Can You SAVE Someone Who's DROWNED? -- Random Smash Ultimate Facts

[@Zauman7]

- I feel pain +Nah you dont -I main Incineroar in mini Smash +Ohh

[@Zauman7]

Now im able to say "nice" haha funny likes number

[@Zauman7]

Not anymore :(

[@Melon_0105]

Me too 😢

[@giovannytorres1681]

Does little mac have the same pain as him? I'm starting to use him a lot so I guess I count as a little mac main.

[@podiacider]

Pk: The “Calm” swimming state Charizard: OH MY GOD GET ME OUT OF HERE I AM LITERALLY DYING

[@shemky]

No replys but 200 likes

[@ronanrandomness]

@@shemky and you ruined it

[@shemky]

@@ronanrandomness cry about it

[@janreiafrica]

Kirby drowning in like 1 foot of water is still funny to me.

[@Savariable]

Makes sense kirby is canonically 8 inches tall if I am correct

[@Liggliluff]

@@Savariable I tried searching for this and found: "According to Super Smash Bros. he is 8 inches (or 20.32 centimeters) tall" This information must be false, because I have no idea why a Japanese man who can't even speak English, creating a character in Japan for a Japanese video game console, would define the character based on the English unit, and not the measurement system used in Japan (in this case metric). Now, I rechecked a Japanese source, and the official height is 20 cm, NOT 8 inches. I'll be editing the Wikipedia page right away, and done. He's 20 cm (about 7.9 inches)

[@DissedRedEngie]

@@Liggliluff I mean, pokemon has been doing that since the start, and it's not like the conversion from 8 inches and 20 cm are that different lenghts. well, 8 inches is 20.32 cm, but we round down.

[@Comic3665]

@@Liggliluff the difference between 8 inches and 7.9 inches is so small that only the perfectionists will care

[@jamessikorski4219]

Haha, short

[@De_an]

Literally the first names that came to mind was the "Teeter Taunt" or the "Sticky Spasm".

[@cometual]

I just thought of Teeter Taunt too! Hah, nice.

[@owenerickson8947]

Sticky Seizure or the Ledge Laugh were my first thoughts. I admit, that second one needs work.

[@MawileLover]

@@owenerickson8947 no it doesn’t, that second name made ME ledge laugh.

[@jharuldsmythe]

The ledge jiggle

[@xenodusk5750]

“Sticky spasm” sounds like when someone accidentally nuts

[@tiffyw92]

1:46 "Can you save him?" Aerith: "Gee, I hope not. That'd be unfair."

[@gayflower900]

She’s just salty that she got spiked by Sephiroth’s Down Aerith

[@tiffyw92]

@@gayflower900 Of all the times she shoulda rolled, she didn't. Just stood there. Maybe she had a gas leak.

[@exaceo6309]

@@tiffyw92 true, she could have also shielded since sephiroth’s Down Aerith is highly punishable. Edit: this works better if she has a good out of shield option (maybe an up b or nair)

[@tiffyw92]

@@exaceo6309 If only she had a shield option at all in their original game... unfortunately based on those mechanics, it wasn't her turn yet and Sephiroth always lands a crit. :( I don't expect another FF7 character to be added, but being a mage type, her up b would probably be similar to Robin's or Hero's. Who knows what her nair would be. Maybe she spins her staff like Palutena? That could be useful. I guess as the Mii Swordfighter, she has options, though I'm not familiar with MSF, so I couldn't say what.

[@DeadAccountdotdotdot]

The moral of the video: if someone’s drowning in a pool, there’s no point in trying to help once they go under.

[@ur_localdumblonde]

True

[@redrock733]

When it comes to swimming in smash, there’s something that I’ve always wanted to share. In Brawl, I found that if you play as Charizard and/or Lucario, and use a super mushroom at the right moment while drowning, you’ll be able to walk around as Charizard without its tail on fire and Lucario without some of its aura effects.

[@Lampent12]

I'd LOVE to see you rate/judge every characters "Curry Dance" like you did with the footsteps. The Spicy Curry animation is one of my favorites and it feels criminally overlooked.

[@shdwskully]

Let's call it Teeter Dance, like the Pokémon move

[@mjb20077]

No, Beacuse It's Not Related To Pokemon. Other Characters Can Do It.

[@g.g.6623]

You srly dont get it ._.

[@iluvchess14736]

I am very confused

[@Crowfather7]

i wanted to say that too. it makes the opponent confused like in pokemon

[@Thatboybeans]

Yes

[@doggo4078]

The teeter dance will strike fear into all Mario mains

[@gamingwithbrandon8457]

I love the fact that kirby drowns in such shallow water

[@cometual]

I know what to call the Sticky Dance! “Teeter Taunt!”

[@fiaasow]

I shall call this new Ledge "Taunt" the "Jitterbug" Since it's a bug, that causes you to jitter...

[@christiank.4794]

nah

[@aydenator27]

@@christiank.4794 then think of a BETTER name

[@mohamedbelbaali659]

I kinda like this name tbh

[@christiank.4794]

@@aydenator27 Or i don't. It has a name already :)

[@christiank.4794]

@@mohamedbelbaali659 me too

[@Smalldiab]

Maybe the special flag doesn’t work in stamina custom smash because someone who is metal and giant won’t flinch while using the special flag? Letting them get unlimited free stocks? Just a guess, love the series!

[@dynaxfan]

Fact: If Mr. Game & Watch wears a Franklin Badge, it will disappear when he uses a special move, a tilt attack, and down smash for some reason. It still works even though it doesn’t appear. Another thing I found literally right now: If you use Belay while running off the ledge at the right time, Popo slides off the ledge and goes a decent amount higher than normal. In training stage units, it goes 12.6 rather than 10.2.

[@dynaxfan]

@ThatDustyTaco yeah i literally found out about this today

[@fernandobanda5734]

Interesting. Probably some bug on the model swapping.

[@mythosinfinite6736]

Has to do with certain animations using a flag that hides items. They're more often seen on characters who already use weapons, since those weapon animations clash with the item's placement. G&W uses a lot of gimmicks and weapons, and in fact his whole model often transforms, so it doesn't surprise me that items often disappear.

[@Rasminger]

the “sticky ledge“ thing is probably because in previous games when you would run off the ledge for an edgeguard and then accidentally double jump immediatly instead of a normal ground jump

[@williamhenderson5549]

That still happens in this game... many a time have I fallen to my death due to this

[@fernandobanda5734]

How would this help any if it's so impossibly difficult to do to begin with?

[@Rasminger]

@@fernandobanda5734 i mean the mechanic overall was implemented because of it

[@fernandobanda5734]

@@Rasminger I don't think it's a mechanic as much as the physics body having a wonky threshold of floor vs not floor at the ledge. Again, it's already incredibly hard to see, there's no way it's supposed to be something players experience.

[@Liggliluff]

(11:22) If it was just a weird S-flag and stamina mode combination, it's still worth bringing up. - I think the reason is for this is that; the only way you could play stamina mode before was through Special Smash, and there was no stocks back then, so S-flag can't spawn. I guess this is an oversight they forgot to remove.

[@averagegh0st555]

I actually discovered the first “tech” on my own. My left Joy Con has the very slightest drift and when I was in training mode practicing combos and setups as Hero, I noticed that my character started shaking like crazy on the edge of the platform. Afterwards I started to notice the same thing happening with CPUs, but this time in the middle of the platform. I don’t know what causes the second version to occur so maybe you would know something about that?

[@Ozukai]

When you accidentally discovered a tech with joycon drift

[@sun5et956]

For the first time, Joycon Drift is useful.

[@Triggered_7]

Does the fire that Kirby has when you eat someone while eating the spicy curry, have a hitbox? Like if you move onto someone else will it hurt them?

[@TightSweaters4]

I love how whenever G&W shows up you know there's going to be a single frame with a 9. Someone needs to make a compilation of that.

[@narxmagee727]

I like the Wobble Waltz as a name. I mean wobbling as in the loss of balance and not the cheap thing the Ice Climbers used to take stocks in Melee.

[@FatedHandJonathon]

How does drowning interact with character states that automatically reset or end on a timer? If, for example, Pyra starts panicking, then jumps, throws out Blazing End, and then drowns, what happens to the sword? Is it the same as if she's already dead, or does it return to her?

[@redshell9205]

12:20 YOOOO IT’S MY PROFILE PICTURE!

[@KadenzJade6447]

Did you know Steve can somewhat control the trajectory of Spicy Curry flames with his head tilt mechanic This makes this passive trait actually usefully in some sense

[@andypeoples7175]

It could be fun for you to stream you investigating and testing the facts. I know you said you like writing the scripts at the same time, but I think that’d be fun

[@MaxOfFewTrades]

"Have you ever felt like some of the movement in Smash Ultimate is a little clunky? Perhaps even sticky?" No. Can't say I ever have.

[@thebestn0oobever]

Remember when meta knight loved the water in great bay? It's still not patched.

[@sun5et956]

seriously?

[@Silver_Scepter]

6:36 another thing about footstools is if you're wearing a bunny hood you seem to jump lower instead of higher. I found this out a while back and I'm not sure if it still works or not

[@da_xbox360]

drowns in the kiddy pool and goes through the ground but in real life

[@DM-of5sl]

A good name for the dance: “Wobbling”

[@oefest5252]

Ha

[@benjaminb.192]

Maybe the invincibility indicator in training mode doesn’t appear because the character doesn’t become invincible: the hurt box itself just completely disappears

[@nokklokk1946]

What happens when you use the z-axis glitch, and a spicy curry on game and watch at the same time?

[@broski7792]

The name "the sticky dance" works well for Steve, since his ledge hang animation is his crouch animation. And if you spam the default crouch button (shift) in Minecraft on PC, you get the Sticky Keys pop-up if you don't have it disabled.

[@BurningNight314]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe characters drown faster at higher %. With that, drowning can still atleast be a small threat even if jumping out resets the panicked swimming timer.

[@jellycore1316]

1:34 Sephiroth "saving" Mario made me laugh XD Thanks for the video!

[@JforJonas]

Haha thanks for the shout-out! I kinda found a setup for the teeter stutter/sticky dance which I might make a KZbin video on soon actually

[@Band24]

that sub plug was top tier. the best one ive seen so far

[@TheLobsterCopter5000]

Actually, you CAN save a fighter from drowning...or at least delay it. For whatever reason, if you hit a fighter with a windbox that sends them upwards RIGHT before they drown, they will be lifted out of the water. However, they will still be in their drowning state, and will slowly sink down through the stage, completely intangible, until they die. A good way to see this is on Tortimer Island, with Greninja's Hydro Pump and giving the opponent some percent so they get launched a decent distance by it. It may take a few attempts to get the timing right, but you can use visual cues in the victim's panicking animation to help you time the Hydro Pump.

[@the_furf_of_july4652]

“I’m hoping to have subscribers tomorrow, here’s a chart” and immediately changing the subject is just gold

[@5ashll303]

Ultimate doesn’t feel clunky to me, that would be Melee.

[@EllieMiller510]

I played it recently, and it has a sense of clunkiness that isn’t in other smash games

[@shy1157]

my only guess with the Stamina Mode, Special Smash and S-Flag thing, is it's a leftover from Smash 4, back when Stamina Mode was a Special Smash and only 1 stock, but they never fixed it when going over to Ultimate where Stamina is now a ruleset

[@DjoingDalton]

"stick it to 'em" is better than sticky dance.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Nah

[@calic0611]

no

[@devin2445]

Nah

[@Gestersmek]

I kinda wonder if the Special Flag not spawning is a bug from building off of Smash 4's code, since Stamina Mode in that game was only in Special Smash and only allowed one stock.

[@Liggliluff]

Exactly my thoughts. I was looking for someone to point this out. Likely an oversight.

[@valeriob36]

7:50 This also happens if incineror is slowed down while his oppenent isn't and if the opponent is slowed I believe you can activate the strong hit before the opponent is there (I may have mixed something up there since it's been a while so I don't remember the specifics but I know that it was something like that, also it may have been patched idk) [Edit] I have just tried it out so, if Incineror is slow, his oppenent will crash into him super fast I was only able to "hit" the strong alolan whip when going frame by frame and the opponent just goes through it, the same thing happens with the weaker version, if you fail it nothing unnormal happens. If the opponent is slow you cannot hit the early version since the opponent isn't there yet, and to hit the strong one you need to press earlier than usual, the opponent will kinda teleport forwards into the attack, if you don't press anything then Incineror gives up before his opponent crashes into him.

[@Raziel_HHL]

7:30 "another small thing" when talking about "mini smash" probably unintentional but still funny to me

[@MrBulletwood]

When playing on a custom stage, some of the CPUs have trouble recovering onto a ledge. For example, for sephiroth, sometimes he will recover over the ledge, instead of directly onto it. And for Min Min, most of the time, she will air dodge from very far away and then she will try to use her up special (In my experience). For Rob, it will use its up special as low as possible from the ledge and use all of its fuel. It will always go as low as possible, even if it doesn't have enough fuel, so it ends up killing itself

[@velvetbutterfly]

Yeah it's hard to program AI to work with random stages like that. Should try amiibo

[@MrBulletwood]

@@velvetbutterfly Definitely, I'll try some amiibo next time

[@D_YellowMadness]

Tilting the stick up also always uses the jetpack.

[@D_YellowMadness]

I've done the sticky dance when trying to gently walk off a ledge for a ledge guard. Doesn't come up often but it's probably cost me some kills.

[@deezle6961]

Mario every time a new character release trailer comes out. 1:34

[@sangkim6556]

I’d call the new taunt the “Ledge Trapped”

[@DeeGeeSeventeen]

In regards to the whole Stamina/Special Smash/S Flag thing, it may be because if a fighter were to run out of Stamina because of a flower while in the S Flag pose, the game may not know how to handle that? I'll likely test this myself and get back to you on that, though.

[@Liggliluff]

But what in normal smash with a flower?

[@WastedHog]

I'd also like to point out that "up-to-jump" is forced-active (for some reason) on more than just Ledges and Water. For example, up also makes you wall-tech-jump if you wall-tech, including times where Ulti turns your airdodge out of hitstun into a tech and decides your recovery attempt is now zooming away from the stage, thanks so much!

[@mranxiety9995]

I've played games where the CPU glitches out on platforms and I've always why? Ur a legend for answering my question

[@PenguTheKing]

For the drowning thing, try using final smashes, it cancels out special falls so maybe it works here

[@kirbykirisame1366]

My best guess on why the Special Flag doesn’t spawn in custom smash is because it’s a holdover from how the item worked in Smash 4. The Special Flag gives you +1 point or stock, depending on the mode you’re playing. In Smash 4, when stamina was only in custom smash, you could only ever have one stock. My guess is the game automatically turned the Special Flag off to prevent some game breaking issue. However, Ultimate made stamina mode a regular mode and added the ability to have multiple stocks in a stamina match. This makes the Special Flag able to work properly in a stamina match. However when playing a stamina match in custom smash, the game reverts back to Smash 4 logic where it thinks Special Flags will break the game, making them not spawn.

[@kennethkay7226]

Would it be that game breaking if Greninja and Squirtle were just immune to drowning?

[@MarcusAlder]

The mini/mega footstool jump distance reminds me of how movement specials' distances are longer/shorter. The funniest thing is going into mega mushroom mega smash or mini mushroom mini smash for stuff like ganon up/down/sideB which can go nowhere turn him into a missile.

[@rompevuevitos222]

4:00 they probably just removed the water "zone" that tells players when to enter the drowning animation or just lowered it too much After all, those kinds of things can be invisibly if they really want They just leave the water but reduce/remove the zone

[@nightmare3642]

I've got a name. It should be called the "Dance of No Balance"

[@tydresen3905]

I love your videos, man. A potential name for the sticky taunt could be the Ledge t-t-t-t-t-taunt because of the odd stutter.

[@CyanicCore]

That first piece is pretty surprising, along with the curry, in that they exist 3 years later.

[@Lucas-db2jq]

To me the weirdest Superspicy Curry animation will always be Toon Link's. He jsut spins around like maniac and yet the fire will always come out in front of him. It kinda defeats the idea that the curry fire is coming out of his mouth, I dunno. It's still funny.

[@rays.1899]

You should make a "Quick facts" video of all the facts you checked that weren't that eventful if you still have the footage laying around

[@hunterzilla9385]

0:01 *Backwards long jump charging up*

[@pedrojose5313]

4:47 i like how charizard slowly takes damage here

[@JoobyMcGee]

13:21 It was hilarious to see that demo man get shat on twice in a row

[@spectacledman]

The "Teeter Totter" is a good name for the opening tech. It's short, but it gets the point across. You're also able to say you Teeter Tottered on your opponent.

[@D_YellowMadness]

Teeter taunter.

[@taeahn6065]

Smashbox players, for the first trick, hold down forward, then mash your tilt button

[@Kyee124]

I wonder how the "sticky dance" look like with Steve

[@danielisgamer]

I think the custom smash s flag thing is because stamina mode used to be in custom smash in smash 4 and s-flags didn't spawn on stamina mode in smash 4

[@embeboso8329]

i feel like characters drowning and falling through the ground would be to stop people from getting stuck underwater because realistically, you cant just get up after drowning and hitting the ground

[@bwoeYT]

the fat Kirby with spicy curry effect is cute!

[@Liggliluff]

Special Smash should really just be part of the rules. Have a section in the rules called something like "special attributes", where you can set the size, weight, speed and such. Preferably with more steps for size, weight and speed, and if possible, allow for higher and lower values than it's currently. Add more options, like the option to disable certain actions. Melee has a mode where you could only attack and jump, with shield and special being disabled; let us have that too. No separate special smash menu option. Let us run special rules in a tournament, online, in smash down and so on.

[@FATE522]

The Sticky Dance is clearly when the kids try mom's new toy at night.

[@danyonetta5653]

The cutoff game and watch 9 never fails to make me laugh

[@tomc.5704]

Oh Nintendo There's a small glitch that doesn't affect compeitive play, doesn't affect normal play, and actually benefits casual play. That's a neat tidbit for anyone who wants to explore your stages and try it. That's not a bug. That's *_content_*

[@ldm__]

0:58 that may be because they want to prevent wave dashing or something idk

[@TeamJameWare]

Fun fact: You can make the figure in the Assist Trophy disappear for a few frames! What you'll need: - Mega Man with a Final Smash - Assist Trophy - Another character to connect the FS. Space Mega Man where the portal connects the FS but also is on the Assist Trophy. ID (Smash Shared Content) for demonstration: S2KTWYLY

[@bigfootspopcorn9025]

“I hope I have subscribers tomorrow here’s a chart” amazing

[@BanjoeCommando]

I wonder if the Special Flag being disabled in Special Smash is a leftover from Smash 4. In Ultimate, Stamina is a regular rule set just like Stock and Time, but in Smash 4, Stamina was a Special Smash option. Also, you could only have one stock in Stamina mode in Smash 4, so the Special Flag may have been disabled for that reason. Or, as someone else said, maybe it's because Metal and Giant Smash would have prevented flinching and that would have made the item too OP.

[@Liggliluff]

But everyone is metal and giant, so it's still fair... right?

[@origamiman5460]

The drowning fix on Kirby could have been when they changed how stages work with Steve's addition. The height could have slightly changed similar how to the top platform of Yoshi's was slightly lower.

[@Robbie_Haruna]

Yoshi's story?

[@vietnamgamer9490]

Stage morph at the exact same time as that time slow Pokémon can create an ultra slow game state for an extended period which is pretty wild

[@headwaste5277]

Fun fact: you can walk around with a assist trophy if you pick it up with megaman's F-Tilt. Feel free to use it in youre video.

[@tornadoslice6741]

I don't know if this is true but if you hold down the d pad you can choose your victory screen

[@fernandobanda5734]

The S-Flag not appearing in Stamina mode might be leftover code from Smash 4. Remember that Ultimate is the first time stamina can be played with stocks. They probably banned the flag from stamina in the last game and forgot to add it in now. Edit: Nevermind, I just saw it does work without Custom Smash

[@Liggliluff]

You might still be right, this custom code might check specifically for custom smash stamina mode, which would be weird, but would explain the result.

[@razorblade6219]

I think the Steve curry animation is a reference to when you are on fire in the game you want to run around and jump to deplete your hunger quickly so you can eat food and heal. But it's sounds like as strange reference but then again one of Simons victory screens is also a reference to things players did in games that weren't what you were intended to do in those situations.

[@velvetbutterfly]

How does depleting hunger help? Don't you just recover naturally when you're full?

[@razorblade6219]

@@velvetbutterfly no only initially

[@WiiMoteGodYT]

New PK Beats video, I don't need to go to school!

[@Meepmope]

Do area affect final smashes such as peach’s, and bayoneta’s stop someone from drowning temporarily? What about abra?

[@chuckthequail137]

2:07 Drinking the Sea like that... No! Somebody hide this Before the DeviantArt Freaks Sees this!

[@kingdedede7335]

Dangit i was late. Still ready for facts that will push Algebra studies out of my brain

[@tiffyw92]

How was the swim with Mario, Seph? You guys looked like you were having fun.

[@kingdedede7335]

@@tiffyw92 Pretty good. A little cold, but got used to it. Glad physics made it so there are respawn platforms.

[@Skeltty]

Going along with the alolan whip fact, I think it has also can happen when Shulk is in his speed monado art!

[@Erix963]

I'm annoyed at myself because i have known that last fact for months, but it never once crossed my mind to send it in for useless smash facts but im glad someone else did because i never wouldve remembered

[@grace4five]

In the next smash, I want better water physics, such as drowning in kiddy pools, water pokemon swimming forever, and other things like that.

[@sirrjean1553]

Sticky dance? Sticky shuffle rymes.

[@jonathanbaxter4611]

Nice work on the small change in the thumb nail

[@VinhNguyen-on3ok]

I watched all of this to see pkbeats doing trickstabs at the end lol

[@MrBulletwood]

On "Venom" if you turn your camera all the way upwards, you can see that the Sky box isn't completely filled in

[@optimisticwatermelon]

It still feels unreal to see Steve in Smash

[@supermaximglitchy1]

they didn’t “fix” the kiddypool they broke it

[@Starfloofle]

I am SO GLAD THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO GETS STUCK ON PLATFORMS IN THIS GAME I HATE THEM