Capture The Flag Is The Worst Gamemode In TF2

Yo, just hear me out. If you disliked the video before listening to anything I have to say on the subject, here's a tl;dw - CTF encourages people to play too defensively in a game where attacking is a thing too. I don't care what maps you like to play; do whatever you want.
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**strategies

[@jimbobjimmy5537]

From my experiences, ctf will either last a few minutes or a few hours.

[@kaelanmcalpine2011]

Sounds like my one game of Payload Race, it was on Hightower.

[@weiserthanyou2052]

if you're lucky, it'll be a 2v12 match with you on the losing team. if you're unlucky, OH BOY HERE WE GO 5 HOURS OF LEAVING THE GAME OPEN WHILE HAVING A NIGHT OUT AND YOU COME BACK TO FIND IT STILL 1V1 LIKE IT WAS 5 HOURS AGO WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE NEITHER TEAM NEEDS 11 ENGIES AND A MEDIC WHY WOULD YOU EVEN HAVE A MEDIC IF IT'S JUST 11 ENGIES ON EACH TEAM.

[@weiserthanyou2052]

in retrospect, turrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbine is actually better than turbine as long as you can establish a forward sentry nest/command post, both to stop those annoying spy-caps and so your heavies won't spend 10 minutes walking to the fight.

[@PeterTheIcePea]

I hate CTF too, and I remember playing on 2FORT once where I was an Engineer and was defending the intelligence and I lived for 40mins and before I started defending the intelligence it was already going on for 20mins. No one had collected the intelligence yet and I had a few Scouts running in before dying instantly and I did finally die in the end, which was 40mins, by a Demoman who died instantly by a Sentry Gun not long after he killed me and then it went on for another 28mins before everyone just went "Fuck this" and all agreed to finish it off. Once we finished it off people chose 2FORT again and the people who where there since from the start freaked out and it went on for 30mins and I decided to leave.

[@gourmetcheesepizza9006]

I'm to scared to play with REAL PEOPLE.

[@ningenmemerick5790]

>engineer main >doesn't like CTF Nobody saw that coming.

[@Deatlod]

*abuses enemy intelligence*

[@youremergencybleach8903]

>sniper main >doesn't like 2fort Anyone knows why

[@Dushess]

@@youremergencybleach8903 Graaaaghh!

[@KodiakKetchup]

Considering CTF is a engineer's main gamemode

[@scoutpandapal]

*clears throat in engineer main nervously* Y-yeah totally like me!

[@ShrR-ud3xv]

The only reason i play CTF is cause when you play so much hours in one match, the lobby turns friendly

[@specterknight0542]

I like to just Ninjaneer to the enemy intel when that haopen then after a few minutes the hostility somehow restart and now i have a defense in the intel were my teammates can go cap and go instantly to the base

[@liamelias4214]

Friendlies are the worst part of tf2 even bots are better

[@ShrR-ud3xv]

@@liamelias4214 dw Liam we feel the same way about you tryhards ☺️

[@liamelias4214]

@@ShrR-ud3xv The difference is that one is being free food for stranges and one is playing the game

[@Rasmos]

@@ShrR-ud3xv I can understand doing a goofy friendly moment every once in a while, but the heavies that sit around with a sandwich wasting a slot when my friend is trying to join can piss off.

[@rahhe]

CTF (Technically CTI) is what everyone considers "Go into the enemy base and start dancing to start an alliance between RED and BLU".

[@Predatornc1]

I once captured the intel by ninja erring in all try hard like and then riding my tractor out. Blue team escorted me out.

[@the_epic_memer553]

i hate the acronym cti. also 200 like and agreed

[@Somerandomguy2763]

Then betray their trust and steal their intel, right?

[@joseignaciogazzi3278]

@@Somerandomguy2763 You're goddamn right

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I don't even play TF2 actively, I'm just here because enjoy the videos. But the last time I did play, I had 3 matches on 2fort. Two of them were the typical campfest with snipers over the bridge and engies in the intel room and the third was a conga party.

[@FUNKe]

good effort but i dont think anybody would ever want to watch a video essay on the state of tf2

[@gaot]

FUNKe i would watch the shit out of that

[@ricefield_worker2421]

FUNKe no one gives a FUNKe

[@nullnull728]

Good point

[@rruutt]

FUNKe I WOULD... for uncle dan

[@RusticSquid]

FUNKe Today I learned that FUNKe and I both have enough time on our hands to watch Ancle Dan videos shortly after they're posted.

[@kingcotton659]

I like CTF because it fulfills my dream of living through Trench warfare

[@whydoitrystuff]

I guess I found the reason why I like CTF so much. The long matches make it feel like a war between 2 sides, not just a small scrimmage.

[@josiahm.8711]

Strange dream but aight good for you

[@quitequeerquesadilla]

Honestly I find it super fun to go through hours and hours of CTF kinda for this exact reason Once I was playing Pyro on 2Fort and I had to tend to so many things at once - the snipers upstairs, the engineer downstairs, the sewer every time I saw someone fall into the water - but it was fun And then somebody capped and we all lost It was still fun though

[@ScrumpeyBros]

@@whydoitrystuff If CTF was supposed to feel like a war, it should add four more players on each team, like some community servers do.

[@ffff-qw7sp]

that's more dustbowl

[@Goober43110]

I see CTF as kind of like a playground mode. The games are really drawn out so it helps me experiment with different classes

[@Johsther]

true, it's so drawn out that you don't even have to sweat and worry about losing, making you want to play classes with gimmicky loadouts

[@pumpkin7906]

Same

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

They are drawn out because TF2's implementation is made to make them long. In most other games the CTF mode has a round timer (so you can win 1:0 on a 3 point match) and the flag returns back to base on touch (so that you don't have to camp on it in the open for a minute). And usually you can only get a point when your own flag is also at home.

[@101Volts]

That's about it, people more often goof around in CTF. It's far more laid back than Payload. As you said, you can experiment with other classes and the games are more drawn out. There's not so much of a sense of urgency.

[@daves_2003]

same

[@ChadtronicFan]

CTF feels like WW1. You either have massive offensives that barely do anything, or one side sweeps over the other like it's nothing.

[@dawidkrzyczkowski4289]

"it's an even fight or it isn't" that's every gamemode moron

[@CinmnTstCrnchChrros]

Damn, you're right

[@dodsonboys]

Either that or it's like the Christmas truce where both teams are playing soccer together or messing around with hoovies

[@SoundSmithTF2]

To be fair, CTF is my go-to gamemode when I want to dick around and play a single game for 3 hours straight. Stalemates are kind of the reason I play that mode in the first place. But yeah, for an actual competitive game it's trash.

[@matthewtallent8296]

True, I play tf2 very casually so I like CTF the most. CTF games are generally the longest and there is the option to play both offensively and defensively for both teams at any time.

[@lizardirl9488]

SoundSmithTF2 Same here

[@kyechimera]

The main CTF maps me and my friends dick around on is 2Fort and Doublecross, sometimes turbine, also, thanks for those stupid "Casual Meta" videos, it's gotten me and my friends to think up our own stupid strats and sometimes do your ones :)

[@PomLamb]

Hey soundsmithtf2. That's the same reason why I play CTF. I'ts a map stereotype.

[@unlikecomic9]

I love your hat stereotypes vids. I was there when you first started your channel. Keep it up bro.

[@kafa4609]

Meanwhile Me as a spy in Turbine cloaked in the enemy intelligence room for 10 minutes surrounded by sentries: _This is fine_

[@SwagLazy]

instead of fire, the dog and the coffe i thought like this: sentrys, the invisible spy and the sapper.

[@DrGordonHouse]

and a pyro checking every corner on the intelligence room lmao

[@TheRidiculousR]

*insert random engi that uses wrangler as lasershow and accidentally discovers you*

[@KodiakKetchup]

If they're bad, sap their sentrys and make a run for it

[@KodiakKetchup]

@@duckaroo5763 there will be: the Intel campers **cough** (me)

[@hector_campus]

Funfact :the real reason why Uncle Dane hates capture flag maps is because you get critical hits buff when you cap the flag.

[@duncanchillake8024]

@Maurice tbf you need some sort of reward for capping the intel, it gives the old dopamine receptors new material to work with

[@shitanotosaurus]

@@duncanchillake8024 you can barely take advantage of the crits if you were the one that capped, nobody is gonna be in your intel for you to insta kill with a crit.

[@duncanchillake8024]

@@shitanotosaurus fair point but in one of valve's patch notes (i don't remember which) they said the crits also discourage enemies from following the capper home, which means you don't get punished for successfully doing the objective While i know valve's words usually never align with the game outside of theory, this one sounds pretty reasonable

[@shitanotosaurus]

@@duncanchillake8024 thats actually a fair point. although in maps like 2fort where out of position enemies get punished fairly easily since theres only two ways in and two ways out of the intel, you could argue its not needed since they'll likely die anyways on the way out.

[@luka9967]

​@@duncanchillake8024the reward is winning, being able to instakill the enemy team on top of that is just a snowball effect

[@codaboi138]

I've actually used CTF to teach some new players a couple times now. As turtle engie no less. Why? Because tf2 is chaotic, complicated and has lots of high skill veterans playing. CTF is the definition of a casual game mode. If I threw these newbies into a payload map, they'd be confused as to why they were dying and what they need to do to help. CTF is simple. The object barely matteres and when you have players who don't even know how to make buildings yet, the object is the last thing they need to worry about. CTF is perfect for learning the basics in a casual, low pressure environment with other players who are either new or just messing around. That's the best you'll get when this game doesn't actually have a tutorial.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

The only reason CTF is so casual is because there is no deathmatch mode. Which by definition would be the most casual mode without any objectives besides killing. CTF in general is a rather tactical mode, knowing when to push or defend, which route to take, how much resources to commit to a push and what to hold back to defend the own flag. TF2 just implements it in a very nothing happens way.

[@lovelightstarboy]

As someone who basically learned everything while playing in a 24/7 CTF turbine skial server, this is so true. That CTF server basically feels like home to me now since, while casual was overrun with bots, I could go there to get some fun play time in and slowly get better.

[@D-N-0]

I am so glad that my first game was on 2 fort. If not, i would defently would be frustrated enough for me to say "Screw this. I'm gonna go play Warface"

[@AHandele3546]

​@@HappyBeezerStudios"there is no dm" Watergate: Selbyen:

[@The_not_so_funny_funny_man]

I kill f2p heavy’s who just installed the game. As sniper.

[@s942]

I have 1000 hours and i still haven’t gotten the achievement for completing a game of 2fort

[@travelsizedarchie]

What 9999fort?f

[@chicken8664]

Declan Perry you don’t get the joke?

[@chicken8664]

Declan Perry he means that every singe game he has played on 2Fort has never ended for him bc it’s asked so long

[@Paper_Brain]

And all 1000 hours have been on 2fort

[@eh2587]

@@Paper_Brain Acctualy they were all on idle servers

[@UncleDane]

And I didn't even mention the whole Crits On Capture thing.

[@jennyinutil2018]

oh, yeah, that is bad.

[@dhika10]

Uncle Dane its cancerous

[@TKsh1]

Run to Spawn, simple as that.

[@LoneCarrot]

best intro and outro 10/10 would see video again

[@The-Derpinator7075]

#Uncle Dane what is your favorite loadout

[@casualdejekyll5168]

2:03 personally speaking, my favorite thing to do in capture the flag pubs is to set up a fully fledged sentry nest in the ENEMY intel room. I don’t cap, I just sit there and watch as confused players fall ass first onto my level three sentry. Until I inevitably and deservedly get destroyed by a demoman.

[@bandana5595]

honestly I just taunt, but if people taunt with me I lead them into an army of level 3 sentries

[@denifnaf5874]

Build an exit teleporter in a hidem slot in the enemy intel Killbind Make a tp entrance at spawn

[@gudmansal3468]

make the enterance when you spawn then go to their base to build the exit@@denifnaf5874

[@laseregg5875]

The community: we need a timer for CTF maps! Valve: you mean Powerhouse right?

[@TheSchleepingmoney]

“The community”. You mean payload players who don’t like playing ctf. Absolutely no one who plays ctf wants a timer. People get salty when a f2p scout caps three times and wins the game.

[@laseregg5875]

@@TheSchleepingmoney No I mean people who play ctf

[@Shredow2]

@@TheSchleepingmoney You aren't "Playing CTF" you're either fucking around or playing endless team death match.

[@Jpeg_skeleton]

As a 2fort CTF player I agree

[@galacticgamer6635]

Capture the flag players when someone captures the flag.

[@smolbabby]

CTF has 1 purpose: Being an endless TDM

[@stevengruner4885]

Loïc Boiteux YAY

[@theobserver4214]

Loïc Boiteux Even then, it is less fun than player destruction.

[@usuariocomun702]

But Hightower does it better

[@lolman157]

trutru

[@hankrow]

Loïc Boiteux yes

[@thecarl4085]

When you run into a soldier while in the turbine vents. “Well, guess I’ll die.”

[@nobleradical2158]

Or demo Or sentry Or rev’d up heavy

[@thecarl4085]

Basically anything but spy and medic

[@shawndang326]

@@thecarl4085 lol the turbine vents are just wide enough so that if you are spy and collide with an enemy on your side, you can stab them and it somehow counts as a backstab

[@frut_jooos]

A soldier? Please huntsman is fucking deadly in those vents, I only ever go huntsman sniper in turbine

[@TheDJBrojo]

Guo Zhi Ong *demoknight with 4 heads*

[@TycoonTitian01]

I can agree with this, I was able to make a level three nest in the intel. The ENEMY INTEL and I had only played for 45min

[@exploitexpert430]

I love doing that

[@OrangeBunt]

PURPLE GUY?

[@thedoctor1510]

Personally I love those moments in CTF where we hold the Intel, but not just ours. It's just thrilling barely surviving an enemy push and rebuilding.

[@Tripping_Through]

I once had a 2fort game that lasted three hours, there were cheers when I (as medic) capped the last intel

[@xyzzy-dv6te]

This is so real. I heal someone on 2fort as a medic, we get to enemy courtyard and my pocket just goes to spawncamp and I have to get the intel

[@engineer5092]

U don't cap on 2fort lol

[@engineer5092]

@@xyzzy-dv6te.

[@Tripping_Through]

Melonenyoshi it wasn’t that there wasn’t people trying to cap, we all were, but well... engineers

[@DeerPrincesswlg]

Once i had a game of 2fort that was 6 hours long i was sweaty as fuck after it.

[@frut_jooos]

"Engineers only build in the Intel room" *laughs in bridge sentry nest*

[@paulomelettilestrade]

Or in the enemy's spawn.

[@frut_jooos]

@Henry_BG could've been me honestly, I remember raging at some snipers LOL

[@frut_jooos]

@Henry_BG idk bro, its been a while since I did that on 2fort, I can't really remember, did the engie you shoot had the word "your" as the first word in their name?

[@frut_jooos]

@Henry_BG shit

[@paulomelettilestrade]

@@ThatSpicyDragon And all of that just goes down by a fucking weeb that gets invisible.

[@deutgi]

my friend's first TF2 experience was CTF on 2fort many years ago. everything she experienced in that mode was her impression of the game as a whole - matches were too long, stalemates common, sniper (her fav class) seemed useless, etc. it took me a long time to convince her to play some payload with me last year, but now she really enjoys the game and we play often. ctf needs a damn timer haha

[@donanilao7724]

Nice.

[@Artcat932]

CTF is like the ultimate “one more game”

[@wowyourereallyreadingthis]

“Then they tealise theres no time limit. I can stand here all day! You make a move! No u” Western front of WW1 oversimplified

[@potatoesandducks958]

RED: sends a scout to sneak cap the flag the entirety of BLU: sacre BLUUUUUU

[@aguy7095]

Meanwhile on the eastern front... *Soviet uprising* *Dead Russians comes back to life* *Tsar of Russia being a bad boy* *Russia going to surrender* *Germans winning*

[@paulcecere8864]

*Those are bold words for somebody in backstab range*

[@SrQuack-js6sn]

Pls don't stab me I like my spine

[@screamsinrussian5773]

Ouch my spine

[@vladgabrielmatei9128]

Ahhhhhh this guy🤚👌

[@DEFIB7]

* screams in Russian * MY SPINE CYKA BLYAAAAAAAAA

[@badzombies2003]

Those are bold words for someone in flamethrower range.

[@sizzle7578]

CTF feels like No Man's Land, especially on 2fort.

[@denifnaf5874]

The fun part is when you successfully build a sentry in the ENEMY intel while a teammate simultaniously steals the briefcase.

[@revol2933]

Uncle Dane: CTF lasts forever Hightower: *hold my beer*

[@Yaboibarel]

*_HIGHERTOWER_* - Amatours

[@lestranger7440]

@@Yaboibarel actually,i have seen highertower's ending,but never hightower's ending

[@joseignaciogazzi3278]

@@lestranger7440 i did it, with heavy and his steel guantelets

[@babycornsnake]

Been playing for a decade and I can assure you, I've only finished a full game of Hightower enough times where I can count my wins on my fingers

[@Foozp333]

I got 1 or more hour(s) on 2fort

[@imstupidandithinkthat5930]

“Things are going to change” no major update in literally 1000 days

[@cheesejam1373]

So inteligent

[@landlockedcroat1554]

uuu

[@maestrofeli4259]

I think blue moon came out in 2018 so it's been 3 years 3 FUXKING YEARS

[@Jessica-el5yx]

This video came out before Jungle Inferno.

[@aravsingh2868]

Make that 1400

[@the_knightcatTTv]

*Me playing capture the flag on the 2Fort map because any other que takes forever*

[@wjjgtin5074]

"Valve retroactively removed turbine from the competitive map rotation after r/tf2 called in a bomb threat to their offices" and people wonder why valve just won't touch this game anymore

[@trafficconememes331]

WTF

[@rua5910]

*failing to understand a joke

[@lasagnalover1185]

i'm sorry what?

[@thebushbros6626]

@@rua5910 How was a bomb threat a joke?

[@hankgaming3]

​@@Sournale Idk

[@pyromaster9101]

Hey, I ONLY play 2fort and I turned out fine! *builds in intel room*

[@rickyshicky9314]

Hey I only play 2fort and I turned out fine *Rages in chat because tryhards are Killing friendlies*

[@youremergencybleach8903]

Hey, I ONLY play 2Fort and I turned out fine *Snipes on the most overused spot*

[@metaford3746]

Hey, I only played on 2fort and i turned out fine! *Completely clueless to a spy de cloaking and disguising as me*

[@KodiakKetchup]

Ain't 2fort the best map for a engineer

[@TheRealBlazingDiamond]

*Builds in enemy intel room* I've done that so much lol

[@snarblewarbs6199]

Engineers in other modes:let’s get creative! Engineers in ctf: now let’s all agree to never be creative again!

[@tehrik0020]

CtF Engineer starter pack: >Put Sentry, Dispenser and Teleporter's exit in Intel room >Rancho Relaxo >Shoot Spies once in a while >Profit

[@SoldierMan755]

New players: I want green team! Valve: GREEN IS NOT A CREATIVE COLOR

[@gayahhbihh]

@@SoldierMan755 Me: *Making shapes with gun holes* My friends, trying to guess what im making: I can see a dog, i can see a frog!

[@IAdmitMyCrime]

@@gayahhbihh I can see a hat, I can see a cat I can see a man with a baseball bat I can see a dog, I can see a frog I can see a ladder leaning on a log

[@pancakes-kun576]

Dont hug me im scared lets get creative

[@magicalminerz1823]

7:12 Oh hey Valve listened when we made a bomb threat!… *Dies to a random crit* Man I hate random crits… Wait a sec.

[@TheGamerUnknown]

Many of my first matches in TF2 were CTF on 2Fort. It far outweighed other game-modes and maps. It was so repetitive, mind-numbingly simple and frustrating to see that neither team ever seemed to make any progress and many people were just fucking around. The map and mode made TF2 feel like an abandoned amateur project. It honestly made me want to quit. Eventually, I heard from others to just disable CTF from the list. I did, and suddenly I was having a ton of fun. The objectives were all doable and dependent on teamwork. I could get a lot better as a player and team-mate. I don't think I'd have continued playing if I hadn't done that.

[@deathahoy8971]

🤓

[@DeadHandtheSurvivor]

​@@deathahoy8971🤡

[@deathahoy8971]

@@DeadHandtheSurvivor 🍆

[@wojtekp295]

Y'know what this team needs? *MORE SNIPERS.*

[@adikumar6536]

Sniping's a good job, mate.

[@samuelshock6292]

I guarantee you’ll not go angry

[@rubenp8612]

@@samuelshock6292 underated comment

[@giantcoffemug]

cus at the end of the day

[@doctorofskillz2932]

@@giantcoffemug if there's two

[@yeehaw9369]

I’ve seen a sniper in 2fort in the water, in the corner..?

[@me-eat-book_7780]

New strat

[@newend2116]

What a god

[@conni-bun]

Rip jarate

[@charlesquinton9127]

Not to mention that one spawn-camping sniper who hangs out in the grate-room and quicksopes everyone. He's fun

[@secretname2670]

@@charlesquinton9127 what the hell have you been through

[@ronniebarter3857]

I was on a 2 hour game of ctf on 2fort. It's just an unending quagmire every time. Loved it.

[@blitzkriegorsmthn]

Certain ctf maps heavily encourage flanking and good movement and positioning, and the infinite round timer allows for massive friendly parties. Still, I do agree, ctf is kinda broken :/

[@boots911]

dude this video is entirely wrong.. like completely... you're saying santa is my stepdad in a beard??? I DON'T EVEN HAVE A STEPDAD WHO IS IT

[@boots911]

Gabriel Shepard oh yeah I forgot I had an uncle with my cousin.

[@cleverstudios4565]

Gabriel Shepard a

[@coffeetext]

Clever Studios 'an'.

[@tinanolan9978]

Ur mum I had to say it man I has toooo

[@lennychristine6761]

One time, When I was playing Engi (on 2fort), I forgot to do my math homework. Since my buildings were fully upgraded, all I had to do was just go use the Rancho Relaxo taunt, and pull it out.

[@nobleradical2158]

The Monarch “Hey man, what type of music do you listen to while studying?” “Oh, y’know, intel room sounds. “

[@zak9399]

@@nobleradical2158 The are oddly relaxing.

[@dabuff1319]

I was sick once so I just played capture the flag.

[@metatrontf]

TOO RELATABLE. A few years back my dad told me to walk my dog at night, usually takes 30m to do it plus clean him up, but I was playing TF2. I was Scout, so I switched to Engie and told my buddy to be my pybro and I just rancho relaxo'd before leaving. By the time I was back 40m later, game was still going on and I hadn't died. Intel room was populated with six sentries, after all. One of the reasons I love CTF, as stupid as it is.

[@Artemi22]

@@metatrontf don't you get kicked for inactivity after a while?

[@v1rtuasharky615]

4:41 "bad in long ranges" *hold my deto jumps and deto snipes.*

[@justforfuns9457]

One of my recommendations for ctf for getting rid of stalemates could be no building in the intel room? Kinda like in the starting room

[@frostbite6431]

What about... Building right outside the limit?

[@lnfra]

"TF2, believe it or not has nine classes" oh i didnt know that

[@alapotato9367]

D1S EAS3 me too, i thought there were only 8 classes

[@waffles6280]

i thought there were only 4 classes

[@alapotato9367]

ÜBERDEKAHEXATRON X nah theres only 8 scout soldier pyro demoman heavy engi -medic- sniper spy

[@alapotato9367]

Disbelief Angel Statue becoz medics done exists

[@alapotato9367]

Disbelief Angel Statue wait what are we talking about?

[@NamyNam1170]

After watching this 5 times I've realized the engi was trying to remove the sapper at 2:35

[@yuukiyoshizawa7007]

Ohhh man, l feel bad for him :(

[@sleepyc4ke]

F2ps are the cutest creatures in TF2 I tell ya

[@Chg267]

He knew we was gonna die but he needed to save his teleporter

[@cadsquade]

@annoying guy If this was the entry, he could have done what's called a pro gamer move.

[@Reformed_Borzoi]

@@sleepyc4ke They suuuree are ;)

[@DrJackBright1]

Pretend you get the briefcase. 2 seconds later, the entire other team is engineer each with a lvl 3 turret

[@aperson4287]

The reason why C. T. F is my least favourite mode is because it means I can't put sentrys in idiotic places like I do in other modes.

[@Faysus]

In CTF 2fort, you will see: Sentries on the intel room Snipers on the roof like usual Teleporters on spawn 2 Hoovys in a boxing match A Conga line Atleast 1 tryhard That guy who eats his mic That pyro who hates spies That Spy who hates Pyros The Weebs having a picnic Edit: More things you will see: The 2 guys helping each other to complete contracts The 5 soldiers saluting at Rick's statue The asian spy who backstabs those 5 soldiers The Myg0t bot of course Medic chain from red base to blue base Endangered Spy Crab Lime scout that will cap Fat Scout Guy who just chats way too much Edgy spy/sniper who helps the lime scout The guy who always says OwO Invincible Demopan The guys recreating The Heavy is dead The Pyroshark The adorable F2P The P2P who hates the F2P The other P2P who stops the angry P2P from bullying F2P The amazing Trolldier The more amazing flying Demoknight The most amazing Jetpack Pyro The engies in a banjo band Sir Lags-a-lot Edit 2, MORE PEOPLE: Civilian Pose army Guy with hentai on his sign Communist Heavy TTV_KZbinr Pink as hell Scout Fake Sandsmith TF2 Omega Ultimate Trader The f2p who cant use voice commands The p2p bragging that he can chat The Pyro that can airblast anything Drunk Demo The "I can bhop" trolldier

[@furi7383]

lol

[@Astroyune]

This list is so unbelievably accurate.

[@furi7383]

@@Astroyune Yeah the every f*cking game of CTF_2Fort

[@nobleradical2158]

And of course that one cloaked spy in the enemy intel room that knows that uncloaking will get him rekt by the engineer

[@agustinovital9207]

Ah... The ocean

[@thambidave]

Right after this I played some CTF on turbine

[@randomman5903]

okay

[@blueshue]

i love that map. :3 the funny thing is that i hear the same guy talk about the hard learning curve that scares away new players. but new players get attracted to ctf maps of tf2... well see the problem there? but then again the fps community in general is toxic so just write ":D" every time you kill them and see salt getting all over the floor... i love that.

[@aristotlealpha9541]

blueshue 1989 what

[@teedeegremlin]

CTF is the true casual setting of casual. And that's why I like it. I'm a casual.

[@joseignaciogazzi3278]

I have to say, its a lot of rewarding to win a 3 hours match...and I found it...in capture the case... To be honest, capture is like an art for me. Its the objective, and when the battle seems to be eternal, I go for it...and in pretty much cases i fail or end the match doing it...the moment of doing such thing lasts until i close the game...the end of a nonsense battle...a Cold War...

[@lambdalabs7807]

“Valve retroactively removes Turbine from the competitive map rotation after r/tf2 called in a bomb threat on their offices.”

[@dr.penguin7934]

It takes bomb threats to get Valve to fix something? Damn

[@lambdalabs7807]

yes

[@stevengruner4885]

Reconfigure WHYYYYYYYYY

[@kedarunzi9139]

r/tf2 is truly the worst thing in existence

[@dutbud9049]

@@kedarunzi9139 "The 'r/tf2 sent bomb threats to Valve' thing was a joke by the way" twitter.com/danekevincook/status/809952469111320576?lang=en

[@StaunchWheat87]

turbine is a shitty map until you play it with 32 players

[@LocalPlane7]

then it's just fucking chaos

[@vaasmontenegro2853]

Operation Metro 64 players? lmao

[@sebascc007]

all capture the flag maps are cool to play with 32 players

[@YGOstratPlayer]

Capture the flag is the most fun gamemode and maps to dick around with , but for actually playing the objective they are easily the worst.

[@grandpaheavy2730]

The only positive for 2fort : *Being Friendly*

[@revilno]

CTF was luckily not my first gamemode, but I do like it, occasionally. Usually it’s just fun to fight without doing the objectives, but back during the high point of bots, the entire other team was bots, so my team went full offensive and medics, with 3 heavy’s, 6 engineers, a 3 medics. We, unlike most CTF sessions, pushed forward with our sentries and heavy’s, cornering the snipers in their spawns, and as the Heavy’s protected the sentries along with the medics, us Engineers valiantly grabbed the Intelligence and won the game. That was my first 5,10,15,20 and 41 kill streaks and it was amazing. We didn’t cower from the bots, we pushed them to their base and won, and it was with the power of coordination. CTF is fun if you coordinate attacks, but it’s also fun just killing and goofing around. Nice video by the way!

[@Redacted_Ruler]

I find that there’s always one pub stomper on one of the teams that just annihilate everyone and wins the game single-handedly

[@dougthedonkey1805]

Only when everyone on the other team is friendly

[@yuukiyoshizawa7007]

Either the guy is cheating, our team is friendly or more unproblable... he is a god like.

[@Pinkman999]

Or has a medic gf

[@triangulum8869]

How about: Intel return set to 30 seconds Standing near or on speeds this up depending on your cap rate.

[@stevengruner4885]

Königstiger no too

[@jellywizard]

This doesn't really address Dane's criticism, is the thing. Because it would still encourage the whole team to go back and defend the intel

[@magead]

@@jellywizard not really, if you have a pain train demo or soldier they could go alone to retrieve it, plus it makes the pain train more viable

[@nobleradical2158]

They should just make it like every other ctf since the dawn of time and give it a touch return.

[@gravity1537]

Also, make it so the Intelligence timer isn't reset, but slowly increases depending on the time it's carried. For example, if there is 10 seconds left on the briefcase and a scout holds it for 5 seconds before dying, the briefcase will have a 15 second timer on it rather than the 30 second timer.

[@orr4337]

I think better way to make ctf would be to: A: Have it be so that to return your flag, you have to take it and walk back to your base B: Have the base open up more and more as time goes on if there is a stalemate, so that at the start its a very closed and if no one gets a capture for an amount of time (could change between maps), then aditional routes open/some walls dissappear so it becomes harder to defend and easier to capture. Then when someone gets a capture, they gradually close those routes and make those walls reappear

[@_Crowuh]

What's stopping someone from taking their own intelligence to the enemy base to give them free points? Their team wouldn't be able to stop them.

[@KonstantinKonstantinovic-xf3qt]

@@_Crowuh I hate that you're absolutely right. Even well-intentioned players can accidentally carry the intel to the enemy base and get killed there (assuming you're not able to do self goals). Maybe some very clear UI directing the player to return towards their own intelligence base?

[@CaptainWobbs]

I think another, although smaller, problem with CTF is that there’s no dynamic difficulty. Typically, in CP, PL, or even 5CP, the game will become more difficult for an attacking team the closer they are to winning. Just by nature of how the maps are designed, last points are easier to defend than first ones. CTF doesn’t have anything like this. All three captures are exactly the same. It’s also a problem I have with KotH.

[@master-ri5kq]

Uncle Dane: change can happen Valve employee: *laughs*

[@name3166]

i whant to like but its 69...

[@ZackSantiago]

Sunny same

[@name3166]

@@ZackSantiago You can like now

[@MenachemSchmuel]

man i remember watching all these theorycrafting videos when they came out. everyone was so excited that valve had finally noticed that competitive tf2 was possible! there was going to be so much progress made! new and interesting ways to enjoy the game, or at least, streamlined, perfected old ways! but then reality reared its ugly head again: valve is dead.

[@NefosG]

Play Turbine on a 16vs16 server. The chaos of it is absolutely amazing.

[@watt338]

Porra não sabia que era br.

[@user-zm4ro7yh4e]

turbine é o melhor mapa pra mata-mata sem nenhum obejtivo real...

[@watt338]

Pedo Santa is coming to the booty! E também se perde muito tempo, praticamente muitas das pessoas que jogam no turbine acabam por sair "a meio" do jogo por aborrecimento.

[@watt338]

Jairo, the Cow Há pessoas que acham turbine divertido por alguma razão.

[@xxxxxx5868]

Jairo, the Cow Translation pls

[@Anomalocaris555]

Some of my best memories in TF2 are my team and the enemy team doing the most random shit together in CTF, not caring about the objective at all

[@DaltonIzHere]

CTF is arguably the best mode for general Endless Mode/Deathmatch for Casual. Since the game won’t end until a team reaches the cap goal, it can show you how to flank and also focus on defending a specific point for a time (when not turtling). I like CTF since once you get the Intel, it has some of the most tense parts of the game since most of the enemy team will be on your ass. Usually.

[@cheesyboi657]

Capture the flag is my “lagging game-mode” which is a game-mode I go on to get rid of the lag I get when I start the game because I can just slam dunk a level 3 sentry in the intel room as I lag to hell in the corner of spawn. I then go play payload or control points when the lag is gone. Or I just stick around on it because everyone is memeing so I just think “it won’t hurt to just do the kazotsky kick for another hour right?”

[@corrat4866]

I never does hurt, does it?

[@vivelespatat2670]

Oooh so not only me and my crappy pc have the extreme lag when I start the game

[@maestrofeli4259]

@@vivelespatat2670 I love playing videogames in my 2009 lenovo laptop

[@walkingglasses6264]

@@maestrofeli4259 HOLY SHIT SAME BRAND

[@walkingglasses6264]

@@vivelespatat2670 my ancient laptop hates TF2 lmao

[@Aweegi]

I like CTF because I can just chill and find glitches. It's not too serious.

[@angelschair9388]

Aweegee Luigi Same, I'm not a great TF2 player, so I play on CTF since it's a much calmer, "new player friendly", gamemode.

[@Argonwolfproject]

This is one big reason I like it as well. When I get on 2fort, I often find I'll have plenty of time to chill, experiment with various tactics, or do whatever without the huge amount of pressure. It's also more strategic than other modes, relying on proper team coordination and adaptation to endure thick defenses.

[@Dead_Mow]

Angel of Art but then again you have to learn to play other game modes when i started out i played all game modes but now i play ctf for sniper battles its also important to play the other gamemodes

[@arandomrowlet6842]

Aweegee Luigi i like ctf to feed my attemp to rank up my scouts scatter gun and fail horribly

[@Ginja_Ninja_]

I swear, it’s almost impossible to play as the sniper on the 2fort map while playing CTF since there will be so many snipers hogging the upper level floor on the either side of you get what I mean……

[@aquatic4760]

I enjoy CTF on 2fort due to how the games last so long, drops come in, and I'm just having fun while completing contracts. The gamemode obviously works best on Casual and then there's when you complete the contract and want to turn it in, but no one wants to cap.

[@arespectivelime3578]

Most people don't play CTF to well capture the flag, it's simply a Deathmatch for fun. There's no meta, nobody really cares about the objective and at the end of the day most of the people there just wan to mess around with stupid things in a stupid way, CTF as a game mode is absouloute trash, yet played in the special way the community has decided on is incredibly fun

[@fulcrum2951]

Wonder why isn't there just a team deathmatch in the first place if ctf isn't ctf anymore

[@metatrontf]

You put it perfectly. I play CTF, specifically and exclusively on Turbine, because I just like to fuck around. When I was obsessed with TF2, I'd play in the same server for up to fourteen hours straight and never got bored. It's just an endless deathmatch and so much stupid, funny shit happens that it was almost impossible for me to get bored of it.

[@maygel]

"STOP CAPPING FFS"

[@synvirtus5605]

Right? All I want in CTF is to get some kills or do something stupid.

[@sethleoric2598]

this is true, i only play ctf on community servers because it's the best place to dick around and practice, also i get to chat (in my opinion)

[@ccs8847]

I just play 2fort if I’m playing CTF so I can Loose cannon jump across the bridge One hit a sniper with the sign sit in the cornor and just delete snipers

[@vladgabrielmatei9128]

Try pyro thermal thruster

[@Don_Momoringo]

that's me but with the skull cutter

[@kannatheweeb8836]

Same, kanna.

[@metaford3746]

@@vladgabrielmatei9128 na decent sniper can easily predict thermal pyro That why they are on my list of the second derpiest type of people on 2fort Nothing sadder then seeing them trying to get to you just to be air shot mid launch animation or landing at predictable spot

[@MoltenSkull]

Meta Ford 70% of 2fort Sniper cant even kill an enemy moving in the air a lot, plus by your logic Demoman would also be easy to kill trying to go up to you don’t know why specifically Thermal Thruster

[@baconburgerboy1583]

Is it bad that I plugged in my charger while my laptop was dying so I could finish a game? {Its still a new'ish laptop and this was my first time doing it because I didn't want to lose xp points in my level up meter}

[@gabagoooby]

The only reason I go on capture the flag is because I like long drawn out matches where you can kind of just farm cheeky kills and talk in the chat, it's comfy

[@naf3773]

4:46 Medic: Good In Pretty Much Every Situation Medic is the best TF2 class confirmed

[@galliumn8684]

I mean, yeah

[@nurhid5742]

If you really think about it, yeah.

[@wokeuplikethis7729]

A team requires a medic to survive and a medic requires a team to survive

[@eh2587]

Exept 1v1s

[@godzillawithacomputer4045]

@E H *laughs in melee crits*

[@mamamiazakaria7481]

Turbine is the shit my guy. When I didn't have a powerful computer ( Had a 14 year old Laptop) Turbine was there for me since it's the smallest map and the only map I could play on. I bought a map thing (forgot it's the name) to support Flobster, the creator of the map, I have 1200 hours and over 600 hours on Turbine so that map is extremely close to my heart.

[@temaeto]

Same

[@pepo5256]

I bought a map stamp for watchtower, an arena map that i used to play on a community VSH server

[@maismehl2255]

I can literally relate 100% to this

[@dwayne1625]

Man look i can understand the whole shitty computer thing, Im still playing on a toaster, but that being said... TURBINE IS THE WORST MAP IN THE ENTIRELY OF TF2

[@lvsqsd6897]

@@dwayne1625 it isnt, 2fort IS the worst map.

[@Mottenprophet]

i find it a good idea to not instantly return the flag on touch but to speed up timer to x3 or something, maybe x2 on all classes and x3 on scouts

[@snifflysara3065]

I was someone who was told about and shown TF2 before I was able to play it (I played on Xbox most of my life and didn't get my own computer that could run this stuff for the longest time, even now I only have a laptop) so I was already taught a lot of the basics, as well as shown things and influenced into who I wanted to play and what kind of items I wanted to use the most. Now I main Medic and Pyro, as well as casually playing and learning the other classes. (I also love using the Classic for Sniper, I very much enjoy, yes yes.)

[@kalibos]

so basically tf2 ctf is the same as the western front in ww1

[@connorjackson5037]

kalibos ye

[@sinancothebest]

kalibos I guess that logic makes Payload tge Callipoli Front

[@hanssteyr3621]

Battlefortress q

[@sovietcharity]

sinancothebest There's no C in Gallipoli. lel

[@Awsome2464]

First of all, that intro was hilarious! Second, I was one of those noobs who started on CTF and would only play it for the longest time because, as you said, it was the most familiar. But after finally trying other game modes, I have to 100% agree with everything you said! Payload is officially my favorite mode to play because, as you said, it encourages mobility and trying different methods while CTF encourages staying in the same spot.

[@olaf4318]

You took the words right out of my fingers on the keyboard.

[@dooplon5083]

Matthias Haydon Sounds painful.

[@AlejandroGarcia-uo9ng]

Awsome2464 Q

[@h4pee]

Awsome2464 Third of all, nobody gives a shit of your opinion

[@defectivenull]

I barely play CTF anymore

[@ashtongiertz8728]

1:11 yeah, but it excells at teaching how these classes work together

[@zekinler]

Add a time limit, make one team not have an intelligence, and make the other team’s intelligence have different locations after each capture (meaning make the map bigger as well)

[@verdatum]

Duh it is. I thought we were all playing it ironically...

[@aguynamedguy9385]

I find it's the best game mode to get points in. The endless matches makes it very easy to farm kills.

[@piratep]

Guy nah that's Hightower.

[@Waltbrub]

"Can send a scout to kill the spy" Scout: **gets trickstabbed** Spy: **caps**

[@kjkh3104]

Well that's kinda eBic

[@ashorttag-8238]

@@kjkh3104 e🅱️ic

[@roytheidiot4844]

What competitive Scout goes in a melee distance of a Spy?

[@limerumpus3589]

I feel bad for spy, because when you boil it down in competitive, spy just isn't that good.

[@roytheidiot4844]

@@limerumpus3589 Anything Spy can do Sniper does better! Sniper does everything better than Spy!

[@theraptorcommissar1015]

Been playing TF2 for a year now and I can safely say that every TF2 CTF match I've played has either been a Stalemate or one side wins due to some random bs.

[@hexrisk]

Not playing enough then.

[@theraptorcommissar1015]

@@hexrisk I don't have over 1000 hours like most of my friends so probably.

[@CrayfishLord]

On turbine comp if both teams set up an engi in intel who is using the eureka effect, both teams can still have all 6 players attacking but still have someone defending the intel who can easily warp back if a spy tries something funny.

[@gloriaguevara4639]

Can we have uncle dane at home We have uncle dane at home Uncle dane at home: 0:09

[@dixietf2]

Uncle dane at home: sentry goin up

[@dimsthedimwit600]

@@dixietf2 Uncle dane at the streets:Teleporter goin' up

[@william04021999]

That intro almost made me shit my myself of laughter

[@JL-dance]

i think they have a cure for that

[@ryderwilson3385]

William Jørgensen Same

[@bombboy3427]

2Fort is probably the most atrocious. Engies have unlimited power defending because of tight hallways and horrible intel location. I had two set up sentries and dispensers at the doorways to the intel. You could not physically take it down, espicially alone. Not to mention the wall hacking pyro they had that charged at me either hallway I went, making me lose most of my health. It was behind the enemy's spawn, spies couldn't infiltrate it, getting an uber over was impossible, there were no convenient health pickups. I rage quit. Log on next day and it happens again, and again, and again.

[@vitoriangamer7807]

CTF balance idea: Time limit, when the time ends the victory goes to the team that captured the most intel, if it’s stalem8 then it is arena/sudden death and also when someone gets their intel stolen after they kill the person who stole it, one player can *take the intel and carry it manually back to base* so that the opposing team still has a chance to steal the intel again without it just teleporting away as soon as some1 touches it

[@maozedong6869]

Horrible idea, valve will definitely hire you

[@koopdawhoop.]

This is almost exactly how it works in Team Fortress 2 Classic. The time limit is 20 or 30 minutes, I believe Sudden Death is activated on a stalemate, and when someone carrying the flag dies, the reset timer is already pretty low but gets even lower if someone picks it up again and also perishes.

[@devinarato69420]

1:55 holy BALLS! God tier transition.

[@goofyahhfrogge]

*1:54

[@elmoelmerson172]

It’s alright.

[@geraldthelord277]

10/10 intro

[@akmalzahidi6890]

geraldesguerra XDDD

[@thomas7944]

This video has helped me find ways to break the mold of these issues, such as having the Sniper be in areas that could be risky, but help catch the opposing team off guard.

[@Inward3D]

You are 100% wrong sir. Santa Claus is real, he's not my stepdad in a fake beard.

[@moronichybrid]

Me: *Plays as Engie, Infiltrates into the enemy base to their Intel room and sets a tele exit* Also me: *Does that on 2Fort*

[@grieferjones2237]

whatcha gotta do is put an entrance back to your intel there instead

[@mee091000]

TheDream64 Were you able to do that at one point? I feel like that's something a lot of players do who played the game for a long time. But just started playing again recently

[@moronichybrid]

It's a teleporter EXIT, not the ENTRANCE

[@apple425]

Things are now in motaion that cannot be undone.

[@azoverdosed]

Nah, I literally put a teleporter exit at enemy intel without being caught *sneak 100*

[@janb.3600]

"This is my intel room now!"

[@ramenoranges]

I almost always do that. Better that standing still waiting for some random Spy to all the progress you made.

[@TheRealBlazingDiamond]

Oh, dude, you have no idea how many nests that I've done in enemy bases.

[@freevbucks8019]

WEak, I place ALL my shit there.

[@digitaledblocks7037]

enemy heavy: do you hear that enemy demo: nah probably just wind. *Metal wasting intensifies*

[@futuristicbus61]

Your intro is probably my favourite intro on KZbin

[@thepoglin8479]

5:44 turpine is honestly really fun as engi since if you make clever use of the eureka effect you can set up a sentry nest right outside the enemy vents

[@_GTX1650]

Uncle Dane: Nooo you just cant stay in The same place The whole Game they Will kill you Engis: Haha rancho relaxo goes brrr brrr

[@danielcastillo591]

@@n3bloons23 Haha Brr jokes go BRRRRRR

[@lordoftoasters2748]

No matter how smug we act the demomen will always blow up our shit

[@user-pk5nf5uh6n]

More like "go beep beep"

[@beep6205]

@@n3bloons23 hahahahahahahah brrrrr brrrrr brrrr

[@n3bloons23]

@@beep6205 lol

[@MrPaladin]

Very close to why I think the game mode is the worst in TF2. but not quite. in the next few weeks I'll put up a vid with my take on it.

[@satedsnail]

MrPaladin looking forward for it

[@Nhyufll]

MrPaladin you didnt do as cool of a intro has dane

[@Nhyufll]

As*

[@naf8787]

Thought you quit tf2 you little shit

[@zyelowplayz5732]

MrPaladin Are you a fan paladin I just watched 10 vids rn xd

[@--Cat--]

Oh Dane... you poor soul. Who said I'm going to defend *my* Intel?