Can you predict an earthquake?

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Jeff Geerling

Jeff Geerling

Күн бұрын

For decades, researchers like Dr. Bob Herman relied on paper and ink to study earthquakes. The Raspberry Shake helps geophysicists get more data around the world as citizen scientists can participate in ShakeNet, a global aggregation of real-time seismic data!
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Mentioned in this video:
- Raspberry Shake: raspberryshake.org
- SLU's Earthquake Center: www.eas.slu.edu/eqc/
- SLU's real-time seismograms: www.eas.slu.edu/eqc/eqc_netrt...
Contents:
00:00 - Meet Raspberry Shake
01:21 - An actual expert
01:57 - Smoke paper and sesimographs
03:16 - More data, less travel
05:08 - Seismic vaults
07:18 - A sensitive subject
09:26 - How's the Shake stack up?
11:06 - My First Earthquake
12:08 - Who cares about seismology?
15:11 - Citizen science on a global scale

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@SmokeytheBeer
@SmokeytheBeer 2 жыл бұрын
As a scientist, I can relate to spending most of my time preparing the data. That hasn't changed, the difference now is we write programs to compute terabytes of data. Very cool to see this evolution in a different field.
@notafbihoneypot8487
@notafbihoneypot8487 2 жыл бұрын
Its finally here kzbin.infoNlhBppjxnqs?feature=share
@Vontux
@Vontux 2 жыл бұрын
The noise isolation reminds me of LIGO, had a friend who did his undergrad work with the project, most of the early days was figuring out how to filter our local noise. He sent me a recording once of a telephone call he was able to decode back into audio that the equipment had picked up.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
It's incredible what data can be pulled out of a signal most people would think is just noise. Dr. Herrmann and I talked about a lot more than just what was covered in this video-he mentioned he did a number of studies on the local noise at SLU in the 2000s, I think, around the time when I was a student there!
@swankshire6939
@swankshire6939 2 жыл бұрын
I love how they haven't moved the old ones because they are very heavy.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think of it as "preserving history" 😂
@cpattullo1
@cpattullo1 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling and your back
@GimmilFactory
@GimmilFactory 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you reach out from the normal video format of simple computer stuff to showcase other people's work and how it relates and is enriched by your channel's main focus. Keep up the original content!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is when I post a video like this, I know it's not going to get the same views, so in a sense, KZbin as a platform disincentivizes this more educational type of content... But for me, I try to throw in a video like this where I stretch a little further and try to learn something new along with everyone watching the video, because it keeps the mind sharp :) Plus, I mean, it still has a Raspberry Pi, so that's the tie-in!
@crazyeddie2221
@crazyeddie2221 2 жыл бұрын
I make seismometers for a living, so this was interesting to watch. Recognise many of the instruments in that vault. Good to hear that people on the other side of the pond call the traces on screen 'Wiggles'. Spent far to many hours staring at wiggles to determine good sensors from bad.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true seismologist.
@noahhorler1771
@noahhorler1771 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling this comment thread made my day ngl xD
@JCWren
@JCWren 2 жыл бұрын
I won't say the price is out of line considering what else is rolled into the cost (as mentioned in the video), but it's above my WTHLBI (What The Hell, Let's Buy It) threshold.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
True; and I didn't include things like the pre-flashed microSD card and the Raspberry Pi power supply, which add on maybe another $30-40 to the BoM. So not a terrible deal, if you're truly interested in seismology and want to join ShakeNet.
@mihirpatil8843
@mihirpatil8843 2 жыл бұрын
pun intended?
@Moonlight0551
@Moonlight0551 2 жыл бұрын
I have had a 1D running ever since they were launched. Just sitting on a concrete block in my garden shed. I am located in Sydney Australia and regularly see signals from earthquakes in the Pacific rim, from Indonesia, Tonga, New Zealand and even Antarctica. Such a great little device. I am glad to see you doing video on them. Well done.
@shemmac4700
@shemmac4700 Жыл бұрын
Wow that’s cool. Thinking of getting one myself here in Adelaide.
@PurpleSpiritFoxFire
@PurpleSpiritFoxFire 2 жыл бұрын
My dad is a geologist and he always talks to me about these stuff. i got intrested and took a geology class. it's interesting.
@swbusby
@swbusby 2 жыл бұрын
$400 for entry level, and almost $1000 for the standard model is a bit steep in price for a Pi project.
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 2 жыл бұрын
OK, think of it as as an Earthquake detector that's Raspberry PI compatible.
@earthling_parth
@earthling_parth 2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool. Working in software engineering I realize the importance of data when researching an event, so having lots of these around the globe will improve scientists' understanding a lot. I want to contribute but it's a bit outside my price range for just cool science projects I would like to own. Amazing work by the Raspberry Shake team 👏
@raspishake
@raspishake 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Rafy_24
@Rafy_24 2 жыл бұрын
I worked for a while in a Scientific Center about geology. Its a fun and amazing science. Nowadays its all digital. GBs of data. The sensors are really sensitive tho. You can "track and see" storms, fireworks, cars even planes and lighting bolts. We even detected a meteorite that entered the atmosphere near by. Seing something like this using the raspberry pie is just awesome. A global seismic network of raspberry pies :D
@0tiochico
@0tiochico 2 жыл бұрын
This video was super awesome and i can very much relate to that. In my undergrad days i used to monitor a seismic station 10 years ago, complex job, lots of math and programming involved. I'm not from the generation that used smoke paper or analog sensors, but we had an broadband seismometer connected to and old pentium PC. I've always thought how could it be to make a simpler yet effective seismometer using some small chipsets, and now we have it! Seeing the professor using Linux command lines and combining and stacking various seismograms to determine it's where it happened and magnitude reminded me when i used to do it. I remember a fun day, when i basically freaked out when i picked up the 2011 earthquake in Japan (that caused the fukushima accident), i went running to my supervisor to warn him, that same day a reporter from the local news came to interview us about the quake. Outstanding day!
@raspishake
@raspishake 2 жыл бұрын
Super cool video! 🙌👏 looks like you had lots of fun testing our Raspberry Shake! 🤩🤩
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed I did!
@earthling_parth
@earthling_parth 2 жыл бұрын
I totally understand the price working as a software engineer how software upkeep and infrastructure in cloud/hosting would be a big part of the cost. This is an amazing global citizen science project which is crucial and extremely helpful when researchers want to understand a specific seismic event.
@SeanHodgins
@SeanHodgins 2 жыл бұрын
There is a bad pothole/manhole cover on the road near me and big trucks are constantly shaking my house during the day when they hit it. I don't know how useful my data here would be. But maybe I could find some exposed bedrock near by and setup a remote solar/battery shake on LTE. That would be neat!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely! Networking is sometimes the hardest part, because to get better data, you want to be isolated from structures / deeper in the ground. That's precisely where wireless signals can't get :D But if you can run PoE to the device, you could get by with one Ethernet cable to it.
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 2 жыл бұрын
It might be useful data to get them to repair the pothole.
@jimgbf
@jimgbf 2 жыл бұрын
Does pothole data just get thrown in with "real" data?
@TempestKitty
@TempestKitty 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more of this sort of content from you! Interviews with profs and experts in their fields is always super cool ! Love it !
@BestLittleStudio
@BestLittleStudio 2 жыл бұрын
That data telling you about the washing machine and dryer is great to be able to automate and work on things, lights can flash when the laundry is done, you can monitor all kinds of things that produce a change in the air pressure and vibrations in the house and setup automations to respond to those things. It seems like it may also be sensitive enough to combine with a power sensor to quickly identify what appliance is causing a power draw and a whole bunch of other ideas. This is so neat.
@johannnn
@johannnn 2 жыл бұрын
I have so much respect for all these scientists who have been studying their fields for 20+ years. It's incredible!
@rayoflight62
@rayoflight62 2 жыл бұрын
I have operated a swiss-made smoked paper seismometer up until 1984; they were particular cheap to operate. Normal seismometer like the famous Geotech S-13 are velocimeters, as they measure the prime derivative of the Earth movement, with a cutoff frequency of 1 Hz. The geophone used in the Raspberry are accelerometers, measuring the second derivative of Earth movements; a measure of less value. The true value of Raspberry sensors is their networking, and the filtering and crosscorrelation of data. The true forecast job can only be conducted with the study of telesismology, measuring Earth movements with a period of 20 seconds up to an hour. I believe this type of information cannot be extracted by the Raspberry Shakes.
@lfarge
@lfarge 10 ай бұрын
The cleanliness of the place is staggering! It says a lot on the way of working!
@UTubeRangerBob
@UTubeRangerBob Жыл бұрын
I was an AFTAC nuke sniffer back in the 70s-80s. Then went to work as a contractor for USGS. And finally for the NSF/IRIS EarthScope project. I've worked on just about everything seen in this video including the Benioffs. While working for USGS I had to replace a set of Benioffs with fancy new Streckeisen sensors, which look a lot like the Nanometrics Trilliums seen here. I had to haul the 3 Benioffs on a sled behind a snow machine across a frozen lake in Kevo Finland. Had to scoot across as fast as possible because the ice was cracking due to the weight of the Benioffs. Seen but not mentioned in the video is a Quanterra Q330 digitizer. Every product made by Quanterra is named after a John Deere tractor because the company founder is an old tractor enthusiast. The JD 330 was a johnny popper from the early '60s. Also seen but not mentioned is a Kinemetrics EpiSensor strong motion accelerometer (black hockey puck-looking thing in the middle of the pier). It's used to record the really big and/or local quakes that would over range the more sensitive seismic sensors.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that, it's really fun hearing the field stories from people who've been involved in geology... you get to deal with caves, forests. urban areas... and apparently ice fields and sleds!
@zb9458
@zb9458 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff! Just wanted to say thanks for posting such a great video! It's really inspiring to see how us regular citizens can help contribute to something bigger. While I won't be purchasing a Raspberry Shake, I could see myself participating in other similar pi driven ventures that also have a slightly lower price point. Cheers!
@wyohman00
@wyohman00 2 жыл бұрын
I've had mine since the original kickstarter, station R70B6. I also have the three axis version and the raspberry boom add on.
@johalun
@johalun 2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting. I had no idea. Thanks for sharing!!
@weirdsciencetv4999
@weirdsciencetv4999 Жыл бұрын
I remember my last year at Caltech, we had a few minor earthquakes. Every time a news crew came out to the back of the Wilson building to do their story. I remembering touring the tunnels below tech and someone showed me the pillar where the seismometer connects to the bedrock.
@frankbohnen2347
@frankbohnen2347 2 жыл бұрын
THX for the inside of your hometown, it's always nice to learn something about someone's community. It's almost 38 years ago that some friends and I were in the Saint Louis Arc.
@billdberger7407
@billdberger7407 2 жыл бұрын
That vault is a mess, they really need to plan a few days of downtime for modernization and housekeeping. I've seen projects that are in similar condition end up with major downtime because once something goes wrong it takes so long to troubleshoot due to the mess.
@c7261
@c7261 Жыл бұрын
That was a very interesting video. It’s wonderful when these types of resources become attainable by average consumers. I mainly came on here to remark how cute the outtakes were at the end. You are simply adorable and I’m certain you’d make an awesome Dad ♥️
@stephanburger8710
@stephanburger8710 2 жыл бұрын
I like that you don't talk about "computers" only on your videos! (Please excuse my bad english).
@Dusty_Ham
@Dusty_Ham 2 жыл бұрын
As someone living in New Zealand (which is very earthquake heavy) this is super interesting. I'll definitely have to check into this. Nevermind just saw the price. Unfortunately well outside of my reach at the moment.
@niklas7816
@niklas7816 2 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel and already loving the videos.
@Flash1857
@Flash1857 Жыл бұрын
Years ago I made a seismograph, ran for about 8 years using AimSens or something. Going to get this ASAP thanks
@tdtrecordsmusic
@tdtrecordsmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I kno Jeff loves his computer work, but I gotta say. His tenacity for completeness & unshakable commitment means he would make a great scientist.
@blevenzon
@blevenzon 2 жыл бұрын
I flipping love your YT channel, THIS!!! so so cool! Thanks Jeff
@m.gwincinski6949
@m.gwincinski6949 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who already owns compatible Raspberry Pi can save a ton of money getting DIY kit from them. For example - sensor, hat, case and software sells for $214.99.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention this during the video, but yes, for anyone who has the inclination and a Pi sitting in their drawer, that's a much cheaper entry point.
@___aZa___
@___aZa___ 2 жыл бұрын
That's so cool! I think this is the most interesting video you have posted so far! Great job!!!
@nomadelog
@nomadelog 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff. Great interview, bring more anytime...Nice video ending !
@Space_Reptile
@Space_Reptile 2 жыл бұрын
i love the startrek special effects used in the intro
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
That was exactly the inspiration :D
@cpattullo1
@cpattullo1 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff. Great video, as always! And thanks for the balanced explanation on the price. It seems counter intuitive that they have a network that they want people to contribute to, and benefit from more contributions, but charge a significant premium for those participants to contribute. Especially since the contributors likely get far less from the net data output than the global program does. It'd be nice to see if they were able to secure funding to cover their operating costs and flip their model. I'd expect they'd be able to get *far* more participants - including schools all over. Probably unlikely at this point given how many people have already bought into the model though.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
It would be neat if places like school districts and/or local governments could fund a program to get one (at least) in each school... but projects like that always seem to be underfunded-or not funded at all :(
@cpattullo1
@cpattullo1 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling yup. Citizen science is certainly not up on the list of priorities. Especially if they're not subsidized. I wonder if they can't offer a school discount...
@geerliglecluse5297
@geerliglecluse5297 7 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed watching this video. More please!;)
@jonathanleach3914
@jonathanleach3914 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Excellent film. Thank you
@muddyexport5639
@muddyexport5639 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information/news.
@ph5915
@ph5915 Жыл бұрын
Cool video! When I was 12 yrs old we lived for a year on the island of Guam, which averaged 23 tremors a day. Most of them, we didn't feel or just barely felt. If there was a hanging plant or lamp you would see them. However, that year, we had a 6.5 and a 6.75 on the Richter scale, which was, Uhm, scary. But the buildings and infrastructure were built for this (as well as they could be). The island is the peak of the underwater mountain where the Marianas Trench is, the deepest part of the Pacific Ocean. I'd be certain there are some Geologist stations/equipment there!
@ddr874
@ddr874 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative! Thanks Jeff!
@WololoArgent
@WololoArgent 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome history of science video Jeff.
@sandmanxo
@sandmanxo 2 жыл бұрын
Cool setup but more than I want to spend for a project. If they can get it around the $100 range at some point I'd love to put one put at my remote property in Texas.
@jj358mhz
@jj358mhz 2 жыл бұрын
"Hey kiddos, that whiteboard is going to account for 65% of your final exam"
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I'd be doomed!
@WobblycogsUk
@WobblycogsUk 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool project. Shame it's a bit outside my price range for an "oh, that's interesting" purchase.
@Shocker99
@Shocker99 2 жыл бұрын
I quite like the idea of contributing towards research. But i feel that a university/research council should subsidise at least some of the cost since they're the group that will benefit from it. Eg. I do folding at home and all i had to pay for was a used computer and the power to run it. And if not subsidised, it should be open sourced to drop the cost.
@WobblycogsUk
@WobblycogsUk 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shocker99 I had a good look at their offerings after the video and it seems they are subsidised, probably. Home and education users get a $125 discount but commercial / government pay full price, I assume one subsidises the other. That still puts the DIY kit over $200 though (and I'd need it shipped internationally as well). If I was into this sort of science I'd definitely buy one but it's a bit much for just interest factor.
@jazzdirt
@jazzdirt 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it should get funded/subsidized ... 400 euro is kinda steep idd.. And the more of those things are around, the better an earthquake early warning system would work...
@dffabryr
@dffabryr 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Chile, It would be really interesting to have one of those boxes at home, I'm close to the San Ramon fault in Santiago ...for me the price is a bit high, but I will figure it our how to get one
@jazzdirt
@jazzdirt 2 жыл бұрын
@@dffabryr Try get geologists to sponsor you (?) Explain to them how you putting one there also benefits them...
@adraintokyo7994
@adraintokyo7994 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I already have a RasperryShake 3D (living in central Tokyo) but still found Jeff’s presentation informative and interesting. They are fun devices to have at home, especially if you pair them up with your own home-brew strong motion sensors (based on low-cost MEMS accelerometers). Thanks Jeff - always look forward to your content.
@MadsonOnTheWeb
@MadsonOnTheWeb 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful episode
@kostal1991
@kostal1991 2 жыл бұрын
Tectonic plates will jiggle, jiggle, then fold Now go log in to WIGGLES, WIGGLES, for sure
@ri3m4nn
@ri3m4nn 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect shaking for Red Shirt Jeff
@garrytuohy9267
@garrytuohy9267 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. I am looking forward to seeing how the RPi can be used for Meteorological and Oceanographic research.
@awesomedee5421
@awesomedee5421 Жыл бұрын
If they can reduce the cost, I think more people would put up a sensor giving them more data.
@asdipaus
@asdipaus 2 жыл бұрын
Very Very interesting vídeo. But ALL those ones cables into the room make me shake in my chair (little organization pleeeease) 😂😂😂
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Herrmann called that room "the mess" :D
@Catge
@Catge 2 жыл бұрын
Good work Jeff
@yonaguska2050
@yonaguska2050 2 жыл бұрын
I have one from their initial rollout. Pricey, but worth it.
@cyberspark1341
@cyberspark1341 2 жыл бұрын
Best post-credit scene yet.
@BearMeat4Dinner
@BearMeat4Dinner Жыл бұрын
Waving hi from SF! I know when it shakes cause afterwards I gotta check the whole house. Da house stands by itself. We kept up the last very bad quake in the 20s. Da house has been in the family for 84 years.
@jackcrane2539
@jackcrane2539 2 жыл бұрын
I’m off to SLU next year!! they do some really cool stuff there.
@roostertechchan
@roostertechchan 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff in Year 2035: Here's how you build gravitational wave measurement project with Raspberry Pi.
@earthling_parth
@earthling_parth 2 жыл бұрын
This brought out an audible chuckle out of me. Thank you sir 😆
@rv6amark
@rv6amark 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I live in Southern California and have lived through several large earthquakes. During the Northridge quake, I was far closer to the epicenter than I would have liked. Since then, I have attempted to come up with various mechanical ways to record earthquakes, but this looks like the best idea yet. I have a few spare Raspberry Pi's around here, and it appears they sell "partial kits" of parts, so I suspect I will soon use one of them in a build project. As a graduate of St. Louis University, I was proud to see you included them in this video. I, too, took "extra" classes in weather, simply because they were available, and it was back in the early 70's when Dr. Fred Bates was the head of the meteorology department. He was the original tornado chaser, using his hand held 8 and 16mm cameras of the day, proving his theory that there are far more tornadoes than what was being reported. Today, we know that was true because we have the many, many storm chasers who document it every year. Dr. Bates, and a couple of other professors at SLU, cultivated my intense interest in atmospheric weather.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
That's amazing! I only took a couple semesters, so I got some TAs, though one of them went on to go into broadcast and is a meteorologist somewhere in Tennessee now. I assume you subscribe to Pecos Hank? I love his videos, and feel like he's one of the best tornado chasers in the world today.
@tokiomitohsaka7770
@tokiomitohsaka7770 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I love learning of these sorts of projects and how they can be used to save humans.
@raspishake
@raspishake 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You can learn more about us by going to our website raspberryshake.org :)
@ricgondo
@ricgondo 2 жыл бұрын
JC, I live in Japan and... that sounds very interesting!
@mattharvey8712
@mattharvey8712 2 жыл бұрын
Wow.....bravo.....my friend lives up in mountains . He drilled a well 80 feet.....he turned it into antenna......and claimed we could listen to earth 80 miles down.....he claimed solar flares from Sun could set off quake.....what ever.....you could here the snap crackle pop sounds....cheers
@zer001
@zer001 2 жыл бұрын
2:22 Oh there is an "old" Dell Computer. lol
@Oscar_Kerkenaar
@Oscar_Kerkenaar 2 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSS I was lookiing for this for a while :)
@raspishake
@raspishake 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! We can't wait for you to join us! Let us know if you have any questions! you can go to our website raspberryshake.org or you can send a message to sales@raspberryshake.org
@Oscar_Kerkenaar
@Oscar_Kerkenaar 2 жыл бұрын
@@raspishake Thanks, I will! I'm figuring out which option is best to use in Taiwan
@1simpleAtom
@1simpleAtom 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love those outtakes 😊
@AudreyRobinel
@AudreyRobinel 2 жыл бұрын
If i had raspberry pi during my PhD, i surely would have used it! It is great how this device enables us to do a lot of data gathering easily... When i have more disposable income, i'll try to buy one too! I am in the caribbean, so earthquakes are plentiful here.
@nulious
@nulious 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the cost to drill a hole to bedrock where I live would be several orders of magnitude higher than the cost of the pi shake.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, yeah... here in St. Louis bedrock is often only a meter or two below the surface (though depends on where you are in the region). In other places, it can be a pretty deep hole!
@ralphmcmahan2139
@ralphmcmahan2139 2 жыл бұрын
My first and hopefully last earthquake was a freaking shocker. The East coast doesn't have them. When we did it was an event.
@Flyingmachines350
@Flyingmachines350 2 жыл бұрын
Great IoT example! Thank you!
@NIGHTOWL-jf9zt
@NIGHTOWL-jf9zt Жыл бұрын
I like to do audio recording at home all the time and I edit with Audacity. I live in a 2 story home with neighbors upstairs. Sometimes when I am recording, I can detect when they walk or move around. There will be a flat recording line and then what looks like the waves on a seismometer graph. If I slow the speed of the recording down, I actually hear what sound like rumbles which I think is pretty cool. I was thinking of burying a large drum in the ground and suspending a microphone from the center to see if I can detect any movement. It might not be an accurate or official way but it will show me if there was some kind of vibrations from the ground.
@suki4410
@suki4410 Жыл бұрын
Sound interesting to me. Worth listening to.
@michaellehman1549
@michaellehman1549 2 жыл бұрын
Neat that you can do that with a Raspberry Pi! I just might have to take the plunge and get one. Interesting comments about AFTAC. It was a major funder, although in secret, for a vast expansion in academic resources devoted to seismology in the late 1950s and early 1960s. The 1953 Limited Test Ban Treaty drove most nuclear testing underground due to the fallout it created, an eventuality that the Air Force saw coming and wanted to be prepared for. Fallout analysis had provided a vast amount of information of Soviet weapons. While the possibilities of doing that with seismology were considerably less, AFTAC wanted to extract everything it could. There was also considerable controversy. Proponents of a comprehensive test ban that would prohibit all testing argued that seismology was sensitive and accurate enough to enforce such a ban. The Air Force and others argued that it could not do so for testing in the kiloton and below range. Based on what I've seen, such a total ban was feasible, but the military didn't want to go there, supporting the eventual 1963 partial test ban instead, so that testing could continue underground. There is an interesting group of papers in the American Physical Society's library in the DC area that provide a good background on this controversy which I had the privilege of reviewing while doing research on my dissertation, "Nuisance to Nemesis: Nuclear Fallout and Intelligence as Secrets, Problems and Limitations on the Arms Race, 1940-1964.," which discusses the role of AFTAC, nuclear intelligence, and their strategic implications on the arms race. You can get a free copy of it at hdl.handle.net/2142/90554
@UTubeRangerBob
@UTubeRangerBob Жыл бұрын
Ex-AFTACer here, '78-'84. 'In God We Trust, All Others We Monitor!' We did much more than seismic detection. Each detection method, which we called a 'technique', had an arbitrary letter assigned to it, though quite possibly based on the order it was implemented. Seismic was 'B' technique. I know they went down to at least 'T'. I also ended up working for the Defense Nuclear Agency (DNA) as a contractor doing HE testing (simulated nukes) at WSMR and subcritical testing at NTS. One of my last assignments with DNA was running the transparency instrumentation that would prove that we didn't violate a treaty by going critical.
@mikaisfake
@mikaisfake 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting project
@darkdaegurth
@darkdaegurth Жыл бұрын
That ending made me laugh so hard lol!!!
@raygoble274
@raygoble274 2 жыл бұрын
As you talk about $10000 dollar seismographs, I'm noticing that cheap Linksys router on the shelf.
@cuty5372
@cuty5372 2 жыл бұрын
There was this crazy dude who tried to find crude oil, by dropping a steel ball of i think a (metric) ton, and looking at a seismograph. And it actually worked. Iirc he later used dynamite tho
@jbritain
@jbritain 2 жыл бұрын
My physics teacher had something pretty similar to this sitting at the back of his classroom a couple years ago that basically just monitored how much it shook. Apparently the younger students would go and jump up and down next to it and it would think there was an earthquake!
@subthousandoaks
@subthousandoaks 9 ай бұрын
Thanks
@cybguyver
@cybguyver 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Jeff!! Good morning
@MobiusSeckOne
@MobiusSeckOne 2 жыл бұрын
You know what a diy kit like this could do: analyzing disk shelves to reduce drive wear and tear.
@lurtz88
@lurtz88 2 жыл бұрын
I love how he had to cut the part when he is smiling in the middle of his "earthquake" because he couldn't stop smiling hahaha
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
It took 12 takes before I stopped smiling while delivering that line. Too much fun making a fake earthquake like they did in Star Trek :D
@waswestkan
@waswestkan Жыл бұрын
The cost beyond, needed hardware, has to limit, the growth of the network. Here in the US, many high schools science departments could afford a station.
@plica06
@plica06 2 жыл бұрын
8:18 -- Unconfirmed sighting of a Linksys router on storage rack... possibly a WRT3200ACM.
@Akiasergal94
@Akiasergal94 2 жыл бұрын
reminds me of the efforts of "folding@home", could be cool to do
@mntbighker
@mntbighker 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. Ultimately the way to flood the earth with data is to add solid state sensors to IOT devices everywhere. So fridges and coffee makers contribute to the pool. My 2 cents
@unknownhuman1000
@unknownhuman1000 2 жыл бұрын
It’s an earth pi. It listens for raspberrys
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 2 жыл бұрын
There is quite a lot of prediction that can be done from the data. When one area gets the shakes then another area has to release some pressure. There are predictable correlations based on past data.
@ottarkvindesland3778
@ottarkvindesland3778 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice with some links to the professors scripts and material on how to learn more about seismography. My shake is sitting in my house, fed with a network and some power and being on the whole a bit neglected thanks to an owner not quite in the know.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
Check the links in the description-his scripts and software are called "Computer Systems in Seismology" and it's linked from the Software page on the SLU Earthquake Center's website.
@Chuck8541
@Chuck8541 2 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff
@raspishake
@raspishake 2 жыл бұрын
🙌 Thanks! You can learn more about us by going to our website raspberryshake.org :)
@____________________________.x
@____________________________.x Жыл бұрын
I was wondering what sort of data was recoverable from MEMS sensors, could you pick up someone walking? The algorithms behind that would be interesting
@thebtm
@thebtm 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of having fun naming things, my HPE DL360p G8 is named SpaceHeater :P
@daverei1211
@daverei1211 2 жыл бұрын
I might get one, this sounds like fun :-)
@Hammersmash3dFace
@Hammersmash3dFace 2 жыл бұрын
And the next expensive thing on my list ;) But also the StationView Site is very interesting. I life on the upper rhine plane. little shakes here and there. ;)
@kilerkai
@kilerkai 2 жыл бұрын
what about an Raspberry Pi that detects Nuclear (or any other) exposions? Asking since a certain man likes to play with dangerous weapons lately.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
The Shake does that in a sense, using seismic data-but there is also a model with the 'Shake and BOOM', that can also detect infrasound for a wider range of event monitoring.
@kilerkai
@kilerkai 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling cool
@___echo___
@___echo___ 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@AndrewFrink
@AndrewFrink 2 жыл бұрын
the air force partnership mentioned due just that with seismic data. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_North_Korean_nuclear_test
@wyohman00
@wyohman00 2 жыл бұрын
Boom is the infrasound add on. The standard 1D, assuming a yield large enough can indeed detect a nuclear explosion. I worked at AFTAC for 26 years.
@bradleystannard3492
@bradleystannard3492 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, one of the first viewers to a Jeff video! WOO!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
And officially the first comment!
@varazir
@varazir 2 жыл бұрын
Have you thought of using older RPi like 2b and do cool solutions with them ?
@justanotherpxrson
@justanotherpxrson Жыл бұрын
Every Raspberry pi is even more expensive now, which sucks. I have never had one but now I am going to be waiting a lot longer haha
@40.toriqpamungkas26
@40.toriqpamungkas26 2 жыл бұрын
hello, I just found this channel and saw some of your videos, it inspires me to do something after graduating from this school, and there are things I always want to know, what is the name of the photo of the eclipse in the back? Thanks
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 2 жыл бұрын
That's a photo series I composited from the 2017 total eclipse, and I uploaded the image to my Flickr here: www.flickr.com/photos/lifeisaprayer/35885963694/in/photolist-WF7WKY-XLbLiM-XUjPJf
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