I just printed a 24-36 image on metal from Printique. The pixel panic thing is hilarious. Image is absolutely phenomenal 👍
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
I would not call it panic but it certainly stings a little when competitors offer more MP at lower cost. - but the more I use both R5 and R6 I don't really care of competitors do something better - the usability and feature set of these cameras is near perfect.
@WalterReichelt3 жыл бұрын
I assume you talked about inches, right? That would 61 -91cm. That would be incredible !
@lindsaywebb19043 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I've seen this commentary all over the place. Buy better lenses folks
@eldanno59703 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty crazy that people make such a big deal about mp. Canons flagship is 20mp and it’s built for those making a living from their photography, seems to me it’s mainly amateurs that worry so much about it. 20mp is plenty for what this camera is designed for
@NJM19483 жыл бұрын
Missed the point a little I'm afraid. I'm sure that the R6 will produce excellent results and won't have an issue with a 24 x36.....but was it cropped? This is the issue that most defenders of the 20mp sensor seem to ignore. There are a lot of photographers who crop in on small subjects that can't be got close to. That is what will be the deal breaker for many. I would love to see a youtube vid showing OOC and cropped images printed at your size and see what the results are.
@JohnDrummondPhoto3 жыл бұрын
As a 5D Mark IV owner, amateur nature photographer, and new KZbinr, I recently bought an R6 and put it to the test against the 5DM4 for landscapes. I must echo every point you made. The R6 photos are virtually indistinguishable in quality from the 5DM4 unless you really pixel peep. I could comfortably print them to 13" x 19", maybe a little bigger. And video? No question. I shot the comparison video with it exclusively. I wish the R6 had the 30 MP of the 5DM4 but I think I'll get over it; it's so fun to use.
@myhappygecko28953 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comment I also have both but I've not tried to compare I was too afraid I would get mad lol.
@paullanoue52283 жыл бұрын
The megapixel complaint in the world of Instagram is hilarious. How many people make large prints today? How many people even own a printer? I can make excellent 20x30inch prints from a twenty MP sensor. I’ve made 24X36 inch prints from a 21mp sensor and no one ever complained. The 1Dx mk III has the same sensor. The camera used for NFL football and NBA basketball. Yes if you zoom in 400x you would see a difference. You ever see someone look a large print with a magnifying glass? I never have. This camera is not for high end advertising photographers that make images for the side of buses. For 98% of the world it will make excellent images.
@morbly3 жыл бұрын
I crop significantly with pictures of small birds and have found the 30 megapixels of the EOS R to be a definite benefit over my old 6D. Instagram really isn’t my thing (many images only get viewed for a second or possibly less, and then never again, it’s totally devalued photography) and yes I occasionally sell prints. The 6D’s images printed large just fine too though. Honestly if you’re shooting for instagram why are you bothering with a DSLR, you might as well get an rx100 or just use your phone.
@patrikmarcan3 жыл бұрын
@@morbly that's why there is R6 and R5, for people to chose....if you need more megapixels R5 is for you, if you don't R6 is perfectly fine
@mikewinburn3 жыл бұрын
don't forget, paul, no one needs a 975 bhp GT for street use (like a LaFarrari, or Dodge Demon, P1...) etc, but it surely is nice to know you CAN use that HP if you wanted to :) - just my 2 cents thought :)
@GiuseppePipia3 жыл бұрын
Stop thinking that high megapixels means only better prints. They do serve multiple scopes: they let you crop in post with greater flexibility to isolate the subject, great features for the street photographer for Instagram, where s/he can post a tiny crop without losing quality. They could be used for timelapse photography, being able to serve great looking 4k clips and even higher resolutions. More megapixels also mean better quality on reduced artifacts such as noise and chromatic aberration, without using adjustements in post that no matter what decrease over all quality. Will nobody ever notice? Sure, but some moments are not repeatable and you can't make other people adjust to your taste. Besides that. It is ridiculous that the R6 has less megapixels than the entry level RP. A better count would have been 26 or even 28 megapixels. Especially since it doesn't SHINE in low light performance, like the S series by Sony.
@GiuseppePipia3 жыл бұрын
@@morbly There are still reasons why you shoot with an interchangeable lens camera for instagram: because that is only one of the places the photo will end up. Because that photo might end up printed in some ways, or even featured in a video, or however the creator wishes to do. I use the 70D and I share most of my photos on IG. But I've also printed some of them. Sometimes I do photo-gigs. Sometimes time lapses that I've sold. I need an interchangeable lens, that also lets me have more megapixels to play with and the options to create without limitations. What's wrong with it?
@JaredHoyman3 жыл бұрын
I picked up the R6 on release and as a full time professional architectural/real estate photographer/videographer I was a little nervous, but really wanted to eliminate using my GH5 as my second camera and do everything in one camera setup. Just about 2 months and 150 houses later I have not had it over heat once on the job and that was 4k 60 walk throughs after I spent about 45min photographing the home first. As for megapixels I use DNG converter to take the RAW and shrink it to 8mp for easy sharing with my editors so the 20mp has been great. I still use my EOS R for anything that would need higher megapixels. If you are in real estate photography I would say this camera is perfect. For long interviews you may want a external recorder, but for video walk through's I have not had any overheating issues with internal 4k 60fps. I've been compiling footage over the last few months and hope to give my two cents on the camera in real world use. Thanks Toby! Keep up the good work on your channel.
@zachsteinbach3 жыл бұрын
I will keep an eye out for your video. Please include your R6 settings for the video walkthroughs (IBIS on or off, picture profile, etc).
@ungkey7753 жыл бұрын
What lens u use? And hdr edit or single shot?
@JaredHoyman3 жыл бұрын
@@ungkey775 up until a couple months ago I used samyang 14mm rf and was pleased with it. I moved to the canon 15-35 rf and extremely happy with my work flow. I shoot multiple brackets and HDR process.
@ungkey7753 жыл бұрын
@@JaredHoyman similar to what I use. I've been using a 10-22 Canon lens on aps-c. And bracketing 3 hdr in lightroom.
@carriedoyle50173 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a thorough review! I just purchased the R6 as an upgrade to my (12 mp) Nikon D3, and I'm just thrilled. 20 mp is a great upgrade, quality entry into mirrorless, way less expensive than what I paid for my D3 13 years ago, auto-focus and eye-detection is awesome, photos are amazingly sharp, and I don't need 45 mp slowing everything down.
@frankanderson50123 жыл бұрын
What a great way to describe it. Psychologically Disappointed. When I got my 6D I thought the image quality of the 20 megapixel was great, still do and the R6 is replacing that for my landscape work and 80D for wildlife of which it will also outperform in every way, except for that crop ‘reach’ and psychological megapixel difference.
@sonicvboom2 жыл бұрын
@Mozzman One may miss out on the reach, but we definitely gain on the tact-sharp eye detect with over 85% hit-rate thanks to IBIS. 😊 Oh yes, lets not forget the 12 FPS mechanical.
@nogerboher52662 жыл бұрын
I don't think that professionals who own a D5, D6, 1DXll or 1DXlll are ''psychologically disappointed.'' There's a good reason why top of the line cameras have 20-22 MP sensors. If you EVER need to crop SO MUCH that a 20 MP image isn't enough for you, then you're doing something wrong in regards to your composition and framing. I'd rather have a 16 MP sensor that produces images as good as the Canons 1DXlll, than have a 62MP a7RIV from Sony that produces neon color images that look fake and digital.
@johngalt20713 жыл бұрын
I have the R and the R6. I honestly don't miss the extra pixels, at all.
@sherelpacker6902 жыл бұрын
I am debating for long time whether to upgrade from RP to R6. I think that this clip convinced me that I should.
@ResurrectedBrush2 жыл бұрын
While I know there will always be a megapixel race, I feel like the higher megapixels is equally a psychological game. I shoot weddings. As a high volume photographer, I feel like the 20-24 megapixel range is the sweet spot, and within that range, the difference is negligible at best. File sizes are still big enough for reasonable cropping, without compromising the size of the files I deliver to my clients. But the biggest benefit is the workflow. I have a pretty high end laptop and desktop machine. Even so, I've worked with 40+mp files and the slowdown across the board (transferring to computer, importing, generating full size previews, exporting) is a HUGE loss of money (time=money) in my workflow. And all for a size of file that doesn't really benefit me a significant amount. 20-24mp is large enough in number of pixels to work with, and small enough in file size to work with. Now obviously, if I were a lower volume shooter (say just portraits), I might sing a different tune about the R5's 45mp... but for what I do, it's pure overkill.
@77dris Жыл бұрын
I recently found a guy who took side by side shots with the R5 and R6. I downloaded the raws of portraits, studio shots, and landscape shots using the best and sharpest Canon RF lenses. I opened the images in Adobe Camera Raw and output the R6 to 45 MP. In a "blind" comparison, viewed at 100% on a 5K monitor, I couldn't tell which was which most of the time. I later used the ACR "enhance" feature to quadruple the R6 resolution, then used ACR to output at 45 MP, and 9 times out of 10, the R6 files looked better/sharper than the native 45 MP R5 files. I can't remember which website showed that the R6 actually outresolves the 30 MP EOS R, perhaps due to a weaker AA filter. So yes, I do agree that MP is a psychological game. Also, in 15 years of pro photography, I rarely crop images (never more than maybe 5% at most when I do).
@nmills26053 жыл бұрын
I upgraded to the R6 from the R. I was a bit hesitant with the drop in resolution but once I got it and started reviewing the pictures, it's not an issue at all. The pictures are fantastic. Really pleased with it so far. p.s. Nice review 😁
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick and appreciate the insight.
@jaykeystone3 жыл бұрын
I'm a sports photographer and I've been using the 7D mk2 with a 20MP sensor for years. Since getting the R6, I have had to adjust to the crop difference, but I'm used to the image size and workflow. I have used an EOS R for video and other photo work for about a year, but this new R6 is a different tool for a different purpose. I agree that people replacing an EOS R or 6D/5D may be bummed with the sensor size, but the focus improvements and price differential from the R5 make it perfect for photographing runners!
@groundhoppingwlkp36223 жыл бұрын
Same, I use 7d2 for sports and I will go to R6 next year. The only problem is a price of the great RF lenses (28-70 f2...) :/
@blazeboy7773 жыл бұрын
@@groundhoppingwlkp3622 it's not a problem, glass like this never existed before, so if you didn't need it then, you don't need it now when you camera has better iso performance at 12.800 than 7d had at 800-
@groundhoppingwlkp36223 жыл бұрын
@@blazeboy777 so when planes didn't existed fast travelling around the world wasn't the problem? On most indoor sports I use 1/500s to 1/1000s and F2.8. with 6400 ISO (max useful for C7mk2) and it surely could be better. If i had F2.0 i could use iso 3200 or even 1/2000s on 6400-12800 iso. So yes - it would be useful to have F2.0 - but price tag is way to high.
@blazeboy7773 жыл бұрын
@@groundhoppingwlkp3622 I've meant most upgrades you will get from switching a camera, much more than one stop you gain from 28-70 f2 which is quite soft at f2, very heavy glass, quite fat, ect. I would suggest you rent it first. And this glass is hardly important as planes, but more like a car going 200 mph instead of 175 mph. Useful but not groundbreaking.
@sonicvboom3 жыл бұрын
"The new R6 is a different tool for a different purpose"...? Kindly expand on that? Also, what do you mean by you "have had to adjust to the crop difference" since owning the R6? I thought both the R6 and the R are full-frame sensors? Or is it because the R has 10 more mega-pixels to work with?
@naordaniel3 жыл бұрын
I know a reviewer is doing a great job when I'm able to listen for the whole review without being distracted and also understanding every point mentioned, beautiful work.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@williamphillips22393 жыл бұрын
First ...thanks for such a great, thorough review! I've been hearing the more mega-pixel has to be better delusion for nearly 2 decades. Though, in general, more megapixels are a plus .. there are far more factors to get a sharp, high-resolution image from a camera than just the purported MP count of a camera. I started shooting DSLRs back in the early days when we professional photographers were just switching over to digital DSLRs. My first venture was the original Canon EOS Rebel back in 2003! (was shooting with a Nikon F5 and F100 back-up film camera) It only had a 6MP crop-sensor but at low ISOs could produce beautiful photos. I remember hearing about the Kodak DSLR that touted 12MP or so ...and most accounts said the images it produced were horrible! How can that be, I thought? Quickly I learned that the camera's image processor was far more important than the total number of MPs. Another extremely important factor ...even more so than the camera body ...is the glass you attach to your camera body! In fact ...most reviews and consensus from pros is that the glass/lens is more important than the camera when it comes to image quality. ....Now fast forward from 2003 to today's DSLRs. Advances have grown by leaps and bounds on DSLRs in every aspect ...and now in mirrorless cameras. I've owned both the 7D and 7D MkII (still own) and the MkII was a major improvement in every area "except" for one ...image quality at high ISOs, IMO. Cramming more pixels onto the same size sensor doesn't ALWAYS mean improved images, especially at high ISOs. My 40D @ 10.1MP ... which I owned, years ago, produced stunning images with a great dynamic range over anything I owned up to that point (moving from the 20D & 30D)! Having read several reviews of the R6 ...and this one as well have convinced me that traded my 5D MkIV in to get an R6 is a smart move FOR ME. I wish I could afford an R5 but sadly I can't justify it at this time. I'm predominantly doing Real Estate Photography (semi-retired) and I think the R6 will serve me far better, than any other alternative for an EOS with an articulating view screen ...to use with my EF 17-40L lens. Hopefully, my EF 70-300L will function well too. I hope to trade that up to the EF 100-400 VII when able and this review convinced me that the R6 will work well with that lens! Now I just need to find a MkIV buyer who will give me a decent price for my low shutter count like-new 5D!
@soak0003 жыл бұрын
The 20MP sensor allows for higher ISO noise reduction. I shoot sports with a 1DXII and the 20MP sensor produces crisp images, even after tight crop. On the flip side, the 90D I use for wildlife is pathetic when it comes to high ISO due to high mega pixels in a crop body. Images need extra TLC over ISO 800 on the 90D.
@csadler3 жыл бұрын
Avid birder here and I just agonized over switching to the R6 from my trusty D500. Nikon shooter for 25 years. I love the R6 for birds. I feel I have a path forward with Canon, one that I think is not there for Nikon. I loved Nikon, there cameras are so reliable. Oh well!!! Canon guy now. R6 with a Sigma sport 150-600, Cannon glass to come. Looked at the R5 but its not the birding camera the R6 is. Megapixel - smegapixel, 20 is fine for me.
@Acorable3 жыл бұрын
Your explanation of the psychologically disappointing megapixels is spot on! Thank you for this amazing review.
@videosuperhighway76553 жыл бұрын
I hope 20mp sensors stay around. I prefer 14-15 stops of DR and more exposure latitude vs a high mp sensor with smaller buckets to collect light.
@village_mayor3 жыл бұрын
It's not 45mp so you can't crop the photo, but many reviewers including myself can crop the photo decently enough. What you fail to mention is because it is 20mp, it teaches you to frame the photo better. . But you did make a point about doing what Panasonic did with stacking multiple photos so you have a larger photo size to work with. That is something Canon could have done to compensate for the low mp. Other than that, the review is spot on.
@Vincenade3 жыл бұрын
I FULLY agree on your comment regarding the framing... don't be lazy : try to frame a little better : you will save a lot of bucks from R5, highly costed cards, huuuge transfers of gigabytes, and maybe save you from purchasing a new PC/Mac that allows quicker processing of 50Mb files... now, I am only a photographer, not a video shooter.. so, no need to 8k...
@village_mayor3 жыл бұрын
@@Vincenade Thank you! My friend who is also a KZbinr has the R5, attributes the R5 to a machine gun. Randomly shoot photos but the aim is nowhere. Unlike us using the R6, we are snipers as we precisely focus on the subject. And I agree, I have a decent computer but transferring a 4k 60 fps that is 1.5 mins but 3.3 GB!! I don't know what to do with the file now! Imagine 8k...
@digitalvizun56783 жыл бұрын
Just got the R6 and have a week to decide if I'm going to keep it. So far I've been using it like my R shooting 4k 60fps and photos for a family outing at the orchard for 3hrs at 78 farenheit and did not get any overheating. I do use a sleep button when I'm not shooting, a routine I do ever since I got the R. The eye auto focus is at another level than the R. So far I think it will be a keeper. Great video as I have reached the same conclusion after using it for a few days.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the real word experience.
@MariaElaine05163 жыл бұрын
Did you decide to keep it?
@digitalvizun56783 жыл бұрын
@@MariaElaine0516 Yes I did and sold my eos r. I didn't want to use the r anymore because the R6's eye auto focus and tracking is next level. Also the video is usable at 25600 iso. I plan on using this for my friend's wedding coming photo/video (I consider myself an amateur). Now that I'm used to 4k 60fps...I hardly use 1080p anymore. So it has been great for my needs. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@TheFoxwiz3 жыл бұрын
Love the AF performance with the R6. Looks like you helped with my decision. Thanks!
@juangomez7492 жыл бұрын
I´m a wedding photographer and I still do all my work on the mRaw (9mp) mode. I never had any problem with my clients about the size of the files, and I save a lot of storage working this way. Recently I purchase a canon R6 and I wish to have my mRaw mode back
@sshus9243 жыл бұрын
Very excellent review and confirmed my decision to trade to the R6 from my 5D MK IV, although my six years with the 5D MK IV were faultless!
@kenmaier68703 жыл бұрын
To me the 20MP when taking birds in flight and needing some crop is likely a show stopper. What do R6 owners think? Toby - great video. Thx
@kennethlui22683 жыл бұрын
For bird/wildlife, R5 45 mp is way better as cropping is needed all the time.
@aussie81143 жыл бұрын
R5
@DalsPhotography3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethlui2268 I agree with you on this point!
@echosierraenroute3 жыл бұрын
get a 90D for that
@kenmaier68703 жыл бұрын
the 90d AF is nowhere near as good as my 7D2
@NameNaameNameeNaamee3 жыл бұрын
It's just amazing how succeptible the photo community is towards spec sheet BS. It seems that even seasoned photographers have no clue what those numbers actually mean and they can't help themselves from babbling on and on and how it feels bla bla. It's like car dealers, talking about motor torque, while completely ignoring that this number has little to do with what actually arrives at your wheels, since it's the combination of motor, transmission, weight etc. that decides over the driving experience. Or audio geeks nerding out, stating that more neutral is always better, which as a general statement simply is not correct and most of all is only one aspect of a plethora of things involved in achieving a good sound. I worked as a professional photographer for years - and yes, I would count myself among those people who know shit about the technical underpinnings of a camera or a lens. But I can tell you this: I cropped the heck out of 20MP images and even 16MP images and not only got I fantastic results, but I earned good money with it. And yes, I had clients print those shots on big banners and stuff - no problem at all. Especially in a day and age where most pictures will never be seen bigger than at 4K (which is equivalent to 8,3MP), it is just ridiculous to complain about a 20MP camera. Furthermore, the MP count itself is completely pointless concerning image quality, since it's the actual resolution that counts, and that has much more to do with the actual QÙALITY of the sensor. Concerning the R6, I hear a lot of BS about how it is inferior to cameras in the 24MP class like the Sony A7iii or the Nikon Z6. Now, if you look at resolution tests of those three, you will find that the R6 has no problem whatsoever to keep up. Concerning the edges and corners of the image, even at base ISO it actually is better than both. At higher ISOs, the R6 is considerably better than the other two all around and even better than the Eos R, which has 30MP. There is a reason why pros have no problems with using the 1DXiii - 20 MP are ENOUGH. Personally, I'll take a good 20MP sensor over a mediocre 24 or 30MP sensor all day. Add to that the better AF performance in low light - and there you go. Last but not least, stating that the image quality in general is not quite on par with Nikon and Sony is just complete BS. They actually don't hold a candle against the R6. It just looks better, warmer, with more dimension.
@rgreeneish3 жыл бұрын
This review has really helped me. I'm starting to gain a small collection of used Canon bodies, I might need to sell them all to get this one. Currently have a 5dMiii, original 1DX and an Eos R It would just about be an even swap. Something I will have to consider.
@sunfirefilms0002 жыл бұрын
less megapixels is actually a big perk for us lowlight and nightlife photographers. It was actually a huge selling point for me to buy this model.
@deebea63643 жыл бұрын
I got 2 x R5’s ... definitely feels like a natural progression from the 5d4, been really loving work with them - no overheating issues for photos at all, although, if you shoot photos for a while then switch to 4K 120 you may already be too hot for that type of video ... more likely to be able to do 4K HQ or 8K, one nice thing about the R5 is being able to crop from landscape to portrait and still having a 19.9 MP image. It’s mechanical shutter is also rated to 500,000 shots, vs 300,000 on the R6- really I feel like both cameras have all the big features that we could want for a long time
@2lomp3 жыл бұрын
A very easy to follow review as I am looking at making a purchase of the R6. Your explanation and detail is very easy to follow and has driven me more in the positive direction. Thanx for the video 👍
@FreeWillPhotos3 жыл бұрын
I love the R6 so far. As a photographer already invested into the Canon ECO System of lens and accessories this is a no-brainer purchase. I would note this has not made me a better photographer, I have just enjoyed creating with it more than my EOS R. Plus it has IBIS. Great review though.
@staLkerhu3 жыл бұрын
Well, for a 2400 USD body only I wouldn't say "no-brainer". In my country the mark 1 Sony A7 body is still available for 870 USD. Maybe this body is a bit old, has its flaws, some say horrible to use, 300 pics/battery max, but still a Full Frame camera with great image quality and low light performance in APS-C price range. This is what "no-brainer" stands for in my book.
@FreeWillPhotos3 жыл бұрын
@@staLkerhu no disagreement here. I just think this is a huge improvement and since I switched from Nikon to Canon in 2019, for me it was a simple choice. I will admit the price is steep, but was factored into my upgrading cost when I switched from Nikon.
@sonicvboom3 жыл бұрын
What makes the R6 more "enjoyable" to create/ use more than the R?
@FreeWillPhotos3 жыл бұрын
@@sonicvboom Built in image stabilization is a huge factor, but putting that aside, having two card slots gives me comfort knowing that I can shoot redundant when I go on out of state or even long day shoots. Some of the other features I enjoy is being able to confiure my "*" button on the back to toggle on eye autofocus without having to switch it manually. But I think a feautre that is available in the R6 that was not in the EOS R is the ability to shoot focus bracketed images. I am just not exploring this option, but I really enjoy using it when I am shooting macro shots for fun.
@gohumberto Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean about the 20Mp. I would have just expected the baseline, at this price, to be 30Mp. My 6D has 20Mp and is 10 years old, a lifetime in technology terms. 20Mp has always proved enough for me. I don't shoot wildlife though. I would expect that the ability to crop, whilst retaining detail, is a huge bonus for Wildlife photographers ... especially considering the price of "Wildlife Glass". I expect I'll wait a few years and pick one of these up, used, for half price. I'm sure it's amazing.
@patlezinc3 жыл бұрын
Psychology is... psychology. It concerns things that exist only in your mind. In other word, unreal. So, get the R6 and forget mp. 20mp is enough for a 1x1,5m poster. If you really care, take the R5 😋
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@bedevere0073 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the Canon R6 have No Optical low-pass (anti-aliasing) filter to make image quality sharper?
@thurstonhowell35693 жыл бұрын
I've gone from EOS 6D Mk2 26 megapixels to R6 20 megapixels and I am more than happy with my R6's. Don't forget, its not the size that matters , its what you do with it that counts!
@paulvanderwalfotografie17763 жыл бұрын
Thnx allot for this review, it really made me decide i want this R6 to be my camera besides my 5Dm4 and replace my 5Dm3.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@trouwfotomakerij2 жыл бұрын
6:20 - 6:30 This was fixed in firmware 1.5.0 - Video recording to both cards simultaneously is now possible.
@JackyLi3 жыл бұрын
Great view overall! Like you mentioned the RF glasses basically makes the "less" expensive cameras a expensive investment. Even the native EF mounts are still expensive. I am still considering the R6, but with Sigma lenses for the EF mount. I am worried about how they would perform though....
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
I hope to test some sigma glass on an adapter soon. Thanks!
@MariaElaine05163 жыл бұрын
I own EF lenses for my T6i (which is a crop sensor) and recently ordered R6. I heard using EF lenses on an RF camera will make the images as if it was crop. I will have to see for myself though.
@deanrodgers36943 жыл бұрын
With counseling you should be able to transcend the 20mp thing. Coming from flagship DSLRs, it isn’t a problem.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
Totally true but when you have a handful of cameras on the market and they offer more mps for less $$ some consumers are going to be turned off.
@nicolecole23103 жыл бұрын
Dean Rodgers that was 😂 maybe Canon will foot the bill. I see a class action lawsuit coming lol
@deanrodgers36943 жыл бұрын
@@photorectoby I'm upgrading from a 16mp Nikon D4 I've had and loved for the better part of a decade. For the same $$ as I could spend on a D6, I can get the R6 AND the R5 and use each at the appropriate time. Which is exactly what I'm gonna did. Better and even more better. Sad to leave Nikon though.
@BrekoTa3 жыл бұрын
Funny that 20+ MPx count is considered a negative in a camera nowadays. I remember printing one picture i really liked 7 years ago, taken with my Nikon D3000 (10 mpix), straight out of camera, unedited jpg (at that time i did not even know how editing works), sent it to lab, had them print it 75 * 50cm, i still have that print hang up on my wall, still looking perfect, not a single time i thought of a "low quality" of the print or something. I do own R6 now, and it is just a killer camera.
@jubjuber13 жыл бұрын
id go as far to say the performance of EF lens with adapter on r6 is far better than on EF body. my hit rate with the 85 f/1.2 has gone up a ton since upgrading. and i can actually shoot moving stuff a bit with it. compared the 5d3 where that just was impossible to nail every time
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I appreciate that feedback.
@Stop-All-War11 ай бұрын
People focusing on cropping photos need to revise their composition skills.
@tigranharutyunyan76743 жыл бұрын
20mp was never an issue on 6d. One of cleanest sensors.
@jimhanner20913 жыл бұрын
My R6 will even track the eye of Archer on my computer monitor. He looks to be a great dog at helping with your vids.
@wangamtlokwa87243 жыл бұрын
why is it disappointing for the R6 with 20 megapixel but its not disappointing for the 1Dxiii?, it doesn’t make sense to criticise it at that price point considering it has the best low light capability
@shaolin952 жыл бұрын
Yep it's just silly
@markgriffinphoto3 жыл бұрын
Very nice review thanks. Totally agree and waiting for the two I ordered!!
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
Awesome - Enjoy!
@shibin912k3 жыл бұрын
Nice review! But just to remind that the high-end 1dx Mark iii is stil 20.1MP,(7400USD).It gives me peace of mind!
@JH-qv3xv3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another informative and keeping things in perspective video.
@Andy_Thomas3 жыл бұрын
My concern with the 20MP sensor is when it comes to wildlife photography. I find that I very often need to crop the original. 20MP really does not give you much scope to do that. Has anybody had experience with using the R6 for wildlife photography? What are your experiences with cropping? (Oh, and simply upgrading to the R5 to get the extra 25MP is not an option for me - and I suspect many others - for financial reasons)
@TheFoxwiz3 жыл бұрын
I do wildlife and bird photography using a D500 which is a 20MP camera. Can do some cropping and it really isn't a problem.
@dimitristsagdis73403 жыл бұрын
@@TheFoxwiz the D500 is a crop sensor so it has almost twice the pixel density than a FF 20 Mp sensor. So yes you can of course crop more aggressively. 20 Mp are not good for cropping plain and simple. I have the 6D and 7DII both 20Mp one is crop the other FF and it is night and day cropping even when seen on a 27 inch monitor.
@TheFoxwiz3 жыл бұрын
@@dimitristsagdis7340 Thanks for the clarification.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
This is a slight concern of mine. While 20MP is fine for so much of what we all shoot - if you are primarily wildlife and you aren't shooting with the massive 600 and 800 mm and longer lenses - you might be disappointed. When I shoot wildlife with my Sony a7riii and 100-400 - I crop EVERY photo to get closer to my subject.
@T-Slider3 жыл бұрын
Is it’s prints at 17x20 just as good as the R5’s as long as you don’t need to crop? How would it do as a portrait camera, again without cropping?
@thepauldineen3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. New subscriber. I'm an amateur sports photographer, currently using a 7D and 7D2, tempted by the R6. For shutter speeds around 1/1000, we turn (in lens) image stabilization off. Is the same recommended with IBIS?
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
H i Paul, I appreciate the sub. I haven't done enough research yet to decide on an answer. I know in my Sony I leave it on 100% of the time and don't see any negative impacts.
@wergraphy4220 Жыл бұрын
9:38 I have a 6d MkII with 26MP and I'm thinking about getting the R6 but the 20mp is somehow a big no for me and I dont understand why Canon did this. The R5 is not in my Budget... Now I dont really know what to do. Maybe sell my Canon Gear and take the Sony Alpha 7iv?
@videosuperhighway76553 жыл бұрын
It has the same amazing 20mp sensor from the 1dx markiii. Also bigger pixels on lower megapixel which means more dynamic range. More mp on same sensor = smaller buckets to collect light photons vs 20mp. There are tradeoffs. 20mp more than outperforms 35mm film resolving power.
@GregThurtle3 жыл бұрын
nice review Toby - good to see you back
@keaixiaomeinv3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! "Psychologically disappointing" perfectly sums up my feelings for this camera as I am choosing a replacement for my 6D. I know that 20 megapixels will be enough for just about everything I will ever do. But there's always that "what if?", especially if I botch the composition and need to crop a lot. But paying almost twice for the R5 seems like an overkill.
@trainguy10172 жыл бұрын
Getting ready to upgrade from the 6D as well. It's been a great camera but the R6 is looking to be an awesome change!
@OkwyUgonweze3 жыл бұрын
Canon is at full force. They are actually moving away from the park with the lenses. 28-70 f2, 85 1.2, 135 1.4,70-135 f2, these are unique and statement making lenses.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
They are certainly statement making lenses. I am not sure how well they sell but I am happy with the number of quality lenses and would like to see a few more in the affordable range. f/4 versions.
@trainguy10172 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review! I'm planning to upgrade to the R6 from my 5-ish year old 6d and the more reviews I watch, the easier the decision is becoming to go with the R6. It seems to have a few minor negatives but everything does.
@JustBob-sw4rf3 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent review of this camera and I’ve watched a bunch.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Bob! I really appreciate that!
@craigcarlson40223 жыл бұрын
Great review. I'm agonizing over this decision at the moment, having just returned a Canon RP due to finding its dynamic range really disappointing.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
It is definitely improved in this sensor over the RP. The RP uses an older sensor of Canon and they hit a sweet price but at too many sacrifices in my opinion.
@mikek78153 жыл бұрын
Coming from a 7d2, i am looking fwd to getting a R6
@hellmoth2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant camera. Does everything I need it to do. 20 megapixels is ample.
@tuxxie23 жыл бұрын
I've listened to many of your videos over several years. My impression is that you are a Sony enthusiast and supporter. In contrast, the review of this camera was lacking in general terms. R6 videos I've watched and done by others were more comprehensive and explored its qualities to a greater extent. My thoughts are simple. Given those earlier words about Sony, it seems to me you would best serve your followers by only talking about Sony cameras.
@shaolin952 жыл бұрын
Yes it's very obvious. Even when talking about the AF he calls is "very good". If it was Sony he would have been saying amazing, fantastic etc
@mikedixonphoto3 жыл бұрын
Now that you've looked at the R6, how do you think the RP compares for video? I'm most interested in 1080p, maybe a little 4k, mostly nature and wildlife KZbin type of videos (no raw video or crazy stuff). The RP is significantly less at just $999. I have a 5D mk IV for stills. I also have an M100, but it doesn't have mic input. I'm looking at getting something to do video and as a backup for stills.
@Jaktgbabu2 жыл бұрын
I have taken 👍🏻 one 🙏🏻
@samthechulo3562 жыл бұрын
I currently am shooting with a Canon Rebel T7i. I’m trying to get into shooting sports but this camera is no where near fast enough. Would you recommend a switch to the Canon R6 for photography or the Sony A7iii
@earlmccowen51973 жыл бұрын
You have done a very good job with this video. Clear, concise and with some humor. You addressed all my questions and concerns about whether I should buy the R6 versus the R5. Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work. I liked and subscribed!
@orchid91622 жыл бұрын
Hi sir which camera best canon eos r6 & sony a73
@phynx20063 жыл бұрын
The pizza at the end sold me on the R6 🍕🤣🤣🤣 Great review👍👍
@Lepewhi2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to get the RP. What do you think of it? Thx
@bronking88093 жыл бұрын
Great review - thanks. I have a 5D3 and 7D2 the latter of which I use daily to take insect/spider macro stills handheld in the field for scientific publications (field guides etc) and birds (fun). The 7's getting old, and isn't going to be replaced. For macro the 7 cropped sensor works really well to see and photograph the subject - better than full frame. I'll have to replace the 7, so wonder have you done macro tests with both R6 and R5? I use a Canon ring flash. I'm retired and all my work is voluntary, so I can't afford to try before I buy and no one seems to test for macro. Please help. Cheers!
@lawrencetrinkaus81303 жыл бұрын
Great video. Did you shoot this blog with the Canon R6 or with another video camera?
@andreaspahan95783 жыл бұрын
thanks for this great review! quick question...would you recommend shooting: R6 with a Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM Contemporary Lens for Canon EF ($900) with a Canon Adapter Canon Mount Adapter EF-EOS R ($99) or spending a LOT more money and getting the new Canon RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1L IS USM Lens ($2700)? I only shoot outside and use natural light (mostly beach) Thanks for helping out!
@ValiRossi3 жыл бұрын
I will purchase the R6 specifically because it has 20 mega pixels. Lens resolution much?
@marioplus3213 жыл бұрын
Soon, it'll occur 16mpx cameras are enough. I don't say they aren't, but I remember the discussion on Olympus and Panasonic cameras and their >small number< of pixels.
@gordonkoh88943 жыл бұрын
Excellent review and really enjoyable video to watch
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gordon! I really appreciate that!
@melodyphillips23882 жыл бұрын
After having the R6 for a while, have you seen any issues with the hot shoe coming loose?
@ToobaTime063 жыл бұрын
So I shoot mainly wildlife and landscapes and I currently own a 7d mk II and a Rebel T3i. I’ve been considering upgrading and I’m trying to decide between the 5ds R and the R6. I’m really impressed with R6 focusing system, but the recent price drop on the 5ds R has thrown a wrench into my thought process. Which would you upgrade to?
@hungvu16763 жыл бұрын
As a wedding photographer, I like R6 spec. 20MB is good enough. Too bad that R6 not in stock at all
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
It continues to be hard to order.
@simonjpierce3 жыл бұрын
Yay, Toby's back! Great review. Random question: what do you use to film your EVF, like the AF segment here? It's very cool.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and I use a little USB hdmi input on my laptop. I many reviewers use atmos ninjas.
@simonjpierce3 жыл бұрын
@@photorectoby Thanks Toby! Much appreciated.
@GiuseppePipia3 жыл бұрын
Coming from a 70D, and being always certain that Canon in 2020 would have given 4k in a spectacular manner (Sony and Panasonic were underdogs that gambled hard in 2013 introducing 4k to the masses and they were right: Canon had always planned 2020 as the year they would finally give 4k, because they would have introduce 8k. Same thing that happened in 2012, when they introduced 4k in the EOS 1D-C and then the FULLHD was available to ALL the other cameras), I'm certainly attracted by the R6. It would be a nice upgrade, but, three things (plus two) are making me want to wait for a couple years more. The megapixel count: coming from the 70D that already has 20megapixel, I would like to upgrade to something like 26 or even 28 megapixel. The 90D, which is half the price, has almost 33 megapixels. The RP, which is even cheaper than the 90D and is the entry level R camera has 26 megapixels. You didn't talk about the ISO performance, which Canon advertises as "high standard". Might be, but would have loved more megapixels with a stabilized sensor!!! (A STABILIZED SENSOR FROM CANON!!!). The video features: yes, even if there is 4k60p, it lacks the ALL-I compression, that Canon has decided to make it a "premium feature". My 70D has it! And also the firmware (I suppose) limitation of not recording to both SD cards simultaneously! I have been burned once of missing video due to a corrupted card. I don't want to repeat the experience with a new camera. The other two reasons are: first I'm still hoping that there will be an R camera with an APS-C sensor. Canon wouldn't relegate that sensor only to the M mount. They "just" released the 90D, so it will take at least the cycle of that camera before that happens. Perhaps even at a new iteration of their full-frame cameras. The other is that I still would like to expand my lens collection with nicer glass to use readily onto the new body. Over all though I'm more and more hopeful.
@madmanjoe2 жыл бұрын
I think the psychological dissapointment is mitigated by the fact that it has the same (or very similar) sensor as the 1dx mkiii, which is like 3 times more expensive.
@mikkirurk1 Жыл бұрын
Images from 1DX ll, 1DX lll and R6 are literally indistinguishable up to 12800 ISO, where R6 has a tiny advantage in noise level. I used dpreview image comparison tool - very potent stuff. As much as I`d love to get myself used 1DX ll - I will probably go with R6.
@TimLucasdesign3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review - thanks Toby!
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@regnismada49362 жыл бұрын
great review. appreciate the hard work
@lisabirdluvr97422 жыл бұрын
What about cropping for small birds with 20mp on the R6? I have 5div now with 30.4mp and I love it but need to drop some gear weight due to health issues. Looking at R6 with 100-500 lens. What are your thoughts?
@srvn353 жыл бұрын
Hi.. canon EOS R6 or canon 5D mark IV which camera is best
@barryobrien18903 жыл бұрын
I am a little disappointed in the way it underexposed faces in backlit scenes in video. I noticed this in your video. Any fix for this yet Thanks for posting this video
@hautehussey3 жыл бұрын
Exposure compensation.
@myhappygecko28953 жыл бұрын
Honestly the skinnier neck strap is a slap in the face to go along with that phycological disappointment lol. I have no idea why they did it, so bizarre.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
They made a secret deal with peak design to get a cut of the fat strap sales :)
@myhappygecko28952 жыл бұрын
@@photorectoby lol
@craigcarlson40223 жыл бұрын
Toby, a very helpful review, thanks. Have you been able to use both the new rf24-105 f/4 and 24-70 f/2.8 to comment on whether the 24-70 improves enough on the R6’s landscape image quality to recommend that lens over the rf24-105? It costs quite a bit more. (And again, i am considering its use just for landscape use. Craig
@paulwallace43323 жыл бұрын
Any idea why the Multiexposure greys out when I want to use the 24-105mm lens that came with my EOS R5? It tells me that it can't be done unless I have the step-up ring to use other lenses than the 24-105 lens that came with the deal. No hardship as luckily I have a batch of varied lenses to play with but that is so annoying to discover straight after I bought it.
@africanhistory3 жыл бұрын
imagine then paying for the EOS 1 Dmk4 and getting 20 something Mega pixels
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and imagine the new mirrorless 1dx type be 20.1 mp too !
@therealjimmy54113 жыл бұрын
13:20 yes geotagging as a metadata tool is great. But lets get away from sharing location when we post. We are loving some places to death due to geotagging in a social post.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
I almost preached this in the video - I totally agree. I only tag locations that can handle the crowds.
@IntothewestOkotoks3 жыл бұрын
Or, you can spend a lot less and get the 30mp R. I actually didn’t find the ergonomics that bad with the R when I briefly tried it, and at least it still has the nice 3.69m dot EVF - although I haven’t tried it since the AF updates, but looks like it got a big upgrade. Either way, I’m not impressed with the R6 at its price. Likely really good for low light, but only 20 mp is definitely more than a psychological difference for $2500 ($3400 in Canada!).
@lhrocker3 жыл бұрын
How about the 20MP Sensor on the 1DX Mark III? Does that make the 1DX an inferior camera?
@schiueva3 жыл бұрын
The psychologically disappointing 20 megapixels is doing fine most of the time until a crop is needed. there are some situation I need to make a photo from landscape to portrait and 20 megapixels is not enough to do it. A 24mp, 26mp or 30mp camera can crop better.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
The real difference between 20 and 24 is very slight. Starting to get more noticeable at 26 and 30 - I recognize this is disappointing for some but as you read through the comments here you will see that there are lots of people that are happy.
@PunjabiGymBeats3 жыл бұрын
For autofocus alone its worth to get R6 over anything else on market.
@GaryJahman3 жыл бұрын
It's indeed a psychological issue regarding the megapixels. I think it's actually nice to have a lower count as the files are also smaller = faster workflow. What do you you think now of the EOS R? It's kinda in a weird position now if compared to the R6, R5 and RP.
@photorectoby3 жыл бұрын
I am very much enjoying the fast import and workflow. I it's a refreshing change to feel that my lightroom is fast again :) The eos R is in a very strange spot and I think will slowly disappear. I also think it's strange that canon's mirrorless aps c doesn't provide an easy upgrade path to their full frame. I wonder when that will change. I
@dimitristsagdis73403 жыл бұрын
@@photorectoby I’m hopping there may be an R Mark II (with the R5/6 AF system n buttons) and an R7 (a la 7D)
@parmanduke3 жыл бұрын
Some of the world's best photographers use 20mp on the 1DX3. Image quality from the 20mp sensor is insanely good. I like the R6 more than my R iv. Canon color science. It's the best imo.
@robin270319882 жыл бұрын
Canon R6 vs Sony Ar7iiia...which has the better colour rendering?
@shaolin952 жыл бұрын
R6
@DavGilmPF3 жыл бұрын
Owning an EOS R now. Would you advice the R6 regarding to 10mp downgrading ? I do crop a lot for my wildlife/bird photography. Will this be visable in my photos (not printing my photos).
@fanikurti24203 жыл бұрын
Does it have the AA FIlter? In some websites they say it does and in many others they say it doesn't.
@NiazMahmood19773 жыл бұрын
I basically shoot photography with Canon 7D II and want to upgrade the camera body to R6. I have a Sigma Art 18-35mm f/1.8 lens which works fantastically with Canon 7DII. I don't want to sell this lens and don't want to keep two camera bodies. I heard that crop sensor DSLR lenses works fine with Canon EOS R body with the adapter. Do you have any idea about this specific lens with the EOS R body for photography? Will it cause vignette at 18mm focal length? Thanks
@newvillagefilms3 жыл бұрын
So it's around $3000 with EF adapter and extra battery and after taxes?