Canadian 1951 Pattern Web Equipment Part II

The second part in a series looking at the Canadian 1951 Pattern Web Equipment.
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[@blueband8114]

Those pouches are so deep they are useful as a sleeping bag as well.

[@willtheww2collector742]

they are so deep i thought they were rucksacks

[@Pattern51lover]

I have these pouches and I can confirm. Also can make emergency box tent in arctic cold

[@gunnerjames1056]

As a Canadian, you know I appreciate this series very much. Great close ups, and descriptions of each item. Does your information also say that the 51' pattern was not ready and available for use in Korea? Thanks, looking forward to part three!

[@RiflemanMoore]

Indeed so, I believe the first troops with it in Korea were the Queen's Own Rifles who I believe arrived after the cease-fire.

[@gunnerjames1056]

@@RiflemanMoore I've been chasing the WWII Canadian, British, and pattern 82, for quite some time. I'm pretty much at the end of my searches as far as those interests go. Now that I'm concentrating on the 51' and 64' pattern, I'm finding this stuff without too much trouble, at reasonable prices. Most of this would have been used for peace keeping missions, and as general cold war era items. I'm on a new mission now in my searches. Should be fun!

[@DevinK]

Absolutely splendid work

[@RiflemanMoore]

Many thanks Devin!

[@MichaelR58]

Thanks for sharing, I've never seen Canadian Web equipment in this detail before, I learned something new. Overall I liked it . Atb 👍👏

[@RiflemanMoore]

Glad you liked it, more on the way soon!

[@TheLoachman]

I never saw the cross-straps wear through. They did spread the weight well enough, and did not add bulk. That was probably the only feature of this stuff that I never thought about enough to despise. We were not issued the ammunition pouches in the 1970s, but a few of us bought some from surplus shops (and continued to use one with the 64 Pattern webbing whenever we could get away with doing so). We carried rifle (FN C1A1) magazines in the purposely-designed upper and lower pockets on the combat clothing, which was an absolutely asinine concept for multiple reasons. I could never get the hook part to stay in the belt eyelets. I don't think that the loops on the quick-pull tabs served any real purpose. Gripping them with one's fingers, as you showed, would be awkward, unnatural, and unnecessary. They were probably there just because it was not worth the effort to stitch that end flat. We were issued with either the small pack ("haversack") or large pack or both, along with the L-straps, but I do not remember ever wearing them. I never saw a Canadian-issued bayonet frog with hanger hooks.

[@RiflemanMoore]

Very interesting information, thanks for sharing!

[@gunnerjames1056]

The suspenders or braces have the loop at the back. You didn't seem sure if the loop was to be one the left or not. My set came to me that way, but I'm still not sure about which is the correct side that the loop should be on.

[@RiflemanMoore]

I imagine it would be the same as with 1937 Pattern, the correct manner is shown in the fitting instructions but in service they can be seen crossed over either way.

[@AirplaneDoctor_]

Sometimes a glove was placed in the bottom of the pouches to raise the height of the C1 mags, the C2 mags fit well and could be accessed easily. The mess tins are not supposed to be nested like that, they slide together so the bottoms face out, the idea was to have a secure spot to store items, eventually rain gear was kept in them when the nylon type was adopted.

[@RiflemanMoore]

Thanks for all the info, very interesting!

[@lib556]

I was just coming here to make that comment! I wore 64 pat webbing in training and we augmented it with extra pouches. Lucky guys found US M14 pouches. I had the basic pouch as shown. I would put my leather outer cbt gloves in the bottom so my C1 mags would ride higher.

[@kevingarrett2559]

We kept rations and KFS inside the mess tins and used paper towels to stop that from rattling, as well as to wipe the grease out of the corners. The tins were eventually condemned as scratches in the aluminum held bacteria.....

[@gpaulkarcha5760]

I carried a five pound bag of rice in my mess tins. Easy to cook and good for soldiers to have a stomach full of warm rice before going a two-hour shift as a sentry.

[@gunnerjames1056]

The small pack and large pack upper buckles that attach the "L" straps are open end down on small pack, and open end up on large pack. Which is correct?

[@RiflemanMoore]

True indeed, my mistake that. The open end of the buckle should point towards the hook on the L straps.

[@gunnerjames1056]

@@RiflemanMoore Thanks Rifleman Moore!