used. I would really like to see more of that kind of thing, especially in an era where so many martial arts school are getting away from practical usage of techniques in favor of just stuff that looks cool.

[@gimlysadasda]

Yeah tricking is in absolutely no way meant for combat. Most trickers are sooky little bitches so it makes sense haha. Funnily enough you have the same name as an actual legend in the scene

[@BlueMaggard]

I'm glad he mentioned capoeira, I feel like you'd need to be good at it in order to really add tricking into a general movement that is comfortable in functionality.

[@mattypark5725]

Listen, I know you call yourself “chubby” for most of this, but I think you’re just built! Especially doing stuff like this, you won’t be “chubby” much longer. Love it, Sensei Seth! Thanks for another banger🙌🏻🥊🔥

[@shaynejr]

If you do a trick in a fight, even if its 10 feat away from your opponent, if it looks cool, your opponent will likely run away. Usually the bad guy is after an easy target, and not as likely to go after the dude who just did a back flip.

[@superjoker]

I"m wearing the same shirt as Zak but Earthbending University! BA SING SE REPRESENT!

[@kungfuman82]

Did you know that there is no war in Ba Sing Se?

[@briehart-nutter4357]

This palm kick style of kick is an amazing weapon to follow the momentum of a roundhouse kick that doesn't connect. It was the kick that landed on me in sparring and injured me enough to take me out of contact sports for two years. I was the dumbass who tried to shoot under a roundhouse kick and ate a straight backkick variation of that palmkick (that we nicknamed the mule kick) right in my spleen. I feel like after someone ducks a headkick they have such an urge to counter with a double leg. If you can develop the skill to follow through the missed roundhouse pop a hand on the ground and plough open a back kick or hook kick there that could be a fight ender for a skilled opponent, not just me at 18.

[@TankerReview]

9:50 This is me trying to learn how to do a tornado kick. Ever since I saw it I have been trying my damn hardest to learn it as it is EPIC!!

[@gabrielkesshinsanchez9139]

I see the 720 being a good but rare change up if you do a lot of tornado kicks. Sending tornado kicks to the body then "surprise!" a fake out tornado and a powerful blow to the head

[@STARKILLER15100]

Tricking Is the next thing I need to learn. Loved this video and loved that you openly was saying you're scared and you're nervous yet still pushed through it. Motivation and inspiration right here.

[@igobyplane]

man that first seth palm kick combo was graceful

[@tterexx426]

The instructor is super encouraging, that's really cool.

[@rantingfatman4555]

So much respect for what you said about control. It is so important to have that philosophy entering into a sparring session.

[@MrRabiddogg]

Reminds me of my first Sensei, Jeff Ianuzzo. He used to be able to do cartwheel kicks in live sparring and ht the dude. And this was in actual tournaments with other Blackbelts.

[@stevenalexander6033]

Brian Ebersol has a wheel kick in his bag for MMA... dude's landed it too...

[@shadowfighter6445]

You did great with those flips Seth 😄. Thank you for sharing ☺️.

[@manuelzapata1192]

Raymond Daniels is one of my favorites. I wish I had a 1/10th of his talent

[@kunedoman]

IS THIS GUY FOR REAL! I kept looking for flight cables & cords. I've seen small skinny martial artist fly around like that but this guy is looks to be of regular standard size. WOW!

[@CrokyBoiEditz]

This is the video I’ve been waiting for my whole life

[@nuoxy]

You should take Up tricking more it’s really fun and has an awesome community

[@computerguy3812]

mannnnnt to be honest back flips have been so tough for me. because it is scary lmao.. . seeing you struggle your way through it .. then do it.. was a healthy reminder to me .. to not let the B**** in me have any ground.. thank you !

[@ShinFahima]

The instructor moves like he's CG. So smooth!

[@brandonstone6720]

I've wondered about this for a while I always figured moat weren't viable other except certain grounded techniques...thanks for the awesome content brother! 🙏🏻

[@zshakur]

One of my students is into "Tricking". I'm going to share this with him. Cool vid guys, THANKS!

[@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584]

I also have a deathly fear of flipping backwards. You did extremely well.

[@ninjamasterzanetti3304]

*Perfect video my friend, I really enjoyed it!* 👌👌😎😎✅✅

[@ehisey]

Actually used to use the kick at 4:27 in competition, it was good for getting 3 point kicks.

[@johngr1747]

I feel like this would be extremely effective when combined with regular Kickboxing

[@redblue9299]

I'm really impressed by how good of a coach that guy is

[@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584]

you remind of me. Your ability to learn quickly is impressive.

[@chris5963]

I think these sorts of movements, if interwoven with more practical/direct movements, could actually be really effective. Seems like a decent way to throw off your opponents rhythm, and get in their head.

[@pommersche_zauberer]

With good boxing and a good grappling base, the tricker would probably put up an incredible fight, being able to land acrobatic kicks and recover quickly if they didn't work out.

[@starwalk333]

Great job Seth!!! Especially not giving up very inspiring thanks bro!!!

[@camiloiribarren1450]

Zack: *a True Power Ranger* Seth: *wants to be a Power Ranger* #CHUBBYSURPRISED

[@liaemilie6583]

Should have said "All right, let's turn some tricks!" right at the beginning

[@TheDigitalBrownie]

Theres a video of someone doing the capoeira double spinning kick and landing the second one with a knockout. The sound that momentum made with contact is crazy.

[@Ninjacob00]

Now this is the type of content I subscribed for lol

[@christophervelez1561]

Damn that was cool to watch the progression on that backflip. Inspirational

[@shapshooter7769]

Steve Terada from Quest Crew is the master of these flying kicks, being both a karateka and a breakdancer :)

[@dan38910]

You legit have a really good looking C720. Wouldn't be able to tell you learnt it that day at all!

[@MsKusEmek]

That's actually way closer to my Capoeira classes than the class you took in the Capoeira video

[@biohazard724]

"if you're scared of trying something do it harder" is great advice, sometimes you have to throw your entire being into things to get passed that first roadblock.

[@NotHPotter]

Every ligament in my knees tensed up on all of those spins.

[@MisterHui]

Can't wait for you to do these to Mike in sparring and on the plus side no need to jump that high.

[@k.levirusco3834]

My favorite thing in this whole video is the air bending shirt ♥️

[@LeOrioN7]

I was just asking myself that question a few days ago, and you just... made a video. Nice

[@growthisfreedomunitedearth7584]

you could stand to move forward more while turning. the first part of your turns is not forward out from the chest, that might help not to fall away from the target.

[@RadicalTrivia]

The mental aspect of that stuff. I feel you real hard on that one, bud. Great video!

[@JoeyBaby47]

Master Ken should definitely investigate this.

[@bitkarek]

he is a great teacher indeed.

[@BennyBigIron]

Seth there has never been a phrase I identified more with than “chubby surprise!” Seriously respect the hustle bro! You make it look easy and that makes me wanna try harder. Keep Kicking!

[@dannyherbert4482]

Any of this stuff would obviously hurt if you got hit with it, just like someone windmilling their arms would if you got caught in the face by it, the problem is landing them

[@kailokusudai5085]

I've been wondering this for the longest time, thx!

[@cuttlefishn.w.2705]

Tricking is a close cousin to and practiced in the same gym as parkour, so I'ma just put this here: Parkour could be considered a self defense art. What are self-defense / martial arts masters always telling kids when they're learning to block and punch? "Don't start fights; run away; don't be a tough guy" etc., and while running away is logically the safest solution to a bunch of guys trying to pick a fight with you, you learn martial arts because sometimes you can't run away. Alternatively, you can learn to run away better, i.e. parkour; the art of getting from point A to point B the fastest and most direct way possible, incorporating jumps, vaults, rolls, and quick climbing techniques (flips are rarer than you think, I'm talking about parkour, not tricking or free-running (the in-between art of parkour and tricking)).

[@Xf2tygr]

GREAT JOB MY DUDE👏👏👏

[@UnHellequined]

Very fun video, and absolutely doing some of these sorts of kicks is just a lot of fun and a great way to build some athleticism and awareness even if they aren't meant to be used literally in a fight. OTOH, while flying and spinning kicks usually have direct, relatively simple counters, they are also a total body commitment to the movement. that alone can be one heck of a surprise and rather intimidating. The counter may be simple in theory but it takes a extremely practiced and cool head to register what's happening, react and apply it all quickly enough and without any hesitation.

[@Shambley1]

Can't wait to see the next icy Mike and Seth spar. Seth about to break out the real fancy kicks

[@austinmustdie3631]

i freaking love that airbending uni shirt

[@Spikebert]

Great video Sensei Seth, and you turn those tricks with the best of them! :-)

[@princevegeta7487]

Sensei you're a natural

[@andyarken7906]

12:54 the precise moment I expected Icy Mike to turn up.

[@alexroot6615]

two great dudes! great coaches, cool people!

[@avnataraj1659]

You're such a quick learner dude

[@Kemp1730]

First rule of well life really, don't underestimate people. You have no CLUE what people have been through, what they've trained in, you know NOTHING ABOUT THE OTHER PERSON UNTIL YOU LISTEN AND LEARN

[@TheRogueMonk]

SETH you did it amazingly so ggreat

[@muizismail4844]

Dudee,sensei seth learn it so quick bruhh.

[@bboye.musical9349]

I’m super impressed bro. You did amazingly!!!

[@Kali-8]

That 720 was so fire

[@TheWillToFight]

Congratulations by the way mate

[@SenseiSeth]

Thanks Will!

[@Wreckz_Tea]

Dude seth looks cool doing capoera kicks

[@Memorixt]

It’s quite impressive to see somebody with this bodymass doing stuff like that! ...But as by so many others, I see here too quite a confusion between martial arts, (non-armed)fighting sports and (non-armed) fighting (which have common points are not quite the same).

[@Mikimarux]

I feel like tornado kicks could have a pretty good real world application if used sparingly, with the initial leg being a feint, the opponent looks back from their duck/guard to get caught with the second leg.

[@justinlakey6838]

eyyyyy welcome to tricking! It's a heck of a workout!

[@SenseiSeth]

LOVED it

[@treadstoned9915]

Been subbed to both of you guys for a minute so this video is prettt epic.

[@carlosdlonga6507]

After several pulls, tores, fractures and almost left paralytic 3 times im very selective with tricking nowadays.. if you have practised (along with judo, bjj and aikido) you know that the floor is the coldest, ruthless and deadliest opponent you'll ever had.. As goes with martial styles, everything works, its just matter of knowing where and how apply it.. but i prefer save energy and keep it simple.. for personal challenge, skill test, martial shows, stunts, tournaments, videogames motion capture or artistic /body expression are excellent.. but when i fight seriously, a cage or real life, i go for destroy my rival, so i rarely use it.. but the champion of the toilets always likes to learn, improve and invent new tricks.. anyways thanks for both, it was nice advices, i will check zak channel too

[@tassiomiranda2985]

Seth, as a baiano here, GO LEARN CAPOEIRA, it will improve your karate a lot, and your moves are already SO GOOD! Do it!

[@LeSmuh]

Damn An Airbanding University shirt, your Dunder Mifflin sweater and Bill mafuggin Cipher on the matt Thumbs up for good content and great taste 👍

[@LvK138]

Whoa, what the heck! I used to go to college with Zak, absolutely did not expect to see him here

[@LvK138]

I mean dude ruled at tricking even then, just absolutely don't expect people I used to kinda sorta know on my KZbin feed

[@Mikimarux]

The first time I landed a front flip on a thin mat my head came down and I hit my eye with my knee. Got a shiner from that one.

[@quixotika3232]

They take so much distance to set up what if your opponent just chased you as you back up to do it. Also since it takes so much to set up people could see it a mile away and just move from you entirely. Honestly I would only use it as a victory pose type thing or for intimidation.

[@ComicusFreemanius]

Mad inspirational.

[@belalabusultan5911]

the thing with acropatic martial arts is that they don't give you some sort of alley, with walls, dumbsters, and other obstacles etc... to learn how to do your moves effectively in a fight. in an open ground, the non-acropatic martial arts have the advantage, but get in a forest, an alley, or even be surrounded by boulders in a mountainous area, and these moves could give you the advantage.