CAR SHOPPING NIGHTMARE! SLIMEY TACTICS, WATCH OUT!

[@timcote8281]

I was also in the market for a 2.0 Red 2023 Supra and test drove one just 7 miles from my home here in Tampa. Msrp was $45k, but they were also asking me for 1,100+ a month for 84 months! They were telling me my trade-in was putting me in the negative. I bought my 2012 Jaguar XK coupe a few months prior with 52k miles from a retail Toyota dealership. I felt that I bought low at 26k, I owe 24k now, and the chances of finding my low mile well kept Jaguar in the twenties nationwide is an act of god. Their estimates for my trade show in the mid teens. They had market adjustments pricing for the Supra at $7 k calling it a protection package, their $1,195 dealer fee, and because of the low trade value my higher taxable amount showed with the higher price. I really like the Supra, but with no dynamic / adaptive cruise control on the 2.0 it was an additional deal breaker.

[@dmnearing]

OCM...I owned and operated a Dodge Chrysler Jeep Ram store for 33 years and am now retired. As such, I have bought a number of cars since retirement...including a good number of Vipers and various Hellcats along with the normal Minivans, etc. I am sorry to admit that I have run into stores that, even knowing I was a retired dealer, tried to pull stunts along the line of what you were outlining but thankfully not to that extreme. In most cases we were able to work around those instances and to be fair. some dealerships were great just as you have found in your own experiences buying cars. It does take some of the fun out of what should be a wonderful experience in buying a new car. We did not operate that way due to our outlook on business plus being in a small town where we would run into our customers at church, at the grocery store, at community events...and didn't want to have to live with a less than stellar reputation. I have been amazed at how certain big stores operate and that may be due to the pressures of competition but on balance, most professional car people and dealerships are trying to do it right and they do need to turn a profit to afford these big facilities and to service you after the sale through service, parts, body shop, etc. The point being, just be calm and keep your wits about you and look at the numbers carefully and you will generally make the right decision and wind up with a car you love.

[@pedrohizzle2835]

What store?

[@chodkowski01]

Years back they didn’t play these games.

[@dapperlygrungy3189]

Your car buying experience is the reason why I drive a 15 year old car. I paid $8100 for service and maintenance in the last 3 months just to avoid walking into a car dealership. I hate it.

[@DirtySouthRider]

The limp fish hand shake part got me weak crying laughing! I am now a new subscriber. I need to hear more of your videos when you post them!

[@joemcmillan2089]

Before I purchase a vehicle, I shop banks and credit unions for finance rates. Then I go looking, I will talk to various salespersons. It is very easy to determine the BS'ers and eliminate them from the future... When I find a vehicle I want, I tell the salesperson to give me the bottom line price. I told one sales person that I would walk if the sales mngr was contacted a second time. As he got up, the second time, I got up and left. There are other dealers that will understand.... Then I ask about dealer or manufacturer financing. At that point, I choose where to finance and make the purchase.

[@asdfbeau]

It may seem like a stretch, but you can contact the manufacturers if your experience with a dealer is bad enough; it happened to a Toyota dealer near me enough times that the GM and sales staff got replaced. Individually, our complaints go nowhere, but they do add up, and you're (eventually) saving someone else the stress of a bad car deal. Thanks for the video, OC.

[@SamCableguy]

I love when they go “ok let me go talk to my manager and see what I can do” and you know for a fact that nothing is happening in the back 😂

[@michaelb.8953]

That's code for I have to take a long bathroom break.

[@livinglife3230]

That line is classic BS 😂

[@Jillousa]

When I was in my late '20s, I had a much worse experience at a car dealership and that experience taught me that if I can't trust the people that are presenting this deal that sounds great but really it wasn't when I saw the deal on paper then I can't trust a deal. Throughout life I've taken that lesson that if I don't trust the people I'm working with then I can't trust the deal. Then years later I had an amazing experience at a car dealership that has a great reputation where everything that we discussed was on the paper and everything we discussed happened as discussed.

[@kenny3676]

I wish I could recommend this video to everyone this video needs to be trending because I’ve learned so much and I know someone out there needs this

[@HHTV60]

I checked pricing on 2.0L Supra here in Canada, out of curiosity. A 2023 model in Alberta, Canada goes for CAD$57,000 or US$42,400. 255 HP Turbocharged Inline-4 Cylinder with 8-Speed Automatic Transmission with Paddle Shifters Launch Control, Rear Wheel Drive, and 18” Alloy Wheels and Brembo Brakes Dual Exhaust with Brushed Stainless Steel Exhaust Tips Full LED Headlights with Adaptive Lighting + Adaptive Steering Forward Collision Warning, Lane Departure Warning, Dynamic Radar Cruise Control, Backup Camera, and more 8-way Power Adjustable Alcantara Front Seats 8.8” Touch Screen and Digital Gauge Cluster

[@1415Challenger]

I can't believe how bad these salespeople are. I wonder why the other customer backed out of the deal lol. I'm sure they told him he could have it at MSRP, but once it got delivered they threw on the markups and scared him away. I'm glad to see people are backing out of deals because of markups. people need to stop paying them!

[@uh-1flyboy632]

I bought a 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing for MSRP and no markups or add ons were even talked about. I picked what options I wanted and the car was delivered 8 months later. In this economy getting such a hot car at MSRP was a great deal. Kia screwed me with a $7k mark up on a Telluride. I can't wait for the economy to bite them all back.

[@nerychristian]

They can't screw you unless you willingly allow it

[@uh-1flyboy632]

@@nerychristian Its still a screwing. No matter what you say. MSRP means manufacturers suggested retail price. To go above that is a screwing.

[@Lauria43]

"Used Cars"... great movie reference, its why we distrust car salesman 😄. Serious note, these videos are so incredibly helpful. As you said, even a seasoned buyer can get worn down at the dealership!

[@8ball_998]

I never worry about the payment or ask them for the math. I just want the OTD price with a breakdown of vehicle price, tax, and any extra fees. If we can't agree on that, then I'm out. If we do agree then we talk about their finance options. But before I walk in a dealer, I already know around what APR I expect and round about how much I'm willing to finance. You never tell them what you make or how much you want your payment before you have agreed on the OTD price. I also say I'm not trading anything in.

[@briank.3539]

I wonder how many car sales persons would act this way, if they knew that they were being recorded? I love those sales tactics that they are trained to perform. When I go to buy my TRX next year, I am thinking of employing a car buying service. Thank you for this video.

[@boborman5537]

Most act this way

[@ShineLikeaProAZ]

I bought my first car a 1967 mustang 289 v8 in 1995 for $500 when I was 15 from working all summer. From the age of 15 to 18 I spent all my money on the engine, brakes and tires. I started stock with 287 HP and finished with 400 HP. Ever since that day I've purchased all of my cars.

[@arthurbilenker2622]

Every time they go for a walk, you take one too. Then they have to keep finding you on the lot. That nonsense soon ends. It's fun, try it.

[@markchase1840]

I visited a Dodge dealer in Norman, Oklahoma to but a new 2022 Charger. They had it advertised several thousand below MSRP but when the laid the paperwork in front of me there was no discount. So, the dealerships are still trying to take advantage of people. I declined the “deal” and went home. I’ll keep driving my Challenger. Thanks for your video!

[@jaynitto9968]

I can so emotionally relate to this video. Just 2 days ago 11/25/2022 I went to Huntington beach dodge to pick up my special order WB Scat pack. Waited 4 months for it. So got there, test drive the Scat and loved it. So I said let me get the total out the door and I'm going to finance through orange county credit union. He said we cant do that, we only finance in house, we dont do credit unions. I wanted to do the credit union cause they would offer 5.59 % for 84 months. I pay my vehicle off in 2 years so not worried about intrest so much. Just like the lower payment if you ever have a bad month. I said ok let's do the credit No Dealer Mark Up. So finance guy came back and said ok we got you for 8.9 % at 1351 a monthly. Car was 63850 MSRP. I said what's my credit score knowing it before hand, he said 740..... I laughed and said please. He said intrest rate have gone up it's out of my hands. I said that why I wanted to go with my credit union. He said hold on I will get a better rate. Waited 1 hr. Got up with my wife and son and told the fiance guy sorry but I'm not interested anymore. He said ooooohhhhh I was just going to show you I got 5.99% from your credit union at 1088.86 a month. My wife said can get the monthly payment to950 and we got a deal 0 downpayment. I know it could be done and they were mad cause I didn't want to put one down. So the fiance manager Asad manzhar pulled the paper from The sales associate chris and and raised his voice at my wife and said No,No,No your wasting my time and you guys can leave just get out of here. We where in complete shock!!!!! He was so disrespectful!!!! In front to my family while other sales associate and customers were watching. I cant believe they would really lose a sale for ego. I called and left a message to the store manager Mike Harrington and he has not got back to me. I really wanted this vehicle but, to be disrespected like that was just ASTONISHING!!!!! Thanks for your video and any suggestions that I can do on my behalf would be great!!!

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@SARGENTDOODLE]

To be honest man he did you a favor. You can’t afford the car at the end of the day, a down payment shows you’re serious and can massage some egos

[@tecno8335]

​@Sargent Doodle your correct. He did do him a favor. Saved him a headache of dealing with that dealership.

[@waynewallace2061]

Slime, slease, manipualtion are addons and you will be charged extra.

[@solesauce06]

That salesman sounds like all of exes “you’re gonna regret it” lmaooo

[@GregOrangeDoor]

So sorry about your bad experience buying your 16 year old a $70,000 car. #firstworldproblems

[@Hey_Mr_E]

I had this conversation with my friend where his colleague ordered a Type-R that was okay with MSRP + $10k markup (I still don't like this thought). The moment the car arrived at the dealership, they decided to ask for $5k more on markup, which made his colleague walk away. The endgame is always the grand fight until the deal is closed and complete.

[@mynock250]

The Type R has had markup since the first year it was introduced, in demand cars or limited production cars. There is another person on youtube the markup was 30k for that car, insane. He walked away but im sure someone else bought it the same day.

[@PeterParker-gz6ml]

Thank you, brother. I want to purchase a car in the near future but I don't look forward to dealing with these car dealers.

[@markwhitton8230]

Your a better man than me. I would of walked away when it went from 59 to 61 and then tried to sneak the warranty in there. I walk away from most car salesmen, since I was an honest car salesman in my younger years.

[@misplacedcaper9662]

My last few purchases, 2 Jeep GC's and a Challenger over the past 6 years were actually the best experiences I ever had when purchasing a vehicle, and all three from the same Dodge dealership... I spent more time test driving than having to sit around while salesmen/management spoke behind closed doors. My Challenger this past summer... I was in and out, driving it home in about 20 minutes (not counting the test drive). I've had bad experiences with both GM and Ford, taking up my entire day with similar tactics you describe here.

[@ryderskipper7773]

As a car salesman myself, I’m sorry you had to deal with that man. That sounds awful. I apologize on behalf of all the salespeople out there who are disgusted by slimy sales tactics and false promises. Like you said, as long as you’re honest and respectful of the customer and their time, you’d be surprised what can happen. Sounds like you were completely reasonable and this dude was just a mouthpiece for his greedy GSM

[@Anon1mous]

Easiest new car buy I ever had was through a dealerships online sale person. In and out in about an hour. Got there and signed the paperwork and left. No scams, surprises, shady business. Best experience ever.

[@JesusMorales-er4cy]

Yep If you’re still doing this type of buying you’re going to get scammed Lol

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@discodiana1984]

I have an amortization calculator pulled up on my phone before I talk interest rates and payments. They drop a lot of the games when I can pull my own numbers. I usually make out alright except on one deal, the dealer added the "dealer fee" at $400 after we negotiated a price to be inclusive of all profit and overhead. I failed to catch that before signing.

[@coldnorthAK]

Was at a dealer two months ago and had a dealer tell me that they don’t do markups. At the same time they had a TRX in the showroom with a $25k market adjustment. Needless to say I didn’t buy a truck that day.

[@steveludwig4200]

$800/month for a KID'S car? You are insane sir...You NEED to listen to "The Car Pro Show" on the AM radio..Saturdays at 9am.

[@FutureDMZ]

buying your daughter a car is not spoiled and ruining a future, its all about what you teach your kids. id be willing to bet your kid or kids got a good head on their shoulders. good parents make their kids life easier so they can grow without having to go through all the troubles we did, and learn from our mistakes.

[@Jillousa]

One of the channels have warned us about that additional sticker the dealer's put on there besides the MSRP sticker

[@streetslickz]

Dont forget about the market adjustment price! You might see msrp pricing listed online, but depending on the dealer, they will have that in there as well. If you don't feel like going toe to toe with them, try using a company discount, or car buying discount program through insurance or a membership (ie Sams/Costco) if either offers it.

[@kenny3676]

Omg thank you for this video I don’t regret subscribing to you when I did you don’t only bring content but also knowledge I’m 22 and my wife 21 we went to buy a car for her for school and let me tell you we bought a car that cost 21k came out to 35k and till this day we couldn’t understand but thanks you now we know how to deal with those shady people who only cares for their pockets but not customer relationships and I hope no one walks in that dealerships because they are just shady. Again great video and thank you

[@helloman4251]

Which dealer is this?

[@cbrturbo72]

Price. Interest rate. Payment is what it is. NEVER discuss the payment amount.

[@JustMe-kl7mr]

Judge a man by his handshake? Now that's weird to me. I can't begin to imagine how many good deals I would've lost by your logic.

[@Bonsai-Miata2020]

You have car payments with your income?

[@_Angelo569]

OC, I had a similar experience with a Toyota dealership in Orlando a little over a year ago before car prices started going haywire in Florida. The short story, I was helping my son get his first car and the salesperson was so arrogant, he became more arrogant when I called him out on his BS. The sales person added things that were not on the addendum and tried to sell it to me as if I had no choice but to accept it. I worked in the car business and like you I have bought about 12 cars in my lifetime. Normally I walk away but this salesperson was such an arrogant prick I had to give this sales person a piece of my mind while still being respectful to the people around me. There was a few customers who witnessed it and one couple walked out when I did and spoke with me in the parking lot. They too thanked me as my salesperson was also working with them and they felt awkward dealing him. That night I wrote a scathing review on Google and the dealership's website. I normally don't write bad reviews because nobody is perfect but in this case I had to. Everyone from the dealership called me and I was completely honest with them, I would only by a Toyota from them if Hell froze over. In the end, it worked out, the next day while at a diiferent brand car dealership I let the sales manager listen to my final conversation with the Toyota GM ( doubt if he was really the GM, couldnt find his name on the dealership website). Even the sales manager was appalled by the justifications attempted to be fed to me by the Toyota dealership. The sales manager spoke with the owner of the dealership I was at who just so happen to be their that day. They showed me the price of the car after tax, title and fees which we were very happy with the price and then they showed us with zeroes next to it 3 years of free oil changes instead of the normal one year. The different brand dealer went way out of their way to be completely transparent and they made my sons first car-buying experience a great one! Toyotas are really good cars but when you want to buy one shop not only for the car but shop the dealership.

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@EmmittMAKNHP]

So I've recently retired and looking for a King Ranch F250. I have taken you advise and search everywhere for a dealer that would sell at MSRP.; I have failed miserably. There is a 10K markup at every dealer I contact. I am in Michigan, my search ended in Texas Friday night. I will continue to look but this is ridiculous. Your words are always appreciated.

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@geneyoung8023]

They should remember there's always another car out there, I've always been taught that patience is wisdom's companion!

[@chodkowski01]

I used to buy a new car every other year. I finally decided to rip them off by maintaining and taking car of my car for 16 years. That’s a lot of sales they didn’t rip me off on.

[@jacekmadej34]

I really don’t understand how they sell any vehicles in this country if by default customers are treated like idiots and disrespected if they prove not to be one. It amazes me every time.

[@rvwvn]

We also had the experience of buying a new Civic to build my daughter's credit. The salesperson couldn't accept my offer until we had torn up the credit application and walked out. Then he came running after us yelling "We'll take it!". illegitimi non carborundum!!!

[@blackvulcan100]

Bought my Land Rover discovery D4 here in the UK about five years ago. Can I get some discount on the price ? sorry sir that's the price as we can sell as many as we can get so I agreed to pay exactly the price on the screen. I was happy it was a good price for the car, I had done my research before so I knew what they were selling for. Only add on was paint protection. Deal done within half an hour, all happy. Buying cars over there seems a nightmare.

[@paulbare6371]

explain what the "tire fee" is?

[@ocmotivator]

Lol. I totally missed that fee. Good question!

[@FutureDMZ]

i go in dealers ready to fight literally i go in there with an attitude and at least 7k down and i swear they are the ones on eggshells. im not sayin i get amazing deals but i dont think i ever been ripped off either.

[@wakeboarder9180]

Wow! Sorry to hear about this experience, but unfortunately not surprised. I worked in big ticket sales for years. One of the things you quickly learn is customers generally purchase from people they like....and obviously this sales guy did everything to make that impossible. Good for you in walking out - they didn't deserve your business.

[@kevincampbell6490]

I'm gonna be honest with you. I think I'm gonna buy my next car completely online to avoid that.

[@larryehrlich57]

When I buy new cars I always pay the total price with a normal check...not a cashier check. I state the price I'm willing to pay and if they try to raise it I walk off the property. Twice I have had them call me in less than 5 minutes and agree to my price. Each time I told them I'm now only willing to pay $100 less for wasting my time. It worked both times.

[@dmrobello9441]

He got emotionally hijacked and imploded himself. Good for you for not falling into his trap. "There's a million cars and a thousand buyers."

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@mfanning186]

I have a good Toyota dealer here in Cleveland if you're interested. I know it's very far away but probably still worth it. Dad bought his first Camry there in '97. Good family run place.

[@williamreynolds3487]

Ngl, I paid $3k over MSRP for my Charger Scat Pack Widebody. But the dealership was up front about it over the phone, before I even left my house. I respected that and took the deal. Now the car’s scheduled for production and I couldn’t be happier, especially after having a bad experience with another dealership.

[@QuinLIVE]

You respected getting charged a markup just because they told you ahead of time? Yeah we’re going backwards as consumers lol

[@williamreynolds3487]

@@QuinLIVE I had the chance to say no and I made the decision to buy the car (no one’s fault but my own). They didn’t have me drive down 45 minutes to the dealership, put in the order, and then slap on $3k at the end. So, yes, I’d say being honest and up front is being respectful to their customers, even if they’re overpricing their vehicles. Also, that’s not nearly as bad of a markup as other dealerships for that trim level.

[@nerychristian]

@@williamreynolds3487 You sound like a wuss. $3000 is like a couple years worth of gas and insurance.

[@williamreynolds3487]

@@nerychristian $3k isn’t shit lol

[@nerychristian]

@@williamreynolds3487 In that case, I'll give you my Venmo so you can send me $3000.

[@raymondcaylor6292]

2023 2.0 including tax, registration, and tag. 49,852 in Missouri purchased on 11/21.

[@tonycolca2241]

Good video I grew up in a bad neighborhood and have no problem walking away from these people.

[@dw8015]

I must admit I have had about 75% of the salesman be just like that and we just walked way before doing any credit check. 25% are great however. Just trying to find those and weed out the bad ones

[@darkrider2452]

You were in my hood.. I tried to buy a Toyota RAV4 there a few months ago and they tried to scam me. I bought at MSRP somewhere else.

[@andybribi7318]

I was about to buy a truck from them this thanksgiving weekend They used the same crappy tactics and are literally useless human beings. Lying and misrepresentation, yet they get mad when we call them out

[@andybribi7318]

Btw the shitty dealer is crown of Toyota in Ontario

[@motoguy3574]

To all car salespeople: Treat your customers like you would want to be treated and don't lie to them. You've really got to do your homework, know what your trade-in is worth, what your payments should be at a given percentage and, in general, know more than the salesperson does before you walk in the dealership. It's sad that this slime is working for them or they wouldn't do it.

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@gtaswerve]

Usually people that get THAT defensive realize that the jig is up .. the cat is OUT the bag lol everything he thought he was being accused of was everything he actually was doing! smh it’s unfortunate that there’s people and establishments that try to take advantage of customers hard earned money and get offended when they don’t get there way 🤔 but I’m glad there’s still people like you that are genuine people.. hope you find the right deal for your daughter OC and thank you for sharing this experience foreal!🙏🏽

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@mstrikesback168]

yep, see it all the time in politics.

[@ItsWhatiLike]

Never disclose any financial info about yourself prior to coming to terms on a deal. I never fill out a credit app until we have agreed to the numbers. I can understand the drivers license release but only if I am test driving the car. When the deal is done, I disclose my SS# (for FICO) and other relevant info (usually w/the Finance Manager).

[@jeffbuelt6953]

Yes pay attention to the paperwork!

[@abelvaldez6660]

I learn so much from oc thanks .

[@Nonlethal106]

I’m surprised you don’t have any convertibles especially living in Cali.

[@cruzin6123]

Years back, my girlfriend bought a car online and it actually was a decent deal. We go to look at the car and she said, yes, I’ll take it. We go into the finance managers office and he got her approved for the manufacturers loan special. Now it goes from 0 to 100 in 3 seconds. He adds in costs for floor mats and wheel locks. She says, no I don’t want that. Then he had factored in the cost of an extended warrantee which was over 2k, and that was a lot of money back when she was getting this car. She said no. I don’t want it. Then he says, yes you have to take it. She says no I don’t want it. He comes up with a slightly lower price that excluded some mechanical parts coverage. It was 1.5K. She says no, and he says you are taking the warrantee. I said, she doesn’t want it. Now the guy begins to shake and says there is no way you are leaving without the warrantee. I was in complete shock and awe! I stood up and said to my girl, let’s go. My girlfriend was closest to the door. The finance guy jumps up and blocked the door. I pulled her aside and I screamed, get the F* out of my way or I’m going to drive your head through the door! Boxing was my lifelong hobby and I could have destroyed this feeble idiot. He moves away, I open the door and we went out. The salesman was all smiles and asked if we were taking home the car now. I told him the story and said, sell the car to someone else. And we walked out. The next day she gets a call from the dealer and he said he was the general manager, and was ashamed at what happened. He said please come back and let us make it right. We did and after 10 minutes of him doing a non-stop apology, he pulled out a sheet and showed her their cost of the warrantee. It was $500.00. He said, if you would like the extended warrantee, we will give it to you at our exact cost. She took it, and in the end, the car had issues, but that warrantee covered them all until she got rid of the car. And, the finance manager, he was fired.

[@tomvansoelen6557]

Never ever set foot on a dealers lot until u have the deal done in writing via e mail. They will try and text, dont text. They will compell u to come in. Dont do it. Make sure u get a line by line break down of everything. Not just a price. Or payment. Be ready to go to another dealer. Be ready to walk even after the paper work is in process of being signed in finance. Check and recheck every line. Car dealers are some of the lowest of low. And if they insult u, get up and walk.

[@josephpuzzo1]

I just got a lease price today on a cheap 2 door jeep wrangler they wanted 650$...ever since COVID dealer's have been a holes...I hope in 5 years salesmen are gone for good

[@kphilips2010]

10k markup for a 2022 Honda accord 2.0Tsport. The dealers really think we are stupid

[@jeffbuelt6953]

Payment guy I would tell him what kind of crook he is and I would talk to his boss. I get a 1 percent under invoice from my former Railroad job I find out what invoice is and I make an offer under that and no documentation fee around the Midwest where I'm from there not putting on extras on the cars

[@hdhd7402]

Yes Sir it’s down right disrespectful at certain dealerships. I was talking this week to a salesman at a dealership I bought a car from 6 months ago. When I bought the first car I let them know I needed a second in a different color. Called me this week with news of a allocation change. This color is number 3 on my list. Wanted me to put 5K down. Turns out to be the mark up. Basically said the same thing. Someone is going to buy it. Sad thing is I sat aside 10K for the down payment at MSRP. I walked away and let them know there is zero costumer loyalty. This wrestling match was over a Sonata Hybrid Limited. Not sending a child to collage with a high car payment. I’ve bout 10 cars in the last 25 years. I told them good luck.

[@kurtwl]

Crown did this to me and I walked too. Longo does do MSRP.

[@tlrcamp8009]

It’s the california air that has people acting weird there….😂

[@TannerScott365]

This is crazy! I’m so happy you walked away from that deal. I got upset listening to this. Good video Brad!

[@natjoseph4025]

Good video. Seem like a lot of people run into the same issues. Thanks for sharing. If you wrote a book or guild on business, I would buy it.

[@dabigmak]

Very informative and excellent video. But, I thought she was getting your Scat. What changed?

[@ocmotivator]

She’s always wanted a Supra. But was going to take my scat pack until we could get a rare manual Supra which we expected to take a while. If we can find her a 2.0 Supra now then I’ll keep my scat pack and keep hunting for a hellcat.

[@dabigmak]

Totally understand. I offered my daughter my Mustang GT a few years back. She wanted an X5. Daddy’s girl got an X5. Mustang got sold and went towards my Hellcat down payment 😁

[@rplux007]

Thank you for the information on how they are trying to be sly. I am currently looking at cars for my daughter and this is stuff I will be looking for as I continue to look for something for her.

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@brotha1984]

That's why I deal with my wescom credit union when dealing buying a car I tell them to give me the bill of sale and take that shit back to my bank cut me a check and be done with it but a lot of dealers don't allow you to get a bill of sale they want you to go through their financing forget that

[@stonedotdrives]

I would’ve left soon as he said a different price from what was on the sticker smh these type of salesmen make me sick

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@ccron889_]

Crazy to hear this about Crown Toyota. I’ve purchased a few new cars from them and I’ve always had a good, straightforward experience with them. What a shame to hear this May no longer be the case

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@mikewieltschnig5230]

Great story!

[@aymanlockhartable]

Good ol’ days I would ask for price I wanted out the door including everything like tax and title!

[@marymoffatt2060]

How is it that even main dealers can turn an exciting event into a trial. Picked up a new £43000 VW two weeks ago having completed all the paperwork in advance ( three hour journey) and, on arrival, the reg. details were wrong. Took two hours to rectify and then, on driving home, the wipers were useless and am still waiting for the dealer to offer rectification. To add insult, on lifting the bonnet, I found the engine cover missing. Even at Mercedes it took us six hours to pick up a three month old demo, I think we spent longer at the dealership that day than the salesmen did. I think this all boils down to a lack of courtesy and poor dealer training/employing the wrong people.

[@somejackball]

ya these addons piss me off! every time i go to a dealership to trade or whatever, i have to go through the same crap old crap, having them delete all those damn addons! it's just annoying, and wastes your time

[@stephenbrady916]

It seemed like before COVID, the internet solved a lot of dealer bs. Now this happened

[@thousandstar]

This makes me not wanna buy a car at a dealership

[@williamreynolds3487]

You just gotta go in with a “fuck you” attitude and stick to your guns. Don’t be afraid to say no unless you really, really want the car.

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@Redeyereaper8]

That dealership is definitely sketchy....buyers beware.....run away from that dealership

[@makdaddy8399]

Maxcare...means you come in a month or two later to have 2 ex- landscapers wash the car but holding the car all day so you feel like they actually applied some miracle protectant to the car......

[@echochamber4420]

How I buy cars… 1) Go to dealership for test drive and obtain vin. 2) Call my wholesaler give him the details. 3) He gets car and I get it from him. 4) Smile all day for not having to deal with the dealership personnel.

[@georgestewart5828]

Buy Rate vs Contract Rate and never give a salesperson you drivers license. Out the door price not payments

[@Tracked350Z]

What's the term length on the Rover vs Supra?

[@brianb7637]

Like I tell my friends. You're shopping for a salesman, not a car.

[@GeorgeSoros025]

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[@kipdiggs1827]

Are you buying any of your You Tube vehicles with business credit? Would it make a significant difference with rates and utilization?

[@ocmotivator]

Currently working with a firm to establish my corporate credit so I can shift over. Just not ready yet since it’s a newer company and needs time to establish credit and higher revenue.

[@jaynitto9968]

@@ocmotivator I can so emotionally relate to this video. Just 2 days ago 11/25/2022 I went to Huntington beach dodge to pick up my special order WB Scat pack. Waited 4 months for it. So got there, test drive the Scat and loved it. So I said let me get the total out the door and I'm going to finance through orange county credit union. He said we cant do that, we only finance in house, we dont do credit unions. I wanted to do the credit union cause they would offer 5.59 % for 84 months. I pay my vehicle off in 2 years so not worried about intrest so much. Just like the lower payment if you ever have a bad month. I said ok let's do the credit No Dealer Mark Up. So finance guy came back and said ok we got you for 8.9 % at 1351 a monthly. Car was 63850 MSRP. I said what's my credit score knowing it before hand, he said 740..... I laughed and said please. He said intrest rate have gone up it's out of my hands. I said that why I wanted to go with my credit union. He said hold on I will get a better rate. Waited 1 hr. Got up with my wife and son and told the fiance guy sorry but I'm not interested anymore. He said ooooohhhhh I was just going to show you I got 5.99% from your credit union at 1088.86 a month. My wife said can get the monthly payment to950 and we got a deal 0 downpayment. I know it could be done and they were mad cause I didn't want to put one down. So the fiance manager Asad manzhar pulled the paper from The sales associate chris and and raised his voice at my wife and said No,No,No your wasting my time and you guys can leave just get out of here. We where in complete shock!!!!! He was so disrespectful!!!! In front to my family while other sales associate and customers were watching. I cant believe they would really lose a sale for ego. I called and left a message to the store manager Mike Harrington and he has not got back to me. I really wanted this vehicle but, to be disrespected like that was just ASTONISHING!!!!! Thanks for your video and any suggestions that I can do on my behalf would be great!!!

[@5x106]

My daughter turns 16 in a month, she’s gonna drive my 11 vette grandsport

[@billyrayvalentine7972]

Even if you get the numbers you want make sure to READ EVERYTHING on the final.contract. I've had them " make a mistake " in their favor and had to have them rewrite the paperwork. Slime buckets

[@thomasmargolis6057]

They lasted far longer than I would have, where the dealer and the salesperson are weasels. And the walk backs that were explained by other sites as just a tactic, amongst others. And my key lessons came earlier, and not at the stated price point.

[@eidowiduioos]

Remember I once walk out when they kept be waiting......

[@crystal338]

I keep coming back to - why aren’t you paying cash for the car, you save more money. How do you benefit from financing? Can you let me in on what I’m missing?

[@ocmotivator]

Stop coming back with such an absurd question. Anyone who pays cash for a car has not learned the principle of using other peoples money for cheap. Our system rewards people who have great credit like I do and loans them money at very low rates, allowing me to keep my cash liquid and out making me a significantly higher return than any depreciating car could provide. Banks take most if not all of the risk on the asset and I pay them a small interest rate to use their money to buy homes, stocks, invest in building a business that makes me money, capitalize on cash only opportunities that arise often. I partnered with a friend on a flip where we each put in $200k and I made $70k net on that investment and got my $200k back 4 months later. Had I paid cash for my $200k in cars, I wouldn't have that liquid cash available, and I'm not pulling equity from other assets or retirements to do this. I've done several videos on this subject and even my multi multi millionaire friends finance or often lease their cars and keep their cash out earning them money. Cars are NOT where you should sink your cash unless your independently wealthy and done making your money make you money. In mine and many others situations, these cars are business expenses and I don't keep them long, so the only expense I have is 5 or 6 months in payments, and because I buy the cars right I've not lost a dime yet and made back my payments each month. I'm sure this won't sink in, but I didn't get where I am paying cash for the worst depreciating asset on earth.

[@crystal338]

@@ocmotivator That’s cool if you can do it. It’s not for the average person making Best 5% on the CD and 7% on a stock. It’s a risky game and cars do generally depreciate

[@ocmotivator]

@@crystal338 no more than 10% of your income if financing or net worth if paying cash should be spent on a car. So if you have $600,000 liquid cash sitting in your bank and you want a $60k car then go for it. But if you only have 100k in the bank and you want a $60k car then you should not buy it. But have $100k in the bank and you make/net $10k a month and want to spend $1000 Mo on a car I see no issue and you should finance. Especially since if you have a catastrophic financial issue or job loss you can walk away from the car and make it the banks problem and live off of your $100k until things get better and then recover financially. But if you own a car outright for 60k you can’t buy groceries or pay an electric bill or medical payment with that car and if it’s dropped by 50% then you just burned $30k that you could’ve used to survive an emergency. Between leveraging other peoples money and minimizing risk, financing is one of the wisest strategies for those who have worked hard to have great credit to take advantage of low rates. My multi millionaire friend just bought a $70k truck and took the dealers $3.5% for 60 months. He uses his cash to build houses and apartment complexes and owns over 100 properties. Business and prices go up and down but he’s always very liquid to capitalize on opportunities and let’s the banks take most of the risk. Every billionaire in America does the same exact thing. Just on a larger scale.

[@crystal338]

@@ocmotivator Thanks for all the info. Makes sense, it’s just risky and I worry about you and others. But it makes sense if you are investing in real estate which appreciates more. I am on the conservative side and I don’t take risks. I had a 850 Credit score at one time which I thought was impossible and I paid cash for my Challenger RT😆 We both love Challengers, we have that in common! Take care

[@ocmotivator]

@@crystal338 Ya, I learned in 2007 when the entire economy crashed, at no fault of my own, but due to macro economic catastrophes created by our own trusted giant investment firms and Wall Street, completely allowed to run wild with no good regulation of the real estate lending industry, that no matter how smart we are with our money, our economy can crash at an near instant. I prefer to leverage my risks and I believe paying cash for a car when you can borrow that same money for 3.5 to even 5% interest and in some cases 0% interest with some brands and specials, that I will keep as much of my money out working for me and quickly liquid in the event of a downturn. Right now, with our economy going down the tubes, I'm eliminating all high interest debt, keeping the low interest car debt, and preparing for the storm and opportunities that come with a storm. Billionaires were made in the last recession and will be made in this one. I met with my good friend yesterday who has a 100% success rate with flipping homes at a 50% margin and he will pay 10% plus 2 points to borrow money for flipping and return that within 3 months. $100k can make me $12,000 in 90 days, but paying $100,000 cash for a car would literally cost me 15-20% the second I drive it off the lot, so I'll pay the 3.5% int for the car and keep the spread. I could and likely will double my $100k this year doing this. My advice would be that if you are sitting on enough cash to pay for a $50k car outright, and have great credit, then finance 100% of the car, and double that $50,000 this year. We need to stop listening to what our older parents told us and realize that our system is designed to reward those who save money, invest that money, and keep their credit good, and it punishes those who pay cash for depreciating assets. Right or wrong, it's the world we live in. A good example of the system punishing you, is if you pay cash for a car and don't have a history of car loan credit, your fico could suffer, but it could also be very very hard to get a car loan later or cost more in interest. Not fair and I've complained about that for years, but our country works when money is put to work. Take care and enjoy the Challenger! 👍

[@frankie072]

@24.15 I thought u were talking about politicians 🤣

[@chrisd3384]

As someone who's in sales people like this make my skin crawl, weird to be a Salesman and standoffish at the same time. Also great clips from some classics. Check out the Boat Salesman scene from Gone Fishin. Hilarious.

[@notacarguy392]

They do it because some people are bad with confrontation. Some people freeze up and let whatever happen at that point.