Canon R5 vs R6 vs Rp vs R - Pro Maui Wedding Photographer's Thoughts | Scott Drexler

[@MMaven]

Thanks for joining me Scott and sharing your insights with us!

[@maxipadthai]

Great interview! Much more useful than listening to ambassadors praising the brands they represent.

[@MMaven]

Glad you enjoyed it! Scott is a hard working professional so I value his opinion greatly

[@stevenmuncy491]

Great to hear a discussion rather than reading a spec sheet.

[@aaronjonellhall1937]

Very, very intriguing video. Please, do more of these series where you interview photographers and videographers. The way that you formatted this was thought provoking, informative and inspirational

[@MMaven]

Thank you for the feedback. I will start making a list!

[@IntothewestOkotoks]

such a great discussion - thank you for doing this. we can all get wrapped up with the latest and greatest gear, and then you hear from a true professional thats making beautiful images with an RP. it's definitely not always about the gear.

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[@elishaedison3807]

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[@TazawaTanks]

Great video! I have two EOS Rs, but I do 90% video. The R6 does intrigue me though. The only thing that bothered me in this video was at 19:15. My OCD doesn’t allow me to wear Nike and Under Armour gear together! 🤣🤣👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

[@danielh7624]

Scott is so delightful to watch. He seems to be a really nice guy with tons of positive attitude

[@melaniechambers8946]

Really enjoyed this.....love how Scott talks about the magic of the eye AF and Michael explains the technical side.

[@craigcarlson4022]

So down to earth and real world! Very helpful. Thanks

[@longrider9551]

Michael great to see you talking to a real working photographer, I have become very jaded with so many photo KZbin channels who make videos every day and never seem to be real working photographers

[@MMaven]

Absolutely- I feel like i need to get some more full time pros in for sharing their thoughts.

[@longrider9551]

@@MMaven I was in a tool store one day buying a new hammer and chisel set to restore some furniture, a guy wearing a union carpenter shirt told me to buy a different hammer and chisel, I never forgot that, the desk was in my family for 100 years and his advice made the job 50% easier

[@MMaven]

@@longrider9551 great insight!

[@hom296]

Scott and Michael....great video! Thanks so much! - Joe Homsy

[@MMaven]

Our pleasure! Glad you liked it!

[@MindzEyz]

Great interview! People seem to not think about pixel density... I've found that the noise issue for high vs low megapixel cameras is a myth too... the way I reduce the images from the 5dsr and now the R5 has way better actual low light capability vs my lower mp cameras. The 90d is also ridiculous in this way too. 32 mp without the need to crop so much is great.

[@MMaven]

Great insight! Thank you for sharing!

[@sexysilversurfer]

I think that’s more to do with software algorithms in noise reduction which will give a better result if you give it more data.

[@caseyhartman7094]

Very valuable discussion with Scott. My primary camera has been the 5DIV and I'm leaning towards getting the R5 because like Scott, I also crop a lot of my photos. Hopefully I can get some decent trade-in value for my 70D and EF-S and other lenses I no longer use to reduce the sticker price shock.

[@rj5872]

Literally on the same boat!! Except I have an 80D to trade in. Thinking of keeping my 5DMKiv.

[@CipherKilledit]

Wooo! I'm feeling it

[@TedNemeth]

What a really fun discussion. Thank you.

[@sirgigolo]

20MP is enough.

[@gbaren]

Yes, unless you crop regularly .

[@marklatham1414]

The good thing is that using mirrorless helps you compose your shots a little easier with the evf.

[@mikek7815]

@@gbaren i had a 7d2, (crop) and was 20mp....i cropped. And printed 30" prints no issues

[@gbaren]

@@mikek7815 I understand but clients view my stuff on 75" screens and they can discern the difference.

[@jeni719]

I agree, I started photography shooting film, which was more of a hassle to get an image with the film development. I take more time up front to get a good image. On the down side I need to just start taking more images, since they are free.

[@isaacfeinberg4623]

25:07 I think its because white paint has become associated with canon's l-series telephoto lenses, so the rf 600, 800, and 24-105 don't fall under that category.

[@KentSpain85]

Except the 24-105 f/4 is an L series lens... And there are many many other L lenses that are black in the rf lineup.

[@Tfrank22]

Great interview! Love my Canon RP, and my Canon R.

[@TaeTheFuture]

is the R a HUGE upgrade? Or not so much. Im thinking of upgrading my RP to R

[@Tfrank22]

@@TaeTheFuture I don’t think it’s a huge upgrade but it definitely has some things that were missing on the RP. If you can get a good deal for it, I would definitely look into it.

[@TaeTheFuture]

@@Tfrank22 Great thanks for the help. Yeah I might stay with the rp and just upgrade to the r6 if all possible

[@Tfrank22]

@@TaeTheFuture Cool. What features do you need? Are you a hybrid shooter?

[@TaeTheFuture]

@@Tfrank22 Honestly, I just want the best Wedding Photography Camera. I don't NEED good video quality, I've shot things with my RP and was happy with it. I feel like dual card slots are safer but two bodies could possibly cover for that. Im like Stuck 😔 lol

[@browniepinoy]

Aloha from Oahu! Awesome and fun interview. I like the exchange when you asked, “Why did you go for the RP?” And he replied, “Well, you suggested it! It’s your fault.” . Lol. Fun interview. His photos are awesome.

[@Sanjiocom]

I think the tanned guy was very patient in letting the other one talk on and on.

[@johnherzel718]

Your last video with Scott was very influential for me when I upgraded my 70D. I was going to get the 90D but I was impressed with Scott's results and feedback on the RP. I kept the 70D as well and now it gets used where I need speed first or telephoto reach more than IQ or background blur. I really like the RP more than I thought I would. Thanks for leaving the BS out!

[@eliaspap8708]

Great chat, that’s impressive, I didn’t know the Canon RP was such capable camera. In regards to the ISO invariance I find iso 50 very handy when it comes to using outdoor strobe, it helps you keep your shutter speed lower to keep to the shutter sync.

[@danieltaylor1522]

Originally white lenses were white because thermal expansion might impact IQ in those optical designs, and white reflects more sunlight/heat. This is...or was...especially an issue with fluorite lens elements in higher end telephoto lenses. I don't know if this is an on going concern or if Canon is choosing lens color based on marketing and customer expectations.

[@808islandlife_HI]

Aloha bruddahs! Great interview and commentary.

[@RafaLases]

Amazing!! Just met this channel. Great discussion

[@godofhope]

I had the R6 and realised immediately the ridiculously bad moire effect! It’s a no go! Returned it immediately! I never saw this issue on my RP and R!

[@freddieslaughter1107]

When do you plan to review the Sony A7R4?

[@game2572]

Scott how do you edit and return so many jobs

[@dmd1227]

Great great content!!! Any chance of a similar discussion with a working Nikon pro? And a video on using a Z6 today with latest firmware updates?

[@jmich5123]

Curious since you shoot craw why you set the control ring to white balance (k)?

[@dimdimich1]

Curious also please answer

[@mikek7815]

Just bc you shoot raw, doesn't mean you dont shoot correctly. Shooting raw doesn't mean you should have the "ill just fix post" mentality. You still want to get the shot correct.

[@jmich5123]

@@mikek7815 white balance settings I thought only applies to JPEGs. If your setting white balance while shooting Raw my understanding is (or was) it doesn’t do anything?

[@mikek7815]

@@jmich5123 wrong. Jpg or raw, you still need to shoot correctly. You can edit both post, but raw has more post capabilities to correct. And the notion that raw is the only way to shoot is another opinion. Nothing wrong shooting jpg. 90% of my work is jpg. Lots of pros shoot jpg. The camera is a tool. Let the tool work for you. When you have 1500-3000 photos to cull at the end of a game, or 100s of photos between periods, and need to export photos in mins, trust me, jpgs are the way to shoot.

[@gbaren]

Nice interview & practical advice

[@MMaven]

Thank you Glen

[@bolonissay8953]

this is very very good video. you should do more of this type of video.

[@dtasamurai6496]

I like the way Scott matched the blinds behind him LOL. Sorry, Brit humour.

[@japzinterludes6097]

thank you for this vid.. still loving the content both of you are making... just want to ask, is the rp still worth it or just wait for new camera of canon to arrive this 2021? please what are you thoughts about this? also with limted budget.

[@dubbleA100]

So now I have to think multiple RPs or R5. I really want the shall cards stick with my LP batteries and the IBIS I think I have to buy the R5/6

[@mrsimpkiss]

Great video. Very informative and I love how clearly you explain things without getting too deep into the technical aspects of each camera. I'm currently shooting with a canon 6d and am looking to upgrade to either the r6 or r5. Funnily enough I started with the same Nikon as yourself, and then went onto the canon 10d, before changing to the 6d nine years ago. But now I'm due an upgrade and am weighing up the pros and cons of the r6 and r5. A challenge in itself.

[@goodfornothing89]

I believe all telephoto lenses were made white to reflect sun light in hot weather conditions. Black lens barrel will gather sun heat and may affect the moving parts within the lens.

[@116Paul]

Great video. I was planning to get r5 until you said 45mp makes 3rd party lens softer. For zoom lens, I have 24-70mm and 70-200mm tamron g2. How much softer is it on r5 than r6? Now, I think I should get 1 r6 with 1 rf 50mm 1.2 than just 1 r5 with my own tamron g2.

[@jhenry248]

Thanks for the review, I start shooting in June 2020 got the M50 and the EF-M to EF adapter and EF lens with the anticipation on going to full frame mirrorless one day. I thought about going to the RP and adapter for my EF lens but looking at the specs of the RP it seemed like a grown up M50 to me. Being right eye I dominate I'm leaning towards the R due to price over the R6 at this time.

[@MMaven]

I think the R has vastly improved since its release with the firmware updates. While I prefer Full frame for portraits and weddings, I actually started with crop and shot crop at weddings for about 3 years before going to the first 5D. Main thing is the new eye section seems faster and better on the newer models, though still works great on the older ones.

[@jhenry248]

I thought about getting the 6D mrk2 but the mirrorless cameras EVF has me spoiled 😂

[@Bill-NM]

@@MMaven Mike could you quickly mention the firmware improvements? I'm trying to decide between a new RP vs a used R. Thanks.

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

For a hybrid shooter with limited amount of money, will the R6 suffice?

[@mikek7815]

Im a professional, and shoot sports with R6 with EF lens. Ppl get too hung up on specs. I have had shots at 20000 iso ( yes...20k)that was still usable. And b4 anyone says anything, i did that as a test at home. 300mm, 2.8, 20k iso indoors, no flash.

[@DavidJJJ]

Go with the RP, it’s rated better than the R6.

[@kennedybaffoe2683]

My question is are these pictures straight from the camera or it after editing ?

[@kennlw5]

Fantastic dialogue between you two 👌🏾

[@rachellinkwald2591]

Why use the viewfinder rather than the screen? Battery life?

[@mbvglider]

For me, I use the screen for portrait shoots and things like that, but if it's action, especially at longer focal lengths, I think it's easier to aim the camera when its lens is in line with your eyesight, so you can keep shots centered. I like to keep the EVF auto-switcher off because if I flip the screen closed, I can still use the EVF if I put my eye to it, but it annoys me when I'm shooting with the screen. I think the EVF actually uses more battery than the screen.

[@suspons6832]

Great interview!, but talking about the higher Mpx on the r5, requiere sharper ef lenses, so they have to be sharper enough to reslove for the sensor, right? Does have anything to do with the canon r5 sensor misalignment issue ?

[@mbvglider]

People say that about high megapixel cameras, but if you're using full frame lenses on crop sensor cameras, you're already making that assumption that these lenses can resolve at that level.

[@MrGeorgephadel]

A white surface reflects sunlight, helping to keep the lens cooler.

[@pgulysse1]

Thanks. Let wait and see what's #Canon for the R Line of Cameras. Wondering how R & RP successors will fit... R5 = 45MP R / Ra = 30MP RP = 26 MP R6 = 20MP

[@muhnahri06]

Oh my god, i can't sleep for thinking about replacing my Fuji XH1 with EOS RP. Is it a good decision? Please give me insights, guys

[@Ranblv]

great video. great tips.

[@toxicronin]

You tell about for that 1600 dollar/euro to pay more for the r5. Be then so kind to tell also you need a memorycard upgrade. Your computer need a upgreat. And you have to downgreat photos to send to clients because else the can't open it or files are to big for them...

[@jlawr4427]

Will a photo look better shot at 100 ISO and brightened in post, or shot at a higher ISO in the camera? Thanx.

[@MMaven]

About the same

[@sexysilversurfer]

It depends on the sensor technology and how many stops you are brightening the image. Until the R5 canon sensor, older Canon sensors suffered with noise if you raised shadows more than three stops so it was better to raise the ISO. Nikon, Sony, Pentax etc use ISO invariant sensors so suffered less from noise when raising shadows.

[@DeepakChauhan-sk6zd]

Hello sir, I am Form India Which camra best for wedding stories. R. R6. R5

[@d2c9416]

Since R6 does IPB only does it make a difference vs R5 which can do All I also? Picture quality? Is the difference only theoretical?

[@Sam1986E]

Amazing video

[@MMaven]

Glad you think so!

[@szinski]

I sold all of my DSLR gear (and EF lenses) and made the switch to Canon's mirrorless (R5/R6). I can honestly say that I don't regret my decision at all, mirrorless is clearly the wave of the future. Eye-AF is a game-changer for me, IBIS is sweet, C-RAW is amazing, so many things to like about the new system. I agree with Scott, I can't list any negatives with the new bodies and lenses. Oh, and the reason the new RF 70-200 is shorter is because the old EF 70-200 was always "extended" (the housing was a fixed length with the elements moving inside), The RF lens is the same length as the old when fully zoomed. The old way is better because no air is sucked into the lens as it zooms because it doesn't extend, but Canon says the new one has vents that filter out any dust and moisture.

[@artsmodelstation9396]

Michael Question - just got Nikon D850. I find that the viewfinder is dim. I’ve googled it and other owners complain about this. Have u experienced this ? Is this normal for the D850 ?

[@joshgonzalez2885]

So it sounds like if you don't have any of these cameras, and you can't afford the R5. To buy the RP and then save up for the R5 and have that as your duo

[@ktbffh4115]

hi, will the lens on my 90D fit on the RP...?

[@nickdubesa8068]

What lens? They all fit with an Ef-R adapter. If the lens is an ef-s canon it will crop on the rp and be 10 megapixels ish

[@ktbffh4115]

the efs 10-22mm lens..

[@nickdubesa8068]

@@ktbffh4115 it will work good in 4K mode since that is essentially cropped and the same size as your 90d sensor. The Ef-s lenses are designed for crop sensors not full frame. In photo mode it will only be 10 megapixels and cropped. The new RF 35mm is a nice prime lens for the RF mount and could work in most situations even lowlight; I would recommend that focal length if you haven’t tried it before

[@nikhileshchande15]

Hello.. i am a wedding photographer from India. Just saw your video related to Canon mirrorless cameras. Kindly help to clear few doubts about RP. The shutter count is one lakh. As in Indian wedding there are lot of ceremony and guests. So we need to take a lot of pictures. I personally shoot approx. 6,000-7,000 pics per wedding ( three days). Pls suggest me which camera to buy between RP & R as i prefer to save money to invest in other gadgets. Your suggestion regarding it will be of a great help as presently I am using two bodies of Canon 5D mark 111.

[@lanzymeztt3428]

Plz make X-T200 tutorial

[@fonsmm]

White lenses? Cooling I suppose. The large lenses in white are L lenses.

[@ResurrectedBrush]

So the one comment I will make regarding the megapixel race is and the swimming pool story.. why would you even discuss the number of megapixels in your camera with a client? I'm in my 15th year of shooting weddings. Never once have I had a client ask me how many megapixels my camera has. I've had them ask what camera I use (because magazine and online articles tell them they should ask -- even though they couldn't tell you the difference between a 5D Mark IV or an R6/R5 if their life depended on it), but never megapixels. To me, that's just not a realistic conversation to be having with clients. I leave it at "I will deliver high resolution files to you" and that's more than enough to satisfy them.

[@MMaven]

If you are a wedding photographer, then you are also a salesman. Good salesmen are always able to point out value & differentiation. I can tell many stories about this. If you cannot articulate value, it’ll be harder to land customers in a competitive market. You are welcome to disagree. (fwiw I was asked many times about MPs when I shot weddings, but this was during the great MP increase. It was 2MP when I started and was just getting into the 20s when I finished- that’s a huge difference)

[@ResurrectedBrush]

@@MMaven I'm always selling value to my clients. I've just never had them ask or care about MP as a number value. I have had them ask what size prints they can order from the images I deliver (or if they don't ask, I sell them on that), which I believe is a far greater value to them, and much easier for them to understand (if they aren't photographers), than a technical number.

[@Chad-Dion]

24-70 and 70-200 for YEARS with weddings here.. Thats all I have ever needed.

[@klubcj]

Do you have two camera or just swap lens ?

[@Chad-Dion]

@@klubcj I have done both.. But i prefer the 2 Camera setup for speed.

[@LoveChristJesus]

If I want a real comparison on cameras I came here.I*m waiting for the Sony Alpha One rewiew.

[@MMaven]

Thank you - I do not have a working relationship with Sony but I will try to get my hands on one

[@halsnyder296]

I’ve considered the Ra

[@chrohm]

amazing photographer, but is it just me or do the photos shown look fairly noisy?

[@deebea6364]

Personally I would never use the R or RP for a wedding - 1 card is not ok for me... went from 5d4 to R5.., I was considering an R6 as second body, but went with a 2nd R5 instead :)

[@szinski]

I totally agree. You can't go back and reshoot a wedding if your memory card fails.

[@DavidJJJ]

R5 is a beast, one of the best, I went with the RP since I’m no pro and I’m upgrading from an old 12MP, Canon, and I don’t have an extra $2k!

[@deebea6364]

@@DavidJJJ The RF mount is really great, and if I was going for a camera for fun I would probably take the R over the 5d4... for work or a wedding I would definitely take the 5d4 though, for those dual card slots! I know someone who lost a full days shoot (Card Failure on R), and if that had been a wedding... it would have been really devastating to both the photographer, and the couple!

[@disphoto]

Excellent practical discussion of the various bodies when in use by a pro. The white lenses are done for both technical and marketing reasons. Canon over the years has said that the white color was to reduce the heat load on the larger lenses with larger glass when shooting outdoors. They have also said it was to protect fluorite elements that have less chroma aberration but are more fragile. The white color will significantly reduce the heat absorbed in sunlight, but it does get a little silly when on the 70-200 there are large black control rings that cover much of the lens barrel. The real answer is probably both for technical and marketing. The white does help reduce heat and the chance of a large lens element shattering, and it makes the lens stand out at big events which helps with marketing. For what it is worth, I did have an old 70-200f2.8L front element shatter when I brought it in from sitting in a hot car to an air-conditioned building. So heat alone can cause a lens to break.

[@tomtracy5396]

No mention of the pandemic and affect on weddings in Hawaii???

[@MMaven]

He’s still doing them - just not as many.

[@philippegelinas3083]

The R6 is nice in 2020/2021 but 20 mp isn't enough to keep up with the competition. When the Sony A7 IV will launch, I don't think people will want the R6. The R5 will just give you more resolution which I think it's important to consider if you want your camera to last.

[@mikek7815]

How is 20mp not enough? I shot a crop, 7d2, 20mp. Printed large 30 and 40 inch prints. With r6, they look even better.

[@philippegelinas3083]

@@mikek7815 20 Megapixel is enough yes, but it's not enough for me to spend the money on an R6 when I can get the same resolution with an old 6d.

[@mikek7815]

@@philippegelinas3083 sorry....i don't agree you can compare 2 bodies, just bc they have same MPs. R6 is leaps and bounds better than 6d

[@philippegelinas3083]

@@mikek7815 Yes of course the R6 is better, but how much better if you expose correctly in a good lighting environment?

[@mikek7815]

@@philippegelinas3083 all depends what you are shooting. Im a sports photographer. I need the speed, af, low lighting, etc.

[@halsnyder296]

If the R5 had been out, or even rumored I would have bought/waited. The R was so awful when I tried it, I went with a Z7.. still like Z, wish Canon had stepped up with the R

[@BCPCamerasTech]

No mechanical shutter on the RP was a real bummer. Great video! Made a similar video. Check it out if you get a moment.

[@edadan]

Jesus is the answer. He is the ONLY way to the Father in Heaven. Believe in and OBEY the Lord Jesus Christ, repent of your sins, get baptized, receive the Holy Spirit and be saved!

[@leewilliams1008]

Is he full frame or crop sensor?

[@al171717s]

@@leewilliams1008 Amen !

[@Dstonephoto]

Did Scott bathe himself in beta carotene?

[@MMaven]

No, but he’s in the sun everyday. It’s not necessary to be unkind.

[@Dstonephoto]

@@MMaven LOL, nor is it necessary to interpret harmless comment as being intentionally unkind. His skin tone in the video looks out-of-whack orange. Is this really considered offensive??? Let's ask Scot how he feels about the comment. Sweet lord. haha.

[@MMaven]

@@Dstonephoto No one actually bathes in beta carotene and because its in regard to his skin color, yeah... Not cool.