Can we improve the Dietary Guidelines? - Diet Doctor Podcast

The Dietary Guidelines for Americans influence the food we eat, yet they aren’t based on high-quality science. That’s why cinnamon rolls, chocolate milk, and pizza are “approved” foods in our schools and on our military bases.
Nina Teicholz, award-winning journalist and founder of The Nutrition Coalition, aims to change that. Through her advocacy work and investigative writing, she promotes the need for applying more rigorous science to the guidelines process.
While many challenges remain, Nina helps us identify the changes that need to be made and what we can do to enact them.
Table of content:
0:00 Introduction
1:24 The current state of the US Dietary Guideline
8:44 Who’s responsible for this recommendation?
13:58 USDA ignoring the science on low carb diets
20:34 The White House conference on Hunger, Nutrition and Health
27:36 USDA doesn’t acknowledge individualized diet interventions
34:25 The disclosure of conflict of interest for the guideline committee
39:28 Could we have an independent nutrition guideline free from conflicts of interest?
42:19 Contradictions of science and recommendations from the guideline
47:46 An opportunity to push the movement further
52:25 Final thoughts
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[@donaldevanshennings7732]

The tenacity of this woman is amazing. I wish her much success.

[@jobrown8146]

Only 3 months on low carb, no drugs and no fasting, and I remitted my diabetes. Since then I have stopped BP medication, lost 18.75% of body weight (only small amount of gentle exercise and stretches and strengthening), waist gone from 44" to 38", cholesterol numbers have improved and I no longer get hangry, and the quality of my sleep has improved.

[@Ketoswammy]

Hangry mess is 100% carb craving. It’s funny that snickers made a commercial about it, LOL.

[@jobrown8146]

@@Ketoswammy That's right, they did.

[@pennylacombe4763]

I did the very same thing two years ago. I’m eighty years old now, still not diabetic and only continue with my blood pressure meds because my DOCTOR quit me and I no longer have a doctor. ❤

[@jayhoggard92]

🎉🎉🎉

[@jobrown8146]

@@jayhoggard92 Thanks Jay. I've been carb since Oct 2021 and I've now lost 27.5% of my body weight (weigh what I did back in the early 1980s before children) and waist has gone from 44" to 35". The last 4kgs came off after I stopped eating cheese. I've just come home from the op shop buying more small sized tops/blouses. Some of the one I bought just over 1 year ago and now a bit too big for me. Ha ha!

[@jacklevoska8860]

I always look forward to Nina's talks.

[@Ketoswammy]

She’s incredible.

[@JOO-vf8jz]

Go Nina!!!! She’s a badass. I really hope good things come out of this. It will be a long road ahead but at least the coalition is raising public awareness. It boggles my mind how the government doesn’t want Americans to get healthy. It would be so easy to make some significant changes.

[@tanseygreen]

More money in sick people

[@tombarrett7797]

I just finished your book, the Big Fat Surprise. What an eye opener! It is a revelation and also reformative in my thinking of my health and at the same time highly depressing. Thank you for taking on such a mammoth task to look into this for the many millions that it can help! Thank you Dr. Scher as well for promoting these issues.

[@robertryan1663]

That's the book that opened my eyes several years ago. I've totally embraced beef and butter since then.

[@luannianke8110]

Thank you for this info. Keep up good work. Not everyone is on Twitter. I only utilize KZbin.

[@rosepruitt8569]

I also believe this is why the huge increase of ADd, ADHD, and other psychological problems for young children continue to rise every year.

[@mshklh2099]

Please prove it It your mission gentle lady

[@maricamaas2326]

Proven that (sadly) there's a higher incidence of autism amongst children of vegans&vegetarians; discussed by Jayne Buxton in 'The Great Plant-Based Con'... As she explains: The condition can fortunately often be rectified by implementing a keto/low carb/carnivore diet; similar to how ketogenic diet had been successfully used to rectify epilepsy in many. Interesting how 'bread madness' was coined more than 5 decades ago: When fasted, or even just by removing gluten products from their diet, schizophrenics would recover. Most interesting also the work of nutritional psychiatrist Georgia Ede; see for example on YT her talk 'Our Descent into Madness'.

[@passiveincomehowtos]

We need more people like Nina questioning the status quo and actually doing something to challenge the dogma with evidence. Thank you both for this amazing interview.

[@Joy80JJ]

Enjoy Nina's talks. Thanks for interviewing her.

[@danlablanc4024]

FDA has just opened input to public for changes to definition of "HEALTHY" on food packaging. We need someone to step up and create a template for subscribers of channels like this one, to respond to this opportunity. A unified response from many individuals.

[@jenniferkompara-tosio8827]

WHO says “About 422 million people worldwide have diabetes, the majority living in low-and middle-income countries, and 1.5 million deaths are directly attributed to diabetes each year” - why is this not addressed with top priority?

[@texastrustedoralsurgeon6830]

As Dr Sher and Ms. Teicholtz have been saying for many years, hard to believe, or maybe not, but the epidemiological scientists have been misrepresenting the findings of association, not causation, of dietary studies for decades. There is evidence that the leading epidemiological scientists at Harvard have financial conflicts of interest by being paid by the food industry. Bad science, fraudulent science is what we have been paying for all our lives. Garbage in, garbage out is killing most of the world.

[@tondelungu6376]

Insulin is big, big money. Why address it? Many of the companies that make the junk people eat also have ownership in the pharmaceutical industry - they win both sides. Sadly its America that has the most obese/overweight with about 70% sitting in that category. 50% diabetic and the rest prediabetic.... but people will be lied to and accept the lies that ' all food is good food'

[@texastrustedoralsurgeon6830]

@@tondelungu6376 this is the argument that Dr Sher and Nina make. The industry that has been telling us to eat carbs even tho you’re diabetic are being proven wrong and there is a great bottom-up groundswell of new information that will get those who are overweight and diabetic to cut carbs , heal themselves and both those industries lose.

[@maricamaas2326]

It is in line with the depopulation agenda: To make people sick, infertile, and to kill them slowly by providing disease management instead of health care.

[@norab7493]

I am currently reading The Big Fat Surprise and love Nina’s total commitment to do research - the appendix and reference section takes up a quarter of the book! She has read ALL the reports and studies and makes them available to us through her clear writing and logical approach❤

[@shekatagani]

Well all that can be said about this is... It's all about the money, Not about health for the consumer.

[@ianisenhour]

I cannot wait to see this map!! This sounds like something that could potentially open people's eyes to how the processed food industry really does control the food recommendations, and ultimately, the choices that we, as Americans have

[@finagill]

I finished the Big Fat Surprise a couple of weeks ago. The more I read of it the more pissed I got. I just can't believe that all of those agencies are just after the dollar and not about people's health. Great book, highly recommend people to read it.

[@Faith-Food-Fitness]

I believe we will help more people by sharing our experiences to better health. When people around you see changes with yourself, they come and ask. The battle is in the trenches.

[@pennylacombe4763]

❤❤❤❤🎉

[@tbletsg.4486]

Completely true, to start children's day with chocolate milk, orange juice 🙄

[@pennylacombe4763]

Back in the 1960’s, when I had babies, I refused to feed them juices. Mainly because it just didn’t make sense to me. Neither did I feed them cereals or anything resembling that because it seemed to me to be like letting them have cake for breakfast. I wasn’t thinking that I was doing anything particularly right until Rosie O’Donnell introduced low carbs through dr what’s his name on her show. I bounced in and out of that diet style but never fully understood because every doctor I had, until KZbin’s dr Berry and Nina, that my simple instincts were Right. By then I was sick with diabetes 2, and reversed that all on my own within five weeks. My doctor refused to support me. I’m in a small town and now have no doctor at all. Yet I’m healthy-er.😊

[@maricamaas2326]

One never knows what will be suggested next (according to most recent input from visiting pharma reps, or what was dished out by pharma-sponsored speakers at a conference). Only go to see someone when forced - in case of an emergency. Thankful to have been able thus far to sort out several health issues myself... There's a great wealth of free information available on the internet.

[@moparmissile]

Julie Andrews sang it "a spoon full of sugar makes the medicine go down" right out of the USDA rulebook

[@maricamaas2326]

Dr.Tent D.C. explains how this song was about polio drops - dished out to children - with sugar.

[@robertryan1663]

Nina Teicholz is a rockstar!

[@greensmoothieparty]

A Fatally Flawed Food Guide: by Luise Light (USDA Nutritionist) - she explains how the process of designing the first food pyramid was corrupted by industry/lobbyists

[@NoTrashInHeaven]

Good on you, Nina T!! God's blessings for tenacity to keep exposing the wrong and bring forth Truth 🙏

[@ketofortcollins]

That was a great interview. Love to hear her at Low Carb Denver 2023! Had to wonder when I read the newest FDA food guidelines last week.

[@LenaLukatsky]

Great discussion! It's so important to change the guidelines! Thank you for doing this hard work.

[@47445]

Thank you Nina for what you do!

[@lf4193]

I wish I could get her to write an article in my health food store magazines seems they are still not getting the true science there either and still promoting vegetarian, vegan and high carb diets with lots of supplements- of course bought and paid for by special interest groups AKA the supplement industries.

[@TCAPRecipes]

Nina is the best. I'm a huge fan of her work. Big ups!

[@goldblueberries326]

The problem is the Rockefeller foundation. They own most all aspects of the fda and the ama

[@taddoerrvandervoortjr.2943]

Thanks Doc. Thanks Nina

[@km3268]

Love these two!

[@Novmacar]

I learned about Nina from the Tim Noakes trials which is worth watching. 😉

[@maricamaas2326]

That was amazing to witness!

[@robgustafson8692]

Organic Strawberry Milkshake Frosted Flakes. Food as medicine brought to you by Kellogg's.

[@yvonne3903]

And the Seventh Day Adventists.

[@nunheadamerican6179]

how Nina can maintain her optimism, I don't know! she's a wonder.. a fast hour spent in your company.

[@pointshealthcoaching8474]

We are currently living in an authoritarian state... CA just past law to sanction physicians who speak out/ question or disagree with the 'group-think' that is being dictated... if doctors are scared to discuss medications, vaccines & procedures, you can be sure they won't give a rats ass to discuss proper nutrition, let alone nutrition as a treatment for chronic conditions..... the way guidelines are described by Nina just fall in step with a group think authoritarianism that is all pervasive at thos point in history.... scary that it's OK to poison children with processed sugars and fats & depleted nutrition

[@chazwyman8951]

It's capitalism. Big business have bought the government.

[@docl123]

She's great!

[@TomBrown-ij3jk]

Nina, you understand better than most that all government is corrupt. Changing our diet is going to be from the bottom up and will be slow. We will have to all have to try to help family and friends and the random citizens we meet in the grocery store . At times we will feel like we are wasting our time. I meditate weekly with spiritual friends some of which are vegan, and the reasons for there vegan diet are pitiful. I try to explain the science, the paleontology to no avail. I become depressed and then I rally and try again. That’s all we can do. I’m 77 and have been carnivore for 4 years. I take no meds and friends tell me how well I look. My friends on a vegan diet look like they should be in the morgue. They just can’t make the connection between health and diet. Maybe this is just Darwinism at work.🙏☸️

[@maricamaas2326]

The problem is also that since as much noise is made about the obesity crisis, no attention is paid to the very real problems that develop when suffering from various starvation-type eating-disorders (including veganism), which result from being super-thin, undernourished, and often over-exercised; eventually accompanied by the inability to put on weight, infertility, etc.

[@MichaelBLive]

Same food served at mental hospitals.

[@Damudean]

The guild lines are very serious here inJapan as the schools feed the children they can’t take their lunch.

[@angelgirldebbiejo]

According to the guidelines after my husbands by pass 60 carbs per 3 means and 30 each for 2 snacks. Oddly enough my sugar didn't spike. I thought it would as I'm diabetic

[@efx1213]

Can you guys debate Layne Norton? That would be informative

[@iammisskriss]

I ignore dietary guidelines and go with science

[@wingabouts]

I'm now own experiment , n=1. I've gone from being sick and morbidly obese to healthy and just overweight. I've lost 60 pounds, and am off all meds. According to the charts, if I lose 20 more pounds, I'll no longer be overweight. 👍 I did IF, then keto, now 98% carnivore. I still have coffee in the morning, but I'll quit that when I next run out. All along this journey, my doctor has preached at me to do low fat. 😡 So stupid - she can see my results are significant and lasting, and I've told her I'm eating high fat.

[@thomashughes4859]

Money talks; science walks! 💰☎️;🔬🚶‍♂️.

[@maricamaas2326]

Wonder where Dr. Robert Lustig is situated in all of this?

[@robyn3349]

Thank you. I can not help thinking, "Off with their heads!" (A figure of speech.)

[@Damudean]

For breakfast shouldn’t she eat breakfast before going to school?

[@mariannemedina4202]

I love Tina and her hard work to uncover the truth about the dietary guidelines. Shockingly our government is focused on depopulation not health promotion. Welcome to the Great Reset!

[@maricamaas2326]

Yes, it's all about depopulation of animals and humans - by using plants!

[@jmac3327]

There is a solution.

[@perrysebastian6928]

I appreciate the effort that the organic proponents are making to improve food quality, but the rating methods use to indicate the worth of organically produced products are total trash. Coke gets an A+

[@karunamayiholisticinc]

Why in the world should I agree Low Fat diets can contribute to heart disease? Look at all health promoting vegan players out there. Check how much carbs they eat. What age they turned into the diet they adopted? Is it sustainable for the future? Most of them left addictions and adopted an extreme diet but they have been practicing it with more care than most ordinary vegans would tomorrow if the population grows. It is easier to control temptations after a certain age especially after facing problems or maturing with age. But if we think that a low satiety diet will heal people long term and just "because" it is LOW FAT you can go ahead eat it without ends, I doubt that tomorrow processed low fat foods in stores will not be causing same problems. I know if India where people eat less meat and less dairy still has higher rate of Diabetes. I still prefer that people go for organic as much as possible. If diseases can happen in farmers, then I am sure everyone including vegans, vegetarians and omnivores will all face problems with it down the road. I think even omnivore doctors are speaking against these antibiotics and hormones injected to animals and same goes with plants where people can suffer diseases if they are not grown properly.

[@gmrbowden2133]

Oh wow so all I have to do is start getting "organic" twinkies and my diabetes will go away!!! Yay! 🙃

[@maricamaas2326]

Interestingly there are those like Dr. John McDougall, who advise to take in more sugar in order to make the pancreas work better... 😅

[@maricamaas2326]

The more different view points on that committee, the less they'll be able to reach consensus... Having someone 'all nuts' there, serves as the cherry on the conflicted cake 😂

[@CinSpain]

"It's not easy..." It's not supposed to be, I guess. As it's guidelines for the entire population... This, unfortunately, is what inspires and feed conspiracy theories!

[@swanee9414]

Carbs are very cheap compared to protein, so naturally Big Food is going to defend their money-making interest by doing everything they can to avoid anything having to do with low-carb.Cui bono, indeed. But, I would bet some serious money to find out if the insiders in their personal lives follow low carb diets...which I bet that they do.

[@maricamaas2326]

Like many ex-vegans who afterwards admitted to eating their meat in secret...

[@pennylacombe4763]

And: let’s not ignore the fact that many many hospitals are catholic and they will not have their physicians follow anything other than the old nutritional information and guidelines.

[@az10sbum1]

We need the "Experts" in nutrition excluded from these committees. We just need people who can read and understand the strength and weaknesses studies. How about physicists and chemists? Nutrition is a belief based profession, not a science based profession

[@KenJackson_US]

True, it SHOULD be a bipartisan issue, but it's not. 𝗗𝗲𝗺𝗼𝗰𝗿𝗮𝘁𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 *𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗹𝗲𝗺!*

[@mrrpgswe8931]

Nutrition science guidlines: You fund it, we find it. ... $$$ €€€€ ¥¥¥ is king...

[@LittleRadicalThinker]

Someone tried to debunk Nina as a lobbyist making big money using beef industry billionaires money. I thought, hmm, this sounds bad, then later I thought to myself, wait, how could Nina do anything if she was not accepting money from beef industry? Should Nina go to vegan low fat believer billionaires and ask for money to lobby against vegan in a sense? Sometimes arguments sounds so compelling simply are BS.

[@tomandersen7343]

Crazy - but though organic is not necessary real organic is free of toxic pesticides and I guess that we can agree that eating residues of pesticides are unhealthy or does dietdoctor disagree?

[@wingabouts]

I watched a recent video where it was reported the natural pesticides - inside the fruits/veg, to keep from being eaten - are many, many times more toxic and greater in quantity of ppm than our sprayed on pesticides. Sorry, I'm not able to quote who the channel was, I watch a lot of stuff. 😌

[@maricamaas2326]

The water-soluble antibiotic glyphosate; of which tons are used all over the world; is even found in rain water and breast milk. It remains active in the ground for more than 170 days... Babbling about going organic is just hot air.

[@maricamaas2326]

​@@wingabouts Are you referring to anti-nutrients/ plant defence chemicals?

[@wingabouts]

@@maricamaas2326 Yes, a plant's goal in life is to live long enough to multiply itself. It does this by NOT being eaten and all these chemicals/toxins are the way they fend off their predators. Some humans are more vulnerable to some of these defences than others. You won't know till you try a true elimination diet. Plants give me anxiety and severe joint pain, they also flair up neuropathy from 20 year old nerve damage. When I eat carnivore, I don't have any of these problems.

[@maricamaas2326]

@@wingabouts Encouraging to hear of your good results. Moving myself into the direction of going carnivore, though finding it a difficult transition to be giving up all the different tasty plant foods for a much less varied diet. Recently experienced being attacked by the alkaloid solanine in potatoes, after ingesting more potatoes than usual. It induced leaky gut with hyper-sensitivity to dust; stirring up an allergic asthmatic/sinusitis type condition (which had been resolved previously for few years already); accompanied by (for the first time) sudden onset painful arthritis in both knees.

[@iamvictimofscam]

The world is turning upside down by the supposedly experts in all kinds of areas, especially in the the most important area of all- the food we eat. All because of money.

[@mariannemedina4202]

The Great Reset!

[@VegasGuy89183]

Keto for 3 years, now. How long before channels like this one get deplatformed for "misinformation?"

[@joecrone9862]

Miss Nina acts like we should follow the money? C'mon man!

[@WayneW64]

Follow this and shorten your life

[@davidwinebrennerjr4196]

More lean protein. More fibrous veggies and fruits less saturated fat, less hyper yummy crap. This isn't hard. High sat fat Keto or LC is definitely NOT the solution.

[@jacklevoska8860]

#confidentlyincorrect

[@davidwinebrennerjr4196]

@@jacklevoska8860 just the evidence based RCT data. Not the typical voodoo from Taubes Fung et al

[@jacklevoska8860]

​@@davidwinebrennerjr4196 Citation required.

[@enila1212]

Well works for me and my friends. Plus my mum reversed diabetes, no more insulin

[@davidwinebrennerjr4196]

@@jacklevoska8860 you mean like all of them? Dude there is no downside to consuming lower sat fat more lean protein more fibrous veggies and fruits. Lots of downside to consuming MORE SF