Canon EOS R vs Sony a7 III Review: Full-frame mirrorless camera comparison!

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Tony & Chelsea Northrup

Tony & Chelsea Northrup

Күн бұрын

Win a Canon EOS R at freesdp.com
We review the Sony a7 III (sdp.io/a73) vs the Canon EOS R (sdp.io/r). We discuss the design differences, the controls (buttons, dials), card slots (1 vs 2), battery life (and USB charging), native lenses, adapted Canon EF lenses, image quality (including dynamic range and banding), lens and sensor image stabilization, autofocus for stills and video, EYE AF, silent shooting, frames per second, and video quality. Finally I recommend one camera over the other for casual shooters, sports shooters, photographers who own lots of Canon lenses, wedding photographers, vloggers, and videographers.

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@jasonhull5712
@jasonhull5712 5 жыл бұрын
Well Sony.. I hope you learned something from this.... GIVE US A DAM FLIP SCREEN !!! Lol... 🤣
@MadsThomsen
@MadsThomsen 5 жыл бұрын
I have the a7Rii and not one single time did I miss a flip screen. But that's probably because I would never film myself. Also, I always use the finder. Never the screen. Maybe just a habit from the very early days.
@zjtkk08
@zjtkk08 5 жыл бұрын
Sony doesn’t have a flip screen because Canon has a exclusive patent that prevents any other brand from having the same screen. That’s why every other brand tilits
@jakobroider6014
@jakobroider6014 4 жыл бұрын
@@zjtkk08 for example the panasonic gh5s has a flip screen
@awaraa
@awaraa 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakobroider6014 in full frame! even panasonic full frame had to find a work around for flip screen
@GeorgeXian
@GeorgeXian 4 жыл бұрын
@@awaraa S1H can flip the screen outwards like Canon also and flip upwards, which differs from the S1 which flips the screen inwards and upwards. Makes sense because the latter is a better for photography e.g. portrait low angle shots. They worked around the patent (if there is one) by using two hinges instead of one hinge and a single articulating mechanism. I actually like the S1H one better because you can still angle the screen inline with the lens.
@conkview1795
@conkview1795 6 жыл бұрын
I realized you had the Sony R on the table at the end, was that because thats all you had? I know they are practically the same body. But great review! Sony is dominating the mirrorless game. Cant wait to get mine!
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I might have just used it for demonstration
@admiralking
@admiralking 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. I love that you make recommendations at the end based on usage.
@sekharbabuneelam943
@sekharbabuneelam943 5 жыл бұрын
They way you explain the difference beter en these two camera is good. The points you selectie to compare is good. Keep do more comparisions between other camera also
@doyoulikejazz9516
@doyoulikejazz9516 5 жыл бұрын
„There is no clear winner“ *WANT TO WIN AN EOS R??*
@americanpatriot8426
@americanpatriot8426 5 жыл бұрын
doyoulikejazz best comment. Nobody wants that canon shit
@ZionSmiley
@ZionSmiley 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same thought we already know whos the winner HAHAHA
@davideskerlot2945
@davideskerlot2945 5 жыл бұрын
Usually products with less quality would be the ones they give away freely 😏😏😏
@a55tech
@a55tech 5 жыл бұрын
winner will be a7 iv, hold out till 2020
@ikisfilm1994
@ikisfilm1994 4 жыл бұрын
nop
@mallred4347
@mallred4347 6 жыл бұрын
Here's a summary of the testing: Individual Test Winner Focusing Sony IBIS Sony Card Slots Sony Frame Rate Sony Video Sony Auto Focus Sony Dynamic Range Sony Joystick Sony Lenses Sony Flippy Screen Canon Best Trip to Maui Canon* Overall Conclusion = Tie Hmm, I'm not sure what to make of the test nor the conclusion...
@rlemburg
@rlemburg 6 жыл бұрын
M Allred I think we all know what to make of it
@stratnellz
@stratnellz 6 жыл бұрын
Best lenses Sony?! Ha said no one...
@AcidicDelusion
@AcidicDelusion 6 жыл бұрын
Look at those sony colours. They are disgusting.
@wenc8796
@wenc8796 6 жыл бұрын
Sony actually has the best color reproduction. www.pdnonline.com/gear/cameras/the-best-cameras-for-color-reproduction-ranked/
@AcidicDelusion
@AcidicDelusion 6 жыл бұрын
@ did big Tony not just demonstrate that the Canon lens stabilisation is better than the Sony ibis
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
NOTE: We did all our testing on the Sony a7 III. I used the Sony a7R III just to demonstrate the physical controls, because we had to return the a7 III, and the Sony a7R III is physically identical. Win a Canon EOS R at freesdp.com Buy the Sony a7 III (sdp.io/a73) or the Canon EOS R (sdp.io/r)
@SamStormbornOrmandy
@SamStormbornOrmandy 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, any idea when Canon might bring out a mirrorless version of the EOS 5DS or 5DSr?
@damaster692
@damaster692 6 жыл бұрын
@SwitchRich 30mp should look a but sharper than 24 , disadvantage is less shadow performance, most photagraphers will never Crop to a point where you need to crop to make the Canon look better.in other words a 1:1 image on a 4k tv will look the same,
@WLVFX
@WLVFX 6 жыл бұрын
Why don't people get an external monitor, if filming yourself is important? Won't that benefit people wanting to film 4K with a Sony and without a crop.
@bamboojled8919
@bamboojled8919 6 жыл бұрын
Did I miss were Tony mentions the 1.8x crop at 4K with the Canon R? He keeps saying that it is a great vlogging camera, but doesn’t mention that the 24-105 lens will be more like 50-180 cause of the crop factor. Those vloggers are going to need really long arms!!!
@joeeley5354
@joeeley5354 5 жыл бұрын
Video summary: “Sony is better but I’m not allowed to say it. “
@nguyenvo6028
@nguyenvo6028 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Eley tks for saving 16 mins of my life
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 4 жыл бұрын
Well, no.
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe last year. But This year, Canon is releasing the R5 and R6, while it seems the A7 IV and the A7S III are being delayed indefinitely. Anyway, even if they were coming out, the R5 is the most anticipated camera of the year. Boy, I'm glad I waited for the Canon mirrorless system to mature a little, before wasting money on a Sony system. Sure, the eye autofocus seems great, but the video recording on the Sony A7 IV is rumored lousy 4K 30, the Canon R5 is able to do 8K 30p and 4K 60p no crop, with internal video recording. Plus, it's made in Japan instead of Made in China, like the Sony. lmao, the lenses are way higher quality in the Canon system too. Man, people saying Sony is "better", for a lot of people the R6 is going to be better than the A7 IV would have been. Man, it's a monopoly for Canon this year, and the big announcement event is later this month online.
@neolier
@neolier 4 жыл бұрын
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Now you only need to sell your soul to afford it... While most casual and pro shooter can pick up an A7 III at half the price (or less) than what the R5 will surely cost.
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr 4 жыл бұрын
@@neolier A7 III is still a two thousand dollar camera. R5 Canon mirrorless body is expected to be 3499.00 I'll be surprised if it's more than that.
@BillFerris
@BillFerris 6 жыл бұрын
So, the A7 III has two card slots, clearly superior dynamic range, autofocus and burst rate, better video quality, a larger selection of quality native mount lenses and isn't hampered by that total waste of a slider bar control. Yet, you lead off the video saying you can't decide between the two. With respect to a casual shooter, they should use their smartphone for selfie videos or vlogging. Get the Sony for everything else. It's the clearly better camera for both stills and video.
@Falcrist
@Falcrist 6 жыл бұрын
I think he says there's no winner because both cameras have features that make them non-starters for certain kinds of shooting. The lack of a second card slot makes the Canon a potentially ruinous choice for wedding photographers. The lack of a flip out screen makes vlogging with the Sony basically impossible. Also, if you currently use Canon cameras, having the Canon lenses with a Canon adapter is a HUGE benefit for the EOS R.
@johnverity5365
@johnverity5365 6 жыл бұрын
I think people starting out in Full Frame will probably go straight to the Sony, or maybe wait for the Panasonic, the only people trying to decide between the Sony and the Canon are existing Canon shooters who've invested in a lot of premium glass. The MC-11 works ok at shorter focal lengths but it still misses shots, I wouldn't use it for anything important. Since Canon don't have to reverse engineer their own mount, their adapter is presumably closer to native experience. I've heard that the Sony 70-200 f2.8 G Master for example isn't as good as the Canon equivalent, and costs more, so the Canon shooter has the choice of spending thousands on replacing their lenses, some maybe not quite as good as what they already owned, to gain better dynamic range (which may be a big deal for some, less so for others), better auto focus and better eye autofocus. I don't think it's a clear-cut decision by any means. I've currently got a foot in both camps, love my A7R III, but not planning on replacing all my glass any time soon, if Canon up their game in the next generation I may well be tempted back!
@Davitor1
@Davitor1 6 жыл бұрын
Bill Ferris for stills the Canon is better. It can give sharp shots at 6.5 stops with a 2 seconds exposure hand held! A fully articulating screen with 2 second handheld exposure is a wonderful combination.
@kyletaggart
@kyletaggart 6 жыл бұрын
Bill Ferris 100% agree. The only reasons I see people getting the canon over the Sony is flip screen, owning canon lenses, or brand loyalty. The Sony is CHEAPER by hundreds of dollars, and better in so many other aspects.
@Davitor1
@Davitor1 6 жыл бұрын
hikyletaggart the canon has higher resolution, which translates to sharper images. In photography that’s about the most important feature.
@LangstonBall
@LangstonBall 6 жыл бұрын
Nooooooooooo! How will i spin this video to conform to my pre-existing world view without a clear winner!
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
😂
@agentorange8530
@agentorange8530 6 жыл бұрын
Buy Nikon
@alex-yd7ju
@alex-yd7ju 6 жыл бұрын
full frame gives a lot better iso performance, so no bueno. I will not be downsizing my sensor size from APS-C
@JohnDoe-cp2zd
@JohnDoe-cp2zd 6 жыл бұрын
A liquor store photo study? Hey I'm not judging...
@mallred4347
@mallred4347 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure but it looks like the Sony won all the individual tests (focusing, frame rate, video, controls, AF, Speed, Dynamic Range, lenses, etc) but it didn't win the title?
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
It depends on the user. The Canon has a flip screen much better focusing with Canon lenses. Otherwise most people will be happier with the Sony.
@mallred4347
@mallred4347 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't people be better off with an EOS M5 vs the EOS R since the R crops so much? They could save a bunch of money and buy lenses with the money saved.
@dimebagdarrell147
@dimebagdarrell147 6 жыл бұрын
When vlogging support became so important to photogs?
@rolceron
@rolceron 6 жыл бұрын
He was sponsored by both.
@amitkrupal1234
@amitkrupal1234 6 жыл бұрын
Whats the use if its cropping while filming.
@dr.sommer5069
@dr.sommer5069 6 жыл бұрын
Very Canon friendly review
@mallred4347
@mallred4347 6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Seems like vlogging is also the most important camera feature set for Tony "now a days" which seems silly. Seems like the Canon is the new toy and that's what he wants to play with... It's hard to understand why the Canon wins or he does a poor job articulating exactly why.
@TomasRamoska
@TomasRamoska 6 жыл бұрын
@@mallred4347 hands down you have Sony camera and you trying to justify a purchase :) you did right choice and now you can just chill it's no point to leave 20 comments under the video lol.
@mallred4347
@mallred4347 6 жыл бұрын
You have way too much time on your hands to be counting my posts. Kinda creepy and weird Tomas. BTW your analysis is wrong - I posted a bunch because 1. I was a disappointed with Tonys flopping and recent love affair with vlogging with a 3 pound camera that is obviously a dumb choice for the job and 2. I was bored/cranky last night... BTW, I've pre-ordered the EOS-R and I own 5 Canon L lenses along with my A7R3 and A9. I'm looking forward to using the EOS R with my lenses (which do work great with my Metabones V adapter on my Sonys). You're a creep.
@TomasRamoska
@TomasRamoska 6 жыл бұрын
@@mallred4347 I will take that as a compliment :)
@johnyeta
@johnyeta 6 жыл бұрын
very balanced actually
@svadobnyfotograf
@svadobnyfotograf 6 жыл бұрын
Went for the Sony the first chance I got, switching from Canon after 10 years. Not saying there isn't a learning curve, or that everything is better, but it still feels like stepping 5-10 years into the future. Just finished a wedding with 2x A7III and an A7RIII, the AF is in another league, and the eye af and excellent tracking make the portrait session and things like low light wedding reception dancing photos a breeze. Thanks for non biased review. Apart from the flippy tilty screen, for professional work the canon looks quite inferior. Now really the only two things I'd wish in the A7III would be a bit more ruggedness / weather sealing, and that excellent silent shutter of the A9. But still, it is a perfect workhorse, not missing a beat in any of the weddings I've shot this year.
@mallred4347
@mallred4347 6 жыл бұрын
Great, honest review - I have the A7R3 & A9. Used to have the 5DSr.
@azmisafri8571
@azmisafri8571 5 жыл бұрын
And now with new update from Sony. New eye AF permanently haha
@haneefa14
@haneefa14 Жыл бұрын
After warrenty Sony dead
@roadbiker1
@roadbiker1 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see an update to this video now that the EOS R is a year old and there have been several firmware updates.
@SimonBauer
@SimonBauer 6 жыл бұрын
13:50 I disagree, Sony video auto-focus isn't jerky at all, just depends which focusing speed you choose. "Normal" speed is butter!
@grat2010
@grat2010 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thorough review. Sony appears to be the winner despite having no flippy screen IMO.
@WildBikerBill
@WildBikerBill 6 жыл бұрын
To me where the Canon EOS R fails is the massive crop factor when shooting video, so if you are going back and forth between shooting video & photos you have to completely reframe to get the same shot in the two different modes. I still find it hard to believe Canon did that.
@krishnapoddar1655
@krishnapoddar1655 6 жыл бұрын
That crop factor is just for 4K video
@WildBikerBill
@WildBikerBill 6 жыл бұрын
+ Krishna Poddar I know - I meant to say that. And I reiterate: I think it is a massive fail to have such a large difference in the Field of View between the two shooting modes.
@chandan6119
@chandan6119 6 жыл бұрын
its 2018,many people shoot in 4k now.
@AllCarsUnited
@AllCarsUnited 6 жыл бұрын
@@chandan6119 4k allows for some cropping in post
@chandan6119
@chandan6119 6 жыл бұрын
yes 4k is the way to go now
@gordw6402
@gordw6402 6 жыл бұрын
Tony a true gentleman/diplomat The plus for Canon um..um..um It has nicer buttons No lenses, it doesn't focus but...
@str8poisintv131
@str8poisintv131 6 жыл бұрын
Dont worry he gets paid to confuse our wallets and cause us buyers remorse lol the sony is the winner
@mitul_tkdr
@mitul_tkdr 6 жыл бұрын
Tony make a video like this comparing Nikon Z with sony a7 iii...plz.. thank you
@pator12
@pator12 6 жыл бұрын
The Canon EOS R : the hidden child from a drunken night of a Sony A7 I (2013) and a Canon 5D IV (2016). Welcome to the family !
@mallred4347
@mallred4347 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@pjf7943
@pjf7943 6 жыл бұрын
So far, this is the best comparison yet. Informative, unbiased, concise and to the point. Nice work, Tony...
@pjf7943
@pjf7943 6 жыл бұрын
In addition, while many of the nay sayers here put down the flip-out screen, it is a definite advantage, especially when trying to minimize reflections and maximize the scene if you are using live view.. Just one of the many reasons I enjoy my 80D..
@alex0589
@alex0589 6 жыл бұрын
unless you take into account that theyre PAID BY CANON
@kevindiaz3459
@kevindiaz3459 6 жыл бұрын
Yes Alex, people that are paid by Canon are also allowed to post links to other companies products as well as even mention anyone else's brand. What a genius way to market your own product.
@jospehbroham6743
@jospehbroham6743 6 жыл бұрын
p f are you blind? Or am I missing something? The Sony camera I saw in the video was the a7riii, not the a7iii. The a7iii has a 1.2 crop in 4k 30p. Tony said it has no crop because he's using an entirely different camera for the comparison test LOL
@jasonrehder953
@jasonrehder953 6 жыл бұрын
Unbiased....LOL......That is the funniest thing I have read in the last month..... $5400 trip to Hawaii............. They are shills for Canon.... It's like the Leonard Cohen Song.... Everybody Knows, if he were still alive, he would write a new verse..... "Everybody knows that the Northrup's are shills for Canon"
@JohnLemieux
@JohnLemieux 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a nikon user and don't have a horse in the canon/sony race but if I were getting either of these it would 100% be the Sony.
@fritzlanbin9412
@fritzlanbin9412 6 жыл бұрын
Once great dynamic range/ never go back;-)
@halfphild
@halfphild 6 жыл бұрын
Same boat here, John. I can't fully express how bad this is from Canon at that price point. What a strange camera. Huge sensor, zero features, flip out screen. So confusing.
@SimonBauer
@SimonBauer 6 жыл бұрын
Yup good choice, switched from Nikon to Sony
@seacow2001
@seacow2001 6 жыл бұрын
I went Sony initially, switching to Canon now.
@SimonBauer
@SimonBauer 6 жыл бұрын
Because of the flippy screen? lol
@krio.
@krio. 6 жыл бұрын
Where's Chelsea? I'd like her to be in the video even if just to annoy Tony! :D
@florinsi
@florinsi 6 жыл бұрын
and for the boudoir future photoshoot ... ;)
@vinhqngouoc
@vinhqngouoc 6 жыл бұрын
Yep I totally agreed. Chelsea is much prettier then The great Tony.lol
@RayValdezPhotography
@RayValdezPhotography 6 жыл бұрын
Is Tony old or born with white hair like Dante?
@simonleonp
@simonleonp 6 жыл бұрын
😂 true that
@stephendenagy3396
@stephendenagy3396 6 жыл бұрын
You confirmed again what I have always experienced. Canon has terrible shadow noise. Again and again my 6D lets me down when shooting at night. 3 stops of shadow push is nothing, and thus I have to mess with various tricks in post. WHY can't we have a quiet sensor, Canon? And if it will be noisy (as all sensors must be at some point) why can't the noise be more random, stochastic? Then I might just leave it, as it would have a film like quality. But the color bands and blobs are WAY harder to clean than luminance noise. Just SO DISAPPOINTED. I guess Canon designers never shoot at night! That makes Sony the clear winner. Because what you said is basically this: the cameras are pretty equal, but avoid shooting in such and such situations with Canon. Case closed. Not being a vlogger, Sony is where I am heading!
@duckyduckduck2192
@duckyduckduck2192 6 жыл бұрын
It might be who is behind the camera who is counting pixels instead of learning how light works.
@stephendenagy3396
@stephendenagy3396 6 жыл бұрын
I am glad you shoot properly lit images and no need to be concerned with this issue. In severe backlight, while trying to hold detail/color in the sky, pulling shadows is a serious problem and has nothing to do with pixel peeping.
@duckyduckduck2192
@duckyduckduck2192 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just goofing about. No offense. That must be awful having to shoot in such awful conditions all the time. I would hate that. Can you find a workaround to make life a little easier for you?
@NickyRoads
@NickyRoads 4 жыл бұрын
"Theres no clear winner" proceeds to give example of every reason the sony is definitely the clear winner
@strider00111
@strider00111 6 жыл бұрын
No clear winner are you kidding me!
@Fadetoblackcollective
@Fadetoblackcollective 5 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@miyahtallulah
@miyahtallulah 4 жыл бұрын
Sony, but AF video is terrible.
@herbiespizza
@herbiespizza 6 жыл бұрын
OMG...... THE CANON USB CHARGER RETAILS FOR $190..............Why? Its a $20 charger at most. It just goes to show how naive some people are.....!!!!! Cant wait for someone to justify this kind of BS..... I'm not going to buy this camera as I'm a fuji/nikon user but had to comment. $190 for a Canon USB adapter.......!!!!! A Phase One Battery charger/cradle costs $140 and thats a $20,000 camera....... GO Figure.....!!!
@ropersix
@ropersix 6 жыл бұрын
The Sony A7III doesn't even come with a battery charger. You have to buy one separately for around $80. Talk about a royal rip-off!
@MsIrrealis
@MsIrrealis 6 жыл бұрын
they probably sell the camera at a discount... they have to make the money somewhere. just a guess tho
@madrigalelect3388
@madrigalelect3388 6 жыл бұрын
Justification: because Apple.
@apassionfortangling3671
@apassionfortangling3671 6 жыл бұрын
I bought an excellent USB charger that can charge 2 Canon batteries. Made by Powerextra. Very good value for money!
@jaysanchez4407
@jaysanchez4407 6 жыл бұрын
@@ropersix yeah because you can charge the camera directly with any cheap USB-C cable
@KingStivan
@KingStivan 6 жыл бұрын
how much did Ford pay you to make this review?!?!
@weschilton
@weschilton 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, that made me laugh!
@KingStivan
@KingStivan 6 жыл бұрын
Chevy must have paid you well to laugh !! also am glad you did 😙
@kevindiaz3459
@kevindiaz3459 6 жыл бұрын
How much did Pontiac pay you to ask? Oh wait...
@KingStivan
@KingStivan 6 жыл бұрын
@@kevindiaz3459 oh snap!
@rsilvers129
@rsilvers129 6 жыл бұрын
Your intro said "Sorry Fanbois but there is no clear winner." You then when on to show that the Sony was better in everything that mattered.
@mikezupancic2182
@mikezupancic2182 6 жыл бұрын
And yet Canon won in many things that mattered to many people. It is all about what one feels important as features. Canon has more glass to use natively, better for vlogging, has far more AF points and from everything I have seen, far better AF performance for non action. Once Sony brings out lots of big glass and it doesn't cost $12k then maybe people will think Sony is the clear cut winner in everything.
@rsilvers129
@rsilvers129 6 жыл бұрын
Huh? Canon has like 5 native lenses. Sony has closer to 50. Canon doesn't have working eye focus.
@mikezupancic2182
@mikezupancic2182 6 жыл бұрын
@@rsilvers129 every canon lens is a native lens with the adapter and the adapters have different purposes.
@rsilvers129
@rsilvers129 6 жыл бұрын
Only native lenses (no adaptor) are native.
@mikezupancic2182
@mikezupancic2182 6 жыл бұрын
@@rsilvers129 not true. It works 100% with the camera, is OEM equipment with the adapter made specifically for those lenses. They are for all practical purposes, native lenses.
@gauravgangurde1610
@gauravgangurde1610 3 жыл бұрын
Biased review towards canon 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@Ultimartinum
@Ultimartinum 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry Tony, Canon EOS-R is not hot
@thisis5123
@thisis5123 6 жыл бұрын
Mount size is not only for the purpose of smaller lenses. It allows larger aperture too in the case of the 28-70 f/2. It's all preference which camera to use, It can be rationally argued that Canon is at least a valid option, worthy of purchase, and even superior/inferior in specific aspects. Canon have things Sony don't and vice versa.
@Yourtaer
@Yourtaer 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Big ass sensors and barrelsize lenses produce stunning pictures. Sony is just a step lower on the ladder, with a shirtpocket camera on the first sport. ;)
@KellyStilwell-VirtuallyYours
@KellyStilwell-VirtuallyYours 5 жыл бұрын
@YouMeAndFresnoBob This is exactly what I was thinking!
@jasonn4397
@jasonn4397 6 жыл бұрын
The “Casual Shooter” would only benefit from ALL the things the A7III includes, for less money. How the hell is the Canon better exactly? I understand Tony’s been getting lots of flack lately for calling out Canon and Nikon, but I would find him so much more credible if he stuck to his guns. This video was pretty difficult to stomach.
@colinshawhan8590
@colinshawhan8590 4 жыл бұрын
And for selfies? How about the decent HD video camera we all have in our pockets now? I have taken maybe five selfies with my SLR. I personally hate them! Half my selfies are making fun of people who take selfies!
@zaneleitch7572
@zaneleitch7572 6 жыл бұрын
-The Canon has an AA filter -The multifunction bar is unusable -DPAF doesn't work as intended -No IS -4k video unusable -Single card slot -Overpriced -The A7III is superior to cameras with twice the cost -"There is no clear winner" -Wat
@mallred4347
@mallred4347 6 жыл бұрын
Zane Leitch - Thank you from a sane x canon and current sony camera owner
@anandasama
@anandasama 6 жыл бұрын
@@aceflibble or affiliates.
@danieltaylor1522
@danieltaylor1522 6 жыл бұрын
The Canon has an AA filter yet is clearly sharper and more detailed in the test shots he showed.
@kenjiyamamoto8470
@kenjiyamamoto8470 5 жыл бұрын
@@danieltaylor1522 they should they test it with sony + their best lense, vs canon r + the ultimate best lense of RF lense,. they forget something that lense matters the most rather than the body,. i can get great image and photo on my entry lvl camera just by using 50mm 1.2 lense,.
@danieltaylor1522
@danieltaylor1522 5 жыл бұрын
@@kenjiyamamoto8470 Looking at the lenses Canon is releasing that's not going to help Sony. So far the RF glass is fantastic.
@EDCGadgets
@EDCGadgets 6 жыл бұрын
Skintone test in mixed lighting situation, with AWB? Portrait-profile comparison? These are some extremely valid reasons why Canon users are still sticking to their gear.
@meherkourouyan4644
@meherkourouyan4644 6 жыл бұрын
The Sony a7iii also gives you the option to punch into aps-c mode, allowing you to move in tighter. Granted, you do lose some resolution, but it allows you to get the shot. (I’m a life long Canon pro who waited and waited for the Canon mirrorless, and then switched to Sony AFTER the EOS R was announced.)
@krio.
@krio. 6 жыл бұрын
For stills, you can do exactly the same thing by cropping your photo in post.
@meherkourouyan4644
@meherkourouyan4644 6 жыл бұрын
kristianmag true, however when you crop into apsc, the eye autofocus finds your intended target easier, especially if it’s at an event or party with multiple options.
@brois841
@brois841 6 жыл бұрын
With Canon, they give you the APS-C/Super35/Crop mode by default. Just selet 4k instead of 1080p and there you go. Instant zoom. Enjoy ;)
@meherkourouyan4644
@meherkourouyan4644 6 жыл бұрын
BROis yeah lol, too bad they don’t give you the option to go full frame in 4k. Canon’s constant crippling of their camera basically helped me make the switch an easy decision, and there are lots more like me. They don’t want to cannibalize their cinema line, but now they’ve lost a Canon lifer instead.
@brois841
@brois841 6 жыл бұрын
They aren't crippling on purpose, they just don't have the processor/technology for it at the moment. At least according to an interview with their execs. They also considered using IBIS, but couldn't deal with the heat. Trust me, these companies aren't looking to get beat by someone else just to save another line... I just don't think they have the resources at this stage to deal with the things it took Sony YEARS to innovate/develop and test in the marketplace. I was watching an interview with someone from Sony and they mentioned that the insanely quiet/fast/accurate motors in the Sony 400 f/2.8 were actually the same technology they've employed for IBIS. They've since put that same AF motor into the Sony FE 24 f/1.4 GM and I'm sure future lenses will enjoy all of those innovations.
@jaimeduncan6167
@jaimeduncan6167 6 жыл бұрын
I am surprised that you selected the Canon. I don’t understand why. The only thing (according to your own video ) that it does is : 1. Filming yourself alone 2. Video autofocus at low resolution (we know canon is the best at that). The autofocus if frustratingly slow, there are almost no lenses. It’s a single camera system st the moment. Sony no longer has only expensive lenses , you can get native lenses from. Sigma. The Sony is a proven system , the Canon is new. I frankly fail to see why recommend a normal newbie that camera. The screen is totally irrelevant, most people buying a camera will not use it to film themselves blog style.
@TNumbers
@TNumbers 6 жыл бұрын
Why would someone recommend a newbie this type of camera anyways?
@paulwood6729
@paulwood6729 6 жыл бұрын
... who would be using their iPhone or Samsung.
@mcbean1
@mcbean1 6 жыл бұрын
surely a young vlogger would get more mileage from a cheaper dslr or m3/4 if you only want to film yourself do you really need an interchangable lens system?
@senaritradutta
@senaritradutta 6 жыл бұрын
Please check his image quality test video ....Canon having better IQ details n sharpness wise
@duckyduckduck2192
@duckyduckduck2192 6 жыл бұрын
Sony makes TV's they don't make camera's you silly billy. Tony is wise enough to know this.
@thomassch.4110
@thomassch.4110 6 жыл бұрын
Soooooo.... the sony is better in EVERYTHING except flip out screen, deeper grip and better screen resolutions but still no clear winner?? Mhhh 🤔
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
At the end I suggest winners for different types of users.
@MikedieONE
@MikedieONE 6 жыл бұрын
Well aso better EVF, sharper images, better build quality
@thomassch.4110
@thomassch.4110 6 жыл бұрын
@@TonyAndChelsea I get your point and understand that as a Canon photographer there are reasons for staying with Canon but in the end it still feels like an 80% to 20% for Sony from my point of view but we don't need to have the same opinion on this... Besides that i always love your reviews and I'm happy to see more competition in the market to drive the innovation 📸
@jospehbroham6743
@jospehbroham6743 6 жыл бұрын
How does the canon have sharper images when it has a full blown AA filter on it while the A7iii has a very subtle AA filter? Sharper images is a BS statement. You have mistaken the extra resolution of the 30mp sensor which only matter when you pixel peep or crop really, really tight.
@Shambolicoholic
@Shambolicoholic 6 жыл бұрын
According to this review... UNUSABLE/USELESS features: Canon 3 (Eye-AF, Silent shooting AF, Action AF). Sony: 0
@JJ777S
@JJ777S 6 жыл бұрын
Why was Nikon not invited to this party?
@sidraiz22
@sidraiz22 6 жыл бұрын
Because Nikon didn't invite them to Hawaii!
@alanguile8945
@alanguile8945 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the transparency at the start about the trips. Why do so few understand the importance of this? I don't for a moment think it influences your reviews or I wouldn't be watching! I hope this won't lower my chance of winning a camera!
@Pierre.P4
@Pierre.P4 6 жыл бұрын
The FPS rate on the Canon was shocking. Wow Canon. That is horrid.
@rlemburg
@rlemburg 6 жыл бұрын
It’s odd that you say there is no clear winner and then rattle off advantage after advantage for the A7iii: much better video, IBIS, 2 card slots, more native lenses, auto focus, free usb charging, joystick, better button placement, etc...
@emko333
@emko333 6 жыл бұрын
i bet they try to make it seem fair to Canon so they don't lose any business from them if they just basically say don't get a Canon.
@KMVlogs
@KMVlogs 6 жыл бұрын
ok im SOLD. A7III it is :)
@Keepinitreal55
@Keepinitreal55 6 жыл бұрын
KM Vlogs I’m sold, eos R it is!
@alexcanham2709
@alexcanham2709 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sold, Fuji XT3 it is!
@sidraiz22
@sidraiz22 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sold, Nikon Z7 it is!
@kevindiaz3459
@kevindiaz3459 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sold, none of these cameras will offer any more practical function than my current one.
@RayValdezPhotography
@RayValdezPhotography 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sold, Panasonic S1R it is!
@CreatorViruZ
@CreatorViruZ 3 жыл бұрын
I was split between the Eos RP and Eos R and decided for the Eos RP and some things are actually working better and easier than on the Eos R and this test just proved it to me. Glad I went for the RP. Always asked myself if the R would have been a better choice.
@finaltouchpro648
@finaltouchpro648 Жыл бұрын
Only advantages of the R is C-Log, battery life and better low-light performance. Picture-wise they're almost, if not on par.
@amermeleitor
@amermeleitor 10 ай бұрын
​@@finaltouchpro648and dynamic range is far better with the eos R
@EchoAlpha
@EchoAlpha 6 жыл бұрын
This is a poor comparison @Tony you didn’t mention that canon cannot adapt Sony lenses yet you mark sony down for not being perfect with adapting canon glass when it is their competitors. You went route of Peter McKinnon and hyped up this sub par camera to make it a match for Sony. It shoots crop 4K when Sony is oversampled 4K. Only thing I can give it as a win is the blogger style autofocus. Everything else Sony slaughtered canon and Nikon. For photographers there’s only one winner. Sony. For videographer it is still Sony. Just by an atomos 4K screen for 300$ and you can see yourself and it would still cost less than Canon 😱
@tomd4748
@tomd4748 2 жыл бұрын
Someone owns the Sony 🤡
@patmat.
@patmat. 4 жыл бұрын
The Sony has IBIS, better dynamic range, AF, FPS, video slomo, no 4K crop, cheaper sharper lenses ... and you can't call it between the two 🤔... oh it's the flip screen 😅
@Chazyfizzlez
@Chazyfizzlez 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the dual card slots in the Sony. That said, I sold my a7riii and downgraded to the eos r. I'm a lot happier with the eos r mainly due to the grip comfort and general ease of use. Picked up the RF 15-35, RF 50 and RF 85 and have been blown away with the IQ. It's a lot like the PC vs Apple comparison. Sony packs their cameras with top tier specs and options (PC) while Canon uses a more intuitive ecosystem approach (Apple). Can't really go wrong either way.
@914bub
@914bub 6 жыл бұрын
The sony is the clear winner tbh
@brois841
@brois841 6 жыл бұрын
Except for the fact that it doesn't have a flippy screen and doesn't adapt Canon lenses natively.
@leonscott543
@leonscott543 6 жыл бұрын
@@brois841 So it doesn't have afeature that is only useful to the small percentage of KZbinrs out there. And it isn't natively compatible with it's competitors products??? Lol
@squirreldemon3506
@squirreldemon3506 6 жыл бұрын
@@brois841 vloggers make an extremely small portion of photographers and videographers. And why would it need to adapt canon lenses natively? It's not like the Canon can adapt sony lenses. At least it can adapt a-mount, Canon, and sigma lenses at all. There's already great native sony lenses so that should not be a talking point at all.
@brois841
@brois841 6 жыл бұрын
Guys, I know you think only KZbinrs want this feature, but they aren't the only ones. I've had my camera near a wall or a place where it was a pain to walk around and get my head back there. You can flip the screen and show the subjects so they can see what they look like and how things are framed. I have many examples when I found it useful, but the point is it's about choice. Fuji's system allows for the same up/down tilting that Sony has, but also flip-out for anyone who might want it. So simple and ingenious. Another thing I like about the flippy screen on the Panasonic GH line of cameras is that you can flip it around to protect it and throw it in a bag. Always nice to have a choice and I honestly like Canon's screen.
@Tim596100
@Tim596100 6 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure that the only Fuji camera that has that currently is the new budget Fuji x-t100 and that is the best system with the best of both worlds, all other Fujis with a moving screen are like the Sony. But if I had to choose between the sony style or canon style screen it would be the Sony one because it is more discreet in public/street photography and the screen is closer to the controls, also you can use an external monitor if you really need to see yourself. Also because the screen on the Canon flips out to the left, it means you have to cross your hands over if you are right handed and hold the camera with your left hand and want to use the touch screen with your right hand while it is flipped out and tilted up or down.
@alex0589
@alex0589 6 жыл бұрын
190$ for a usb charger? Does it come with Supercharging for life at Tesla stops? Otherwise, this is fucking insane.
@kellettd2
@kellettd2 6 жыл бұрын
That's a creepy head!
@KarlONeill
@KarlONeill 6 жыл бұрын
thats the main thing i took away from this video. nightmares.
@andrepepin9792
@andrepepin9792 4 жыл бұрын
I always wonder why these reviews never get updated. At least, they should put a sticky note mentioning that since the 1.4 firmware update, Canon EOS R is not that far behind the Sony A7 III
@AllgoodthingsTv
@AllgoodthingsTv 6 жыл бұрын
Good review video. For Canon to even be in the running against Sony on their first full frame mirrorless camera says a lot. However, you forgot one key feature re: video in your head-to-head: color science. That comparison video from the Canon just looked way better than the Sony.
@alexmeier19
@alexmeier19 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but if you have no raw, you can't post process the video as you want as the camera already does some kind of pixel interpretation. Plus it takes much more time. And still I've never seen as good skintones from sony as from canon yet (in video!).
@joaquinbowen7122
@joaquinbowen7122 3 жыл бұрын
Color science is not a big deal, you can get it done in post🙄
@abosowailih2504
@abosowailih2504 2 жыл бұрын
Which one is better for filmmakers, i am using canon 700d and it’s good in voice recording and video but my problem is in video quality at night and low light the video come very noisy and unclear, so what all of you suggest for me
@dimitristsagdis7340
@dimitristsagdis7340 6 жыл бұрын
If I was starting now and had the money for either of these two new bodies I would get an a7III or save a bit more and get the A7RIII (they are only 350 euros apart). Tony could you do a comparison of how the 24-105 Canon lens measures up against the SONY 24-105?
@0507dominik
@0507dominik 6 жыл бұрын
How is the 7iii only 350 eur cheaper than the Riii?
@dimitristsagdis7340
@dimitristsagdis7340 6 жыл бұрын
Check : www.e-infin.com/eu/category/mirrorless_cameras
@fantomfoto
@fantomfoto 6 жыл бұрын
I have the A7R3, it's amazing. The 42mp sensor is by far the best I've ever shot with.
@dimitristsagdis7340
@dimitristsagdis7340 6 жыл бұрын
What else did you shoot with?
@HEREONOUTBAILEY
@HEREONOUTBAILEY 5 жыл бұрын
What Sony camera are you actually reviewing, Tony? The tittle says A7III but the Sony camera you are showing clearly has an R on it? Are you comparing the Sony A7RIII?
@mauibuilder1239
@mauibuilder1239 6 жыл бұрын
10 bit 4:2:2 (external), 1080p 120fps, IBIS, Non-cropped 4K, nice EVF and touchscreen, excellent weather sealing......I think the Nikon Z6 is worth a look when it comes out soon and we see brutal reviews...otherwise I'll switch to Sony from Canon. Unless we get something definitive from Panasonic full frame very soon.
@danluck2006
@danluck2006 6 жыл бұрын
www.theverge.com/2018/9/29/17916606/panasonic-lumix-s1r-hands-on-photos-photokina-2018
6 жыл бұрын
also nikon comes with bad AF, IBIS is much worse than sony... and sony does external 4:2:2 (only 8bit, but it's better than internal 4:2:0)
@koolkutz7
@koolkutz7 6 жыл бұрын
Wait for the 2 Panasonic FF mirrorless cameras; they will smoke these two :-)
@Garrythegoat1
@Garrythegoat1 6 жыл бұрын
What about the a7riii vs the eos R?
@96lovelymama
@96lovelymama 6 жыл бұрын
Eos R has no chance against a7r?3
@lomarvgc1580
@lomarvgc1580 5 жыл бұрын
Sony a7riv vs eosr
@hamishdavidson3368
@hamishdavidson3368 6 жыл бұрын
Video autofocus too me was quicker on the Canon in 1080 than the Sony.
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
yeah the Canon's video AF is overall a little better
@hn87369
@hn87369 6 жыл бұрын
im happy with my a73 + sigma 35 1.4 sony 85 1.8 for ! allrounder hobby photoshoting
@ThisGuyRocksLikeCrazy
@ThisGuyRocksLikeCrazy 6 жыл бұрын
Nice setup. I have the same camera, but I only have one Sigma Art 50mm lens. They've been great so far.
@pyroBlastM
@pyroBlastM 4 жыл бұрын
Tony, the canon eye af test shown here was with the latest firmware?
@Shambolicoholic
@Shambolicoholic 6 жыл бұрын
Holy moly, Northrups. I'm a fan of your channel (I even paid for SDP) but this is just an embarrassment. Unless a flippy screen is your NUMBER ONE priority (the only thing the Sony flat-out can't do) there really should be no circumstance where the Canon should be recommended over A73. Apparently you're recommending this (edit: Canon) for people "If you're a new casual shooter without any particular camera" even though what "new, casual shooter" is buying a $2,300 camera??? but you also concede that EYE AF: "[CANON] Canon EYE AF is unusable", Silent shooting: "[CANON] Essentiaully useless", Action AF: "[CANON] It's one of the worst sports cameras I've ever used". Why??? Because Canon EOS-R menus and viewfinder are slightly better. :o WTF?? I can't even wrap my head around this recommendation. I'm not a pro. Just an enthusiast and I use these features ALL THE TIME. I volunteered and took class pictures for my kid's school. Guess what? I used Eye-AF and friggin' killed it. I shot pix for my cousin's wedding. Silent shot her whole walk down the aisle (/w AF at more than 2 fps). Mind boggling how you discount these actual features that get you better pictures over subjective things like "slightly better body-feel, menus and viewfinder". Maybe the menus or VF aren't as good but the Sony doesn't have "useless", "unusable" features. So, according to you, a slightly better form factor/menus/EVF are more important to new shooters over (probably) best in-class Eye-AF, Motion AF, Silent shooting AF/etc/etc. This video is just crazy-town to me... :(
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
Your basing all this based on my review, and it sounds like you haven't used the camera, so I don't know why you think I'm crazy. The Canon is sharper, easier to use, and takes the all-important selfie. New photographers will love it. I specifically recommended the Sony for wedding photographers.
@MegaNardman
@MegaNardman 6 жыл бұрын
Who gets into a full-frame ILC camera setup for selfies? That's what cell phones are for. Vlogging? Yes. Selfies? No.
@Shambolicoholic
@Shambolicoholic 6 жыл бұрын
If I came off a little harsh, I apologize. I'd been drinking...lol, so I'll take it down like 3 notches. You're absolutely right. I haven't used it but I think my points are still valid when comparing the 2 directly but if your conclusion is: new photographers (that have $2300 to drop) will like it then I can't refute that. IMO, I think that even new shooters will want to eventually try Eye-AF, Motion AF, Silent shooting AF but if you buy the Canon you're SOL because they're "useless" and "unusable" but that's just me. I still love ya, Tony.
@AllCarsUnited
@AllCarsUnited 6 жыл бұрын
Buy a a73 for pro work and pick up a Sony a5100 for vlogging for 300 bucks. Price comes out the same as one canon. Keeping my fingers crossed for a professional canon mirrorrless in the mean time
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
You definitely won't get the same results with the a5100.
@rattoh
@rattoh 6 жыл бұрын
Or you could just use your 4k 60p iphone on a small gimble for the average vlogger.
@AyoolaBoyejo
@AyoolaBoyejo 6 жыл бұрын
@@chuck90504 True, a Panasonic G85 would be better for vlogging. Good image quality and a stabilization, flip out screen and lightweight.
@cemizgi
@cemizgi 6 жыл бұрын
Or buy this one just for 13 bucks and use your 6.5 inch phone screen to see your self. It will give 2,5 times bigger view your self. www.amazon.com/Chargercity-Camera-Tripod-Samsung-Smartphone/dp/B00C3QF4GY
@h.kurnia8175
@h.kurnia8175 6 жыл бұрын
No mic jack on 5100
@frankfeng2701
@frankfeng2701 6 жыл бұрын
The cheaper A7iii destoys R.
@redflactober
@redflactober 5 жыл бұрын
XuQi Feng I’ve been trying to decide between the two, whats your reason for this?
@cinemaheist8
@cinemaheist8 6 жыл бұрын
If you shoot a lot of video the sony kills the canon.
@rproctor83
@rproctor83 6 жыл бұрын
How could the EOS R cost more than the A7III it just doesn't make sense?
@aerocooper143
@aerocooper143 5 жыл бұрын
Because flippy screen
@myopinion2day
@myopinion2day 4 жыл бұрын
Because Canon is greedy...
@BubuSnow93
@BubuSnow93 6 жыл бұрын
5:25 The image comparison is flawed tho, it's still the same from the previous video where the A7III image is out of focus. There isn't almost any perceivable difference in detail between a 30 and 24 mpx sensor.
@zeyarhtet9219
@zeyarhtet9219 6 жыл бұрын
Nikon is better... u r afraid to make a comparison... and it wont be gone with ur ignorance...
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm afraid. You've figured me out.
@sidraiz22
@sidraiz22 6 жыл бұрын
Don't worry we know you have recently recieved the nikon camera so you couldn't include them , I just hope you make a unbiased review for nikon because in Nikon video you were very critical about the one card slot but in canon first video you didn't thought it was so much big of a deal . I think this is the reason people are on to you guys!
@asant90
@asant90 5 жыл бұрын
Sony a7iii all day
@manwatch6943
@manwatch6943 5 жыл бұрын
I own both, but I feel that EOS R is made more robustly in the sense of holding it, and EVF is also higher than EOS R by several stages. Moreover, the heat radiation effect and the drip-proof effect are high. And the color of the canon is familiar.
@cyrusIIIII
@cyrusIIIII 2 жыл бұрын
Do you still hold the same opinion 2 years later?
@foggy7525
@foggy7525 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never owned a camera before and I’m thinking about getting an EOS R, will I regret this?
@AtlanticPicture
@AtlanticPicture 6 жыл бұрын
1 nearly perfect cam divided into 2 bodies..
@chrisfeatherstone9691
@chrisfeatherstone9691 6 жыл бұрын
Good review! One cool trick I learned from Sidney Diongzon is to make the Af response fast during 120fps recording on the Sony. It’ll appear really fast during normal playback but when it’s slowed down to 24fps it’ll be a nice buttery transition during slow motion.
@MrNYCman530
@MrNYCman530 5 жыл бұрын
Except for the ergonomics, viewfinder, and control buttons, the Sony A7 lll is clearly superior, especially in low light. The comparison graph in DP Review shows the A7 lll is superior in most categories.
@AND838
@AND838 6 жыл бұрын
I switched to Sony from my 5D and its been great... I was waiting for Canon mirrorless so long and only now they release one am glad I did not wait. I really don't understand why canon could not do in camera image stabilization? This would been great with legacy lenses...huge deal breaker for me. Having said that am sure Canon will sell bunch of these and it might be good fit for many due its out of box color science.
@deebee68
@deebee68 6 жыл бұрын
“Sorry fan boys, there’s no clear winner”. Ummm I’m not sure if you watched your own review but it sounds like there’s a clear winner here... A7R3
@ce8091
@ce8091 6 жыл бұрын
Tony, another great review. I am ordering the EOS R, ( I have a lot of Canon lenses). I hope you do a review of the 4 RF lens in the near future.
@selasis4009
@selasis4009 6 жыл бұрын
I guess tony will never review the nikon z's huh?
@miyahtallulah
@miyahtallulah 4 жыл бұрын
Gawd. Impossible to buy ANYTHING! Only solution is multiple bodies.
@wikedwhich1
@wikedwhich1 3 жыл бұрын
ha ha ..yes
@DuyPham-on5cv
@DuyPham-on5cv 6 жыл бұрын
Price is another thing that makes Sony a winner!
@MadEnglishTV
@MadEnglishTV 6 жыл бұрын
THE PROBLEM: The low end G85 has a flippy screen and no record limit while the high end "video-centric" A7SII is a piece
@GregSheard
@GregSheard 6 жыл бұрын
I’m all over the Sony once I ditch my Nikon 🤘
@BrentRivers
@BrentRivers 6 жыл бұрын
I never looked back after 17yrs with Nikon. Sony rocks with the A9 and 7riii, no clue about the 7iii, but have to believe it's a great camera.
@GregSheard
@GregSheard 5 жыл бұрын
Anon Fox well kinda, the Nikon has much more glass if you use the adapter but in terms of the Z lenses than some has a lot more for their Mirrorless range at the moment
@ZakDeadlight
@ZakDeadlight 5 жыл бұрын
Great review. Despite what others say on here, I agree there's nothing in it for me between these 2 cameras - both are excellent, and I'd be equally happy with either. Personal circumstances are very dependent deciding what camera is more suitable - and I'm still not sure myself which one I'm going to go for: Sony - has no interval timer / timelapse, which is something I do often use Sony - no flip screen is a weakness and I'm not talking vlogging. I always use the flip screen with my kids for fun selfies, and for fun family photo's when on outdoor trips Sony - ergonomics are not great. Dated even. Usability is high on my important list and this is nearly a deal-breaker for me. I'm not a pro. I need something that feels comfortable for my beginner/intermediate needs Sony - doesn't seem 'friendly'. I can't put my finger on why - maybe the menu's, the looks, maybe the feeling of using old technology with the lower resolution EVF/LCD Sony - the 2 SD slots have no advantage for me at all. Not interested Sony - tried and tested, and clearly a quality all-round camera. Video looks excellent. Canon - x1.8 crop on 4k video. So what? I don't see this as an issue. Firstly, I'd just adjust my position to cater for the crop, as you would anyway. Secondly, 4k is just so unwieldy due to the size, thus the majority of my shooting would be in 1080p. Sure I'd do a few 4k, but in those few cases I'd not be bothered by the x1.8 crop Canon - rolling shutter is worse than Sony. Although looking at the video comparisons, it's not that bad. If I did a lot of video this would be a deal breaker, however I do say 80% photos, 20% video Canon - poorer dynamic range, I'm guessing due to the inferior sensor. I'm undecided how bothered I am about this. Canon - image stabilisation actually looks pretty good on the video comparisons. Canon - only a few lenses, however the lenses launched are all I need initially. I'd be keen to get the 70-200mm telephoto. Having access to all the EF/EF-S lenses in the meantime is comforting Canon - poorer low ISO, but I guess I can correct issues in Lightroom, and I don't really get to the very low ISO's Canon - "no joystick", although not having ever used one I'm not sure it's something I will miss. I do get how it would be useful Canon - I prefer the look & feel of it by a long way Canon - $190 for a USB charger?? What? If a USB-C charger doesn't natively work, then the camera cannot really claim to be USB chargeable, or even "USB compatible"! Canon - EOS RP version very attractive option There is no outright winner in these camera's. Both excellent. Its perhaps about deciding which deficiencies to accept and live with. I'm wondering whether the RP version is a better consideration being cheaper, lighter and seemingly having a very similar spec.
@anulearntech
@anulearntech 6 жыл бұрын
My tragedy is that I dont want to win the canon eos R, but the A7 III. If I win the EOS R, I'll sell it and get the A7III😁😁
@magnuspyke369
@magnuspyke369 6 жыл бұрын
Fair comparison, but... I would say that Sony a7iii is at least two generations ahead of the EOS R. So most likely the Riii will be a good camera but then Sony will introduce a7v or similar. After many years of using the full frame cameras from Canon I switched to Sony this summer and enjoy it. I will always respect Canon but hopefully they will learn something from Sony and treat their loyal customers better.
@AANasseh
@AANasseh 6 жыл бұрын
Totally a legit comparison. I'm glad to hear your conclusions were exactly as mine after looking into this for a while. I've preordered the R and am waiting. It fits my type of shooting. Thanks Tony!
@krisw7312
@krisw7312 6 жыл бұрын
It is a 3rd generation for Sony and 1st for Canon. Canon is not ready for prime time yet, clearly. But this is also why you don't buy the first year model of a car after major change. Nobody liked Sony A7. Canon 2nd generation (RR) is the one to wait for.
@ajalbetjr
@ajalbetjr 6 жыл бұрын
....but Canon has had FOUR YEARS to study what Sony has done with mirrorless, and TWO YEARS to come up with something better than this essentially tweaked version of the EOS 5d IV sensor (1.74 crop factor - WTH???) which took FOUR YEARS to be released after the 5d III!! No, what Canon did here is inexcusable
@mcbean1
@mcbean1 6 жыл бұрын
hang on a second I was promised something amazing by canon fanboys, granted the eosr is better then I expected but still not blowing my mind, now you're telling me i have to wait for the 2nd gen?
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 6 жыл бұрын
Kris W "Canon 2nd generation is the one to wait for." But then, won't the competition have also advanced accordingly? I'm not a sony user, but I'm sure that company is not going to just lay back with what they already have.
@krisw7312
@krisw7312 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing 1st generation is perfect. Granted, they (like Nikon) had a few years watching Sony and both 1st FF Nikon and Canon mirrorless are way better than 1st Sony but they can't bridge the gap completely. And the competition is always like that: the newest product from one brand is better than other things on the market until someone else introduces their new product. Both Nikon and Canon have features that competition doesn't, including Sony. Now think back a few years - what was your wish list for camera features? I bet all cameras have more today. We always want more, nothing wrong with it. It's a matter of setting your own list of important features and picking which camera is closest to it. Because many of us have a bunch of lenses, we will most likely stick to one brand. Just maybe not jumping on the first generation of mirrorless but waiting a bit more. I bet like Z6 and Z7, Canon will have their higher end mirrorless soon that will address some shortcomings of EOS R.
@KyrosX27
@KyrosX27 6 жыл бұрын
I guess that's the worst part. The competition has been out and it's not like the specs are hidden. They have the bar they have to beat and it seems like they didn't really make an overall better camera. Yeah, it's good in some and bad in some but, if you knew beforehand another person was gonna be wearing the same thing as you, why would you show up still wearing those clothes?
@topg2820
@topg2820 6 жыл бұрын
Why is everyone $hilling for the shitty EOS R so much? No one is making videos on Nikon Z series
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
Nikon just got us the Z. We've all had the R for a while. And how is this $hilling?
@Shadowgardenenigma
@Shadowgardenenigma 6 жыл бұрын
i like the idea of the touch bar but it should still have a joystick
@napalmhardcore
@napalmhardcore 5 жыл бұрын
I'm by no means an expert, but wouldn't something like the Panasonic GH5/GH5S be better as a vlogging camera than the Canon? The Canon seemed to have way more deal-breaking flaws than the Sony does. I also thought the circumstances under which the Sony exhibited banding made the shot look very unnatural anyway.
@_hold_the_line_
@_hold_the_line_ 6 жыл бұрын
I am a Canon shooter and I think the R is a bad first attempt at FF mirrorless. Bring back the joystick, put 2 card slots in it and sensor stabilisation. Then fix the eye AF and take off the AA filter. Only then will I buy it. In the mean time the Nikon Z looks much better. If Nikon only knew the potential of a proper ef to z adapter, they would make it their first priority.
@domtomas1178
@domtomas1178 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, so wait for the Pro EOS R model if you want/need those features
@nz388
@nz388 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't that A7R3 on the desktop?
@helmutlotti1032
@helmutlotti1032 6 жыл бұрын
We are a 4k channel since 2014.....
@Thevikingcam
@Thevikingcam 6 жыл бұрын
Not anymore.....
@dr.sommer5069
@dr.sommer5069 6 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
This video is in 4k. Sometimes KZbin takes more than 24 hours to process it, though.
@dr.sommer5069
@dr.sommer5069 6 жыл бұрын
@@TonyAndChelsea I think what Helmut tried to say was that you have told us the last 4 years how important 4k and redundancy is for your channel. Now you show us your new hd setup with one sd card for vlogging. I just dont know what I should think about you concerning that. Up to now you have been one of the few YTers who had been honest and reliable to the people. You see, now this is a problem....
@FrogFWK
@FrogFWK 6 жыл бұрын
confusing selfiestyle vlogging with studiowork? welcome to the resolute resolution-critics-club :D
@DeltaRoSigma
@DeltaRoSigma 2 жыл бұрын
2 minutes about the buttons..?
@5nanometers
@5nanometers 6 жыл бұрын
RIP Canon
@CraigRyan
@CraigRyan 5 жыл бұрын
As a trucker/vlogger shooting on the go with little time I've been frustrated with every camera I've tried: Panasonic G7, Sony 6300, 6500, Canon 80D, Sony a7Sii, Canon G7Xii. Of all those cameras the only one I really count on is the G7Xii. I'm going to try the R, it seems like it's made for vlogging in 1080/60. The Sony is cheaper (literally), but the stabilization is weak at best and I'm not ready to trust it's focusing for video. Thanks Tony!
@stephanes.
@stephanes. 6 жыл бұрын
So what we took for granted isn't no more... Canon doesn't even have the best AF.
@marioslrzn
@marioslrzn 6 жыл бұрын
Stéphane Sann I thought he said for video or if you’re vlogging the canon R was better at focusing. He said the Sony had better eye detection for portraits but the canon has that dual pixel AF for general photography . I like how you try to spin 😂
@mallred4347
@mallred4347 6 жыл бұрын
No that's not what he said at all. "For photography the A73 is clearly better AF" per Tony. Rewatch the entire video... He said the EOS R is photo mode feels like it's working like a video camera focusing for photos (sluggish) whereas the Sony was clearly just fast and accurate.
@stephanes.
@stephanes. 6 жыл бұрын
marioslrzn thanks for the clarification! I was trying to get fixed wether I choose a Canon or a Sony for the focus but what you're saying makes my choice really hard ahaha
@marioslrzn
@marioslrzn 6 жыл бұрын
M Allred he said in portrait mode the eye AF was acting like a video. But if you’re going by speed the Canon focus faster especially for photography. You can do single autopoint for portairt and set the Touch Bar to switch between AF and AFC
@marioslrzn
@marioslrzn 6 жыл бұрын
Stéphane Sann I’m buying the canon R, but Tony doesn’t want to put the Canon 50mm F1.2 vs the Sony G 50mm because the canon is the sharpest AF lens right now . I want him to compare the system, 50f1.2 vs GM 50mm. That will give us a more clearer picture of what’s to come from canon because we already know Sony can’t create any f1.2 AF lenses and they charge more than canon counterpart.
@camxiong
@camxiong 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought myself a EOS R this past weekend, such a joy to use.
@inferno72229
@inferno72229 6 жыл бұрын
Is this comparison necessary? I don't even need to watch the video to find out who the winner is
@johnbeddome2249
@johnbeddome2249 6 жыл бұрын
That was a great review but I think I missed the image color comparison. I hate the colors of the Sony (A7RIII) so much I’m about ready to go back to Canon and this would be the camera I might come back to, Anyone having the same issue?
@alexmeier19
@alexmeier19 6 жыл бұрын
I don't have a Sony but every video I see from them, I just hate the colors, especially the skin tones. I don't understand how people complain about 120fps which you probably use 5% of the time, but stand the skin tones which you have to stand through all your videos.
@Falcrist
@Falcrist 6 жыл бұрын
So Tony, let me know if I'm way off with this summary: The Sony wins for native lens selection, autofocus, video recording options, dynamic range, FPS, silent shooting. The Canon wins for overall lens selection (with the adapter), resolution, the image stabilization, and ergonomics (unless you're back-button focusing). Additionally: If I were doing professional work, the single card slot would make the Canon a non-starter. If I were vlogging, the lack of a flip-screen would make the Sony a non-starter. If I were just starting, the sony would definitely win the comparison, but if I had Canon lenses, I'd almost be FORCED to stick with Canon. I AM just starting. I DID pick the Sony. I have to say I'm pretty unhappy with my decision in that this is FAR too expensive a camera for me right now. However, I *_AM_* happy with it compared to the other new mirrorless cameras. Canon and Nikon both seem like they're going to be playing catchup for a few generations.
@MegaNardman
@MegaNardman 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like perhaps one of the Fujifilm cameras would be right for you?
@Falcrist
@Falcrist 6 жыл бұрын
Possibly, but it's a bit late for that lol. Mistakes were made...
@YurianRanch
@YurianRanch 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the analysis! Could you help me with something unrelated: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
@Atua_Moe
@Atua_Moe 6 жыл бұрын
From others I've heard the a7iii crops in 4k 30, but now I'm not sure 11:38. Does anyone know?
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 6 жыл бұрын
It crops just a little (1.2x I think). The Canon crops 1.8X.
@Atua_Moe
@Atua_Moe 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh I see, thanks for the info. Always love the honesty of your guys vids, keep it up!
@charbax
@charbax 6 жыл бұрын
Yes Sony crops at 4K30 and I think it also crops at 4K25, which is sad. Only no crop at 4K24. Even if 1.2x crop is a little of a crop, it's still crop and not a very good thing.
@Atua_Moe
@Atua_Moe 6 жыл бұрын
Charbax Especially when using a wide angle lens & trying to get as much in frame. Sony sony sony, whyyyy? I guess their holding off for a7siii
@robojimtv
@robojimtv 6 жыл бұрын
@@charbax I don't think any mirror less camera does zero-crop 4k. Only pro cinema cameras ATM. I'd imagine next generation of Sonys and Canons and Nikons will do full width though.
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