Can you put 35s with stock gears? Let's mount some Milestar Patagonias and find out.

Can you run 35s without changing the gears on a Wrangler?
Milestar Patagonia 35" Mud tires on 17 inch rims.
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Here’s the big question I have been running 33’s with the stock gears on my 2007 wrangler and never had any loss of power. It’s have a six speed manual transmission and it does well with 33’s. Now I’m going to take a chance and put some 35s on and see how it does.
I am back from the Tire place and did not notice a loss of power. The light turns green, and trough the gears I go. So far so good. The bigger test is came Saturday, a full day of trails down in Bartow. While there we asked a few fellow Jeepers how they liked their 35s and if they had stock gears.
AROUND TOWN:
No problem. It still has some pep and acceleration is acceptable. Under 45 mph and you may not even notice.
HIGHWAY DRIVING:
It gets up to seed ok, but suffers after 65. You have to downshift to go up any incline. It runs around 2500rpms in 5th on a flat surface. 6th gear will cause a gradual loss of speed.
OFFROAD DRIVING:
We took the time to wheel out at the home of Jeepin’ with Judd to put them through the final test. It went up hill good and could sling the mud out of the tread. I did a couple of recoveries and had no issues pulling someone else out. I do have a 3.5 inch lift but still had rubbing with the stock fender flares.
This was while navigating a wash out area that offered some flex testing moments.
So the answer is…
YOU CAN BUT.... be prepaired for issues. Unless your Jeep was made with 35s in mind its going to have some issues, lack of hwy speed, bogging down, no slow crawl, and sensoe issues. Im no pro but after spending over a year fixing issues I have put the 33s back on till the regear happens. The cost for me to regear and put lockers on is around 5 grand right now. If you have a Jeep that came with gears made for 35s you should be good. If it was made with 31s in mind you may have troubles. Then again you might be fine...
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[@FloridaJeepRides]

YOU CAN BUT.... be prepaired for issues. Unless your Jeep was made with 35s in mind its going to have some issues, lack of hwy speed, bogging down, no slow crawl, and sensoe issues. Im no pro but after spending over a year fixing issues I have put the 33s back on till the regear happens. The cost for me to regear and put lockers on is around 5 grand right now. If you have a Jeep that came with gears made for 35s you should be good. If it was made with 31s in mind you may have troubles. Then again you might be fine...

[@poker8193]

Gear set is between 500-700$ no where near 5 grand to re gear bud

[@batesBeckham]

@@poker8193 if you can do them yourself there are a couple gear sets for that amount. Most gear sets are almost a grand and anywhere from 1k to 1400 for a shop to install them. I just got quotes yesterday..I cant find a single shop anywhere in a 2 state radius that will install gears that you didnt buy from them. So there goes the cheap 600 to 700 dollar gear options.

[@evelyngraves9182]

Can you put 33 12.50s on it

[@oo7chicken112]

Either way thanks for video it was fun watching man 👍🏻

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Thanks.

[@michaelfluty9574]

Thank you for the informative video.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

You are welcome. Next up is looking like gears and lockers.

[@rxs3016]

Glad your Jeeps fixed. I’m hoping to install 35s my self.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I will be checking on install prices - It's not a heavy lifting type job, just precise with specialty tools.

[@MikeSmith-cy7jw]

I'm glad your Jeep is fixed sir!

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Thanks 👍 It's touch and go. Having some heat soaking going on recently.

[@nicot2436]

Started watching your videos, last night. Good stuff! You just earned a new follower. Btw: Cool videos.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Thank You - SO ready to get out and find some new places to wheel.

[@nicot2436]

@@FloridaJeepRides I’m here in FL also. Maybe one day we could go together. But I’d like to go somewhere that has at least some challenges. 😁

[@fiebre4x418]

glad is back in the game 👍

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Looks like the tierod end took a big hit and separated the joint so it will not tighten, for less then $30 a new one is on the way.

[@fiebre4x418]

@@FloridaJeepRides ok good, I will be on the trails in clermont on Saturday then to Holopow

[@FloridaJeepRides]

How wet was Holopaw?

[@fiebre4x418]

@@FloridaJeepRides it was nice and dry

[@fiebre4x418]

I sent you a picture true messenger in Facebook we when mud hunting 🤣

[@Bradrick_Larney_Sr]

Rubicon comes through with different gearing, compared to a lower model such as mine. I have an 08 wrangler X (JK) with a 6 speed manual, 3.8L. Only engine "performance" work done is a K&N cold air intake and Borla exhaust with 33x12.50-17 inch tires and only a 2.5 inch lift. Around town is OK at best with definitely loss of power (not a crazy amount) but noticeable and you'll find yourself using 6th gear on main roads at times as your RPMS are higher and speedo not reading correctly like with stock wheels. I do a lot of highway driving and 6th gear on 33s the engine tacs out at 3000rpm at "73 pmh" (really 65mph) causing me to get passed by everyone and literally their grandmother! Because I don't want to push it much more. But I found this video actually looking for advice being a first time jeep owner. And I definitely learned something here.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

The red Jeep is going under the knife soon. Looks like a small head gasket leak has set into the middle right cylinder. Here I was ready to put in 4.88s and some lockers. The 33s that we had performed like yours.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

The Jeep is fixed. The Spark plugs were pretty worn. Thanks to Jeff and Rich for getting me out and towed back.

[@Ridesaway24]

All or the one plug? Just as a mental note if I see that same situation.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

The 2 rear plugs were very very worn - the rest were fair but after replacing the wires and plugs the other errors cleared. I bought an extra crank shaft sensor to keep in the Jeep. That and changed the tie rod end at the pitman arm. I hit a post and knocked the ball joint loose.

[@HabeshaFun]

So it wasn’t the tires that caused the problems?

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Could have been- but only if you count big tires sticking out and hitting a fence post... It's been doing good for a while now. Slowly regaining trust.

[@masonjackman9703]

I have a 2009 with a 2 1/2 inch lift kit with 35s no problems with a manual transmission plenty of power everywhere interstate or in the mud On trails

[@nicot2436]

It Would have been nice if you had gotten some pics of the Jeep in the mud hole that you ran into the problem with but it looks much better with the 35s, I would just take those fenders off for now till you get the off-road style ones or just leave them off, depends on your taste. Looking forward to an update on the gears. Good luck

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Randi could not join me, so no extra cameraman. We also had dash cam problems. I took the bypass and then decided that I would try to get around the end of dry land.... Nope, the swamp was hungry.

[@nicot2436]

@@FloridaJeepRides Haha, it happens. I’ve gotten stuck in over 2ft of mud, not thinking it was actually that deep

[@todtalk3912]

My 13 rubicon jk has 410's. 2.5 33's. I can do 70 all day with a good bit to spare down the highway. Because people drive like crazies i might as well be going 10mph but im happy af with that. I love my jeep n my drive daily is mostly highway. Unfortunately i can only afford one vehicle. I might get myself a highway beater one of these days though.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Driving a Jeep to work each day is still a great way to get around.

[@omar.al2947]

Bro just I want to ask you one question! it’s All the jeep rubicon come from the agency with 4.10 gearing!? Because my jeep is rubicon 2011 automatic transmission but still now I didn’t know what’s my gears

[@robertmaxwell3548]

I have 35s on My 2004/Wrangler, removed Plastic Fenders, replace with Steel. Have some rubbing on tie rod in tight turning radius. No lift, still stock, runs Great on Freeways. 5 Speed Tranny, works Well!

[@FloridaJeepRides]

We had the same. Even the 31s on the TJ rub on full turn.

[@camaroboi13]

The extra gears on the JLU eliminates this issue. Been running 35s on my wife’s JLU sport with a 2” spacer lift for 5 years and haven’t changed a thing. I also run 37s on my gladiator on 4.5” lift, stock 3.42 gears. But it’s also a diesel so the torque helps immensely

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Eventually we will change the gears and put in lockers. For now the 35s are in the backyard.

[@JerkyTurnip]

FlordaJeepRides, have you done a video on what sound proofer you have done on your headliner? I saw it in the video and now I'm interested.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

The hard top came with that padding and I not too sure as to what it is. Looks like a self stick and cut to fit kind of a deal.

[@tmcs1968]

I've been running 35's on my 2016 JKU with 3.73 gears for 6 years. It don't have a issue towing on the highway but my top speed that I feel comfortable with is around 80 mph. I have a 4 in lift and the only issues I have is rubbing when flexing so I just pop off rear fenders before off roading.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I am ready to put hem back on. It does better off road.

[@arisamo6922]

How’s your mileage compared to when the gears were stock on them 35s ?

[@arisamo6922]

Mpg**

[@drinkingworm]

I cut my stock fenders and made them flat fenders, way cheaper. I also run 37's with a total of 4.75 inches of lift, doesn't seem like it though. Also have 4.88 yukon gears.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

That's the gears I am looking at. Probably before Judd, it also depends on Jeeper's Den.

[@gregoryvowell436]

Hey maybe 4:56 gears would work OK it wouldn't rev so high when your going down the hwy also you had said that you would like to come up to Lake City and run the forest trails, January 30th they're having a weekend trail ride , look up Rusty 411 he has information about the trail ride he just posted a new video on Utube thanks for the video was thinking about 35s for my Jeep may stay with 33s for now hope you and the family and follower's on your channel have a safe and Merry Christmas

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Merry Christmas to you as well. January and February are mostly prepping trails for Jeepin with Judd, but a trip to Osceola may fit in. We are still waiting to see what's going to happen with 2021.

[@CarnutMM]

I think the Rubicon JK’s with auto may have 3:73 gearing while the manuals have 4:11 gearing.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I do wish it was a Rubicon. It's just a Wrangler X sport.

[@theappalachianamerican2074]

I have 2018 jk and have 20x 9 and 35”. Stock gears on sport, 4 inch lift, Mine does great i can run high highway speeds. I dont have any problems, i think when ur choosing ur tire/wheel setup, try to keep as light as u can. That being said ive done alot of engine upgrades too, ide definitely get the trail dash kit so u can change ur setup in computer so the trans switches correctly with the bigger tires

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I still have the 35s on extra rims as soon as I get the gears and lockers it will be set up to run them. I sure could have had more tire today. My headlights dipped under water while driving on 441 just north of 192.

[@muhfugginjon5165]

Big difference in engine from 2007 and 2018 might help on the highway

[@williamwhite9430]

I honestly thought the guy was gonna cry at the end. I know I would have been bawling my eyes out. New 35’s and the JK breaks on the trail….. OH THE HUMANITY

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Still driving it around, but with the old 33’s. I still want to 35 spec but I’m gonna have to put gears on so that it doesn’t throw fault codes continuously.

[@sumdumguy7197]

2018 JK sport s with 35" tires 5 spd automatic, 3.6 motor and 3.21 gears, 18 mpg highway, spends a lot of time in 4th gear, Rock crawling in 4 low does just fine, mudding in 4 hi, does great, 2.5" lift and flat fenders disconnected, sometimes a back tire rubs the fender, bump stocks keep it from rubbing in front, eventually I plan on a 44 up front and looking into 4.56 gears and maybe lockers

[@FloridaJeepRides]

When I get around to it I’ll re gear and put in some lockers. For now it’s does good in 4 low.

[@Koshlawg]

Did you change your driveshaft to prevent vibration? If not, is there any vibration?

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Yes we put a new one in the front and plan to do the rear eventually. The Blue Gator has new ones in front and rear.

[@geographyinaction7814]

A Jeep owner can 'get away' with not doing the right thing, but let's get real. I see so many people saying that you don't need to regear, and that is just silly. We're not talking opinion here, we're talking simple physics, and going from a 30" to a 35" tire changes things. It will impact performance, fuel economy , and long-term reliability. One person was on KZbin saying you only need to change the gears of you're offroading and that is silly too...your highway speeds, and the way your Jeep drives will be seriously impacted. At the end of the day, you've spent thousands on rims, tires, lifts, armour, bumpers, lighting, winches, an ARB fridge and you cheap out on the gearing when you've added how many pounds to a spinning wheel? Of course it will impact things.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

For the last week and a half I have been running the old 33s, It feels like I have gottten my Jeep back. So far no check engine light, bogging down , or limp mode. For now I will leave the 33s on.

[@chipprouty5518]

Back to the Radar RT?How are the 33s holding up and performing?Thanks

[@FloridaJeepRides]

They are currently off till I get the gears changes. I like the ride and feel better with them on, but not the sluggish top end.

[@ZenGarden99]

Is it bad for the auto transmission and 4x4 system to go from 235/50/19 (oem size) to 235/55/19? I want a more comfortable tyre but i'm afraid that the bigger overall size would affect the automatic transmission and 4x4 system over time

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Bigger does put more stress on everything. Gears make a big difference though.

[@jameseroh6544]

That tire size change is probably only a 13mm change.

[@sector783]

I am running 35” MT’s on my 16’ JKU Sport - stock D 30/44 axels with no HD ball joints, gussets or sleeves. It is on a 3 inch lift with Taraflex springs and the shocks are stock. My question is, how worried should I be about the possibility of breaking something with the way it is currently set up? I know it depends on the level of trail difficulty, but In the six months I have had it, I have done some pretty moderate trails here in Utah and have had no issues. Meaning, no hardcore bouncing off rocks or anything like that. But I do often hit 4 Lo to get up moderately steep switchbacks with moderate rock gardens, but again, not crawling Rubicon trail or extreme Moab.. Am I OK continuing to do moderate wheeling with the way it is currently set up? What are some of my key limitations? Trailwise? Thanks so much! 🤙

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Well... I have had some issues and would think that it was the 35s. I have put it under some stress but not broken anything drive train related. I do plan to put some 488 gears in eventually.

[@ethangonzales3000]

@@FloridaJeepRides what issues have you had?

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Most of the gremlins have been taken care of, a lot of error codes kept coming up. The last thing was the fuel pump and filter. Gear wise, I think it needs to go down to 4.88s Even in low 1 I still have to work the clutch to slow things down to a good craw. Steve's ruts at Judd needs to be taken real slow as well as the rock piles out at Tanglewood. Soon, but for now its still running what gears were there. I want to do 4.88s and lockers.

[@mrodrig9095]

Did you use a tire carrier for your 35s or still use the stock

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Yes but I got a motor fab tire relocation bracket. I would like to replace it so the weight of the tire sits on the bumper. Or a swing gate.

[@leskobrandon538]

The 6sp manual needs 4:88's to use 6th gear

[@FloridaJeepRides]

That was the plan... First to take it to a shop and find out why all the sensors are going bad.

[@mikemcmahon6461]

It's always one thing bro

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Always, I am going to put lockers on and will change the gears - for now the 33s are on till then.

[@Patriot3665]

Will 35s rub on a wrangler (JL) with stock wheels and a 2.5” lift?

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Depends on how much flex is going on. I still have heard them rubbing with a 3.5 lift. I even cut the rear fenders down to make room. Now we need to put some even bigger tire and check them.... We are looking for an used set of 40s for a new project YJ.

[@m9katchm9]

His gears are diff since he has different axles than a literal stock Jeep.. as in “SPORT” .. I’m regearing my 2014 JKU on mud 35s

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I will be putting 4.88s in soon.

[@dirtdevil2394]

For being a 2007 that’s a pretty solid life if it has been off-road all that time. Especially being the generation that is generally not sawed after with the 3.8

[@FloridaJeepRides]

It's currently at the shop with 3.8l issues. Apparently engines are hard to find right now. I am so ready to get that one on the road again.

[@todtalk3912]

Idky people aren't smart enough to get a good scan tool. They are essential for an offroader. More so than a spare tire id rsther have a scan tool. Sell ur wheels n tires u took off n buy a good 3 to 400 dollar tool. Its not back in the day, u can bi directional scanners for that price now n thats no joke at all.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I looked at some better ones - as much as I have issues I think it might be time. Any suggestions?

[@narinecrossland8343]

What size lift do you have

[@FloridaJeepRides]

35x12.5x18 on the 2007. They are still doing well. The blue Jeep eats tires and they are 31s

[@BillyL]

You have a lift??

[@TheSimpleGamer42]

What are the stock gears? 3.73? 4.10? Interested to know. I have 4.10 gears and want to go to 35's in the future. On 33's now. I have an 04.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

3.21 Std., 4.10 Opt. (Std. on Rubicon) I have the Wrangler X so I should have 3.21. I will be going to 4.88s when I get the lockers done. Ouch , that's gonna probably be a hefty install. But it needs to be the next thing on this build.

[@Ridesaway24]

@@FloridaJeepRides 4.88 vs 4.56 with 35" tires, any thoughts? Working on the same build so this has been some very good information.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Are there 38s in the future? Check with your local 4 wheel drive place. It was hard to talk Randi into 35s so 38s or 40 are not an option for me. ... for now

[@y2kmadd]

Don't forget about the effects of altitude and mountains depending where you live. Florida is fairly flat and at sea level.

[@orangeblue789]

I have a 35's on my Wrangler Jk with manual transmission. It's fine. Doesn't make sense that I would have to change the "Stock Gears"...

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I have lost 6th gear power wise. Even in low 1 I have to clutch it too much to keep it a the right speed. Right now I would settle for a good running motor.... its in the shop.

[@michaelchadwick3497]

You just don’t understand basic physics.

[@nonayerbidnet6974]

I got away with it for a year but only because I have a manual transmission. If you have an automatic transmission, you are hosed. I have since regeared to 4/88 gears.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I lost 6th gear.... I would highly recommend that it gets re-geared. 4/88s is where I plan to go.

[@tobynoe6149]

75mph in a jk with 35" balloons is plenty fast enough. Lol

[@FloridaJeepRides]

The speed Im fine with but I would like to a a slow craw speed. I have looked into gears and lockers but cant decide on the Blue Jeep or the Red one.

[@rookbloodthirst]

Instead of cutting the fenders look into the flat ones.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I have been giving that a lot of thought. I do have extra sets in the back yard so cutting would be free. But I do like the flat ones with the tube on the edge.

[@rookbloodthirst]

@@FloridaJeepRides I believe I've also seen the ones you are talking about with a raised arch too.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I did a cut on the back ones for now. I also trimmed the inner liner to fit and used a heat gun to flatten out a portion to make it fit better. I have 2 extra sets so there's room to experiment. facebook.com/Floridajeeprides-310194372746964

[@hypebeastdad]

The bronco doesn’t do that

[@FloridaJeepRides]

It's all in the gears. I have always like the bronco from the 70s and 80s. They have done a great job in bringing the truck back on the market.

[@texasgrillchef8581]

You can on a bronco! Lol

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Yes you can. We would love to have a bronco along some day.

[@oo7chicken112]

35’s rub at a sharper turns and have no articulation. 35’s won’t fit. I’m surprised the guy entertained us going off road, as I knew he will rub.

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I tucked them under a 3.5 inch lift and still get some rubbing. The gears need to be lowered to give me some more crawling speed. Also I seldom use 6th gear anymore.

[@oo7chicken112]

Ah ok my mistake I miss heard in your video. Happy coming 4th of July from central Ontario Chinada

[@mattshafer6644]

Get proper bump stops so you stop rubbing

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I haven't thought about that. The bump stops on now came with the lift kit.

[@mattshafer6644]

@@FloridaJeepRides yeah best way to figure out and watch the tire go inside the wheel well and make sure you can get it tucked inside as far as it will go before rubbing and than when you get it to were you want it measure the distance from where the bump stop would be and to the axle were it touches and what ever it measures to that's the size you would need or way even get a size that's a inch longer than what you measured to.

[@leskobrandon538]

Rubicons come only with 4:10 gears...

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Thanks for the info, the more I build the more I see why its better to buy a Rubicon in the first place.

[@michaelchadwick3497]

Wrong.

[@MrVWwill]

Rubicon’s come with 4:10 not 3:73

[@FloridaJeepRides]

I wish mine was a Rubicon. Its just a Sport. I still need to get the gears and lockers in before Judd 2022.

[@michaelchadwick3497]

WRONG !

[@themanuel7327]

Hey nice video man! I just uploaded a video of my new wheels and tires...go check it out!

[@FloridaJeepRides]

Looks good - Jeeps are Legos for adults.