Haha this was so much fun and challenging at the same time. You're a strong and technical man Mark. It was a pleasure to spend time together and we should do it again soon rather than later!
@JustinColletti3 ай бұрын
@theflowingdutchman Hey Dutchman! What kind of sandals are you wearing in this video? I want some.
@satishkpradhan2 ай бұрын
The "Aiappa" hit different.
@larrywestra93052 ай бұрын
Love to you both. Very inspiring.
@loganrwebb10 ай бұрын
Would love to see more videos like this discussing the differences in techniques with other coaches. It can be confusing hearing various training points from coaches without context about why they teach differently
@BluegillGreg10 ай бұрын
Very interesting to see you accomplished athletes correcting technique and improving execution mid-set while near your limits. It's a great example and a rare treat. Thank you!
@WalksAlone10 ай бұрын
Wildman and The Flowing Dutchman, I love it!! Pretty much polar opposites as personality types, and still they get along great. No divas in the room and mutual respect by the sheer force of competence. I could watch this matchup all day. 😎
@tahoehiker10 ай бұрын
Very impressive. I have to go lay down and rest after just watching this.
@wayneuber295110 ай бұрын
These two guys have already contributed so much towards fitness with these tools. It’s great to see them working together towards common goals with such respect and camaraderie. Bring us more!
@eliwallach534010 ай бұрын
Great perspective from 2 masters. Love both your content.
@BrokenKrayon7 ай бұрын
I know there's people who have zero experience with heavy clubs etc and will be like "I can easy dumbell press that, how hard can it be?", but please, take on board just how truly impressive this is!
@bto3305 ай бұрын
Anyone who thinks this might be easy should try swinging a 20 lb club for a few minutes
@FredOdle-im8qm4 ай бұрын
Ha ! Maces and clubs are eXtremely receptive, really wish someone would do a study on the actual forces generated per lb
@oldgrizz87208 ай бұрын
Standing Ovation for both of you!!!!! I'm new to club training and starting with 15lbs, sing hand, 20lbs two hands. I love both of you guys and your videos. Thanks for the instruction and inspiration.
@maxdax196610 ай бұрын
My favourite online teachers together lovin it .
@pattysylvanbutterfly43310 ай бұрын
Holy Moses….y’all are monsters! Nice example of what you tell us in the TOI program “if you breathe you can endure”…my new mantra. Fun to see you both together, great collab. Have a good workshop! 😊
@Sami_Reddy10 ай бұрын
Seeing you guys get excited over this training and having a good time was extremely joyful and fun to watch. Cheers
@lihchong226710 ай бұрын
I think this is the most joyful I've ever seen mark wildman. Two legends vibing.
@toddchamberlain7825 ай бұрын
2 day per week club training and 2 day per week kettlebell training per week sounds just about right for me…what I’m able to do. Any more than that it’s too much. So Monday Clubbell, Tuesday Kettlebell, Wednesday off, Thursday club bell, Friday Kettlebell, and Saturday/Sunday off is what’s been working great for me.
@cultofhercules10 ай бұрын
I run a program, 3x/week single arm 2x/week two handed with some double club mixed in (mainly DC front pendulum + squat). No problems with recovery. As long as you vary the exercises + weights so that every day is a different workout it's all good. Also, clubs hit the glutes + core differently than kettlebells. I used to think kettlebells 'fill a gap' in your routine but now that I swing heavy enough that isn't the case anymore.
@jacobcarrick118210 ай бұрын
Epic collab! The Dutchman uses a technique that is similar to the Korean technique. Very exaggerated pull. Definitely a result of longer levers. Very interesting seeing the two side by side. Just made history boys! Good job!! East meets West
@yourfriendtoby10 ай бұрын
Just two dudes I admire swinging some heavy steel... Go strong gents! Greetings from Holland
@braedenmoses10 ай бұрын
Looks like two different styles of shield cast here, both strong af, dutchman seems to drive from the bottom hand, taking the club and top hand by the same side ear on the load and opposite ear with the pull. Visa-versa for mark Cheers gents, swing on 🤙
@atomicstation9 ай бұрын
Well done with the heavy weight! Also appreciated the candid conversation between you two!
@calvintrainer12129 ай бұрын
Hi guy I began my club swing just about 2 weeks ago and absolutely love it. I watched everyone i can find. Though i am new to this training but my background in arm wrestling has helps me a lot. My shoulders seem to have healed up too. My calisthenics core strength helps so much and i cannot wait to someday reach heavy weight. May i mention that i train my wrists and forearms probably more than anything else. Like i say “I can’t wait to see where I’ll be 3-6 or so months from now. Thanks guys for all the tutorials and tips
@rebelgreen239810 ай бұрын
Dang Mark, that's freakishly impressive strength!
@bernardnlongАй бұрын
This segment was very helpful explaining the shoulders and his components.
@jaycegibson14542 ай бұрын
There is so much more control with Mark’s style especially with the use of legs but the Dutchman’s style made me realize something: if you eliminate the use of legs and try to drag it along your shoulder your core rotational strength is gonna be crazy. The mere effort tryna drag the club from over your shoulder to the opposite hip closely simulates a stubborn who doesn’t want to be thrown
@SaiyadNizamuddinAhmad10 ай бұрын
Very impressive. Thank you both for this excellent and informative demonstration of your respective approaches to heavy club swinging. You guys rock!
@cultofhercules10 ай бұрын
a vid of Mark milling a 28K with one hand would be EPIC
@TroyHardingLit10 ай бұрын
Love it! Makes me motivated to slap some chunkier weights on my club just for funssies.
@hiddenpandacapital69902 ай бұрын
Awesome job, congrats to both of you. That thing is something that really causes concern and I'm saying that as someone watching you guys do it : )
@dkawed10 ай бұрын
Hey Coach, holy shit! you're strong AF.
@changez7765410 ай бұрын
Man I love this so much - I wish everyone could see and learn from this channel
@rudycanda10 ай бұрын
I'm in the middle of my workout and this came up. I just had to watch it first, this is so awesome!
@dmitritsvetaev1298 ай бұрын
Yeah, I remenber the Great Wildman, doing 10.000 casts with thease. Seen it with my own eyes!
@mikebazis988310 ай бұрын
omg! my two heroes! You guys (and lebe stark) have guided me back to fitness from a THR! Ty so much❤❤❤
@patrickmcpike668010 ай бұрын
Mark, you are a beast! Respect!
@Terry6L910 ай бұрын
bravo. you need a gold plated man card now sir. that was impressive.
@brianhopkins525110 ай бұрын
beast mode. pretty impressive
@OKOVISIONGAMINGАй бұрын
This is like Hot Ones but with Clubs to me
@nelsonw2096Ай бұрын
😂
@troymatthews95419 ай бұрын
I remember that time when the flowing Dutchman tried to swing 55 lb of a mace single arm and said I need some magisum!
@ulchfirgne9 ай бұрын
I am coming up on a year of this style of training and owe a lot to you nerds
@lookingdown82909 ай бұрын
And I'm here grunting with my 25lb club :)
@siegfriedhorner44366 ай бұрын
Obviously, even if you're fit, but inexperienced, put your ego aside and start low. With the very heavy clubs, you can seriously hurt yourself. So develop a program, and gradually increase the weight over a long period of time. These two gentlemen have done that from some lower staring point. These can be excellent fitness and strength development tools. But be smart about their use. Thanks for the video.
@pe.bo.503810 ай бұрын
Damn!That cracking sounds at 6.20 made me real nervous!
@alannesbitt92166 ай бұрын
Maybe it was the Dutchman’s neck chain hitting the mic?
@9xqspx64 ай бұрын
Same here
@antonomaseapophasis514210 ай бұрын
The Flowing Dutchman seems like a nice guy, too bad he has fallen into the company of a madman. Also he is sensible: “Mark, there is a limit to what you can do with a swing. There is a limit.” 3:15 Mark is always giving the cue of bringing the hands down to the collar. This is so clear here where the swinging component is accelerated. Without it you have to put in a power move. 3:26 as evidenced by the push off the feet to get that monster moving. 4:04 the swing component is accelerated at the bottom instead of powering a pullover. It is possible the FD is stronger, he is muscling the monster 4:30 The Flowing Dutchman makes this accurate analysis: “from your swing it might be easier for you” 5:39 hands down by collar, feet flat on ground, with a little hop at the heels 6:28 Herculean effort, up on his toes to get the monster around.
@staying_strong_4evr10 ай бұрын
Awesome motorcycles... distraction guaranteed. Especially that boxer engine...180 twin
@thenrie9810 ай бұрын
I'm a bit surprised you didn't discuss how you go in opposite directions for the 360. The Flowing Dutchman goes top hand past same side ear. I guess that is just personal preference.
@MarkWildman10 ай бұрын
Oh, we talked about it a lot just not in this video. my shield, Cast comes directly from violence his comes from traditional movements in India.
@zachupton364710 ай бұрын
This is awesome! I've been looking at the Gladiator Club at Adex as a reward for progressing to the top weight on the Ad-On Kit
@MarkWildman10 ай бұрын
Rad
@troymatthews95419 ай бұрын
Why not just get some tiny 10 lb plates I'm sure it's Cheaper
@troymatthews95419 ай бұрын
@@MarkWildmanI hope one day you can do something with zinkunna and coach Tara and the gang for some nature synchronized workouts
@Matthca123510 ай бұрын
Such a European / American personality dynamic too haha. Theres a buddy movie in here somewhere.
@oscarbear749810 ай бұрын
Awesome seeing both you guys in 1 video!!! I would love to be in a class
@mrgleeson3610 ай бұрын
Mark is farm boy strong!😮
@guyblew173310 ай бұрын
Well you now have a new goal for this yr. Working at swinging those monster clubs.
@ChristianThierry10 ай бұрын
A bit over a year and a half of messing around with my Adex cubs and doing things Mark teaches here on KZbin and I’ve made my way to 40 lbs 360s and mills (2 handed), this year I think I’ll invest in one of his programs (unsure if basis of strength or the new BJJ one), aiming to get to some of those monster clubs in a few years
@terryharris129110 ай бұрын
I have been on the 2 hand club ,Mill/Squat program,since October 2023.I train 3 times a week on this.
@kajuken10 ай бұрын
The Great Wildman indeed
@benhayes957010 ай бұрын
Brave to be swinging those next to those bikes.
@MarkWildman10 ай бұрын
The Secret is not not letting go
@gavinmckee92113 ай бұрын
Y'all cray cray. Big ups
@larrywestra93052 ай бұрын
Love to meet these two awesome gentlemen.
@stevekubien668010 ай бұрын
Screw double clean and press with kettlebells. THIS is how you build a truly Herculean physique...or test drive the latest in orthopedic surgical techniques.
@jasonmurray471410 ай бұрын
These guys should do a cross-continent podcast. I'd subscribe just to hear them talk about this stuff.
@michaelstagar425410 ай бұрын
Hell yeah gentlemen. If you guys can do some videos with Kyriakos Grizzly thats the only thing that would top this.
@faithandfitness42110 ай бұрын
I loved watching this!
@edconnelly23810 ай бұрын
Beast clubs for a beast collab!!!
@jackedwin953810 ай бұрын
Mark let’s see a full session of your shield cast training.
@hanuom10 ай бұрын
I dont know how much mark follow indian mace lifters but in local akhara competition people wrestler's alot smaller than mark or flowing dutchman do 60 kg maces for upto 25 reps i have even seen a middle age competitor do 40 with one hand and do more than 12 or 15 reps so i dont think moving 50 kg is impossible. Its just that it will take time because it is a long process but i think its achievable. It you have the patience even i am planning that in next ten years i have to do single hand with 32 kg even if i do it for 5 reps 🙏😇
@blockaderunner10 ай бұрын
but our norse ancestors' swords and maces weren't a 4th of that weight, the armor had gotten worse though worn by the Condottiere late 15th century when the age of firearms or arquebuses started appearing on the field in combat
@frontlinebodies982010 ай бұрын
My 30lb club and I are going to find a corner to cry in. That's insane!
@MarkWildman10 ай бұрын
30 lbs is my favorite weight.
@EnchantedGrotto9 ай бұрын
Pant-ripper could be a nice moniker for heavy clubs :D
@soia4219 ай бұрын
Mark is a beast 👏
@troymatthews954110 ай бұрын
Park the club. Inside or outside the center line of your body . Swing to the outside hip snap then swing behind you and in front of you and behind you an outside swings on the sides of you I feel like this fixes your back
@ejh6610 ай бұрын
Holy Crap! That's a whole lot of Club!!!
@FatJackedNerd9 ай бұрын
88lbs Club was lifted and swung by Gulam Mohammed The Great Gama from Undivided India...
@ForteanEnquirer10 ай бұрын
Till I noticed his necklace, I thought that sound on the heavy swing was his shoulder joint !
@pe.bo.50389 ай бұрын
Yeah!Me too!👍
@ylimerivers5 ай бұрын
I thought it was his spine !
@orcapodmedia10 ай бұрын
"Heard you struggling from all the way over here, my man," said Chip Diamond.
@jackedwin953810 ай бұрын
Also if you got the flowing Dutchman there you might as well do one on the differences between the mace and club shield cast/360s
@MarkWildman10 ай бұрын
Didn’t have time
@pythonicinertia788110 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see Mitch Hooper shield cast and mill 1 of these.
@strengthandpower1017 ай бұрын
He wouldnt be able to lol
@MLeighland10 ай бұрын
Cool space. Is this your studio, Mark?
@MarkWildman10 ай бұрын
Yes
@moirajevtic552710 ай бұрын
Wow wow 👏🏻 well done amazingly 💪
@cioran17549 ай бұрын
Cool wall art 👌
@MarekKE-ei6ec10 ай бұрын
It is questionable whether it makes sense to hold only clubbells, macebells and kettlebells as fitness equipment for years... And what about TRX, ViPR, bands (used with various grip adapters)? 3 tools (CB, MB, KTB ... I own 4-6 of each), that's partly minimalism. That's why I also practice with the help of the tools I mentioned above. YES, because of that I won't become a "pro" at any particular one (because 6 tools = 2x less time per tool than 3 tools), but it will be more fun for me, and it will be better for the fascia. ..
@MarkWildman10 ай бұрын
I do Aerial as well
@nathansmitty359110 ай бұрын
Hey Mark! I just found your channel. I do swings myself but I use a sledgehammer and I strap weights to it to make it heavier. Sounds unsafe, I know, but it is very secure. My question is how much carry over to Olympic lifting have you found mace swinging gives you? if you do that type of lifting.
@MarkWildman10 ай бұрын
Well, your arms get really really strong. My Olympic lifting technique is not good at all because I travel all the time and I never really had an Olympic lifting coach and it wasn’t taught literally anywhere when I was young., but I still go hang out with my Crossfit buddies and do Olympic lifting. I primarily swing club.. but seeing as how Olympic lifting has no rotation in it, running a heavy club program like my basis of strength program twice a week will drastically help you cross train for your Olympic lifting
@nathansmitty359110 ай бұрын
@@MarkWildman Thanks man! I'm glad I found your channel. I really only knew one movement for swings. I'm gonna try and learn from your channel to have a little more fun with my swings. Thanks again! Keep up the hard work!
@Roninscobra10 ай бұрын
Hi Mark I just got your wildman mace from adex and my arms are already stronger 😂
@RobbyGT10 ай бұрын
🐐 🐐!!!
@jackedwin953810 ай бұрын
This is what the people want to see
@tbx5910 ай бұрын
Pretty damn impressive.
@ibaryabaq91979 ай бұрын
nice build
@Valoric15 күн бұрын
Good lord! How do you even get to this point? Amazing swings
@MarkWildman13 күн бұрын
Run a volume cycle with every weight up to that. Should take a few years.
@gondwana630310 ай бұрын
I think you guys ought to challenge the bodybuilding meat heads on KZbin who equate muscle size with strength. A few come to mind: AthleanX, Ryan Humiston, Superhuman Troy, etc. However, wouldn't challenge Lu Xiaojun, who is a weightlifter, not bodybuilder.
@strengthandpower1017 ай бұрын
Brilliant idea, these club/mace guys shud do that
@strengthandpower1017 ай бұрын
And i bet my life xioajun cant do what these guys do, these guys have different typa strength
@RandyPrater-d4m10 ай бұрын
Strong dudes!
@warlord2pfa10 ай бұрын
That was cool. 👍
@ctowen522210 ай бұрын
why does he do the shield cast backwards?
@vishalseusankar979310 ай бұрын
wow, monstahs! Amazing!
@travisblevins689010 ай бұрын
These guys are beasts
@DB-us6ke10 ай бұрын
2 legends
@joemurray890210 ай бұрын
Really nice!
@Slapshot_XXX10 ай бұрын
Awesome
@shawnbanerji9149 ай бұрын
I love you Mark and much respect to the Dutchman but 88lbs my dog?! Not sure the benefit vs risk is the right calculus....
@JEKYLLHYDE12310 ай бұрын
so strong
@panagiothsstaurou756910 ай бұрын
Hi mister Wildman im trying to combine kettlebell -clubb-barbell-sandbag-dumbell exercising together it's to ambitious or οπου υπάρχει θέληση βρίσκεις τον τρόπο?
@kelleebolden793610 ай бұрын
Holy smokes!! I'm still trying to swing a 25lb.club!!🤣🤣
@tommym8759 ай бұрын
Beasts.
@gurugolf743810 ай бұрын
How many people can swing 56K? Doesn't seem like a great business model. Great swings guys.
@jacko71710 ай бұрын
Two different hand placements for the cast. Can we talk about this?