CANON C70 VS CANON C200 | Dynamic Range, Low Light, Slow Motion Footage

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Griffin Conway

Griffin Conway

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@mondobytes
@mondobytes 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the C70 can recover so much information and it’s not recording in RAW really shows the performance of this camera. The “it sucks the C70 can’t shoot in RAW” goes out the window. The 10bit on the C70 is phenomenal and the fact that it’s much easier to edit makes it a solid option.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I went in to this assuming the c200 raw would do better in the extreme situations, but the c70 is a freaking beast. Let’s hang soon bro! Thanks for checking out the video.
@darwinmacon
@darwinmacon 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@christophermcguinness
@christophermcguinness 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed about RAW.... Honestly, I rarely shoot RAW even on commercials. My biggest complaint is SDI. If Canon does bring a C90, I sincerely hope it gets SDI. C70 DR is exceptional in the darks.
@vladimirmiladinovic3104
@vladimirmiladinovic3104 3 жыл бұрын
Why no one mentions compression, that the C70 shoots in Long GOP except at 25fps
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
@@vladimirmiladinovic3104 7:42 👍
@LeeZavitz
@LeeZavitz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tests. As a C200 owner I still love the colour on the C200. I dont know what it is but it has a vibe. But that sensor needs light. ETTR
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I agree I kind of like the green shadows. I actually tint my c70 green to make it look more like the c200.
@holdmedear
@holdmedear 3 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway do you only push green into the shadows? or how do you grade it to match the c200?
@CrisBaggins
@CrisBaggins 3 жыл бұрын
Actually... nope. ETTR does not help to get better images
@aptech9896
@aptech9896 3 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway would also like to know how exactly do you tint it green. Thank you!
@shueibdahir
@shueibdahir 8 ай бұрын
@@CrisBagginsi use ETTL most times and it does give me better images, but it actually need to have a lot of light to do it. So at: ISI 100 f2.8 1/48 The image needs to be exposed properly until the shadows are clean, I then underexpose my image until it my shadows are just about to reach the noise floor. In post i raise the shadows by +30 and the result always impressed me. Modern sensors are MUCH better at recovering shadows than highlights. I only do this when the scene is lit in a way that I need to either prioritise shadows or highlights. This way I can get both into the image
@EpicLightMedia
@EpicLightMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video!!! The C70 is a great step for canon and I think it’s going to be a very popular camera.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! Thanks a lot. I’m a fan of your channel by the way. Great stuff on there!
@LearnLightAndSoundSessions
@LearnLightAndSoundSessions 3 жыл бұрын
Griffin - your camera comparisons are reviews are some of my favorites - really practical, useful info.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Curtis! The feelings are mutual for all the audio and lighting reviews that I watch yours are my favorite
@thefilmpoets
@thefilmpoets 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pumped for the r5 comparison!
@maxihome7243
@maxihome7243 3 жыл бұрын
Canon C200 with its RAW video directly to the card is the most ideal camera for movies!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
C200 raw is great if you can handle the workflow!
@VirtuousVow
@VirtuousVow 3 жыл бұрын
The one video we’ve been waiting for... Let me get the popcorn 😎🍿
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks for watching!!
@EugeneMaynard
@EugeneMaynard 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! You and Carlos together have given me a wealth of valuable info in making my decision to finally buy the C70. I am almost there!😁🙏🏾
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Glad you find value here!
@ronin7entertainment884
@ronin7entertainment884 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual brother. We have a 200 and we’re thinking about the 70 right now. This video was really helpful. We appreciate you.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad I could help! Hit me up with any questions
@Sutterjack
@Sutterjack 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - thanks for the exhaustive side by side examples. I really wonder if Canon is going to come out with the C200 Mark 2 or if it was just a bunch of hype. Two things that really bug me on the C70 - no EVF and bad hinge on the display. Still waiting on my choice to upgrade to 4k from my old C100 Mark 2.
@WiseMindFilms
@WiseMindFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Damn your channel just randomly popped up. Great breakdown really enjoyed learning the difference of these 2 cameras
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked jt
@itsjantore
@itsjantore 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. The file size of RAW is also the main reason I'm swapping my C200 for FX6. I've loved the camera, but with better alternatives, theres no reason to stick around anymore.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of great options out there!
@MichaelJohnsonProductions
@MichaelJohnsonProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Great video just purchased the C70 and been using it for a lot of professional work. Love it
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome Michael! Hit me up with any questions you have!
@Mike0193Azul
@Mike0193Azul 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison! Looking forward to more C70 videos
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kuau714
@kuau714 3 жыл бұрын
C200 user also and working with Canon Cinema Raw Light works very well in Resolve. No issues what so ever except the larger files sizes.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I agree resolve is way more optimized than premiere for cinema raw light. Unfortunately my editing team I work with is all in premiere so no switching for me
@TylerEdwards
@TylerEdwards 3 жыл бұрын
11:40 so much truth dude!! Great video as always brother!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
You know it bro! Thanks Tyler!
@martinparzenfilm3498
@martinparzenfilm3498 3 жыл бұрын
Good comparison .but compare raw code and a 10 Bit Codec in terms of noise is a Bit unequal because raw does no noise reduction internally, it’s raw image. But c70 seems pretty good camera for a lot of wedding filmmakers and stuff.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I understand it is not a “apples to apples” comparison, but I mentioned that I didn’t do any noise reduction and it would perform better with some noise reduction. That said, it is insanely slow to apply noise reduction in premiere and these comparisons already become pretty big projects so for the sake of time I was unable to do it.
@KygenPatriot
@KygenPatriot 3 жыл бұрын
I love you videos man. Always crushing it💯.. Now I'm waiting for C70 vs 1DX mark iii. Please.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
That one is coming up for sure! Appreciate the kind words 🙌
@holdmedear
@holdmedear 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please!
@19NineteenProductions
@19NineteenProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Although the dynamic range and sharpness of the c70 looks is better its just something about the look of the c200 and they way it renders color that I prefer. The c70 gives me dslr vibes but still a great camera.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Both are great options for sure!
@RobRanney
@RobRanney 3 жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel today. Wonderful videos. I'm a C200 owner and looking at the C70 (hoping the C90 may have an SDI among other tiny wishes). Great review, subscribed!
@myvideoguy
@myvideoguy 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell by the likes how helpful this video was over a lot of other C70 videos. Cheers mate, real world feel to this. Much more worthwhile than a full time KZbinr / Reviewer opinion.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Really appreciate the kind words 🙌
@vinyleyezz
@vinyleyezz 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent info dude! Great video! The C70 is definitely going to be my next camera!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
C70 is such a great camera!
@DuffTV
@DuffTV 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really struggling with the form factor of the C70. On my very first C70 shoot last weekend it was a live stream of a half marathon and I was shooting interviews with the race winners and going live to vMix. The LCD in the C70 is not great and I missed the EVF and lack of SDI to run our wireless transmitter. It was like OMG this is just the wrong camera to use in this situation. I'm in a spin here on what to do but just might send it back and swap for a C200. We also run Canon Xf605 cameras, so for much of what we do the c200 might be a better fit for our workflow. Same batteries, similar menu set up, EVF and SDI. I really don't do high end work with big client demands so maybe the 4k 8 bit from the c200 will be fine. But for me it's the form factor. The lack of SDI and EVF are things I can't do without. Yes you can mount EVFs and larger LCD screens and a cage to the C70 but for me it's just all clumsy and I hate it. Thanks again Griffin I really enjoy your videos
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! I prefer the c200 form factor most of the time as well. Although, I really love my c70 once it is rigged up. Feel free to check out my "C70 Rig" video. I show the different setups for different use cases.
@Phonothek
@Phonothek 3 жыл бұрын
hello! well, most c200 shots were out of focus. why uploading this comparison? not very fair and professional imho anyway thumbs up and good content, cheers
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Both were on the same autofocus settings. As mentioned to another commenter, these tests take a very long time and they are funded 100% by me personally. They are put up on the internet for anyone to watch completely for free. The results show what each camera is capable of, and it is not biased for one or the other. If you find that one was slightly out of focus, feel free to ignore the image from a sharpness perspective, but that doesn’t change things like out of camera color, noise structure, or dynamic range.
@JRidgely
@JRidgely 3 жыл бұрын
Always find these reviews interesting. Great sensor on the C70 but at the end of the day I’m going to focus on bettering my story telling not my gear.
@TazawaTanks
@TazawaTanks 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I’m looking forward to the R5/1DX/C70 comparison.
@patrickchase5614
@patrickchase5614 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the differences in high-ISO performance reflect the different gain architectures of the two cameras. The C200 uses conventional preamps, with a limited selection of physically realizable analog gains. The sensor behaves optimally when shooting at ISOs corresponding to those gains (400 and perhaps somewhere around 1600?), but shows increased noise when operating in between, because it has to use a lower-than-ideal analog gain and then scale digitally. The C70 has dual simultaneous gains, meaning that it applies both low- and high-gains to every sample, and then combines the resulting values. Light tones can use the results of the low gain if they would have saturated at the high gain, while shadows always benefit from the high gain. You would expect such a camera to have an advantage at low/mid ISOs as you saw, because at ultra-high ISO both cameras are basically using their highest gain for every sample (put another way, even the brightest scene tones are so dark that the C70 can use its high gain without saturating) and in that scenario the C70's dual-gain architecture doesn't give it any advantage.
@scottievee7467
@scottievee7467 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I needed to hear that. Got a C70 coming.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure you will love it! It’s a great camera
@theampedlife
@theampedlife 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison thanks. I’m convinced that my C200 is just fine for a while to come. RAW will become increasingly manageable and storage cheaper. Can’t imagine letting go of RAW, EVF, SDI and overall form factor. I’ll say a prayer for Canon giving us 4K 10 bit external on the C200 for XMas.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
C200 is still a great camera! Thanks for watching!
@StevenFreitag
@StevenFreitag 3 жыл бұрын
That 4K 10 bit external will never happen 🥴
@theampedlife
@theampedlife 3 жыл бұрын
@@StevenFreitag yeah I’m with you on that one. But maybe ... the thought makes me happy for now 😉 Perhaps when 12 bit becomes the standard Canon will throw us a bone.
@KevKlopper
@KevKlopper 3 жыл бұрын
@@theampedlife the only bone canon will throw at you is one at your head if you don't buy their new cameras. Canon is the most ruthless company when it comes to product separation.
@Batubacaksizzz
@Batubacaksizzz 3 жыл бұрын
quick, to-the-point and quality comparison. thanks for the content. subscribed!
@CollingFilms
@CollingFilms 3 жыл бұрын
great comparison Griffin! solid work as always
@AndrewMurphyFilms
@AndrewMurphyFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Dude this is a wicked comparison. Great comparisons and basically the same as my thoughts. C200 is amazing, but the RAW was a killer with no compression ratios.
@martinmeyerbiz
@martinmeyerbiz 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, you got me subscribed! Thanks a lot for this down to earth in-depth review. Greetings from Switzerland from a C300 MkI owner who just switched from the 5D MkII =) Man, started to love the Canon C series!
@mitchmedmedia5386
@mitchmedmedia5386 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh Griffin got some hands 👊 Great info as always
@RobertRedfield2
@RobertRedfield2 3 жыл бұрын
Solid review and comparison. Your conclusions are much appreciated.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thanks Robert!
@darrylsmith3102
@darrylsmith3102 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any particular reason why all the shots from the C 200 look soft and/or out of focus?...
@itsjantore
@itsjantore 3 жыл бұрын
He probably just missed focus.
@darrylsmith3102
@darrylsmith3102 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsjantore He better hope! so.
@PhilipHo986a
@PhilipHo986a 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Griffen can you comment on the sharpness of the c70's image? I noticed - especially from the high iso comparison - that the c70 was noticeably sharper than the c200. Perhaps there was some sort of in-camera sharpening? Or maybe the sensor's really that good at capturing detail. Great comparison btw!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
The c70 appears sharper to me than c200. That said, I never test sharpness because I don’t think a “sharp” image makes for a good image. In fact, I usually use softening filters. It gives it a more organic look.
@patresinger
@patresinger 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Griffin, love your videos, so wonderful to follow your thoughts and honest views on the gear! Thanks for doing such informative content.
@FrontmanMedia
@FrontmanMedia 3 жыл бұрын
2:43 I'm glad to hear someone else mention the greener look on the C200. I've also been shooting with the C200 for a couple years, and when comparing to my C100 Mk2, I definitely noticed the C200 leans a little greener. I always thought it was interesting that Canon did this with the C200. It's not a bad thing necessarily, as I really like the look of the C200, but it's definitely interesting Canon did that.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I actually kind of like it
@christophermcguinness
@christophermcguinness 3 жыл бұрын
The C70 DR is excellent and 1600 ISO is really fantastic. I really never ago above that, but having the speed booster with the .71x adapter with such a clean 1600 ISO will be really nice for slow motion macro work! Like many others, SDI would be my number one wish for this camera. Thank you for taking the time to make this video Griffin.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. Sdi is the one main disappointment, but there are ways around it with a monitor that can cross convert the signal for example. Thanks for watching Christopher!
@christophermcguinness
@christophermcguinness 3 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway Ageed, I have monitors that can do that... but having the second port and having it be SDI would just make me feel good! ;-)
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
@@christophermcguinness totally agree!
@JoshSmith-ct3fi
@JoshSmith-ct3fi Жыл бұрын
@@christophermcguinness what monitors can do that?
@papermelon
@papermelon Жыл бұрын
Hey man! Amazing comparison, helped a ton. If you wouldn’t mind weighing in for me, how do you feel like these two now compare for their current market value? I’m seeing the C200 around used for ~$2,500 with the C70 around $6,500. I’ve just starting looking so I don’t know what the c70 originally ran for, but that’s a massive price difference. My biggest concern about the C200 is primarily longevity when purchasing in 2023. How do you personally weigh their worth and which do you recommend I make the massive upgrade to?
@chrisshent
@chrisshent 3 жыл бұрын
Love your insights, they're refreshing thoughts you don't get to hear on other channels. Thank you!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Christopher! Really appreciate the kind words 🙌
@MeridianMedia
@MeridianMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tests and objectivity. Thank you!
@KleberEleven
@KleberEleven 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison bro! I've bought my C200 after watching your review and now the C70 in on my wish list haha...
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I still love the c200. The c70 is great as well. Hope you and the family are doing well bro!
@KleberEleven
@KleberEleven 3 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway thank you brother! Happy Holidays!
@gonzalezmediaproductions4340
@gonzalezmediaproductions4340 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for comparing them! I want both!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome they are both great options!
@JosephPaul4real
@JosephPaul4real 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful video. I'm trying to decide whether to buy a C70, a Sony CX6, or a RED Komodo.
@henrikedelbo1171
@henrikedelbo1171 3 жыл бұрын
If you set the noise reduction on the C70 to spacial:1 and frame correlation:1 you can get away with higher ISOs. You get no plasticky softness. The same applies to the C500.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I tried a few different settings with the noise reduction and found it to have some frame ghosting
@AlanChunkyMunky
@AlanChunkyMunky Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Looking to get my first cinema camera and with the recent price cut on the c200, I need more in-depth insight as compared to the c70 (which is the one I’m leaning towards currently). Part of me is wondering if I should wait and see if they update the c200 this year but not sure. Also, yo yo cool to see creators coming out of OC!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway Жыл бұрын
I think I might re do this test for 2023. Any specific questions you have or things you would be looking for?
@DanielTihonov
@DanielTihonov 6 ай бұрын
Great review! Thank you! :) Considerin to buy the C70 in 2024 haha. What lens did you use at the high iso test at night?
@seken2nun
@seken2nun 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff bro 👍🏾👍🏾
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Teddy!
@PDU_Tutorials
@PDU_Tutorials 2 жыл бұрын
At 2:46 you said all the settings were exactly the same. Did you shoot in XFAVC and which Log Profile did you use?
@CalebWojcik
@CalebWojcik 3 жыл бұрын
5:01 - I definitely see the same things in my tests. Even when recording in 8-bit on the C200. The shadows in the Canon Raw Light files are always really noisy because there is no noise reduction done in camera and I don't want to have to do that in post on export.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. A few people complained I didn’t do noise reduction in my test. However, I find that it takes forever and really slows down my workflow, so I tend to just shoot lower ISO’s and light the scene for proper exposure with the c200
@myJTP
@myJTP 3 жыл бұрын
12:05 you can run up to 200 feet with Fiber Optic HDMI "Available in a maximum length of 200 feet, fiber optic HDMI surpasses the distance limit of even some baluns, let alone the 65 foot limit of copper HDMI."
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
This is not what is usually done on professional sets for a number of reasons. In our particular use case, hdmi introduces more latency than sdi which causes problems for our multi cam switcher. Additionally, c200 can’t output a lut over hdmi, and it is not a locking connection either.
@OpenDGuitar
@OpenDGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
Planning for this camera, but likely just going to use Ed adapter and not the crazy expensive RF lens. We have lots of EF glass.
@exposure3805
@exposure3805 3 жыл бұрын
really looking forward to the C70 speed booster review
@salmorreale7900
@salmorreale7900 2 жыл бұрын
IMHO the C200 has more of that traditional film look which is my preference the C70 is a bit to wedding video for me. Both excellent cameras. Thank you for posting.
@be_bigger_today
@be_bigger_today 3 жыл бұрын
You rock Griffin!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@paulbeckmann
@paulbeckmann 3 жыл бұрын
Great test! Thanks for the great job!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul!
@StevenFreitag
@StevenFreitag 3 жыл бұрын
“C200 is still a great camera” is the overarching theme in the comments 💪🏼
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ben_grubb
@ben_grubb 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! I’ve been going back and forth on whether to sell my recently bought C200 and get a C70. This was a really useful side-by-side but I’m still not 100% sure what to do.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben, glad you enjoyed it. The best option is if you can rent each one and shoot for a few days. Both are great options though!
@ben_grubb
@ben_grubb 3 жыл бұрын
I have used the C70 a few times. Not side by side with a C200 though. I do like how you can build the C200 out more. That 4K 120fps is a real draw though. I think my ideal scenario would be C70 internals in a C200 body.
@brendonleerogers1794
@brendonleerogers1794 3 жыл бұрын
Great in depth review! Keep seeing c 70 videos and it’s making me lean more to it over the fx6 but still having a hard time deciding 🥴
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
You can’t go wrong with either...but for me, I’m team canon all the way lol
@SamAxtell
@SamAxtell 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed you used a shotgun mic on top of the c70 and I’d love to know what you used to do that and how good the audio quality is when plugged directly into the camera and not to an external recorder. That would make a shotgun mic very versatile to use because you won’t have to buy another on-camera mic. Thank you!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I use the nTG 3. The c70 pre amps are very good. I would reccomend a shorter shotgun mic though like the ntg5
@SamAxtell
@SamAxtell 3 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway Nice, that's my dream setup!
@DennisSchmitz
@DennisSchmitz 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like the C70 has quite a huge amount of spatial noise reduction, is there a way to turn it off or lower at least? Would still be much cleaner since the C70 DGO sensor can simply capture more information in the shadows.
@DennisSchmitz
@DennisSchmitz 3 жыл бұрын
Liking the overexposed C70 way more, the roll-off is much smoother.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I agree on the highlight roll off. I left the c70 on it’s default settings for noise reduction
@DennisSchmitz
@DennisSchmitz 3 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway so you can lower it? That would be great, since apart from the strong NR the image seems to look quite great.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
@@DennisSchmitz I’m unsure. I haven’t tested this or checked yet. I’ll try to take a look later
@DennisSchmitz
@DennisSchmitz 3 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway thx a lot!
@chimpster37
@chimpster37 3 жыл бұрын
Way more banding in the highlights on the C200, at least on KZbin
@videosforthepeople9130
@videosforthepeople9130 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review @Cliff Conway. Did you do a black balance on the c200? May have helped with the noise in the black. c70 won most tests, but the c200 crushed it on the recovery from overexposed - look at the sky color, more information retained..
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I black balanced at the beginning of the day. I have owned both for a while and can tell you they aren’t even close in terms of noise, the c70 is much much cleaner
@cristianmihai4818
@cristianmihai4818 2 жыл бұрын
c200 is not a run and gun camera in my opinion. When we use the 8bit we use light, setup etc....RAW is used for commercials..which last...how long? 20 seconds, 30...one minute....For me run and gun work is not interesting because is not paid accordingly and for the interviews and lighting setup the 8 bit codec is enough and if in need of 10bit you can get it at 1080 from the sdi port. Had the C70 and sold it. To much red, pink possible from the speedbooster. lcd problem, dgo senzor is active only up to 60p, AF is NOT great , actually i was dissapointed. For 2000 euros C200 rules. Sold the C70 and bought 2 pcs of C200. One for gimbal, steadicam setup and one for handheld, shoulder, tripod setup. At one point when a c300m3 will be cheaper will add one. Invest in light, lenses and skills. Cameras are like people...they look nice but often leave you dissapointed
@ВячеславРакитин-ю6ю
@ВячеславРакитин-ю6ю 9 ай бұрын
god damn bro!!!! great comment!!! you soooo right!!!!in my opinion c200 cam for people who loves post-production moments and that reason c200 great cam!
@lb7144
@lb7144 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you so very much! Did you every shoot externally with the C200 in to an Atomos or other similar external monitor? I have used my C100 MKII with an external Shogun Inferno recording ProRes (fake 4.2.2.) 8 bit. I’m thinking about getting a C70 but I’m still interested in the C200. I’m not top notch like you and some of the others commenting. I’m just a lil old ,novice, grandpa who has found some really nice cheap cinema cameras. I’m going to stick them in the faces of my family for all of our events and Sunday School review video content. Thanks again - I also use a Ninja Blade
@ernesto_guevara_che
@ernesto_guevara_che 3 жыл бұрын
highlihgt recovery is clearly far better on c200, and in shadows its clear it has more details, some noise reduction would actually make it almost the same with c70. also. pls use davinci resolve fot anything conserning color information and DR.
@BenEricson
@BenEricson 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. There is tons of color information in the sky.
@videosuperhighway7655
@videosuperhighway7655 Ай бұрын
Or buy lights and do image acquisition like a professional lol. Oh, both outperform film stock :)
@pablomarin1746
@pablomarin1746 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and this channel very great info for us.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being here Pablo! I appreciate you watching!
@metreweli
@metreweli 3 жыл бұрын
Good job, thanks. Waiting for speed booster review.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished it. Uploading on Monday 👍
@GDoggProductions
@GDoggProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this detailed video 😁
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@IsaacAbunu
@IsaacAbunu 3 жыл бұрын
I thought your where doing a 1dx mark iii and c70 comparison.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
It’s in the works!
@qelapafu
@qelapafu 3 жыл бұрын
That full boar RAW only for C200 was the only thing that held me back from getting it. Though if they offered 422 out to record to a Ninja, it might have been workable
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Ya I wish it had the 4k 10 bit compressed codec...but its still a beast!
@frasermacmannis614
@frasermacmannis614 3 жыл бұрын
Solid review! Looks like it should pair well with the c500
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Heck ya! Thanks for checking the video out Fraser!
@ohmyguard99
@ohmyguard99 3 жыл бұрын
Way to work that heavy bag!!!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thank you!
@glenngulia5409
@glenngulia5409 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very helpful. Thanks.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Glenn!
@MattAitia
@MattAitia 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison Griffin! C200 owner and stoked on it. Happy holidays and happy new year!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
C200 is still an amazing camera. Thanks, and happy holidays to you as well!
@itsRonDavis
@itsRonDavis 3 жыл бұрын
more excellent content. thank you, Griffin!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Ron! Glad you enjoy it!
@DRACOFURY
@DRACOFURY 3 жыл бұрын
1:40 very smooth bag work tho👊🏿
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@samebloke
@samebloke 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. Can you tell me if you were using the speed booster on the c70 for the low light or RF lenses?
@BarefootMediaTV
@BarefootMediaTV 3 жыл бұрын
great little camera for a production company. Especially getting 2-3 of these for cheap cinema cameras and doing corporate work. I wouldnt get the c70 since there is no raw but def could see production companies saving money from getting a bunch of c300 miii
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. That’s my exact use case for it. I bought one and considering adding a second because I like it a lot
@Trendsetic
@Trendsetic Жыл бұрын
Great comparison review.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway Жыл бұрын
Thanks!Glad you enjoyed it
@nuclear64_
@nuclear64_ 3 жыл бұрын
Hello great video. Did you use the same lens for each camera? Or did the C70 have an RF and the C200 have an EF? It seems as if you used RF for one and EF for the other. Thanks Cheers from LA! Frank
@shootermcgavin4999
@shootermcgavin4999 Жыл бұрын
I just got 2 C200s for $2000 each new. My first Cinema cameras. Do I need a Cinema camera? Probably not....but I couldn't resist giving it a try at that price.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway Жыл бұрын
Congrats! I still love the c200 we use four of them in our studios. Nonstop use for 5 years and not a single problem!
@DopTikhonov
@DopTikhonov 3 жыл бұрын
Your out of focus footage from c200 makes me feel that is not accident. Looks like you trying to make c70 much better than c200. And didnt notice that in over exposure test shadows in c200 looking better. Paid review?)
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂 I wish it was paid. That would make it easier for me, but unfortunately I’m the one spending my own hard earned money to buy these cameras and put a lot of hours testing and editing these reviews so people can view them on the internet completely for free. You might not have noticed, but I was actually the subject in all of the test footage. Usually I have my fiancé help me but she was out of town so I had to be both the camera operator and test subject. You won’t always get perfect focus if you can’t see the screen because you’re in front of the camera.
@DopTikhonov
@DopTikhonov 3 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway I like your reviews! But here as c200 owner i feel that camera work better than in your tests. So that why i joking about paid review) Of course c70 awesome camera with new sensor. Hope c200 mark 2 will be mix of both.
@Metamorpheu
@Metamorpheu 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Griffin :)
@Elijahg1991
@Elijahg1991 3 жыл бұрын
It would be great if you made a video about dynamic range i am having a problem with finding a video that breaks it down well
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll keep that in mind!
@rickymaxx
@rickymaxx 2 жыл бұрын
the lines on your shirt trigger my OCC... LOL..
@gappo1301
@gappo1301 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your in-depth review. I’m in a such dilemma - I’ve got eos R with two rf lenses and want to buy either c70 or c200 as my first cinema camera. C70 costs here in the uk £4,800, c200 (also brand new) - £3,800. I’m still planning to keep eos R as a b-cam for now. I know that the logical thing is to go for c70 due to rf mount, but I’m gravitating towards c200 plus some good 24-70 sigma or canon lens. Albeit I’ll have two rf lenses 15-35 2.8 and 24-105 4 without much of a use. Really struggling here...
@YuriiRay
@YuriiRay 3 жыл бұрын
Go for c200. Color from C70 sucks
@KeithCreative
@KeithCreative 3 жыл бұрын
That c70 is 💪🏾. Great Job. Was that you boxing?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
C70 is a beast! Yep that was me haha.
@The3cycle
@The3cycle Ай бұрын
As far as price points that would make a c200 worth it over a c70 in 2024, would you spring for a c200 at $1700? thanks for the work you put into this
@lb7144
@lb7144 20 күн бұрын
I plan too. The C70 is still double the C200 in 2024 on the used market. I’d rather have the full size XLR ports but the C70 is a nice cinema camera. My money isn’t that long so I’m going for the C200 to match up with my C100 MKII.
@The3cycle
@The3cycle 19 күн бұрын
@@lb7144 I ended up going for the 200 also. No regrets so far
@MrMacroJesseSky
@MrMacroJesseSky 3 жыл бұрын
In case I missed this, Is the c70 using noise reduction as opposed to the c200?
@JoshSmith-ct3fi
@JoshSmith-ct3fi Жыл бұрын
What codec do u mainly use in your studios on c200 ? What codecs on c200 do u mainly use for clients ?
@keylightfilmsYT
@keylightfilmsYT 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Was the C200 footage only shot in raw for this comparison due to 8-bit limitation (aside from 120p tests)? I'm very curious as to the EF lens performance on the 0.71x adapter.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Everything from the c200 was in raw except for 120p which was 8 bit because that’s all that’s available. I will for sure be testing the speed booster soon
@delaniegiandomenico8930
@delaniegiandomenico8930 3 жыл бұрын
Great video babe!!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Babe! We need you to be the test subject for the next one ❤️
@laurencechase5439
@laurencechase5439 3 жыл бұрын
Just wish they put an SDI on the c70. You can convert it but you introduce delay which isn't ideal.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Totally agree
@benjamin.kelley
@benjamin.kelley 3 жыл бұрын
Only 4.9K subs. So underrated.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DTUFINOPhotography
@DTUFINOPhotography Жыл бұрын
Is the autofocus better on the C200 or the C70?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway Жыл бұрын
C70 is way better IMO. I owned both. C70 has had multiple improvements since this video came out
@DTUFINOPhotography
@DTUFINOPhotography Жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway Yeah that's what i've thought! Might have to finance one. lol
@AndGuz16
@AndGuz16 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome sauce. Thank you!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andres!
@IndiCros
@IndiCros 3 жыл бұрын
6:32 It was focusing on the wall, lol
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I was shooting by myself
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