Where Is The Whoop 5.0!? (Did they scrap it?)

[@MariaSilva-hq7fh]

Amen! Just got my whoop like 40 days ago and I’m loving. Completely Love the product and I will subscribe 1 year. Just hope they keep improving and bring the whoop 5.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Welcome aboard! Hopefully we’ll see you over on the super secret club

[@SteveBIRK]

I kinda fell out of love with my Whoop. My biggest issue was that when it was on my left wrist if I went for a walk every now and again it would record hilariously inaccurate heart rate data. Would throw my strain off by a lot. Which if it isn't gonna get that right why bother.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah I know they just improved it pretty dramatically with an update a few months back

[@brah_ddah]

Ok for real mine really struggles with this. Is there some kind of design problem with it that causes this problem?

[@SteveBIRK]

@@BrandonTalbot i tried it after I heard about that update. I think it happened less often but was still getting weird spikes here and there.

[@NI-qs6cw]

I also find myself in the position of falling out of love with it. After 5 years, for me it something about getting contact dermatitis from the superknit band and watching my wrist bubble that was a major turn off.

[@ownitacademy8103]

Yep. I had whoop for 2 years. And then got a polar Hr strap and realised how inaccurate the whoop is (for me). And that was the end of that.

[@HamadAlMutairi97]

Wont get a Whoop till 5.0 comes out.

[@matteoozuliani]

Hi, just wanted to let you know that the price you pay is for the membership, so if WHOOP 5.0 comes out while you're subscribed you should get the new device for free. (that's what happened from WHOOP 3.0 and WHOOP 4.0 I believe)

[@HamadAlMutairi97]

@@matteoozuliani Got the Whoop two days ago and I love it.

[@matteoozuliani]

@@HamadAlMutairi97 Lets go💪🏼

[@jamesfhIII]

I've been a WHOOP member for nearly 5 years now, and I absolutely love mine as well. That said, Apple Watch is the gold standard as far as the accuracy of the sensor array goes. Since WHOOP has been in the wearable game since 2012, they should have a far more accurate heart rate sensor in 2024. The fact that they've gone 3+ years without releasing new hardware, during which time they apparently spent 3 years developing a new silicone band, does concern me a bit. I'm far more interested in new hardware vs. new colorways of bands! Keep up the great work, Brandon! I loved your take on GQ's "10 Things I Cannot Live Without'. You came as very authentic and genuine in said video!

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah Apple Watch has the best sensors but they’re pretty limited. They can’t pull anywhere close to the amount of readings the whoop can so it does have that goin for them. Glad you’re enjoying it! And thanks for the support!

[@jamesfhIII]

@@BrandonTalbot I have to disagree with you here. I’ve been wearing AW since 2015 and currently rock the Ultra on my other wrist. I haven’t found the sensor array to be limited in any way. In fact, Apple continues to add new features such as sleep apnea detection. They’ve also been able to take ECG readings for years now, and their heart rate sensor is so accurate it negates the need to wear a chest strap.

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@jamesfhIII it’s limited because of its power draw. It can only take readings once every five minutes during normal activity and around 12 per minute during exercise where whoop takes a reading every millisecond. Don’t get me wrong I love my AWU and I love what it can do but when it comes to sheer amount of data it can’t compete with Whoop.

[@muggetsuwow3758]

@@BrandonTalbotbro I use whoop and AW at the same time and I can tell you apple watch is superior in all aspects you can have the same info with 3rd party apps.The only reason I use whoop is because the app has comunity and can play and compete and see the info like recovery score or sleep from my friends

[@X.C_]

Hej BT! I think I’ll wait to see what the 5.0 version looks like but still very interested in the Whoop. Thanks for the update!

[@BrandonTalbot]

Thanks for watching !

[@thewildman4300]

The whoop is perfect how it is. Maybe a bit more accurate would be better but that could be said of them all. I hope they never put a screen on it the fact that it can be worn anywhere makes it the most versatile choice by all athletes

[@mrgringo7289]

A tiny Tiny screen or led led "screen" at the front side of the whoop that only shows recovery and time would be awesome imo

[@BrandonTalbot]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it

[@muggetsuwow3758]

@@mrgringo7289na bro get an apple watch for screen,you can do what whoop does with a 3rd party app like athlytic

[@SudhirPassey]

I have recently started using Whoop from last 40 days and besides that i have been a Garmin user from 3 years I think Whoop has to do a ton of work when it comes to accuracy of thier sensors its not near to Garmin.

[@georgesoto5436]

Well, we got steps now as of couple of days ago, Oct 10, I think they may be doing or taking the cheaper route and start releasing some of these features instead of giving us a brand new band. I hope I’m wrong, I am a whoop founder member, but do I agree with whoop needing to step up here. Great video!

[@BrandonTalbot]

I hadn't thought of that before but yeah that sounds like a possibility. Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@brah_ddah]

The only thing I feel like I’m missing is some kind of fatigue resistance score. I think garmin is winning in this area.

[@bradhexumOSM]

Great input. Thanks Brandon.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Thanks for watching!

[@cubtrees]

For me a big issue with the whoop was how inaccurate the wearables were. I like to wear a watch to work so I figured that the whoop boxers would work for me, after a week of wearing them I noticed my stress and heart rate would be 2-3x higher when wearing the boxers than my regular band, messing with my strain and recovery scores. I’m coming up now on my one year and don’t see much of a reason to renew unfortunately.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah it’s not going to be accurate in the boxers for that activity. It wasn’t the sensor it’s the location for what you were using. It’s meant to be on the wrist for everyday activities as it needs the accelerometer. When you put it that close to your center of mass (when not doing something very leg/hip dominant) it will not give you the most accurate readings.

[@robinkashar5380]

I love my Whoop. I also wear a Garmin 24/7 and if the Garmin tracked strain all day I’d quit Whoop in a second. That being said, I’m torn because my band needs to be replaced and my renewal comes up this month. I’m not sure I’m ready to spend $ on both those things and then have the 5.0 come out and have the band not be compatible (which is what happened going from 3 to 4) and have to extend my membership again to upgrade…

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah I wish I had more info to give you. Kinda in the same spot myself

[@JoshuaGassner]

If I buy a 4.0 and the 5.0 comes shortly after, will I get the 5.0 band for free to replace the 4.0?

[@BrandonTalbot]

That’s what they did with the 3 to 4 upgrade

[@fredgrejda4610]

I’m an enthusiastic Whooper and hope they continue to innovate I would love to see Strength Trainer evolve for ease of use and better insights on progress . With the smart scale upgrade it would be great if they could link the data for insights with nutrition insights. Super Secret Team member.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Stoked to have you of course brother

[@bmxtotheend]

I returned whoop for Oura ring. But I’m not liking Oura as much as I liked whoop for some reason. I liked how I could wear it when weight training and tracked my workout so I’m thinking of going back to Whoop along with my Garmin 955

[@BrandonTalbot]

Let us know how it goes

[@zehph]

They got complacent, too many people paying an expensive subscription for a subpar device, now that people started going back to smartwatches they might get back to the drawing board and start innovating, but an Apple Watch with bevel is the best compromise for me.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah I really am hoping for something big but I think it’s gonna be meh

[@LilHoshiofficial]

The next WHOOP 5.0 has to go much more than 10 metres under water, I hope it gives 50 or even 100 metres under water like an Apple Watch

[@BrandonTalbot]

Id love this

[@jamieweston3470]

What I would love to see is removable accessories. In particular an attachment that has a screen with built in gps module that you can then go out on workouts and not need your phone constantly. That way you can wear it screen free in general and then have an option to add a screen if you want

[@BrandonTalbot]

That would be cool.

[@justplanefred]

I don’t think it’s coming… I haven’t seen the question in my inbox yet Perhaps it’s because my subscription ends within 6 months. I’m not sure if Whoop has a patent on the charging of it device but I think if Apple or Garmin were to somehow incorporate a similar charging system where you never had to take the watch off it would be end game for Whoop or at the very least hurt their sales significantly I mean I’d rather loose my watch face for an hour or so than lose an hour or so of data. And let’s face it Garmin and Apple love to make proprietary products that you have to buy to go with devices you already own. I mean it could be like the iPhone you can wirelessly charge it or you can plug it in…

[@BrandonTalbot]

That would be cool - and I’d be down for that.

[@MikeGRO8]

Samsung released the Galaxy Watch Ultra a while ago which is amazing, in my opinion. Tracks the same data as Whoop during sleep (HRV, skin temp, resting HR, etc..) and I am comparing it to my Whoop. I'm pretty stoked about the Galaxy Watch tbh. I still wear my Whoop on my right wrist but don't check on the app very often since I have the Galaxy Watch. My Whoop membership ends in a few monts, as the Galaxy watch is amazing and for my Workouts ultra accurate (running and lifting weights), I don't see myself renewing my Whoop membership. I love the ST on my Whoop for my lifting workout... but wearing and paying the whoop for only this feature. Tough times for whoop right now.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah if it doesn’t make sense there are some seriously great smart watches out there

[@MikeGRO8]

@@BrandonTalbot after a few weeks, i am wearing the whoop again, though I am wating urgently on Whoop 5.0. Sleeping with Watch and Whoop nowadays. Once you love whoop you'll stick to it, i guess. I just love the strength trainer feature and the easy to use navigation within in their app.

[@mellymoo_eats]

I'm leaning towards the google Pixel watch 3 since it has a better sensor than the Whoop band.

[@oliverwarner9900]

I’m looking at getting a whoop, do you think I should hold off until news of 5.0 or should I just get the 4.0 now?

[@BrandonTalbot]

I’d go for the it now, we have no clue when the 5.0 is coming.

[@JohnKada]

As a whoop owner they definitely delayed Whoop 5.0 way too much. I get it’s more software than hardware but at this point my whoop is behind compared to other tracking options in terms of excitement and technology.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah you gotta build a little hype by not coming out with a new version every year but this is a lot of expectation now.

[@icarus33]

What a great video! Whoop should watch this!

[@BrandonTalbot]

Thank you!

[@Jimmybfit]

If whoop 5.0 is comming u will be to know before us, so ad leased 2 months to go for an update.

[@BrandonTalbot]

I wish that were true. I’ve never known in advance

[@vothry]

Waiting on the Series 10 delivery to pair with the Athytic app. I’ve canceled my Whoop subscription after going 8 years strong. It was essential when there were no other options. But now I can reduce subscription cost to $30 a year versus $30 a month while owning my device with all the other features.

[@maeckes089]

Still there is one big issue with the Apple Watch: outside workouts it very irregularly measures heartrate. During sleep even only between 5-7 times per night. Whoop measures constantly - thanks to not having a screen. This makes the Apple Watch data despite having the better sensors still less accurate. Also leading to scrapping any native support of HRV measuring as apple knows it records not enough data outside workouts that this would be simply not insightful.

[@talkelley3]

I recommend Bevel much more over Athlytic. I've used both. Bevel's UI and recovery percentages align much better with how I feel.

[@BrandonTalbot]

That’s true

[@luisbecerra8128]

I’ve had WHOOP for over 2 years…left for the Oura ring and came crawling back just over a month ago…but it would be nice to have a WHOOP 5 though!

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah I hope it gets here sooner than later

[@Maxible]

Just bought a Whoop 4.0, YOLO 😂

[@BrandonTalbot]

I think you’re safe either way.

[@Aspire.]

@@BrandonTalbot doesn't the upgrade give you a new device each time a new one comes out?

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@Aspire. no not necessarily it isn’t written into the terms and conditions anywhere. That’s just what they did for the last upgrade for anyone with longer than six months on their contract.

[@hayden8504]

Ever look into the emf data on whoop? Thoughts?

[@BrandonTalbot]

I’ve not seen any long term EMF data/studies that have me worried about emf levels coming out of wearables and phones.

[@richardcampbell3731]

Great update Brandon.. literally as i'm typing this my whoop is getting a firmware update.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Nice!!!

[@mrgringo7289]

What changed after update?

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@mrgringo7289 the accuracy of its HR measurements

[@schneiderelly]

I have an Apple Watch. I like how the Whoop is just a black band. I won't wear two watches. Too weird

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah I’m not a double watch guy either

[@marty197666]

I’ve had whoop for a couple of years now. I’d prefer a smaller product really. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@BrandonTalbot]

It could happen

[@Xupgeeks]

I am using the Ultrahuman ring , Apple Watch and WHOOP…. Perhaps a little excessive. I am seeing more useful insights coming from the ring. I like the whoop but the ring battery is longer and has more updates and features.

[@BrandonTalbot]

It has different updates and features

[@brah_ddah]

Yo where is the join link for the super secret whoop club??

[@BrandonTalbot]

Down in the description :) welcome aboard

[@tjarkveltrup5580]

I would love a button and a microphone. Imagine giving input like „start sauna“ or „next set“/„set done“ that would be insane

[@brum293]

Rumour. But a first hand source said a new smaller whoop is coming.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Nice!

[@jamesfhIII]

Just noticed that there’s no longer an option to add WHOOP Pro to your membership within the app. I had let my Pro expire and was hoping to add it to my membership through the end of 2025.

[@BrandonTalbot]

I think quietly they did away with it

[@gabrieliface1350]

all true Brandon :)

[@maxmustermann8041]

If I buy a biceps band now, will I be able to use it with the 5.0?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Well the 5.0 isn’t out yet so I have no clue

[@MKGamingInvesting]

Step counter and maybe a tiny screen