Can you cheat in poker? | Daniel Negreanu and Lex Fridman

[@Operator-Nova]

I love how Daniel has seemingly gone from ‘Kid Poker’ to ‘Grandmaster Poker’ with his look. Lol

[@johnnyfry2]

lol, well said. From "poker gnat" to "Worlds Most Interesting Man" :)

[@weswes4187]

That's funny.

[@JazzYachtrocker]

And now he’s the master cuck of poker

[@jasonfullerton7763]

I love when nicknames evolve from descriptive to ironic. Like calling a skinny guy "Slim" but then he gets fat, Daniel went from being the youngest person in his games to almost being eligible for Seniors events.

[@peagee4518]

The more I listen to Daniel...the more I love his common sense approach.....no Ivey did not cheat...end of story.

[@genuEngine]

So Ivey only cheated in Baccarat, ummm ok

[@johnsonandyjohnson]

He did. He used the other lady to tell him what to do. If he never used her. He’d have got away with it.

[@rapid13]

@@johnsonandyjohnsonNo, he didn’t. The casinos agreed to the stipulations Phil set, including having her there to help. Not cheating if the house allows it.

[@danielgiordani7625]

Met him 10 years ago. Cool dude

[@DavidDiaz-wf8jt]

@@johnsonandyjohnsonthe other lady was an extra layer of deception. She was requesting the card rotations, in mandarin, to the chinese dealer. it needed to look like superstitious behavior.

[@iQKyyR3K]

Completely agree with the analysis. Either it's permitted or it's not. Casino agreed to the proposed game, player stuck to all the rules set up. Won fair and square, no in the way the casinos wanted, but still won.

[@Chuckdiesel86]

It doesn't even matter if money is involved, I've seen grown adults cheat against children in board games.

[@gabelincoln3608]

Hiw

[@random.9238]

😂

[@codybartholomew317]

Bro, I can't be playing monopoly for 2 hours. I just overpay for everything so I lose faster!

[@drogba4evah672]

Love to hear the irrepressible Negreanu talking about the legendary exploits of the great Phil Ivey. I could listen all day!

[@TheGeneral_LUFC]

Bet that 3 nil still hurts.

[@Optable]

Nice timing Lex!😂

[@luiscoello5655]

Why is that?

[@Optable]

@@blopabaresco3118 The night before this, but same difference

[@CushtyCrypto]

What do you guys think? Is she cheating?

[@dimorphos8916]

​@@CushtyCrypto Can't fathom the hand decision. I'm leaning towards cheating

[@Bryanpeacock33]

I don't think she was cheating but I do think Garrett making her give the money back was a punk move...you lost and forced an amateur player to give back the money

[@mattmiller237]

Mike Postle said it's impossible

[@Thahorr]

I knew this version of Lex could predict future controversies good job engineer team!

[@luiscoello5655]

Why are you sayin this?

[@Thahorr]

@@luiscoello5655 cheating at a poker tournament happened right before this was posted lmao

[@keithkelso9872]

Now we know Mgan’s thing was scripted

[@Paul-vf2wl]

@@Thahorr It's happened several times in the last 3 years

[@a.galvaop.787]

The poker speaks for itself.

[@dmitrynutels9340]

Nice. Hans would be proud.

[@TonyGrand79]

Haha

[@recondolaidy-slayer8468]

Ask your mom

[@Komarekdav]

Daniel is worried about cheating at a private game, but not at casinos and tournaments?? I’m loosing respect for Daniel stay away from podcasts that talk about cheating. Unless you’re ready to go all the way dude…

[@zym6687]

Baccarat actually

[@MrBeard17]

Casino kickback exploit: They paid 2 million to the judge instead of 10 million to Ivey.

[@sarahdeshay1394]

I was on a one night gambling cruise and did rather poorly playing blackjack that was up until I sat at an empty table on the left end seat and when the dealer would flip his card over (before I acted) to expose his top car, he was showing me his second card! I played for the last 40 minutes of the cruise and by the end was playing 3 spots at four times the bet I was playing when I sat down. The tough part was not hitting 17-18-19 when the dealer had 20 since I didn’t want it to get to obvious. I invited the dealer to have breakfast with me on the ride in to shore but he declined so I just gave him a very generous tip. My hope was to find out when he would be returning to deal on the ship so I could extend my “lucky” streak. I feel as if the casino gives me an edge it’s my right to capitalize on it, just as Ivy did.

[@mikefigures5075]

A cruise dealer helped me as well. I was the only one tipping. So when I’d lose a hand…if the rest of the table wasn’t paying attention, he wouldn’t pick up my bet !

[@userac-xpg]

cruises tend to have poorer dealers and casino controls.

[@kobrosk7422]

“That’s not something I worry about in a casino environment” not the greatest timing 🤣

[@powerstuffup]

J4 hand? lol

[@saucy05]

They definitely need to make a movie out of Phil's life.

[@MrPeterjeong]

Daniel is the funniest poker champ I have ever watched 😂

[@nickson1431]

Calling Garret, is there a Garret here?

[@rcnyoplait]

So informative. My favorite podcast in awhile!!

[@itsthem5699]

"Would you like to play my game?" Yes. :) *wins* "You were not supposed to do that."

[@brandonjohnson1257]

How long has Shia Labeouf played poker?

[@billyjean5934]

legend says he was one of the early pioneers in Vegas

[@PeterParker-vq2cz]

was this planned or did the stars align????

[@11Wholegrain]

Why? I’m out of the loopz

[@PeterParker-vq2cz]

@@11Wholegrain kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3-xfJ2NqMh-jdE Garret thinks Robbi cheated him last night, so much that she gave the money back and he accepted.

[@userac-xpg]

edge sorting isn't "almost not cheating" it's 100% not cheating. The casino offered the game, agreed to ridiculous requests by a whale that they wanted to fleece, and lost money because the player was smarter than them.

[@joshitheyoshi2533]

By that dumb logic, every kind of fraud is legal because the victim "agreed to it" (because they were deceived). In this case, Phil had a chinese advantage player tell his picked-out chinese dealer, in mandarin so others couldn't hear, to rotate the cards a certain way "for luck" which in reality was to allow for him to cheat via edge sorting. If he didn't do this deception and was able to edge sort anyway - he may have won the legal case. But he used deceit to fraudulently take the property of another.

[@PAWGmoth]

@@joshitheyoshi2533 is ur argument really that the request is no longer deemed a valid request, if you make the request in Chinese?

[@joshitheyoshi2533]

@@PAWGmoth lol no. The point was that he required a foreign-speaking dealer so that supervisors couldn't easily catch the suspicious request. Which as it turns out was straight up deception (supposedly for "luck" but really to enable cheating). It was a series of things all to enable cheating.

[@joshitheyoshi2533]

@@PAWGmoth whoosh...flew right over your head didn't it? Doesn't matter if it was Chinese, a secret code, a tapping device or something else concealing it.

[@prophetofthesingularity]

Never play cards with anyone named after a state.

[@johnfisher1674]

Online: Me and 7 friends join a higher stakes 9 seat table. We all agree to split all the money at the end of the day. We play poker normally until someone takes the 9th seat. Then it becomes our combined 8 hands vs their one hand. Once we finish fleecing him and he leaves, we resume playing normal poker. The only way they can catch you is hand history analyzing.

[@lionlawntreeandshrub568]

This is called collusion, and it happens all the time.

[@liammcilhenney4420]

Sounds like the house wins. Taking in the rake from you and your friends. There's no way one player is in on every hand.

[@johnfisher1674]

@@liammcilhenney4420 the house always wins

[@jumpingbombangels2856]

You could still lose doing this though if the player is good enough.

[@bifftannen66]

If you are playing high stakes there's very few new players join, so when 7-8 new players join that table automatically that would ring a bell to the regular. If it was high stakes you each would need to deposit a large sum each one of you, and also getting that off the site. Good luck when they start analyzing your hands and notice that 7 players joined at the same time, all 7 are new players, all deposited a large amount around the same time and then play against eachother at the same time on the same table. They wouldn't even need to analyze the hand history or need any kind of detection to catch that group. Not to mention the huge amount of rake you all needed to pay to make that profitable.

[@joshuapatrick682]

The ethics of casinos blow my mind, they are allowed to rig the game in their favor but when someone notices they messed up they can kick them put and threaten them for being an advantage player who exploits the casinos. They also hide thier money by having all the property owners being the real corporations, which adjust the rent on a monthly basis based on that casinoes revenue. That’s why all the casino management companies are always going in and out of restructuring, because all the billions of dollars get siphoned into the holding companies which are the real estate management companies

[@marklittle8805]

Casinos have all the games in their favor except poker. Poker, they just take a rake from each pot to pay for the room and dealers. The casino ensures no one is cheating but they don't have an interest in who wins or loses when it comes to poker. So when Daniel said he has no worries in a casino, that is why

[@johndee3301]

Remember that time in 1999 when Daniel called out like half the top pros in poker as cheaters. Doyle "never played in an honest game" Brunson? Ah, the R.G.P. days were fun.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

It was funny how shocked people were when that first generation of poker stars all turned out to be crooks first chance they got. Professional gamblers not having ethics what a concept.

[@ThunderChunky101]

Edge sorting isn't cheating. I don't care what anyone says. It's also not just imperfections in the printing of the cards, but the imperfections introduced by the dealers themselves that you can exploit. Very slight bumps and bends. Nicks. This is certainly not cheating.

[@hpbecraft]

yea it's the dealers making those marks. sure buddy. take whatever copium you want but it's cheaing 100%.

[@ThunderChunky101]

@@hpbecraft Read my comment again.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

If you hire the only person in the world who seems to possess this skill to work with you then it's most likely cheating

[@ThunderChunky101]

@@Paul-vf2wl What are you talking about? I never said the dealer is in on it... Read again!

[@Paul-vf2wl]

@@ThunderChunky101 I didn't either read again!

[@Arbiter710]

I just watched the garret clip, it is super suspicious I agree but I’m not quick to call someone a cheater just yet I think she might just be that bad that it worked out

[@xMeGaPeTeRx]

Yeh then I saw berkeys video at the end where it looks like she has some device in her pants on the side and her waist area and seat are vibrating… weird af lol

[@adeelali8417]

The likelihood that she cheated is like 85%

[@justaguitarplayer2059]

He looks a lot cooler with a beard

[@dirtmike6258]

looks younger too , as you get older , you look better with facial hair

[@docKAM]

@@dirtmike6258 he also bulked up. definitely took his health way more seriously after a certain point and it shows.

[@justaguitarplayer2059]

@@dirtmike6258 ya I’ve recently grown a beard for the first time at 37 and I’ve gotten more attention from women so it’s not a bad thing

[@justaguitarplayer2059]

@@docKAM ya I’m working on that aspect too

[@overratedgm5713]

Yeah I guess he's going for the Osama Bin Laden look

[@kevinsmith968]

Your asking a guy wearing a GG poker badge if there is cheating online . What's he going to say lol 🤣

[@ThunderChunky101]

Also Pokerstars. That was a HUGE scandal!

[@hurleycapetown8420]

Bro i just made a comment about being cheated on GGpoker and this guy deleted it,what an absolute fraud.

[@larrylucid5502]

@@hurleycapetown8420 also, Daniel defending Ivey is kinda meh... Cheating is cheating, no matter whos fault it is.

[@TheGeneral_LUFC]

@@hurleycapetown8420 its so easy to cheat on GG. It happens all the time. I had 4 to 5 accounts at one time. It insane when u play urself HU. There's groups of Russians and they all play same tourney. Say there's 15 to 20 of them. When they get onto same table they all share their cards.

[@TheGeneral_LUFC]

@@hurleycapetown8420 can lex delete ur comment?

[@ILmachiner]

Nobody is mentioning that ivey was in the Adelstein game. He wasn't in the hand, but if she was edge sorting, she would know Garrett had low cards.

[@overratedgm5713]

She would have needed to tell Garrett to rotate his cards 90 degrees 'for good luck'

[@youngrichie]

Which is the need for his Mandarin speaking friend.

[@Two_But_Not_Two]

Hey, I've got an idea: Solid color backed cards.

[@joshitheyoshi2533]

Solid back cards would show small dirt and smudges easier which can be used to "mark" cards. Edge sorting is only possible if the defective cards are rotated a certain way and splayed out next to each other. Which is what Phil deceived the casino into doing, claiming (via his Chinese partner) that it was "for luck".

[@SimonDover]

I only play private games. Rotating dealer. New packs. I always slouch back in my seat. Easier to read my cards privately. And also you can see the bottom dealers. I keep quiet. When they bottom deal I can see the cards.

[@steve7189]

Home games where I hardly know any of the players I have cheated. To me it’s easy especially when they rotate the dealer. Every time I was the dealer I noticed everyone pays attention to there cards or the action of other players. Nobody is looking at the dealer. I would use sleight of hand and was able to see the flop cards before I flipped em. Got so good at it sometimes I had to fold. Had 2/3 OFF dude raises $100 I had seen the flop was gonna be A45.. I folded I had too. But yeah I cheated. Casino though never have. But I will never tell anyone I seen a card by accident.

[@marshamer12]

The reason why lex keeps closing his eyes for so long is he's secretly blind, I have the receipts.

[@Vlow52]

You should ask Steve Forte about the stories and modus operandi in card cheating, he knows it all, private games and casino side.

[@KardSharp]

The best way to protect yourself from being cheated is to understand the various methods in which cheating can be deployed. This is not easy, as such information rarely gets published... start with Poker Protection by Steve Forte. A hard to find book, but a Jewel written by the most knowledgable person alive with regard to the subject of card cheating. Or look for my new book due out in March through Huntington Press: Million Dollar Mechanics: A Treatise on Modern Era Poker Protection.

[@unacceptablebilly1689]

Bittrex Global has disabled Canadians accounts and are holding our assets indefinitely. Please spread the word so hopefully this matter can be resolved.

[@Perspectives4real]

Perfect timing for that J4 hand, lol

[@pandatactical4530]

Great interview!

[@SVJROADSTER770]

Daniel is one of the GOATS in poker.

[@TheGeneral_LUFC]

I bet Dan had no idea who Maradona was or that goal u were talking about lol

[@moneymikz]

Only if you have blockers and knockers...alledgely

[@joshuapatrick682]

The issue with “cheating” today is the reality that anyone can play online with a solver on another device on a VPN… not worth the risk.

[@RobbinFlowers]

😮

[@RemoteHealingTherapies]

My fav poker player is my hubby. My second fav is Daniel N.

[@Miranda-bq4ii]

Lex, I still adore you

[@frankboy619]

I don’t see the need to cheat online because you can see there percentages when it comes to there action

[@rafaellima8996]

I currently go to a private game once a week. Just won $4000. Was down $1200. I worried shout them cheating the first night I played. Guy hit me quad 10s on the river the first night and I had aces full.

[@michaelanderson3601]

Yes everything the casinos do is to entice players to play more so eventually the player loses their money. And i work at a casino and im baffled on how Phil didn't get to keep that money blows my mind

[@ricobarth]

Ivey failed to calculate the metagame, where the casinos have corrupted the court system.

[@snowmonkeygonewild6937]

Because the cards were defective. A defective slot machine is also not legally binding.

[@michaelanderson3601]

@@snowmonkeygonewild6937 casinos adde suppose to check there cards before dealing so casinos fault for not inspecting their own cards that's not Phil's fault and should have been ame to keep that money

[@snowmonkeygonewild6937]

@@michaelanderson3601 Phil Ivey had a Mandarin-speaking accomplice who told the Chinese dealers to turn the cards a certain way to give him an unfair advantage. That wasn't part of any deal and the foreign language was used to keep English-speaking supervisors from noticing. If you think that Phil Ivey has no ethical obligation to inform the casino its decks are flawed, nor not corrupt its employees, than try and see if you get to take free money from the broken ATM at your bank and see what happens. Defective gambling devices aren't required to payout. This is the part Negreanu always fails to mention in his story. Ivey knew, and gained an unfair advantage on the house.

[@michaelanderson3601]

@@snowmonkeygonewild6937 dide that's just like CPU thing cards... it's "not" illegal

[@dejamike88]

Ivy was the one that actually got cheated in that case.

[@CrabbyOldLady]

One of the classic cheats on the old Mississippi riverboats was as crude as it gets. The cheater would have co-conspirators standing behind the victims. The co-conspirators would see the victims' cards, and signal them to the cheater. A lot of people lost a lot of money that way. Which is why I was shocked one year at the WSOP, when Negreanu was playing at an outer table, with his back to the ropes. I stood right behind him, behind the ropes, and I could see his cards every single time. I would have thought he'd be protecting them carefully, but he wasn't. I guess he was shielding them from the other players, but not from the spectators. I made it a point to never give anything away about his cards by my reaction when I saw them. But it sure made it much more interesting to watch the game.

[@martinhanssson2397]

Wow Daniel has really aged well. Nearly 50 and looks better then 10-12 years ago.

[@jmarvins]

hair transplants work, turns out

[@williamburdon6993]

I highly doubt Phil Ivey found the deck problem, there are birddogs all over the world who find loopholes, but they don't have the funds to exploit them or the nerve or whatever reason , so they tell someone like Ivey, and get a pork chop, If I were figuring out what actually happened I would say that someone who was at the place they printed those cards, was involved.

[@jdaz5462]

Phil Ivey flew to 30 casinos in ONE NIGHT? Come'on Daniel. Seriously bro?

[@mkUltra2.5]

I need more to this story

[@uFFFO]

Not only that, but he managed to lose or win half a million dollars in every casino. Was that night above the gosh darn polar circle?

[@hurleycapetown8420]

Daniel i used to like you but i dont believe for one second you are not aware that GGpoker is a scam,maybe like the Phil Ivey analogy you think because GGpoker gives GGcare,C$ and bad beat jackpots they have the right to run a site which is rigged and allows most forms of cheating at low-mid stakes,you have no empathy for the players because GGpoker gives them free money for being cheated its all good.

[@commodore92]

Boooooohooooooo

[@JJAA-e3g]

unlock things like in a videogame

[@jasmadsen]

I don’t understand the how Phil was “marking” cards by rotating them. Every casino I go to wash the cards by laying them on the table and mixing them around. How did he beat that?

[@Liwet.]

I think the cards were made by GEMACO. The specific set used by the casino wasn't mirrored horizontally so you could rotate one of the cards 180° and tell it apart from all the other cards. What Phil did was ask the dealer to rotate some of the cards. After the cards got put in the discard tray and then shuffled, he was able to see if a rotated card was coming up next. That gave him an advantage and let him win a lot of money.

[@jasmadsen]

@@Liwet. Well that's on them for not doing a card wash on the table...dumb, lol.

[@Roocklee1]

wow. i am so amazed from daniel´s beard. it looks so great :D

[@yevgeniygrechka6431]

This was a bit of a disappointing conversation (more on Lex's part since he didn't do his research). In poker you don't need any special advantage to cheat. Two players can simply play softly against each other (while playing against the rest of the table), and that is already a pretty large advantage. Very curious of how prevalent this is, but maybe as Daniel said, the people who cheat are weak players anyway so that it doesn't matter.

[@bryanjohnson8162]

The big thing is all of them aren't greedy some of them are doing it without ever getting caught and or still doing it we're just catching the greedy ones who are too stupid to keep it on the down low or stop when they're ahead!!!

[@sethsevaroth]

I think the way you can "cheat" is to have a couple friends playing together and splitting the profits with some "code" language to the other members of your little conspiracy to fold, check, or check raise at the appropriate time. The goal is to beat the casino or other players at your table.

[@thexel133]

No reason for the quotation marks around cheat.

[@PatMaddox]

That’s called collusion: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_poker#Collusion

[@guiagaston7273]

As if burn cards would help at all. You can lift cards at a time you know.

[@Liwet.]

Burn cards also protect the back of the next card in case it's marked in some way.

[@Mmmwwwmmmwwwmwmwmwmwmw]

Reminds me of the Astros

[@jallakka7149]

Sit and Go's were mega dodgy...join a 6 or 9 man table 2 or 3 cohorts will be gaming the table.

[@PSOnoni]

I know it's crooked but it is the only game in town

[@squigglyphrank9348]

Dude ages well

[@pretzelhunt]

million$ and the continuing ability to earn helps. Also, being Canadian..

[@saucy05]

Being vegan and hair plugs help.

[@pretzelhunt]

@@saucy05 oh what did I say...

[@TomdeZwaan]

From what I understood, Phil Ivey didnt do the reading/edge sorting. But a Cantonese lady did. Phil Ivey was there, cause the Casino wanted him as a big whale, He had the money so to say. And the Casino would do what he asked. Cantonese dealer/ same deck and so on.

[@briangeraghty1555]

I love Daniel Negreanu

[@hurleycapetown8420]

i used to before he became the face of the fraud that is GGpoker now i cant stand him,i used to admire a lot of the players who defrauded us all at fulltilt poker,i even partied with a few of them a couple times before i knew what scumbags they are.

[@vashthestampede9269]

lol. This is funny to listen to 1 year later.

[@paddington1670]

lol like professional paintball, the whole name of the game is to see who can cheat more than the other team

[@kouthao6156]

People definitely cheat online poker. Either its using bots or collusion

[@tonystarkironman316]

Daniel’s one haircut away from being Kratos

[@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810]

1 haircut and about 300lbs.

[@hersheyskwertz9315]

Wonder how Daniel feels about card counters

[@Liwet.]

Probably fine with it since it's not cheating.

[@Hacktheplanet_]

Well said daniel 👍

[@MrDobberdude]

It wasn't Phil Ivey who was spotting the faulty cards it was his hot Chinese friend Kelly Sun

[@louisagreste9823]

They definitely create coolers at cassinos 💯 it's like a magician.. so they shuffle it where you can't see it (under the table) then when it come up from under the table (no matter where you cut the deck it's a cooler)

[@maxg6321]

Ask Garret Addelstein 🤡

[@Make_Boxing_Great_Again]

If a poker player looses he would be expected to pay up, if a casino looses they burry you in law suits in order to get out of what they owe you. Casinos are the scum of the earth.

[@easygame7955]

I would *NEVER* trust online for a cash game, who the F knows what is going on. Live games face-to-face cash in hand with a square house and dealer there is nothing better, and they allow you to smoke and drink at the table. I play for fun I think I'm good but WTF do I know, let me F*ucking smoke at the table!!!!

[@FreeThinkingRealist]

When gambling you either win or you lose. If you lose, you must stop gambling. If you win, you will continue gambling... Here endeth the lesson

[@briangarcia5766]

The judges in these cases are supported by the casinos it’s not a surprise they see it the casino way

[@kitsune090]

Looking at back of the cards to know what card they are is cheating… but they let that happen… so they should fix it, but not ask their money back, since it was their fault… but to say it wasn’t cheating is naive… you’re not supposed to know the cards that are faced down, that’s the rule of the game, otherwise what’s the point of it? They would donate their money to him right away, no reason for playing…

[@itzMoJo67]

I wonder how well an A.I would do in poker.

[@siulanainad]

Was Goldfinger really cheating ?

[@tjmcmaster]

Did not realize who the guest was until I checked. That beard totally disguises him

[@Mmmwwwmmmwwwmwmwmwmwmw]

This guy could play Robin Williams in a movie

[@michaelb4538]

Can't play poker online without running into some kind of cheating. There's so many different ways you could be cheated out of your money it's not worth it.

[@edforbes1563]

Been watching that jason ladanye fella deal cards. Its definitely possible. That fuckers is unreal

[@stevenhornostaj5676]

Edward Norton?

[@cicirunner]

Big fan of this guy

[@trondalo13]

If he can see imperfections in the cards its cheating

[@muzzan1448]

Okay, easy answer to the question. Can you cheat in poker? Yes. Ever since the game was invented, ppl have been cheating playing poker. How and to what extent cheating has happened/is happeing? Well that could take many days to fully cover.

[@timberwolves100]

Pretty much all poker websites have rigged hands for action and rakes at the very least. I've been given and been on the receiving end of getting pocket KK or AA multiple times in a row. On top of that usually someone else will flop a set and another will hit a nut flush draw in the same hand. This happens at a way higher rate than real life random poker hands but it's quite common in the online world. There is HUGE incentive for online poker sites to manipulate hands for rake.

[@TaylorSmith-cc3vn]

You also see hands at a way higher rate when playing online than in real life so it makes sense you would have this happen for more frequently when playing online. I can go to a casino and play for 10 hours and see the same amount of hands as I would playing 4 tables online for 20 minutes.

[@timberwolves100]

@@TaylorSmith-cc3vn Yeah that is always the argument. But used to do online and live. Never the kind of insanity witnessed online. Once in a blue moon you'll experience a truly crazy hand where everyone gets a peice of something in live poker. But usually lots of folding and quick hands. You'll have rediculous streaks of hands online that instinctively you know doesn't add up. It'd be interesting to see stats from poker websites of how many big hands happen vs. a simulated random deal of real cards. But I'm sure no such stats exist for a reason.

[@jacksparrow3490]

@@TaylorSmith-cc3vn its the blind on blind action, its the 1 caller to your raise who somehow hits their miracle hand.. 1 2 and 3 outer all day.. yea not likely. Its rigged

[@TheCabIe]

@@timberwolves100 That's the thing with statistics - humans are really bad at recognizing true randomness and we love confirmation bias. It wasn't poker related, but in another card game, I could swear I was having a ~5% situation happen to me almost every single time it could happen multiple times in a row. I was sure there's some sort of bug in the algorithm. But when I started properly tracking the results I saw that it wasn't the case at all. You're right that in theory big action pots are useful to poker providers, but somehow artificially increasing these spots to the point where it's truly noticeable and no one catching it is pretty much impossible and stupid considering the potential fines/ruined reputation that would follow.

[@muzzan1448]

@@TaylorSmith-cc3vn Plus there would be many hundreds of players playing way higher frequency compared to a physical table. The thing with frequency of bad beats etc online might seem high to one player but very low to another. IMO, it would be more likely to have rigged hands with online poker where you aren't actually playing with real money, as the only way those site make money is when ppl actual pay real money for fake chips. So there is an incentive for them to keep those people on the line longer to spend more money. Real money only poker sites, would simply have a rake from each game played, so less of an "need" to "rig' the hands. Not saying it wouldn't happen, but I would think less likely. One other thing I'd want to know is where the poker site has been setup.

[@a55tech]

Give it to Phil for the exploit. But guess what, he didn't factor in the legal system. If u gon play the game of finding exploits, don't be surprised if the casino also finds ways. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[@robertaBooey69]

There will always be more cheaters than people trying to catch them online.

[@xTheReapersSpawn]

16th... I think. Fastest I ever was...

[@FrankinDallas]

I cheat all the time. Just slip an Ace or two in my sleeve. Easy.

[@joaomaciel1234]

He looks much better with a beard. No comparison

[@fastbreak0822]

Lex ..... Respect bro....... Comparing Maradona to Ivy is an ill comparison and analogy ..... Ivy is much more intelligent and methodical as Daniel describes him casino hopping... Maradona was just hyped up on cocaine and is too short to head that ball so he had to reach for it in the moment with that little dwarf arm..... Ones a cheater.... Ones a genius ...

[@user-ft2em6yh6y]

Horrible take

[@noobgun12]

You clearly forgot how good maradona was as a player

[@worldobserver3515]

Of course, there is cheating online. Just ask Chris Ferguson.

[@williamburdon6993]

I like Daniel Negreanu but just because he doesn't know how it is done, doesn't mean it isn't being done, they would have been better off to ask magicians and computer experts.

[@michaelmignone5869]

For online, i can see potential ways around external tools, but they also have detection tools running to identify unusual activity. To get access to everyone else's hole cards would require altering something and everypiece of critical software is monitored and hashes run over them to validate they haven't been touched

[@jackwoods9604]

That Beard is TOUGH...Looks Really Well on You Daniel